S13.E14: Sister Surrogacy

[OnceSane]

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Khloé explores the possibility of becoming Kim's surrogate but receives some shocking news about her own fertility in the process; the sisters pressure Kourtney to step up her flirting game; Rob threatens to bail on his 30th birthday

[iwasish]

Done. done. and done over and over again.

The fertility shit was done seasons ago.

Rob bails every week at least.

 

When Khloe was married to Lamar she went along with Kim to the same specialist ( I think), he told her she wasn't ovulating and might have difficult time getting pregnant.  Supposedly she and Lamar were undergoing treatments in order to get pregnant and then Lamar stopped going to his appointments and then the whole drug mess hit the news.   Now we are rehashing this whole storyline with a new BF? Maybe the guy doesn't want another kid.. he doesn't seem too interest in the one he has. And if Khloe has baby fever he and any other guy she dates or fucks had better make sure they keep that thing wrapped or they'll be hearing the patter of little feet.

Edited June 8, 2017 by iwasish

[GaT]

So, when they had Kim talking about going off birth control, she was actually already pregnant. Now we have Khloe going off of birth control, with a boyfriend who when asked if he wanted kids said he would let God take decide, most of the episode was dedicated to Khloe & her womb, & we got confirmation she can get pregnant & during the voice overs at the end, Kris said "You never know when to expect another grandchild, I’m looking forward to seeing who’s next" Anybody want to take a bet on whether Khloe is already pregnant or not?

[bichonblitz]

4 hours ago, GaT said:

Anybody want to take a bet on whether Khloe is already pregnant or not?

Oh, god, let's hope not. This relationship with Tristan is never going to last. The guy is 26, has a newborn and I'm sure endless baby mama drama to deal with. Why does Khloe do this shit to herself? Does Kris ever worry about the stupid choices her daughters make? Does she ever think any of the men these girls hook up with are bad decisions? Oh, that's right, she didn't like Kris Humphries. The sanest one of them all. 

[iwasish]

3 hours ago, bichonblitz said:

Oh, god, let's hope not. This relationship with Tristan is never going to last. The guy is 26, has a newborn and I'm sure endless baby mama drama to deal with. Why does Khloe do this shit to herself? Does Kris ever worry about the stupid choices her daughters make? Does she ever think any of the men these girls hook up with are bad decisions? Oh, that's right, she didn't like Kris Humphries. The sanest one of them all. 

And she was so annoyed at Kourtney for not getting married when/before Mason was born.  Now who cares if they are married or not just pop those kids out.

 

I think this show has had it's day. Long overdue to end it. Kourtney's kids are going to be heading off to school. Kim to worry about Kanye's mental health. Rob is a complete. Kylie has her own business and Kendall hates being on the show. Khloe is the only one along with Kris who has nothing else going on. End it. Please.

[nexxie]

Did Tristan leave his baby mama for Khloe? 

[Primetimer]

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[TheVoicesToldMeTo]

55 minutes ago, nexxie said:

Did Tristan leave his baby mama for Khloe? 

I don't think so, but there wasn't much time inbetween the split with the baby mama and the start of the relationship with Khloe.  He would have definitely known the ex was pregnant when he started the relationship with Khloe,

I know it's just a show (and I hope K! fans know that too) but I just hate how blaise and ignorant these people are about marriage and pregnancy.  Rob trying to make (and made!) a baby with his girlfriend of about a month.  Khloe seeing a fertility specialist around what would have been 6-7 months into her new relationship.  Kourtney basically deciding she wants a third kid apparently without telling Scott she was going off birth control (at least he seemed like he wasn't aware they were "trying").  Everyone marrying people they've known for 5 seconds.  I hope their young impressionable fans do not think this is how real people live.  For regular people these poorly thought out decisions ruin lives, not to mention keep the cycle of poverty going for the next generation.  For Kardashians, it's made them insanely wealthy.  It's just mind boggling. 

[twilightzone]

5 hours ago, bichonblitz said:

Oh, god, let's hope not. This relationship with Tristan is never going to last. The guy is 26, has a newborn and I'm sure endless baby mama drama to deal with. Why does Khloe do this shit to herself? Does Kris ever worry about the stupid choices her daughters make? Does she ever think any of the men these girls hook up with are bad decisions? Oh, that's right, she didn't like Kris Humphries. The sanest one of them all. 

Kris actually hated Scott Disick for years.  The real Kris Humphries actually turn out to be a jerk.

[bichonblitz]

3 minutes ago, twilightzone said:

Kris actually hated Scott Disick for years. 

Until he sired some grandkids for her. Now he's always around, walking in to her house, going on vacations with them,  and Kris has total disregard that He and Kourt have broken up and maybe, just maybe, Kourtney would like to move on. 

3 minutes ago, twilightzone said:

The real Kris Humphries actually turn out to be a jerk.

How so?  Because he was used and then thrown away, humiliated and embarrassed in front of the world? I think that just might turn me in to a jerk during a break up, too. 

Edited June 12, 2017 by bichonblitz

[TheVoicesToldMeTo]

6 minutes ago, twilightzone said:

Kris actually hated Scott Disick for years.  The real Kris Humphries actually turn out to be a jerk.

If Kris hates you, she's not going to give you screen time on her show (cough - Cait).  Or manage your career, or hire paparazzi to follow you around to "catch" you canoodling with various groupies and wannabes for tabloid paycheck.  Not too long ago I rewatched the first season and Scott was already being staged as a long term cast member.  Kris knew she was creating her own soap opera and Scott was so perfect because he was malleable enough that he could fit the role of hero or villain, love interest to Kourtney or sycophant to Kris, alcoholic or sex addict during a filming period where no one is pregnant or getting married, and willing to do anything for a paycheck (ugh that whole Todd Kraines gag or actually every scene where he is forced to compliment or play footsies with Kris J).

The Hump was an ass.   And dumb.   And openly mocked the show and everything the Kardashians represent, and shot himself in the foot as far as public sympathy goes.  I suspect they chose him because Kim was attracted to him enough to (sex) go through with the whirlwind courtship, engagement, marriage, but also wouldn't be too terribly crippled with guilt upon dumping via text 72 days later. 

[twilightzone]

27 minutes ago, bichonblitz said:

Until he sired some grandkids for her. Now he's always around, walking in to her house, going on vacations with them,  and Kris has total disregard that He and Kourt have broken up and maybe, just maybe, Kourtney would like to move on.

How so?  Because he was used and then thrown away, humiliated and embarrassed in front of the world? I think that just might turn me in to a jerk during a break up, too. 

Whether it's Scott, Kanye, or Blac Chynna, the parents of the grandkids will always be in the Kardashians lives.

The Hump was a dumbass who tried to use the K family to get himself in the spotlight.

Edited June 12, 2017 by twilightzone

[WhosThatGirl]

I mean.. everything about this show is so badly faked. The only thing worth noting is Khloe admitting that she fake tried to get pregnant with Lamer. And when says "for Lamer" I think she means she was doing it to protect his image and what was really going down with the drugs. Because if she wasn't telling people "yes we are trying" everyone was probably going to ask why they weren't trying.

[GaT]

20 minutes ago, WhosThatGirl said:

I mean.. everything about this show is so badly faked. The only thing worth noting is Khloe admitting that she fake tried to get pregnant with Lamer.

Unless she's lying about fake trying & is just trying to convince everyone that she really didn't try to get pregnant knowing that the baby daddy had big addiction issues. She's a Kardashian, she'll tell whatever story she thinks makes her look good.

[TheVoicesToldMeTo]

23 minutes ago, WhosThatGirl said:

I mean.. everything about this show is so badly faked. The only thing worth noting is Khloe admitting that she fake tried to get pregnant with Lamer. And when says "for Lamer" I think she means she was doing it to protect his image and what was really going down with the drugs. Because if she wasn't telling people "yes we are trying" everyone was probably going to ask why they weren't trying.
 

Do you think she faked going to the fertility clinic (liked to Lamar), or just lied in the media about going through with treatments for attention?  I'm thinking the latter.

I'm glad Al Lowe got this recap out so quickly this morning, but I disagree with this:

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Why Wouldn't Keeping Up With The Kardashians's Kim Just Ask Kourtney To Be Her Surrogate?

Kourtney just turned 38.  Any pregnancy now would be automatically labeled as high risk by her OBGYN.  If Kim really wants a 3rd bio kid, she (and the baby) may be better off hiring someone younger.  She has the money to create the most risk free environment for a new baby and the woman carrying the child.

[iwasish]

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Until he sired some grandkids for her. Now he's always around, walking in to her house, going on vacations with them,  and Kris has total disregard that He and Kourt have broken up and maybe, just maybe, Kourtney would like to move on. 

She did the same with Lamar.  Khloe finally told her, "if you want to fuck him... he's available"

[WhosThatGirl]

5 minutes ago, GaT said:

Unless she's lying about fake trying & is just trying to convince everyone that she really didn't try to get pregnant knowing that the baby daddy had big addiction issues. She's a Kardashian, she'll tell whatever story she thinks makes her look good.

True. But she did protect Lamer. That is true. She went above and beyond to protect his drug problem from the media until she couldn't because he wasn't able to even keep a job. 

 

1 minute ago, TheVoicesToldMeTo said:

Do you think she faked going to the fertility clinic (liked to Lamar), or just lied in the media about going through with treatments for attention?  I'm thinking the latter.

I'm glad Al Lowe got this recap out so quickly this morning, but I disagree with this:

Kourtney just turned 38.  Any pregnancy now would be automatically labeled as high risk by her OBGYN.  If Kim really wants a 3rd bio kid, she (and the baby) may be better off hiring someone younger.  She has the money to create the most risk free environment for a new baby and the woman carrying the child.

I think the latter as well. And while it may have been for attention, I think it was also to protect the image she had going on. She talked all the time about wanting to start a family and so she was asked about it and if she didn't say she was trying then people would want to know why and laker had his issues.

And look probably "protecting Lamer" was in a way as much as for her image as it was for him. She had to keep it away from the media because she didn't want everyone to know what was going on. 

[iwasish]

How many people attended Rob's Bday party? I saw maybe a dozen. And what is the obsession with having these enormous parties for every single birthday?  I breathe a sigh of relief every time I ask family members if they want to do something "special" for their big day  and they say "no, lets just have cake". Cause really what else matters on a birthday except cake?

The vision board of yellow stickies that Jamal and Rob created?  He cant drag his ass out of bed  till noon and Jamal thinks that board will motivate him?

[TheVoicesToldMeTo]

2 hours ago, iwasish said:

How many people attended Rob's Bday party? I saw maybe a dozen. And what is the obsession with having these enormous parties for every single birthday?  I breathe a sigh of relief every time I ask family members if they want to do something "special" for their big day  and they say "no, lets just have cake". Cause really what else matters on a birthday except cake?

The vision board of yellow stickies that Jamal and Rob created?  He cant drag his ass out of bed  till noon and Jamal thinks that board will motivate him?

Was this the same bday party in the rented out theater that Caitlyn attended? 

I just cannot even imagine being in that family and being contractually obligated to attend every single persons non-milestone birthday.  There are likely 3 per week.   I would die of contact-latex poisoning from all of those balloons, or diabetes from all of the sugary 6 story birthday cakes, or fumes emanating from the try-hardness of all of their yeezy/ghastly garments, or of a massive cringe induced stroke from Kris' constant attempts to hijack the events by announcing she may be ovulating.  

[nexxie]

 What I really like about this show is seeing the kids - they are a bunch of cuties and do seem happy and surrounded by loving aunties and uncles. Wish they'd show Reign and Saint playing together!

[itisnirina]

11 hours ago, nexxie said:

Did Tristan leave his baby mama for Khloe? 

I actually think he did but I'm pretty sure they or he paid the girl to stfu about their relationship..

no one talks about it anymore, it's like she disappeared 

I am waiting for Khloe to get pregnant now. She is the last one with no kids and she looks like she would be a great mom!

[iwasish]

2 hours ago, itisnirina said:

I actually think he did but I'm pretty sure they or he paid the girl to stfu about their relationship..

no one talks about it anymore, it's like she disappeared 

I am waiting for Khloe to get pregnant now. She is the last one with no kids and she looks like she would be a great mom!

Sorry , but I think she'd be a lousy mother.  I don't find her to be maternal in the least. She's all about Khloe all the time.

[iwasish]

7 hours ago, TheVoicesToldMeTo said:

Was this the same bday party in the rented out theater that Caitlyn attended? 

I just cannot even imagine being in that family and being contractually obligated to attend every single persons non-milestone birthday.  There are likely 3 per week.   I would die of contact-latex poisoning from all of those balloons, or diabetes from all of the sugary 6 story birthday cakes, or fumes emanating from the try-hardness of all of their yeezy/ghastly garments, or of a massive cringe induced stroke from Kris' constant attempts to hijack the events by announcing she may be ovulating.  

Or her endless refrain about "making memories" when all she's really interested in is  making sure that the world knows that her family is able to commandeer entire theatres, bowling alleys, theme parks etc, so they can celebrate and show off all the expensive clothing and bling they've accumulated.

[TheVoicesToldMeTo]

So if Life of Kylie doesn't premiere until August, will there really be no K! TV for two whole months? 

[Al Lowe]

So if Life of Kylie doesn't premiere until August, will there really be no K! TV for two whole months? 

Enjoy this time of clean living!

[RHJunkie]

On 2017-06-12 at 5:50 AM, bichonblitz said:

Oh, god, let's hope not. This relationship with Tristan is never going to last. The guy is 26, has a newborn and I'm sure endless baby mama drama to deal with. Why does Khloe do this shit to herself? Does Kris ever worry about the stupid choices her daughters make? Does she ever think any of the men these girls hook up with are bad decisions? Oh, that's right, she didn't like Kris Humphries. The sanest one of them all. 

Probably not - the more real life drama means the less creative writing and acting that is required for their show. 

Based on timelines, their show isn't actually in real time anyhow. Even if anything they show is remotely real and actually happened to them, it seems that a lot happens prior to filming and they just rehash it in front of the cameras...so of course they get to tweak the story with whatever narrative they want. Rob is the only one that doesn't benefit...he's the only one who doesn't ever have shit just work out for him but for the rest of the them, they all seemingly have epiphanies and become 'better people' because the universe is just so marvelous that way that it all happens when the cameras are around.

[nkotb]

10 hours ago, iwasish said:

Sorry , but I think she'd be a lousy mother.  I don't find her to be maternal in the least. She's all about Khloe all the time.

I would feel so sorry for her kids. I'm no saint, or "Saint" in this family, but her mouth is filthy, no matter who is around, so her poor children will have that type of vocabulary, which likely won't change, because they'll be home-schooled, I'm sure. I remember the time Rob invited Cheetah Girl's (can't remember her name, Brandy?) family camping, & Khloe knew they were all conservative, but she kept asking Kris about Bruce's anatomy & their sex life, even though it was obvious that everyone was uncomfortable with it. She's just vulgar & crude, & not in the funny way she thinks she is. 

On the other hand, the only Kardashian parent who actually seems to spend time with their kids is Kourtney, so Khloe would likely not spend time with her kids, either. Maybe they'd escape & not f-bomb as their first word.

[TheVoicesToldMeTo]

According to Mariah Smith's NYmag recap, Khloe's first visit with Dr Huang was on March 1, and her lunch with Kim to announce her ovaries were back in business took place March 31.  Speedy recovery for those follicles!

[TheVoicesToldMeTo]

1 hour ago, Al Lowe said:

Enjoy this time of clean living!

Will you be recapping LoK? Please please please please :)

[iwasish]

6 hours ago, TheVoicesToldMeTo said:

According to Mariah Smith's NYmag recap, Khloe's first visit with Dr Huang was on March 1, and her lunch with Kim to announce her ovaries were back in business took place March 31.  Speedy recovery for those follicles!

It's just all bullshit. When Khloe was crying about her cramps to Rob, I was thinking "doesn't the pill usually reduce or eliminate cramps? Wasn't  that the reason Kris told Caitlyn that "little Kendall" was on the pill"  At least  90% of my friends who take the pill, barely get a period, alone cramps. And Khloe  has been on the pill for years. Again, the whole scenario is BS. It can take months to get pregnant after long term use of the pill, no way is she back up to better than average within 30 days.

I wonder how their father would feel about his daughters all having illegitimate kids.

 

I noticed too that Khloe conveniently didn't mention that Tristan  already had a child, only that he wanted to have 5 or six with her,

Edited June 13, 2017 by iwasish

[DangerousMinds]

On June 12, 2017 at 0:04 PM, TheVoicesToldMeTo said:

If Kris hates you, she's not going to give you screen time on her show (cough - Cait).  Or manage your career, or hire paparazzi to follow you around to "catch" you canoodling with various groupies and wannabes for tabloid paycheck.  Not too long ago I rewatched the first season and Scott was already being staged as a long term cast member.  Kris knew she was creating her own soap opera and Scott was so perfect because he was malleable enough that he could fit the role of hero or villain, love interest to Kourtney or sycophant to Kris, alcoholic or sex addict during a filming period where no one is pregnant or getting married, and willing to do anything for a paycheck (ugh that whole Todd Kraines gag or actually every scene where he is forced to compliment or play footsies with Kris J).

The Hump was an ass.   And dumb.   And openly mocked the show and everything the Kardashians represent, and shot himself in the foot as far as public sympathy goes.  I suspect they chose him because Kim was attracted to him enough to (sex) go through with the whirlwind courtship, engagement, marriage, but also wouldn't be too terribly crippled with guilt upon dumping via text 72 days later. 

Mocking the show and these disgusting famewhores made him seem smart to me.

[iwasish]

I do think that Kris was not happy with the quick end to the marriage. But she quickly got over it when she found out that Kanye was sniffing around and hot for Kim.

[bagatelle]

On 6/12/2017 at 1:14 PM, iwasish said:

How many people attended Rob's Bday party? I saw maybe a dozen. And what is the obsession with having these enormous parties for every single birthday? 

I also noticed there were few people there, try as the editors did, to keep everything in closeup so we wouldn't notice the empty room.

[red12]

On 6/12/2017 at 7:33 PM, itisnirina said:

I actually think he did but I'm pretty sure they or he paid the girl to stfu about their relationship..

no one talks about it anymore, it's like she disappeared 

I am waiting for Khloe to get pregnant now. She is the last one with no kids and she looks like she would be a great mom!

At the time the news of Khloe and Tristan first broke,  word was they met at a wedding he attended with his then 7 months pregnant girlfriend. He left the girl shortly after and Khloe was 'in love' again.

In unrelated news, the baby momma is 1st cousin to Kevin Hart's current wife. They look a lot alike. 

I don't know what Khloe has against men who are without a trunk full of baggage. 

Edited June 14, 2017 by red12

[GaT]

22 minutes ago, red12 said:

I don't know what Khloe has against men who are without a trunk full of baggage. 

Men with a trunk full of baggage are the only ones interested in her.

[WhosThatGirl]

12 hours ago, GaT said:

Men with a trunk full of baggage are the only ones interested in her.

But also I think Khloe is so attached to the "being in love" story. I think she makes the choice to ignore warning signs because she just wants to be in love. Neither Kim or Kourtney have this problem. Kourtney always seems so detached from any and all emotions,  except for the kids. And Kim seems to run purely on calculated decisions, especially when it comes to her personal life. She would never take someone else's baggage. But I think Khloe is just so about being in love, that she will overlook big flaws and red flags.

[red12]

37 minutes ago, WhosThatGirl said:

But also I think Khloe is so attached to the "being in love" story. I think she makes the choice to ignore warning signs because she just wants to be in love. Neither Kim or Kourtney have this problem. Kourtney always seems so detached from any and all emotions,  except for the kids. And Kim seems to run purely on calculated decisions, especially when it comes to her personal life. She would never take someone else's baggage. But I think Khloe is just so about being in love, that she will overlook big flaws and red flags.

I will throw my nonexistent psychological training in on this and speculate that Khloe also has a thing about being "chosen". This is what causes her to become quickly attached to men who are not cleanly available to commit to another relationship. The "love" is highlighted by the fact that the guy was willing to leave his probably still grieving partner (Lamar had recently experienced the death of a child and had 2 other children with is previous partner) and appear to give up drugs to be with her. Their "love" is so magical that it heals wounds. Her devotion and baby talk will be the thing to turn these guys into amazing men. That other woman although the mother of these guys kids, just doesn't understand him. Khloe is what he needs. 

My guess is that this sort of behavior comes from how inferior she felt to her sisters (especially Kim) when they were younger. I know her "revenge body" journey has solved all her insecurities, but as the quote goes "I can't hear what you say, 'cuz I see what you do."

[WhosThatGirl]

3 hours ago, red12 said:

I will throw my nonexistent psychological training in on this and speculate that Khloe also has a thing about being "chosen". This is what causes her to become quickly attached to men who are not cleanly available to commit to another relationship. The "love" is highlighted by the fact that the guy was willing to leave his probably still grieving partner (Lamar had recently experienced the death of a child and had 2 other children with is previous partner) and appear to give up drugs to be with her. Their "love" is so magical that it heals wounds. Her devotion and baby talk will be the thing to turn these guys into amazing men. That other woman although the mother of these guys kids, just doesn't understand him. Khloe is what he needs. 

My guess is that this sort of behavior comes from how inferior she felt to her sisters (especially Kim) when they were younger. I know her "revenge body" journey has solved all her insecurities, but as the quote goes "I can't hear what you say, 'cuz I see what you do."

This too I agree. I also remember when she said something like "see Lamar loved me when I was fat so that was a big deal for me"

[ladle]

On 6/14/2017 at 7:02 PM, red12 said:

I don't know what Khloe has against men who are without a trunk full of baggage. 

Well we all know the Kardashian name is synonymous with junk in the trunk. 

And wait --Hold up -- When Khloe re: turning water into wine, said to Rob, "Mom does that with us every day," was that a reference to how Kris has managed to somehow take this talentless family, get it a series, and spin it into ratings gold?  Because, if so, I might actually like Khloe now....Or was she just calling her mom a lush?

Is it just me or is Kim weirdly flirty with Tristan? 

And is Kylie on this show or what? 

[iwasish]

9 hours ago, ladle said:

Well we all know the Kardashian name is synonymous with junk in the trunk. 

And wait --Hold up -- When Khloe re: turning water into wine, said to Rob, "Mom does that with us every day," was that a reference to how Kris has managed to somehow take this talentless family, get it a series, and spin it into ratings gold?  Because, if so, I might actually like Khloe now....Or was she just calling her mom a lush?

Is it just me or is Kim weirdly flirty with Tristan? 

And is Kylie on this show or what? 

Yeah Kim has a problem with boundaries. Did she shove her fat ass in Lamars face a few times? And for someone who hates Scott, she was out partying with him while Kourt was pregnant. I think she wants to make it seem like she could have these guys IF she wanted but since she doesn't, it's okay for the others to have them.

Edited June 21, 2017 by iwasish

[red12]

9 hours ago, iwasish said:

Yeah Kim has a problem with boundaries. Did she shove her fat ass in Lamars face a few times? And for someone who hates Scott, she was out partying with him while Kourt was pregnant. I think she wants to make it seem like she could have these guys IF she wanted but since she doesn't, it's okay for the others to have them.

I am looking forward to her trying her Norma Desmond routine on North West's boyfriends. 

[Picture It. Sicily]

She's totally going to be Amy Poehler's character in Mean Girls.

[Crazydoxielady]

I think this show ran its course two years ago. Its pretty pathetic. But my positives: I love seeing Kim's kids, they are so beautiful especially her son. Her need for another child is silly, its an attempt to save a marriage to a mentally ill man, and its not the answer. Kanye needs intensive ongoing therapy, not another baby.

I'm happy Kris won't speak to Caitlyn. Caitlyn has proven herself to a very unlikeable person. Glad her show was canceled. Hate the voice, the dress up quality of every interaction, and her whole "look at me persona."

Kyle has jacked up her face worse than anyone. I don't understand the youth of today following her, and certainly won't watch her spin off. That she has been allowed to date a grown man since before she was 18 is disgusting, and she looks rode hard and put away wet at her tender age already. And that face...those lips...if not posing for a photo, when seeing her in real life she has a Joker quality to her face.

I love Khloes house most of all, particularly her out door area. I love the house porn on this show. And who lines up the cookies in her cookie jar in her kitchen?  I have no idea if she will last with Tristan or not, but I do hope she gets pregnant at some point in her life. There is a real sadness about her, and I think she would be a great mom.

Kourtney is boring. The Scott storyline is tragic.  But I do think she has the best physique of all the sisters.

Kris and Corey .....well he seems to want to be there still regardless of the treatment. Are they still together? I think Kris deserves some good loving after being with "Bruce" for so many years.

Rob? He seems delayed somehow. I  just don't get his way of speaking and acting.  Chyna used him, he got a baby out of the deal which he will be paying for dearly for many years. That's what happens when you lie down with strippers Rob. 

Run Kendall! Run!!!

That said, this season I have erased 1/2 the shows off my DVR, or I start to watch, get annoyed, fast forward, and eventually delete before finishing.  I don't see how this show can be saved.