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I agree on Angela going before Michael if Orange loses.  Although if Des and Angela don't realize that going into the merge and reuniting Bradle and Kellyn is the kiss of death then they deserve to go. 

Yes, waaay back on original tribes Sea Bass and Chris clicked over the FL keys, Florida thing.  But Chris isn't sleeping with Sea Bass and and I think SB might flip on Chris vs. Wendell

Lets hope its purple and Bradley goes.  If not just to knoc down some of that Naviti numbers thing that makes everything so boring.  (I've forgotten who Don is?)

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44 minutes ago, marys1000 said:

I agree on Angela going before Michael if Orange loses.  Although if Des and Angela don't realize that going into the merge and reuniting Bradle and Kellyn is the kiss of death then they deserve to go. 

Yes, waaay back on original tribes Sea Bass and Chris clicked over the FL keys, Florida thing.  But Chris isn't sleeping with Sea Bass and and I think SB might flip on Chris vs. Wendell

Lets hope its purple and Bradley goes.  If not just to knoc down some of that Naviti numbers thing that makes everything so boring.  (I've forgotten who Don is?)

 

You mean Dom as in Domenick?  Or Don as in Donathan?

One thing that might lead to Chris's ouster is Jenna could want to save Laurel, just for the old Malolo ties (even if she's spent more time with Sebastian than her).  But if Jenna wanted to keep Laurel, and Wendell was on board to vote Chris, that could also lead to Chris's ouster.  I could deal with Chris leaving, although he is some comic relief.  I could only imagine him in the Big Brother house, floating on a raft in the pool with the sun beating down on him and rock star sunglasses, and going on and on about his modeling shoots and pampered life.

But I really hope it's Brad.  Mainly because he's so obnoxious and not funny in a villainous way or 'so bad he's TV gold' way (at least to me), but I also want to see the look on Kellyn's face next week.

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So on Clubs That Suck they are saying the first two merge boots are Chris and Libby (this from the same source that spoiled the pre merge).  Chris isn’t too surprising since he’s been rumored to be the merge boot for awhile now.  Libby is kind of surprising since Probst was already talking about her return-and she’s barely had any airtime.  Maybe she has a break out edit between now and then.

Or maybe the editors just find out who Probst loves and makes them look the opposite of what he’s predicting.  Regardless there must be a reason Dom finds her threatening.  Looks like he’s going to run the merge, at least for the first couple of boots.  Can someone refresh my memory, is he allowed to use the legacy advantage on someone else or only himself?

ETA: Unless it is an extremely clever photoshop, both Clubs and Sucks have press photos this week that show Bradley getting his torch snuffed.  I have a really hard time believing that it's real, despite the spoiler that he goes.  Here's the photos in question.  They've been taken down off the press site.  I'm guessing someone is losing their job today.  Also looks like Kellyn goes to Ghost Island.

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By merge boot you mean first members of the jury?  And they are saying Bradley is out next?  Do we have another boot after that, the last before the merge?  I thought most of the lists seem to have Anglea either as the last boot before the merge, or the first member of the jury.  

Sorry to see Chris go.  Domenick seems like a blow hard, bit of an asshole with moments of likeablity.  What is it about these guys that tend to win?  

As for Libby - Probst mentioned bringing her back I think before they started.  He looooves her and I think its obvious on the beach.  Maybe we'll hear about why in an exit interview. 

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5 minutes ago, marys1000 said:

By merge boot you mean first members of the jury?  And they are saying Bradley is out next?  Do we have another boot after that, the last before the merge?  I thought most of the lists seem to have Anglea either as the last boot before the merge, or the first member of the jury.  

Sorry to see Chris go.  Domenick seems like a blow hard, bit of an asshole with moments of likeablity.  What is it about these guys that tend to win?  

As for Libby - Probst mentioned bringing her back I think before they started.  He looooves her and I think its obvious on the beach.  Maybe we'll hear about why in an exit interview. 

I just find it humorous that Libby has so far been a non entity, her biggest edit being in episode 3 by backstabbing Morgan.  Dom seems to think she's dangerous for whatever reason, so maybe they aren't showing something because she's an early merge boot and a big edit would be pointless.  Brad should be the last pre-merge boot, if they merge at 13 like normal.  Chris going at the merge after getting Dom back into the mix makes sense.  Could even be he gets idoled out.  I'm assuming he'll be the first juror, but I don't know.  Sometimes the merge boot is the first juror, sometimes not.  Lately they are, but last season Jessica was the first merge boot and didn't make the jury.

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Yeah Probst's comments about Libby were from the pre-season before the tribes even hit the beach. Apparently she just charmed the hell out of him during the casting process.  This is nothing for Probst though one just needs to go back to season 30 and read and listen to his pre-season thoughts and the way he was gushing over Hali Ford.  I suspect that Libby, like Hali before her, will probaby return in a  few year much to the surprise to many many viewers.

The other spoiler that was revealed today by SurvivorsFanAreLosers on reddit was that the final 5 consists of two original Malolos and three original  Navitis.He further stated that is was three men and two women.  Although he didn't name any names a lot of people seem to be speculating that they might be Laurel, Jenna, Sebastian,Wendell and Domenick.

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Those press photos are hilarious. CBS hasn't fucked up that bad since S1. YMMV but I like the kind of spoilers we've been getting this season - cryptic clues, press photos, etc, as opposed to straight out leaked boot lists. There's still an element of mystery. Well, except for this week, lol. But I'm fine with that too as it's exactly the outcome I was hoping for.

The photos also show Kellyn getting an advantage at GI. I wonder which it will be and how it will play out.

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What I love most about those pics is the before/after Brad.  One minute he's all grins, the next he looks like Donathan does sitting there.  Guessing he went from 'woo-hoo!  Naviti strong!' to 'you're supposed to be saying Libby/Donathan, the tribe has spoken.'

I'd have to go through the list and see what we have from Ghost Island that hasn't been found yet, but my guess would be Kellyn either gets an idol or part of the super idol. 

I really would have loved to have been a fly on the wall when they realized these press photos that were likely supposed to be posted the day after the episode were out there.  Maybe since Brad's boot was already spoiled, someone thought if you can't beat 'em, join 'em.  I always love spoilers, so I'm happy we have them this season (though wonder who the leak is).  We typically don't get spoilers like this is newbie seasons.

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6 hours ago, LanceM said:

Yeah Probst's comments about Libby were from the pre-season before the tribes even hit the beach. Apparently she just charmed the hell out of him during the casting process.  This is nothing for Probst though one just needs to go back to season 30 and read and listen to his pre-season thoughts and the way he was gushing over Hali Ford.  I suspect that Libby, like Hali before her, will probaby return in a  few year much to the surprise to many many viewers.

The other spoiler that was revealed today by SurvivorsFanAreLosers on reddit was that the final 5 consists of two original Malolos and three original  Navitis.He further stated that is was three men and two women.  Although he didn't name any names a lot of people seem to be speculating that they might be Laurel, Jenna, Sebastian,Wendell and Domenick.

There is 0 of the 9 numalolos in the final 5

I feel like Jenna, while having been on the losing tribe a lot, has been  carried along, by Stephanie and more importantly by SeaBass.  I think he has turned some votes for her around at least once if not twice or more.  To me it seems like she is being carried to the end by Sea Bass.  Stephanie said in an interview that they were close from day 1 but I wonder if they play it smart and keep it low key so people aren't feeling overly threatened.  Either that or SeaBass's alliance are just so strong he can protect her right up till the end.  

Generally it feels like there has been a big strategy lull, I can't think of much that Laurel has done, any of them has done.  Not sure we'll see a whole lot either.  With the urn deck being stacked for apres merge I think it will be advantages and challenge immunities that take people out,,along with strong alliances.  Which is boring.  I mean right now who deserves to win?  Too soon?  No one stands out based on pre merge play other than Chris based on his challenge prowess.  

At this point, I think Dom stands the best chance of winning.  Dom has gotten a far more visible edit, and though a villain, I think is making a convincing argument about winning.  We'll see what the merge part brings.  He might be too unlikable to win.  Wendell does seem more likable, though he might be seen as someone who just followed Dom.  Hard to say at this point.

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Can not wait to see what happens next week, and if Chris is idoled out or just plain voted out.  I can believe him and Libby are next, as they seem to be setting her up.  My guess is she might go rogue and try to make a big move but it backfires.  That could be where the dangerous talk is leading.

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I was thinking if Chris teams up with the 5 remaining Malolo members, Domenick will still have the numbers. It would be six votes to Domenick, and seven votes for Chris. Domenick playing his idol or his legacy advantage would save him if most of the votes were cast on him.

It appears that some of the Malolos wouldn't align with Chris. Laurel formed an alliance with Domenick and Donathan, too.

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Finally some changes to The List of the Cursed.  And with the merge about to happen, this tracking might become more important.

  • One of James' idols from China [Became Malolo's first HII; Found and played by Michael.  Curse "not broken".]
  • Tai's Super Idol half from Kaoh Rong
  • Kyle/Scot's Super Idol half from Kaoh Rong
  • Andrea's pocket idol from Caramoan [Became Naviti's HII; Currently in Domenick's possession.]
  • Jon's pocket idol from BvW2 (SJDS)
  • JT's pocket idol from Game Changers
  • The burnt Shell idol from HvHvH
  • Ozzy's Fake Idol (the "f-ing stick") from FvF [Became a real HII and Malolo's second HII; Currently in Michael's possession]
  • David's Fake Idol (the one Jay found and played) from MvGX
  • Malcolm's Challenge Advantage from the Philippines F4
  • Dan's Second Vote from Worlds Apart
  • Fishbach's Vote Steal from Second Chances
  • Sarah's (non-transferable) Vote Steal from Game Changers [Found by Kellyn on GI.  Usable only as a second vote without a steal. Currently in Kellyn's possession.]
  • The Legacy Advantage from Game Changers [Found by Jacob on GI; "reactivated" when willed to Morgan; Morgan willed to Domenick.  Available for use at next TC (F13).]
  • Lauren's Saved Vote from HvHvH
  • The Immunity Necklace from FvF [Became Yanuya's HII; Currently in Wendell's possession.]

This makes 6 of the (now confirmed) 16 "cursed" items in play at some point, and the potential for still more of the remaining 10 to also become active.  And there's 10 eliminations to go, so....

Since Kellyn had a "2/3rds chance" of getting an advantage on GI, I suspect that the other potential advantage there was either the Worlds Apart 2nd Vote, or Lauren's Saved Vote.  Either of those would be equivalent to the revised advantage Kellyn did get, so there wouldn't be a power imbalance.

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How was it watching the episode again? You had some friends over last night…

Bradley: I watched with Stephanie [Johnson] and Michael, and Stephanie's two kids. Those poor two kids. They've met all of us pre-mergers now, and every week, they start crying and they look at Stephanie: "Mom, why are all of our friends getting voted out?" (Laughs.) Again, last night, they had no idea I was going home. They watched it, and as the votes start coming in, her older son looks at me with these big eyes and water starts pouring out: "Why does this keep happening?" And I'm like, "You and me both."

 

Not definitive nor would it be a surprise

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On 4/5/2018 at 12:24 AM, Kenz said:

It's strange that Wendell went looking for the idol in long pants and a long sleeve shirt, then all of a sudden he was in a different shirt and shorts right before he dug up the idol. Maybe they had him reenact the discovery for some reason, but why the change in clothes? You'd think they would keep track of that detail. The idols found by Michael and Wendell certainly were not hidden well. They seemed to be popping right out of the ground. The discovery of idols has always seemed fishy to me, and this time it seemed obvious that it was just too easy to find them.

 

On 4/5/2018 at 12:37 AM, ByaNose said:

It’s amazing how they magically appeared on the ground. Obviously, Survivor wanted them to be found. Of course, it is guys who find them. Either the woman don’t go idol hunting or they’re terrible at finding them. I don’t know what the odds are but I’m guessing it’s 10 to 1 in favor of men finding them. I don’t know why that is but that’s my impression. Any ideas?

Yea.  I'm not that happy with this season.  Manipulation and crap editing. 

To wonder why they make looking like getting rid of Bradley is a popularlity contest when you figure it was probably a strategic decision to break up him and Kellyn before the merge - then to hear not only that yes, that is true AND that Domenick threw the challenge..............and we don't get a peep of any of that?  WTF

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4 hours ago, marys1000 said:

 

Yea.  I'm not that happy with this season.  Manipulation and crap editing. 

To wonder why they make looking like getting rid of Bradley is a popularlity contest when you figure it was probably a strategic decision to break up him and Kellyn before the merge - then to hear not only that yes, that is true AND that Domenick threw the challenge..............and we don't get a peep of any of that?  WTF

This, exactly.  Why not show us actual strategizing?  I'd rather see the game being played artfully than have artificial suspense built up every episode.  But obviously I'm not one that cares much about suspense since I'm hanging out in the spoilers thread.  

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Since they didn't bother to show that that they threw the challenge to get rid of Bradley (either because they can't abide him or they were worried about his bond with Kellyn), I wonder if that means that none of those folks -- Dom, Donathan, Chelsea -- goes on to win?  Engineering that and pulling it off would be a nice part of one's "resume," no? 

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Well Jenna has switched to Sea Bass who is friends with Chris but also a Naviti.  Donathan has switched to Domenick/Naviti.  Laurel maybe too.  That leaves...Libby and Chris?  

Domenick was a dick day 1 to say Chris made the wrong call, especially when he didn't.  I don't think he can stand any other alpha male challenging him and is going to go after Chris for first thing.  Given the idol and alliance situation Chris hasn't a chance.  So I game hate Domenick and have pretty much since he raised his hnd on the beach.  

I don't mind Domenick.  He's an interesting character.  I hate the focus of Dom vs Chris so for that alone I don't mind one of them going.  Chris though I enjoy more than I thought, for all the wrong reasons.  But damn, this is a guy who clearly stares in the mirror several hours a day and thinks about how dreamy he is.  He'd be feeds gold if he went on Big Brother.

Count me in as those disappointed we didn't actually see Domenick talk about throwing the challenge.  I also hate that we barely get any TC time, unless some big event happens that they try to hype up.  I would have loved to have seen TH of Bradley and how he's running the game and the smartest person there, then switching to Domenick about how he threw the challenge.  But this show is so fixated on blindsides and making a vote seem as shocking as they can (even when it's not).

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On 4/7/2018 at 9:04 AM, marys1000 said:

Well Jenna has switched to Sea Bass who is friends with Chris but also a Naviti.  Donathan has switched to Domenick/Naviti.  Laurel maybe too.  That leaves...Libby and Chris?  

Domenick was a dick day 1 to say Chris made the wrong call, especially when he didn't.  I don't think he can stand any other alpha male challenging him and is going to go after Chris for first thing.  Given the idol and alliance situation Chris hasn't a chance.  So I game hate Domenick and have pretty much since he raised his hnd on the beach.  

I don't think it was the wrong call it doesn't look good as a leader to give up on your tribe in the very first challenge.

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16 hours ago, anthonyd46 said:

I don't think it was the wrong call it doesn't look good as a leader to give up on your tribe in the very first challenge.

Because - its better to just take the loss and not get the fishing gear or whatever it was so they have nothing to survive with?  

Because its better to stand and watch one of your team members totally fail? 

 Good for Dom I guess because Des would have made an obvious boot after a big fail like that.  Sure is like giving up on Des to just let her fail in front of everyone. 

And if, taking your philosophy to its conclusion -  its bad to give up on your tribe - then yea Dom sucks because raising his hand and calling out a tribe member as making the wrong decision is "giving up" on a tribe member - making them look bad, as opposed to presenting a united front,

something you do not do if you are trying to to create strength and unity.  It was a dick move because there was no reward for it other than an advantage to him as  a way to shoot for a strong male right off the beach.  He was mad because Chris raised his hand and put himself in the leadership postion and he wanted to shoot that down.  

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On 4/6/2018 at 6:09 PM, dizzyd said:

Well, as far as showmances go, they do look good together. Can't tell if there's a ? involved already considering he's 18 and she's 24. 

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If they are an item, Bradley and Kellyn are also perfect for each other.

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Micheal and Libby must've gotten to know each other real well after the show OR in Pondersoa cause they haven't worked together on the show and it's Specualted she s first member of the Jury

3 hours ago, LadyChatts said:

So is Chris for sure not going to make jury?

I haven't read that anywhere. I just checked sucks and reddit and the spoiler info there hasn't changed. Not sure where @jay197804 got their info. As far as the Libby/Michael showmance and how it comes about, as I recall in the pre-game interviews there was a lot of mutual interest being expressed by the two of them. I wouldn't be surprised if things got hot and heavy fast in Ponderosa. Damn, they sure are a pretty couple! The age difference is kinda weird, but at least he looks and acts older than 18.  Or maybe Libby's been believing he was 23 this whole time and only found out the truth when the show aired, lol.

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6 hours ago, marys1000 said:

Because - its better to just take the loss and not get the fishing gear or whatever it was so they have nothing to survive with?  

Because its better to stand and watch one of your team members totally fail? 

 Good for Dom I guess because Des would have made an obvious boot after a big fail like that.  Sure is like giving up on Des to just let her fail in front of everyone. 

And if, taking your philosophy to its conclusion -  its bad to give up on your tribe - then yea Dom sucks because raising his hand and calling out a tribe member as making the wrong decision is "giving up" on a tribe member - making them look bad, as opposed to presenting a united front,

something you do not do if you are trying to to create strength and unity.  It was a dick move because there was no reward for it other than an advantage to him as  a way to shoot for a strong male right off the beach.  He was mad because Chris raised his hand and put himself in the leadership postion and he wanted to shoot that down.  

 

You are forgetting the timer. If the timer ran out BOTH tribes lose. Laurel was really not anywhere close to finishing the puzzle and probably wouldn't have finished before the timer ran out. I can see if Laurel was just about to finish, but she wasn't.

Also for giving up you are handing the other tribe Shelter Items + 20 eggs + FLINT , while if you lose properly all you lose is fishing gear. So you keep the fishing gear, but give the other tribe Shelter Items + 20 eggs + FLINT by forfeiting.

If you the timer runs out both tribes lose and are on the same playing field

If you lose properly you don't get the fishing gear but then the other tribe isn't getting eggs and flint as a bonus and you would still receive the shelter items for losing.

I just think forfeiting on people you don't really know doesn't show tribe unity at all. 

I am not saying what Dom did was the best thing for tribe unity it wasn't, but if both tribes would be on an even level playing field if the time ran out why give up on your tribe and put your tribe at a disadvantage? You have now given the other tribe more things than yours because your forfeited when if you let it play out and the timer ran out both tribes are on an even playing field.

 

So to summarize : 

Winners : Shelter items + Fishing Gear

Losers : Shelter items 

Forefit winners : Shelter Items + Fishing Gear + 20 Eggs + Flint

Forefit losers : Fishing Gear

Both tribes run out of time : They both get nothing. 

Its really not worth it to give up on those stakes unless Laurel was really really close to finish and she wasn't.

4 hours ago, LadyChatts said:

So is Chris for sure not going to make jury? Might be kind of telling if TPTB want a Dom win and think Chris being in the jury house could mess that up, especially being the first juror.

Chris should be on the jury. Nothing points to it not being.

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After tonight I'm stunned if Angela actually makes the final 6 (5?)  She seems so clueless to everything going on, but I guess that might work to her advantage.  So looks like Libby is next.  I hope this doesn't turn into an almost Malolo blood bath.  I don't want Kellyn to get her Naviti strong satisfaction.  Hopefully her boot is on the horizon.

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12 minutes ago, TVFan1 said:

The spoilers indicate Libby is the next to go. I read somewhere that after Libby goes, it will be Michael and Jenna that follow. I will hate it if the Malolo's start getting picked off. 

Yes, Kellyn needs to go. Can't stand her at all.

This is my worst fear.  Damn, Kellyn's going to get her way.  Naviti strong is going to ruin this season (which isn't great, but isn't terrible, and sure beats last season).  On the bright side, if she does lead a charge of Naviti strong that'll just make people hate her more.  So the final 5 is looking to possibly be Domenick, Wendell, Laurel, Donathan, and Angela.  Really hoping Kellyn doesn't make it to the final 6, and gets blindsided or idoled out sooner rather than later.  I can see where they are building to a Libby boot, and setting Michael up.  They may want to separate Seabass and Jenna, too.

So possibly it's Libby, Michael, Jenna, Des/Chelsea/Kellyn/Sebastian, I'm thinking then Angela, Donathan loses a fire tie breaker, and then Dom/Wendell/Laurel final 3.  I was going for a Dom win, but now I'm thinking Wendell's got a shot.  

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