Season 19 Live Feed Discussion

[CrazyDog]

11 minutes ago, Callaphera said:

BALLS. EARRINGS. STAT.

This made me laugh so hard, on such an ugly day :)

[TimWil]

Jessica was just talking about her support from "the industry." Which one would that be? The champagne pouring industry? Please. And Cody said "We'll be admired." Uh huh. Sure.

[Lady Calypso]

1 minute ago, mooses said:

I couldn't stand Paul last season, cannot stand him x100 this season. Yes, he's playing a good game, but he's such an arrogant little jerk. From his talking to cameras, you can tell he thinks Cody is the Paulie of this season, and that Paul will be viewed as a hero for standing up to him. I don't really get it - I've seen Cody lose his temper, but never really without reason. I don't like the guy, and his views on real world situations definitely rub me the wrong way, but he doesn't come off as evil to me. Am I missing something? Is it just the mob mentality, or is he really as bad as they say he is?

Mob mentality. All Cody technically did to Paul was target him the first week. Ever since, Paul's been gunning for him and with Cody's inability to bond with many or make small talk, it's been used for Paul's advantage. Technically, besides some transphobic things Cody has said and some aggression, he's not all that bad. I can see why he is the way that he is. 

[Callaphera]

Just now, wings707 said:

You can spin just so much.  There are way too many witnesses on the feeds.  

Well, yes. But there are still people who believe Dick played a good game. The broadcast only viewers probably won't care about the difference in story because they don't know the difference. This isn't the BB15 Racism Supercut that's going to show up everywhere. 

[zorak]

Jessica says if they start messing with their things she's out.

[Brian Cronin]

My wife just reminded me that we actually know someone who used to do what Jess did when she was a young woman. It's an interesting lifestyle, to be sure. 

[Artsda]

Just now, TimWil said:

Jessica was just talking about her support from "the industry." Which one would that be? The champagne pouring industry? Please. And Cody said "We'll be admired." Uh huh. Sure.

Jess knows people, you don't have the social life she has and connections without knowing people.  Her friend called up the President of Bank of America for Jess when Jess accidentally put her ID in an ATM deposit. 

[Star Aristille]

1 minute ago, zorak said:

Jessica says if they start messing with their things she's out.

Okay.  So she's at least going to try to hold on.

2 minutes ago, TimWil said:

Jessica was just talking about her support from "the industry." Which one would that be? The champagne pouring industry? Please. And Cody said "We'll be admired." Uh huh. Sure.

They'll be more admired than Paul and his minions, if nothing else.  So I agree with him.

[Primal Slayer]

I admire them for how they handling today, if they keep it up beyond this and win HoH leading them to put up Paul I might fall in love with them.

[lunastartron]

1 minute ago, mooses said:

I've been trying not to get obsessed with the feeds this year, but that "House Meeting" was wild, and I feel like I'm missing something.

I'm not a Jess/Cody fan, but, man, the rest of the House is really trying to turn me into one. From their plan to "break" Cody, to their execution - including questioning him as a Marine - is really gross.

I couldn't stand Paul last season, cannot stand him x100 this season. Yes, he's playing a good game, but he's such an arrogant little jerk. From his talking to cameras, you can tell he thinks Cody is the Paulie of this season, and that Paul will be viewed as a hero for standing up to him. I don't really get it - I've seen Cody lose his temper, but never really without reason. I don't like the guy, and his views on real world situations definitely rub me the wrong way, but he doesn't come off as evil to me. Am I missing something? Is it just the mob mentality, or is he really as bad as they say he is?

Also, Raven is terrible. Woof, woof.

There is no "there" there.

Cody and Jess have done nothing to warrant the treatment they're garnering. Like Elissa or Jen from BB8 - who were both kind of superficial, vapid, and a little bit conceited in a casual/inoffensive callow pretty girl way - they might be vaguely unlikeable in group of normally socialized adults. 

The most egregious thing they've done is fuck up strategically (or, in Cody's case, exhibit some garden-variety redstate ignorance about certain social issues). Which, you know, actually benefits the very goons turning rabid over them. 

This has gone full on Kafka/Arthur Miller with the fantasies about Jessica sexually assaulting people, Cody impersonating an armed forces veteran, and Christmas suggesting that Cody initially tried to couple up with Raven only to be rejected. 

[mooses]

14 minutes ago, SiobhanJW said:

I am kinda eh about everyone in the house. But I do hope whomever wins HOH gets Paul out. He's the one I cannot stand the most. 

Me too! I keep thinking I like someone, and then I have to back away slowly and regret everything. Paul's plummeted to my least favorite, below Cody and Jessica (for now). Raven is down there, and Alex has made her way down there as well. 

Good on Matt for trying to stand up for himself earlier, although it didn't work - and he ended up going hardest at Christmas about it when it was Paul's idea (and Paul was told by a few people at first that that'd be too far, but he wouldn't listen).

I didn't think I'd be rooting for a Jess/Cody/Mark HOH this week - or ever - but here I am. And I'm curious what Elena would do - she's still kneeling at the altar of Paul, but she definitely likes her relationship with Jess.

Edited August 1, 2017 by mooses

[Callaphera]

Just now, lunastartron said:

This has gone full on Kafka/Arthur Miller with the fantasies about Jessica sexually assaulting people, Cody impersonating an armed forces veteran, and Christmas suggesting that Cody initially tried to couple up with Raven only to be rejected. 

Ha! Cody told this story to Jessica on the feeds, only he said Raven was after him and it was the worst three or four days of his life. (It happened the week before the feeds came on.)

Gee, I wonder who I believe out of these two...

[Katesus7]

36 minutes ago, zorak said:

I just checked Evildick's twitter and not one minute ago he tweeted that he was done with these assholes.  So take that, Paul!

As others have said, fuck Dick. He's the one that really started this bullshit. And what did it get him? His own fucking soundtrack on the show, "America's" constant support, and the win. He's a legend to people who know virtually nothing about Big Brother. So of COURSE these assholes are going to think what they're doing is cool and awesome. Of fucking COURSE Paul think Dick has his back. What Paul is too stupid to know is that Dick wants to be the only Dick, and he does not care to see anyone else try to out Dick his Dickishnes. 

[mooses]

Just now, Callaphera said:

Ha! Cody told this story to Jessica on the feeds, only he said Raven was after him and it was the worst three or four days of his life. (It happened the week before the feeds came on.)

Gee, I wonder who I believe out of these two...

The worst three or four days of his life?! Ha! The man who went to war? I shouldn't be laughing, but that's so ridiculously funny.

[Callaphera]

Just now, mooses said:

The worst three or four days of his life?! Ha! The man who went to war? I shouldn't be laughing, but that's so ridiculously funny.

I mean, it's Raven. It's possible.

[Brian Cronin]

1 minute ago, Katesus7 said:

As others have said, fuck Dick. He's the one that really started this bullshit. And what did it get him? His own fucking soundtrack on the show, "America's" constant support, and the win. He's a legend to people who know virtually nothing about Big Brother. So of COURSE these assholes are going to think what they're doing is cool and awesome. Of fucking COURSE Paul think Dick has his back. What Paul is too stupid to know is that Dick wants to be the only Dick, and he does not care to see anyone else try to out Dick his Dickishnes. 

Perfectly put. It's similar to how pissed Derrick was that Vanessa followed his season with a very similar season. 

[Lady Calypso]

1 minute ago, mooses said:

The worst three or four days of his life?! Ha! The man who went to war? I shouldn't be laughing, but that's so ridiculously funny.

Heh. Raven Walton: Worse Than War.

Better known as: Raven Warton.

[Callaphera]

Just now, Lady Calypso said:

Heh. Raven Walton: Worse Than War.

You know she followed him around the house. "Oh, you went to war? I have gastroparesis, y'all! It's the same dang thing!"

[zorak]

A few minutes ago in the kitchen Matt put his arm around Raven, pointed to the cameras, and said something to America about how Raven is a pitbull with a smile.  That's not what I would consider a compliment but they seemed to think it was.

[MrHufflepuff]

You can't blame Raven for trying.  A military bride with a fatal disease?  That's GoFundMe gold right there.

[mooses]

2 minutes ago, Callaphera said:

You know she followed him around the house. "Oh, you went to war? I have gastroparesis, y'all! It's the same dang thing!"

The other day Jessica talking to Raven about Cody and how he is the way he is partially because of the military. Whether that's true or not, Raven acted like she totally understood because...surgery.

Edited August 1, 2017 by mooses

[Christi]

what started this today?

[Growsonwalls]

The sad thing is all of these people will shun Josh the minute the game is over. They'll ignore him by the wrap party/Vegas trip. and he's foaming at the mouth at Jody not because Jody put him up (which is valid) BUT BECAUSE PAUL TOLD HIM TO ATTACK JODY. That is sad.

[lunastartron]

Can someone provide a refresher on BB15? I know that there was some minor fallout from that season for a lot of the participants but it seems like editing really tried to pin the most offensive conduct almost entirely upon Aaryn while whitewashing the actions of the rest of the cast. 

Did Julie ask Spencer about his child pornography jokes? No, right, because he was eliminated on the finale?

Likewise, I remember Amanda getting done a huge favor by production on the broadcast when they situated her as a sjw who scolded the racist blondes for their bigotry even though she was insinuating that she was afraid of the only black guy in the house and later led the charge against Elissa.

Wasnt there even some pro-Andy spin because Aaryn had called him a slur behind his back even though he was usually bolstering the attacks she and Amanda alternately lead?

[Callaphera]

Just now, Christi said:

what started this today?

At the Veto ceremony, after Paul had used the Veto on Jason, Jessica saw Raven talking to Jason. They both said they were talking about how the Veto necklace was cut from a piece of metal rather than shaped and Jason wiggled his fingers in a motion to talk about where they cut it. Jessica thought that Raven and Jason were pointing at Jessica and Cody and they were shit talking them.

And from there, it devolved into chaos.

[Lady Calypso]

Good thing it seems like the house doesn't know about Cody's daughter, or else they would constantly use her name as a mental warfare tactic ("don't you want to make your daughter PROUD?") and then Cody would murder all of them, win the show by default and then go to jail with the money going to Paisley.

[Primal Slayer]

The fact that they are this pissed because they aren't guaranteed Jury now makes me laugh so hard.

[Wings]

2 minutes ago, Christi said:

what started this today?

Paul.   LOL  No good reason other than air time. 

[gunderda]

Christmas needs to get over herself. She's pissed because Cody cost jessica $500k and everyone else a spot on the jury. Like he's just suooose to give up and go home? BOO FUCKING HOO christmas. You suck. 

Edited August 1, 2017 by gunderda

[wait.what]

I only follow here. Has anyone looked at other BB boards/forums? 

Does everyone else hate Paul, Josh and Alex? Or do they have a weird following?

It would be terrible to have this behavior validated by some rabid fans. 

I so hope that when this is over, they all feel like the idiots they are. 

But even Ted Bundy had fans. 

[zorak]

Just now, Callaphera said:

At the Veto ceremony, after Paul had used the Veto on Jason, Jessica saw Raven talking to Jason. They both said they were talking about how the Veto necklace was cut from a piece of metal rather than shaped and Jason wiggled his fingers in a motion to talk about where they cut it. Jessica thought that Raven and Jason were pointing at Jessica and Cody and they were shit talking them.

And from there, it devolved into chaos.

And Jessica was not wrong about what was really going on there.  Jason admitted to Alex that they were talking about Jessica and that Jason motioned to stop talking because he saw her coming in the mirror.

[Christi]

wow...jeeebus thanks Calla

what a nuthouse

[gunderda]

Kevin told her to stop. She says she's not stopping. She will keep them up all night with Paul. She can't compete in a physical comp so she doesn't need to rest either. 

[Artsda]

I guess none of the mindless sheep blamed the person actually responsible for nobody going home this week? Paul was warned about the hex and STILL wanted to call their bluff. 

[gunderda]

Christmas called to the DR now. 

[Growsonwalls]

Xmas, Raven and Alex are those uniquely unlikable people who work themselves into a lather and it's not even about them.

But somehow I hate Kevin the most. Father of 7 kids and he doesn't get uncomfortable at this?

[gunderda]

Paul was definitely told to knock stuff off and to quit trying to get them to quit  but he did he doesn't have to quit the crap talking  

josh said he was told to stop. 

[mooses]

Do these people honestly, in their heart of hearts, think that it's really good for Jessica to send Cody home? She has one person she can absolutely trust - and he also happens to be pretty good at competitions. There's no way they'd back off of her after he left. They already agreed to lie to her about the deal to get out Alex. She's kind of screwed either way. It's silly they all keep telling each other how dumb she'd be to use the Hex. She was stupid for nominating Ramses, stupid for not taking part in the Temptation Competition, but using the Hex makes sense. She has nothing to lose.

[gunderda]

They put a bunch of stuff on jodys bed. They all just took it off. Dirty Pots and pans and stuff. 

[Primal Slayer]

Lol they totally told Paul to calm his shit down. Now it's all "we're being funny, we wont stoop to their level"

[mooses]

Guessing they told Paul that this whole thing isn't a good look. He called a huddle and told them to cool it for now and stop with the personal stuff. They got their point across.

[Christi]

so now Elena and Mark are bullying too??

[gunderda]

Paul says they will not stoop down to "their level" 

but the will continue to put Vaseline all over stuff. 

 

Paul now says he's going to act like they don't exist. They don't want to screw up the game. Megan leaving screwed up the game. 

[Growsonwalls]

Did Paul really just order his minions "no empathy"? Someone told me that if anyone says that to run from that person. No one should EVER be preaching "no empathy." A dog has empathy. A horse has empathy. A chimpanzee has empathy.

[TimWil]

23 minutes ago, Artsda said:

Jess knows people, you don't have the social life she has and connections without knowing people.  Her friend called up the President of Bank of America for Jess when Jess accidentally put her ID in an ATM deposit. 

My point was that her job is that of a "champagne pourer." That's it. "The industry" in LA is usually a reference to the entertainment industry. I doubt Jessica has many connections to that beyond pouring champagne for La La Land movers and shakers.

I'm not a fan of the gang mentality of Paul and the others but I'm finding all this canonization of Cody and Jessica to be a bit much. Cody's a scumbag. I've liked Jessica at times, she's nobody's fool although she's been extremely foolish to fall into a showmance with Cody. It's proven to be fatal to her game.

Edited August 1, 2017 by TimWil

[Star Aristille]

19 hours ago, gunderda said:

Paul was definitely told to knock stuff off and to quit trying to get them to quit  but he did he doesn't have to quit the crap talking  

josh said he was told to stop. 

Sigh.  I miss the show when Shapiro was in charge.  Back in BB6, he did not run a ship where things were that loose.  He was very tight in terms of how far he let fights get -- not far at all.  I remember him stopping Eric (Cappy) and Michael's fight, for example, just when it started and sent them to different rooms.  And not that long later, he (or someone in production) stopped one that erupted between Kaysar and Ivette and also sent them to different rooms.

I wish Grodner would've at least adopted that way of running the show.  Shapiro must be ashamed of what she's done with his show.

Edited August 1, 2017 by Star Aristille

[zorak]

Paul says he's now going to walk around and act like Jessica and Cody don't exist.  He says that will drive them crazy to be in a house with everyone ignoring them.  I think Cody and Jess would welcome it to be honest.

[Katesus7]

Of course they don't think it's a good idea for her to boot Cody. They just wanted to screw her over, and it didn't work. She didn't believe Paul's lies AGAIN. And now one of them might not make that $8k jury money, so she is a selfish, awful, evil bitch. Because...of course. 

[Wings]

1 minute ago, gunderda said:

Paul says they will not stoop down to "their level" 

but the will continue to put Vaseline all over stuff. 

 

Paul now says he's going to act like they don't exist. They don't want to screw up the game. Megan leaving screwed up the game. 

A little late for that strategy.  I don't think they will leave though.  

[Callaphera]

1 minute ago, mooses said:

Guessing they told Paul that this whole thing isn't a good look. He called a huddle and told them to cool it for now and stop with the personal stuff. They got their point across.

Paul was told in the DR that they can't incite anyone or push someone to DOR. But I'm guessing everything else is considered fair game for the sake of "good television".

 

2 minutes ago, PoshSprinkles said:

Sucks hates everyone we hate, but especially hate Paul and Raven. Some are fans of Jody, but not all. They liked Kevin until he joined in on this harass jody plan. 

Jokers has a few rabid Paul fans, but most hate him and Christmas and Raven. They like Kevin and Jason. 

And reddit hates whoever the wind is blowing towards at the moment.