All Episodes Talk: Small World, Big Lives

[humbleopinion]

Entitled, greedy, jealous, self centered, self important, lack of creativity, becoming empty husk of a person is your own doing...Odj and Jer.

Coat tailing to ideas that you didn't originate, just lifted from the internet, spouting beliefs that later expose you as hypocrites, faking an idyllic life that is based on smoke and mirrors contrasts with your twin's happy marriage to a woman who authentically loves him.

The cameras have exposed you two as fame hustlers with nothing interesting worth saying.

Your baby will demand the attention that you once showered on each other...who will miss it the most?...guessing Poj.

Trademark AujPoj is  now beholden to Matt for an income...your worse nightmare...

 

 Zach and Tori should cut a deal with TLC for their own limited series of shows away from the mess that is LPBW.

Id' watch that...

[SunnyBeBe]

13 hours ago, Honey said:

If Amy wanted to know where she stands with Chris, I'm glad she asked him.  I can't stand women who play games, and tiptoe around men for fear of scaring them off.  Fuck it, if it was something that's important to her, of course she should ask him.  If it makes him run away, then that's on him, and better now than when she's completely in love with him.

Sorry, I just hate game playing games, from either side.  I think Chris is playing a few of his own.

I agree.  All those mind games are worthless, imo.  If a man is really into you, he's going to make it known and nothing will get in his way.  I don't buy the theory of scaring someone off.  If it's into it, he's into it.  If not, there's nothing you can do to make it happen, imo, unless, it's about money.  If it's about money, whole different ballgame. I have no idea about Chris's finances, but, I would consider Amy financially comfortable.  That's a good feature in a perspective mate, but, Chris could be as well. 

[ZoloftBlob]

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Zach and Tori should cut a deal with TLC for their own limited series of shows away from the mess that is LPBW.

A cute idea but I suspect we'd be bored.

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Your baby will demand the attention that you once showered on each other...who will miss it the most?...guessing Poj.

What I find amusing in a way is that the obvious way to keep the attention is for Aujpoj to metamorph into the endlessly devoted mother - we all know the type - but she's already made a huge stink about how *her husband* will always be first and most as she is *fighting for her marriage*.

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Jeremy & Audrey are completely joyless.  They sit around in every scene whining & complaining and I can't remember the last time I saw either of them smile. 

The small amount of sympathy I will grant here is that I think married couples do enter that phase where the honeymoon is finally over and... things aren't working out so magically for them. The move to Los Angeles ended with Auj leaving the job she'd moved to take. Jeremy isn't working as a photographer, for all that Audrey (and theoretically Jeremy) wants to be a Christian speaker, she's done two engagements? The intentionally for profit marital blog hasn't exactly gone viral despite essentially getting an advertisement from the tv show. I really can't see the clothing line or the devotional service or the silly book bringing in more than covering costs. And Jer and Auj both seem to have lived their lives being told just how special and successful they are...

And now their one big accomplishment - having an awesome wedding - has edged into the "it happened two years ago, no one cares anymore" realm.

Now they have a kid on the way, and judging by the frowns, I think the baby was either unplanned genuinely, or they didn't realize just how much chasing after Zach and Tory was going to change things.

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Trademark AujPoj is  now beholden to Matt for an income...your worse nightmare...

The funniest part of this is that as Jer and Auj frown and moan.... this has been their endgame from the start. They have been whining from day one that they want to be on the farm, they want to lie on the farm and be farmers. Well, what the fuck did they think that would entail? Matt and Amy are both gonna commit suicide? So Jer and Auj can be free to live on the farm without any questions or concerns? Matt isn't giving up control of the farm until its pried from his cold dead hands... and health woes aside, Matt could easily live another 15-20 years. And longer for Amy.

I don't have a lot of sympathy for Jer and Auj and their sad faces over how they're not getting their way and have to actually take into account the reality that Matt and Amy aren't just handing them what they want with no obligation. I also don't have sympathy because Jer and Auj are two grown adults with advantages who are *choosing* to place themselves in the role of dependant on Jer's daddy. Jeremy is a grown man with a college degree, admittedly from a college that no longer exists and apparently wasn't accredited. Audrey is a grown woman with a college degree from a legit school. For all the bitching that gets thrown at Zach for working as a soccer coach and mooching off the show... Jer and Auj are doing the same exact thing and face none of the challenges Zach faces in entering the work force. And Zach has clearly taken the show money and bought a house (the house he lives in is PAID FOR) so he's not making entirely dumb decisions AND he's proving the point that Jer and Auj could have the same things if they were willing to settle. Their income clearly comes from the show, just like Zach's, and Zach has a nice house. So Jer and Auj are either spending their money on different things (probable considering their tastes, multiple cars, and fancy trips) or they are just unwilling to settle for what they can afford. And lets be clear, Zach can afford a nice three bedroom home on his income from the show, and Tory's income from work so there is NO REASON Jeremy and Auj couldn't have the same based on the show money AND they're both able bodied adults who have educations who could be working.

[AZChristian]

CONFESSION:  I rarely watch this show any more, because just reading the snark here is a lot more fun.  But today is cleaning day, and I like noise in the background to distract me.  So I watched the last episode.

1.  I don't think Amy was expecting Chris to find her in her bedroom.  It's obvious that she keeps the "public" areas of the house tidier, but that bedroom looks like the whole house used to look in earlier seasons.  She's a slob.

1.a.  Based on the fact that she hadn't cleaned up her bedroom, she was NOT planning on Chris "visiting" her there that night.

2.  Watch Chris' head.  I've read that it's a basic premise of reading body language that you should watch whether a person is nodding or shaking his head no during an answer - no matter what their lips are saying.  She asked him two different questions about his level of commitment.  One he said (less than enthusiastically) "yes" . . . but his head movement was saying "no."  And even when he said later, "Let's wait and see where this goes," his head was saying "no."  Sorry, Amy.  He's just not that into you.

And in the previews for next week, Amy and the actress playing her friend are talking to a menu consultant about opening their own restaurant.  She told them, "More than half of all restaurants fail within the first year."  Um, Amy . . . those are even worse odds than the 50% odds for marriages failing.{/spoiler]

[ginger90]

Well, if the interaction Amy and Chris had in the cabin in the morning, was after a night of sex, I'd be out. There was nothing about that morning that made me feel any kind of connection between the two of them. So, I hope they didn't do it!!

[Honey]

On 5/20/2017 at 3:33 PM, ginger90 said:

Well, if the interaction Amy and Chris had in the cabin in the morning, was after a night of sex, I'd be out. There was nothing about that morning that made me feel any kind of connection between the two of them. So, I hope they didn't do it!!

That's what made me think that it wasn't their first night together, but just one of many such mornings.  There was none of that morning after awkwardness one would expect, after such a momentous occasion.  Lol

[Irate Panda]

So sad about Sully....he was by far one of the more respectable members of the Roloff family ??

[Awfarmington]

1 hour ago, Irate Panda said:

So sad about Sully....he was by far one of the more respectable members of the Roloff family ??

This is the second dog to pass away during filming. I teared up when the first one was found deceased on the lawn ?

[stitcher73]

When Amy was getting ready in the bathroom did she really say she was in a "predictament"? 

[Cementhead]

1 hour ago, stitcher73 said:

When Amy was getting ready in the bathroom did she really say she was in a "predictament"? 

She did.  I caught that, too.   Maybe we can blame it on the glass of white wine she had with her?  Mmm, wine.

Edited May 22, 2017 by Cementhead

[AZChristian]

1 hour ago, stitcher73 said:

When Amy was getting ready in the bathroom did she really say she was in a "predictament"? 

You know, she must find it "fustrating" that we keep picking on her pronunciations.  

[ZoloftBlob]

Eh, the occasional mispronunciation, I try not to get on anyone's case - I've done it. The one that drives me wild with Amy is "parmesan" if only because I can't believe no one in her entire life has ever explained the correct way to say it. Oh, and I dislike how Jer tends to fixate on a word or two and uses it constantly. He likes dynamic and peculiar and as he drones on in a monotone about how his childhood home now has a peculiar dynamic and how he wants the baby to a peculiar but not weird name... and I just get a lil "Oh Jeremy, you're such a dumbass". I have a really bad feeling their gonna name the baby weird.

[AZChristian]

3 minutes ago, ZoloftBlob said:

. . . he wants the baby to a peculiar but not weird name . . . 

Jer - some new words for you:

unique

uncommon

distinctive

[Ina123]

7 minutes ago, ZoloftBlob said:

Eh, the occasional mispronunciation, I try not to get on anyone's case - I've done it. The one that drives me wild with Amy is "parmesan" if only because I can't believe no one in her entire life has ever explained the correct way to say it.

But someone at the table during a discussion about it told her how to pronounce it and she still messed it up. LOL.

3 minutes ago, AZChristian said:

Jer - some new words for you:

unique

uncommon

distinctive

And please, Jeremy, when and if you discover the word "unique", please don't say "more unique". Sorry, pet peeve.

[AZChristian]

1 minute ago, Ina123 said:

And please, Jeremy, when and if you discover the word "unique", please don't say "more unique". Sorry, pet peeve.

Amen, sista.  Preach it!!!

[ZoloftBlob]

Naw, he'll say its dynamically unique :) Oh wait... what if they name the baby Unique! Or you know, Uneek? :D

[Mom2twoNonna2-3]

Jeremy must have one of those word a day calendars. My grandson has a better vocab than him. He's 6 and just told me he was barricading the door on his doll house. Darned if there isn't a ton of small toys blocking the doorway into the house from the top deck. This kid slays me.

[StayingAfterSunday]

3 hours ago, ZoloftBlob said:

Eh, the occasional mispronunciation, I try not to get on anyone's case - I've done it. The one that drives me wild with Amy is "parmesan" if only because I can't believe no one in her entire life has ever explained the correct way to say it. Oh, and I dislike how Jer tends to fixate on a word or two and uses it constantly. He likes dynamic and peculiar and as he drones on in a monotone about how his childhood home now has a peculiar dynamic and how he wants the baby to a peculiar but not weird name... and I just get a lil "Oh Jeremy, you're such a dumbass". I have a really bad feeling their gonna name the baby weird.

Now if only he could find some synonyms for "stoked."  

[ZoloftBlob]

Oooh, we have a new *peculiar* name for Roloff #2! Stoked!

"Welcome to kindergarten, honey, whats your name?"

"I'm Stoked!"

"I'm glad you're excited, sweetie, but what's your name?"

"I'm Stoked. Stoked Roloff."

[Willowsmom]

Nope , Tawdry Jr..

[SunnyBeBe]

Many seasons ago, Amy addressed her Parmesan cheese pronunciation.  I think she said that others had brought it to her attention and she just liked the way she said it better. Or something like that.  If I'm off please chime in, but, it seems that's how it went.  Molly used to say it the same way.  She may have reformed now, though.

I can envision some "unique" names for Jer and Aug's baby.  From watching them on tv, names like Harper, Laurente, Dior, Alelaide.....Hey, I recently was grocery shopping when I heard a lady repeatedly calling for her kid to join her in the cereal isle.  She kept yelling, "MESSIAH!  MESSIAH!  I'm NOT KIDDING.  

[AZChristian]

10 minutes ago, SunnyBeBe said:

Hey, I recently was grocery shopping when I heard a lady repeatedly calling for her kid to join her in the cereal isle.  She kept yelling, "MESSIAH!  MESSIAH!  I'm NOT KIDDING 

I'm a court show junkie.  A young man named Messiah was on Judge Faith's show today, so I believe you.

Kors Treehouse Roloff has a ring, no?

[humbleopinion]

Baby names suggestions for the upcoming, unspectacular, absolutely average Roloff baby:

Jermajesty

Jerhighness

jer welcome...

Edited May 24, 2017 by humbleopinion
more nonsense

[Willowsmom]

Who are we kidding. As hard as Jer and Tawdry sick up that kid's name is Mattina Caryn.

[Mindthinkr]

This thread has me ROTFL!! Bwahaha 

[Celia Rubenstein]

I'm thinking they are going to somehow work in the "fact" that the baby was conceived in a treehouse into the poor child's name.  They named their cat "Pine," right?  So that's taken.  Maybe name the baby "Oak" or "Timber" or some dumbass hipster reference to the forest.  

I'm going to go with "Rowan" (which is a kind of tree for those who don't know).  I am putting it out there because I DON'T want them to name their baby Rowan.  I like that name.  Even though "Rowan Roloff" has a nice ring to it. 

Whatever happened to Pine, anyway?  

[Mittengirl]

How about Rollin Roloff?

[ginger90]

I don't know if it was Pine, but in a recent scene, in their kitchen I believe, there was a cat. I remember because I thought, Jeremy probably already takes care of the litter box,  so no worries there!

[ZoloftBlob]

I suspect the kid will end up a very feminine name and not something tragically hipster like Rowan (tho I do like that and don't find it as off as some names I hear)

I say feminine because I like Audrey Mirabella likes her own name and will likely want her daughter to have a similar fancy yet pretty name. Because they're so very straight gendered, I can't see them picking a vague gender neutral name at all.

[ZoloftBlob]

On watching a rerun, I am going to describe something that Matt did that proves my point that he delights in picking fights with Amy and isn't cowering in terror.

He makes a huge point to Amy that Amy still has some of his stuff and he needs his stuff and why isn't Amy bringing him his stuff per the divorce agreement.

Now I will be fair and say, I don't think this is an entirely out of line request *on the surface* but, let's analyze what has been going on.

Matt moved out of the house two years ago, his choice to go. There's been at least one other episode that has been "woe is Matt, Matt's moving out" where his office in the house was cleared out and mostly moved to the office in the barn and other furniture. Matt also lives literally 100 feet away and has no problem sending his children over to the big house (and early on in the separation, enjoyed being that lil dickens, borrowing stuff from Amy's kitchen etc)

But now he wants his final stuff! It's so important, he picks a fight about it.

Amy hauls his stuff over to the office. And how does Matt react?

With annoyance. He makes certain to go thru the stuff on camera so he can publically chide his ex for *bringing over the stuff he said he wanted*. He openly admits to not having seen a ton of the stuff in ages and tries to justify how important the lil tractor lamp that he'd forgotten about is now front and center for his planned baby room. He mocks what Amy has brought him with his new girlfriend helping - all on camera.

To sum up, he picked a fight, he genuinely had no idea what possessions he had left in the house but he WANTED them! He acts annoyed when she complies, and encourages the sidepiece to mock his ex publically.

Yeah, he's pissing himself in terror, walking on *eggshells* to please Amy. I mean really, this was all a passive aggressive game. If Amy was smart - she'd have the damn photos done as soon as possible, and the next time Matt bitched publically on camera how he needed his precious stuff, she needs to tell him to send a list of items to his lawyer. Particularly if he's going to use the show to harass her about his precious things he doesn't remember but wants, and particularly if he's going to complain publically over what she brings.

[ginger90]

I think Matt mentioned that there was a particular date in their divorce agreement that Amy was to get things to Matt. One such thing was she agreed to scan pictures so he would have copies too. It was an agreement she signed. I can see Amy putting it off until the last minute. So, to me it seemed Matt was reminding her. (Not a Matt fan, just how I recall it).

[Guest]

On 5/19/2017 at 0:42 AM, HahYallDoin said:

Are you frigging kidding me?!?! Amy is completely smitten and from what we've seen, she isn't playing hard to get.

They've been seeing each other for six months,  but she hasn't introduced him to her family. I know that if I was in that situation,  I'd feel that the other person didn't consider me long term material.  It appears that she cares about him,  but unless she has explained her reticence to him, and he has accepted her explanation,  I understand his comment.

[ZoloftBlob]

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One such thing was she agreed to scan pictures so he would have copies too. It was an agreement she signed. I can see Amy putting it off until the last minute. So, to me it seemed Matt was reminding her.

I totally agree and frankly this is one of those "don't put it off because HE WILL BITCH" things. My issue was with the "stuff" aspect and how she actually did bag up all of his stuff and how he was annoyed by it getting done and how he chose to mock her efforts publically with his new girlfriend.

I notice that Amy does not, as yet, discuss Matt on camera with Chris. That's wise, and Matt should consider following her example. His kids at least might appreciate his not using the tv show to run down his ex wife.

[Mindthinkr]

First let me apologize for this next comment. It is not nice. 

I was wondering why Chris looked so glum at the beginning at the dinner. That is, until I was watching Amy eat and talk. With her mouth full of food. This may mean nothing to a lot of people but where I come from it could get you banned from the table and hungry. I don't think that she needs to have her mouth open while eating (as in she would have difficulty breathing or her musculature won't allow closure). Zach I'm a bit more forgiving on due to the latter. Perhaps Chris doesn't find watching the food in her mouth like a cement mixer sexy. More like he's putting up with it to stay on the show...hence why there's been no fights in their six months together. 

[Ina123]

2 hours ago, Mindthinkr said:

First let me apologize for this next comment. It is not nice. 

I was wondering why Chris looked so glum at the beginning at the dinner. That is, until I was watching Amy eat and talk. With her mouth full of food. This may mean nothing to a lot of people but where I come from it could get you banned from the table and hungry. I don't think that she needs to have her mouth open while eating (as in she would have difficulty breathing or her musculature won't allow closure). Zach I'm a bit more forgiving on due to the latter. Perhaps Chris doesn't find watching the food in her mouth like a cement mixer sexy. More like he's putting up with it to stay on the show...hence why there's been no fights in their six months together. 

I don't think an apology is necessary. I'm a chronic complainer on here of the way they (Amy AND Zach) eat with their mouths wide open. Yuk. If it's a breathing problem from being an LP, chew behind a napkin. They have got to be aware of it by now.

[Barb23]

On 5/17/2017 at 9:46 PM, Jajamac said:

She wants a committed relationship and he just wants someone to play with on the weekends like you said awfarmington. I don't know how he could have put it any plainer.

I agree. Also I've said this many times & it's driving me nuts  - why can't Amy ask or Chris say what was the thing she did that set off his anger warning button??  Was it something minor or something he really should be concerned about?  Just seems weird they're going on & on about "it" for a couple of episodes yet it hasn't been fully explained, at least to the viewers.  It's really hard to pick a side when we haven't been given the full story. 

[ZoloftBlob]

A guess? Based on earlier behavior? He saw her go off over Matt, and she doesn't want to discuss what Matt did to piss her off on tv. Amy rarely directly gets into events with Matt that don't take place on camera.

[stitcher73]

5 hours ago, ginger90 said:

I think Matt mentioned that there was a particular date in their divorce agreement that Amy was to get things to Matt. One such thing was she agreed to scan pictures so he would have copies too. It was an agreement she signed. I can see Amy putting it off until the last minute. So, to me it seemed Matt was reminding her. (Not a Matt fan, just how I recall it).

I agree.  I can see Amy completely blowing this off until the last possible minute and then freaking out and losing her temper when she has to do it, complaining the entire time.   And I'm not a Matt fan either.

[SunnyBeBe]

From what I recall, Matt reminded Amy that he needed two things. pursuant to their written Agreement.   1.  For her to scan and forward him the family photos. 2. For her to remove her name from his bank accounts.  I don't recall him saying anything about other things. If he did, it wasn't the real focus.   It was Amy who told Matt that she Was NOT going to have the photos scanned by the date due in their Agreement.  She did say that she would address the bank account matter, but, she was irritated. Why get irritated that you agreed to something and didn't follow through? That's on you, not the other party.  She then huffed off home and packed up stuff in bags that wasn't even his stuff. Recall the pants nor vests fit.  This is a technique that's called diversion. You distract from the real issue, which was scanning the family photos, to odd clothes that Matt can't wear.  She knows that he values the family photos, so, what better way to keep control and his attention?  

And if you think that Matt should just keep silent and just call his lawyer about it? Well, that's about $300.00 an hour to address this matters. I can see why he wants to get it done without more lawyer time.   And, I would want my family photos scanned and her name off my account. That is normal.  

[Whyyouneedaname]

1 minute ago, SunnyBeBe said:

From what I recall, Matt reminded Amy that he needed two things. pursuant to their written Agreement.   1.  For her to scan and forward him the family photos. 2. For her to remove her name from his bank accounts.  I don't recall him saying anything about other things. If he did, it wasn't the real focus.   It was Amy who told Matt that she Was NOT going to have the photos scanned by the date due in their Agreement.  She did say that she would address the bank account matter, but, she was irritated. Why get irritated that you agreed to something and didn't follow through? That's on you, not the other party.  She then huffed off home and packed up stuff in bags that wasn't even his stuff. Recall the pants nor vests fit.  This is a technique that's called diversion. You distract from the real issue, which was scanning the family photos, to odd clothes that Matt can't wear.  She knows that he values the family photos, so, what better way to keep control and his attention?  

And if you think that Matt should just keep silent and just call his lawyer about it? Well, that's about $300.00 an hour to address this matters. I can see why he wants to get it done without more lawyer time.   And, I would want my family photos scanned and her name off my account. That is normal.  

my dad and his ex were married for 30+ years when they divorced, she did him the same way. Some of the personal items that were his, he never got. Yes he could have gone back to the lawyers, etc, but after a couple of years leading up to the divorce you're kind of burned out on that stuff, you're just wanting it over. I felt like it was her way of just keeping a little bit of control. She passed away a few years before he did and there were things still left unresolved. It may be petty stuff but as I see it, if it's mine give it to me, if it's yours come get it. 

[SunnyBeBe]

1 minute ago, Whyyouneedaname said:

my dad and his ex were married for 30+ years when they divorced, she did him the same way. Some of the personal items that were his, he never got. Yes he could have gone back to the lawyers, etc, but after a couple of years leading up to the divorce you're kind of burned out on that stuff, you're just wanting it over. I felt like it was her way of just keeping a little bit of control. She passed away a few years before he did and there were things still left unresolved. It may be petty stuff but as I see it, if it's mine give it to me, if it's yours come get it. 

I"m sorry to hear about your loss. IMO, the items and their significance often hold meaning that is only known by the spouse.  Some people can't let go of control or the idea that it's really all resolved.  Keeping some loose strings helps them from coming to a final resolution, imo. 

[Celia Rubenstein]

46 minutes ago, SunnyBeBe said:

  Keeping some loose strings helps them from coming to a final resolution, imo. 

Nobody is going to finally resolve jack shit as long as they are living in each others' back yard.

[ZoloftBlob]

And doing a tv show *together*.

[Ina123]

I've been scanning my old printed photos for a couple of years...here and there as I have time. I'm doing it just for my own record. If they have a bunch and she is just starting, he's got a long wait. Granted, I label mine with a recognizable file name but even if she scans them and just uses the default name it will take awhile.

From watching the show, it's Amy who I have seen snapping pictures. She always had a camera in her hand. Heck, I'd have had it in the agreement to just give him the negatives to make his own damn prints. Should be pretty easy to give him any that have been made with a digital camera, but those old printed photos take time.

Wonder if he wants the ones with her in them? Of course, like my photos, I was the one taking them so I'm not in so many.

[Celia Rubenstein]

What really bugged me was when Amy was showing Matt the baby clothes she had squirreled away over the years and Matt groused "that's it?  so you go rid of them all ..." sneer scowl like it was some kind of failing on her part.  Then the punk ass had the nerve to ask Amy to GIVE HIM HALF THE CLOTHES!

First of all, baby and kid's clothes wear out.  They get torn and stained and just worn the hell out.  Especially if more than one kid has used them (which is probably why Amy seemed to have more of Mollie's dresses around, they were "fancy clothes," not play clothes and she was the only girl who wore them).  And there is no point in saving an outfit for years in less it is in extremely good condition ... nobody is going to want it if it's not. It also takes a lot of room to save clothes - they need prime storage space that is airy, dry, out of the light and safe from varmints.  Basements, attics and barns are not great places to keep them.  So what happens is you end up with old clothes taking up the space where you want to keep your current clothes and eventually things tend to get tossed.  It's not laziness on Amy's part that she didn't save more.  And often friends and family can use what you have so you end up giving stuff away because it's cute to see you niece or best friend's daughter wearing the pink Osh-Kosh  bibbed overalls your own daughter wore.  So that's why most people don't save every garment their kid ever wore, Matt! 

Also, it was Amy who took the time and trouble to save those clothes.  Not Matt.  There was nothing on earth preventing his dog ass from realizing that little Mollie had outgrown that adorable flowered sundress she looked so cute in last summer and putting it away for safe keeping himself.  He was just as capable of stashing away Jeremy's argyle sweater or Zach's sports jersey so that he could bestow them on his future grandchild.  Where the hell does he get off asking for half of what Amy put away as if he is as entitled to it like it was something bartered for in their divorce?  They were precious keepsakes from her children's youth that she took the time to preserve because she had the foresight to realize they might be wonderful to have around for grandkids one day.  That's actually half of what makes giving the next generation items from their parent's own childhood so special ... it shows that someone realized that one day, a new generation would come along and decades before it happened, they were excited about that and thoughtful enough to put this stuff aside for them.  And the person who bothered to DO THAT was Amy.  Not Matt. 

His entitled attitude about the whole things just bugged the hell out of me.  He has been a selfish, self-absorbed asshole the whole time they were married and now he just wants to swoop in and claim half the credit for Amy's thoughtfulness and play Super Grandpa who LOOK! has Zach's first soccer jersey (after all these years, how wonderful of him!) to present to Jax on his 5th birthday.  Well, forget it Matt.  That honor is going to go to Amy, who realized the world did not revolve around her and that one day someone might appreciate their Dad's old jersey or their mom's old party dress.  You should have taken time away from your precious farm projects and put a little more thought into being a dad.  Realized one day you were going to be a grandfather.  And then put away your own box of keepsakes to give to the grandkids!  Jerk.

Edited May 23, 2017 by Celia Rubenstein

[ZoloftBlob]

Add to that the constant griping from Matt about how Amy kept too much stuff and needed to clean it up. But yeah, that was an eye roll moment - "so you threw it all away", well, fuck me, Matt, when did you even express an interest in what the kids did, let alone what happened to their baby clothes that they stopped wearing 20+ years ago. Sewriously, this smacks of Matt wanting all the credit when he's on fucking DVD with how the only reason he keeps living is *the farm* and how his kids can fuck off until there's grandkids. And I already see problems with Matt's preference for a boy child.

[Whyyouneedaname]

1 hour ago, Celia Rubenstein said:

Nobody is going to finally resolve jack shit as long as they are living in each others' back yard.

& when my dad divorced his ex she moved just down the hill, they had I think 60 acres and split it. It was his from years ago and instead of selling her part and moving she could see every move he made.  Insane!

[HahYallDoin]

5 hours ago, Ina123 said:

I don't think an apology is necessary. I'm a chronic complainer on here of the way they (Amy AND Zach) eat with their mouths wide open. Yuk. If it's a breathing problem from being an LP, chew behind a napkin. They have got to be aware of it by now.

It's a pet peeve of mine too.

Cameron, from 'Southern Charm,' is a pretty woman but she eats like a cow chewing its cud. Totally repulsive and she has no possible LP issues. I can't believe that she hasn't corrected the issue after watching herself on TV. 

[Honey]

On 5/22/2017 at 10:56 AM, ZoloftBlob said:

Eh, the occasional mispronunciation, I try not to get on anyone's case - I've done it. The one that drives me wild with Amy is "parmesan" if only because I can't believe no one in her entire life has ever explained the correct way to say it. Oh, and I dislike how Jer tends to fixate on a word or two and uses it constantly. He likes dynamic and peculiar and as he drones on in a monotone about how his childhood home now has a peculiar dynamic and how he wants the baby to a peculiar but not weird name... and I just get a lil "Oh Jeremy, you're such a dumbass". I have a really bad feeling their gonna name the baby weird.

Everyone is my family, me included, has always pronounced is like "parm-a-shon". We also say sherbert.  Lol

[Honey]

5 hours ago, SunnyBeBe said:

From what I recall, Matt reminded Amy that he needed two things. pursuant to their written Agreement.   1.  For her to scan and forward him the family photos. 2. For her to remove her name from his bank accounts.  I don't recall him saying anything about other things. If he did, it wasn't the real focus.   It was Amy who told Matt that she Was NOT going to have the photos scanned by the date due in their Agreement.  She did say that she would address the bank account matter, but, she was irritated. Why get irritated that you agreed to something and didn't follow through? That's on you, not the other party.  She then huffed off home and packed up stuff in bags that wasn't even his stuff. Recall the pants nor vests fit.  This is a technique that's called diversion. You distract from the real issue, which was scanning the family photos, to odd clothes that Matt can't wear.  She knows that he values the family photos, so, what better way to keep control and his attention?  

And if you think that Matt should just keep silent and just call his lawyer about it? Well, that's about $300.00 an hour to address this matters. I can see why he wants to get it done without more lawyer time.   And, I would want my family photos scanned and her name off my account. That is normal.  

The thing I thought that showed Matt was just trying to be an asshole, is that he wanted his precious belongings back, this very minute, but couldn't even remember what those possessions were. He was actually surprised by some of the things while looking through them.

You say that Amy stomped off home to pack up the stuff, but I thought they were in Amy's house when he demanded his stuff.