S09.E07: Bidding on Love

[Leroux]

Thanks for that link about Ramona and Tipsy Girl. 

IMO Bethenny has been able to move on about this issue with Sonya because deep down she understands/believes that Sonya is not a business person and was taken advantage of by this guy/partner. Sonya is desperate for money due to her situation and would do about anything for it. It was upsetting but IMO Bethenny probably knows that Sonya will never be the mastermind of anything.

Ramona is a whole different story. Ramona is business savvy, she knew this guy was trying to ride on Skinny girl cocktails because it is an obvious rip off. Ramona didn't care, she was willing to do it and was even hurrying the guy to get it ASAP so she can put it on RHNY as much s possible. But she tried to play it cool and like she never had anything to do with it. Furthermore she played on season 8 like this guy (Peter?) approached her first but her ethical principles stopped her from accepting the offer because she knew he was trouble. She even preached hard to Sonya about how she shouldn't have accepted this and how right Bethenny was to be upset with her , but in the meantime she never disclosed that she was willing to do it first. 

[teapot]

On ‎5‎/‎20‎/‎2017 at 5:40 AM, LIMOM said:

My SIL, who is an incredible/petty Manhattanite snob tolerates Brooklyn (some area) but would rather die and/or live in a shoe box than entertaining living in Queens...

boy-child lives in Hoboken, NJ (just like the Manzos!  ha!) and takes the Path into Manhattan for work every day.  he lives with three roommates & his rent's crazy high as it is.  Hoboken's really nice, it's on the water.  The only problem is that the *only* hotel is a W, and Mister & I are not very parking-savvy, so we suck it up & stay there when we visit.

Boy-child & his friends mostly just hang in Hoboken on the weekends, he says there are good neighborhood bars & the city is just really expensive & time-consuming to trek to.  He's 26 so of course his needs are different, but it's interesting to talk to him about that stuff.

[Martinigirl]

Barbra Kavovit is besties with Mob Wives star Carla. I can see why Carole gushed over Babs so much in her Bravo blog. I would have done the same.  

[motorcitymom65]

1 hour ago, Leroux said:

Thanks for that link about Ramona and Tipsy Girl. 

IMO Bethenny has been able to move on about this issue with Sonya because deep down she understands/believes that Sonya is not a business person and was taken advantage of by this guy/partner. Sonya is desperate for money due to her situation and would do about anything for it. It was upsetting but IMO Bethenny probably knows that Sonya will never be the mastermind of anything.

Ramona is a whole different story. Ramona is business savvy, she knew this guy was trying to ride on Skinny girl cocktails because it is an obvious rip off. Ramona didn't care, she was willing to do it and was even hurrying the guy to get it ASAP so she can put it on RHNY as much s possible. But she tried to play it cool and like she never had anything to do with it. Furthermore she played on season 8 like this guy (Peter?) approached her first but her ethical principles stopped her from accepting the offer because she knew he was trouble. She even preached hard to Sonya about how she shouldn't have accepted this and how right Bethenny was to be upset with her , but in the meantime she never disclosed that she was willing to do it first. 

Exactly. Well said. 

[ZaldamoWilder]

On 5/20/2017 at 3:13 PM, film noire said:

I agree  - it's clear if you flip it into a reverse case - if John had the wherewithal to buy and live in (say) Lauren Bacall's former apartment in the Dakota, I think the housewives would start finding his repulsive self far more charming. 

Nodding.   It might not be the Dakota, but the guy has a net worth in the millions.  Maybe part of their issue is that he can afford to live in the city and chooses not to.  Which, quelle horreur.

On 5/20/2017 at 3:24 PM, Trooper York said:

An example to fathers everywhere. Not when he wore red leather pants.

LMAO!!!!!

 

I wanna like John too.  I don't exactly dislike him.  It's just.  He sucks at reading the room.  The squirting orgasm thing is a perfect example.  I hate to sound all flotus following the pussy grabbing tape, but it is how men talk when they're alone, but you still need the sort of rapport and camaraderie with the men in question for it to be appreciated.  The problem wasn't even that he said it with women present, there ain't a delicate flower in this crew, but damn dawg, time and a place.  Later when everybody's three sheets to the wind and the lights are low, ok bring out your porn humor, if you must.    And because I can't emphasize this enough, he is too physically familiar with women he doesn't know well, or at all.   The idea that you can behave with a woman the way your woman/her friend interacts with her is hella bizarre.  At best we're talking about a tangential relationship.    I attended a college friend's wedding.   My college roommate and her sister (and her sister's husband) were also in attendance.   I knew these people well of course, they'd been to our place many times over the years.  Similarly, I'd been to their home.   I'm standing in the reception hall looking for our table and my roommate's brother in law comes up behind me and fixes the shoulder strap on my dress.   It wasn't like a spaghetti loop you just pick up, he hooked his thumb under and pulled it into place over my bra strap.  Not assault, not a violation, didn't even make contact with my skin.  But, inafuckingpropriate.  That's really the only reason I can't with John.  I was about to say plenty of men are crass, but cancel that.  I just remembered that he's almost 50 and unhesitatingly used the word moist to entertain. 

On 5/20/2017 at 3:24 PM, Trooper York said:

I will give you an example. I never cared for Mario. But it has been stated over and over that he was the one that took care of Avery. Got her off to school. Looked after her while Ramona slept. Or Simon who I know was a devoted Dad who was always doing stuff with his kids. An example to fathers everywhere. Not when he wore red leather pants. But he is a role model when he took his kids to park to kick around the soccer ball on a Saturday morning even though he was hung over. Look I don't expect them to feature positive things about the men. I don't expect that it will show up every episode. I don't expect any degree of fairness, context or objectivity. It is just that positive thing never happen. Ever.

But then, how would we know about any examples if not from scenes shown?   I dunno, I think Bobby, Jonathan and Reid were shown to be extremely supportive.  I remember seeing Simon cook breakfast in their brownstone and Jonathan listen to Heather's fears about their son's condition.  I think I may even be remembering seeing Mario walk Avery down the street as she walked their dog (?)  Anyway I think I know what you're saying but I'd be a little miffed if the men got kadooz or any special acknowledgment for doing stuff their wives also did everyday without mention.   Maybe Bravo's challenge might be that as nice as it would be (should be) to see them in a positive light, it's not a ratings grabber, nor mutually exclusive.  Some of the same men are great dads and awful husbands. 

[LIMOM]

1 hour ago, Leroux said:

Thanks for that link about Ramona and Tipsy Girl. 

IMO Bethenny has been able to move on about this issue with Sonya because deep down she understands/believes that Sonya is not a business person and was taken advantage of by this guy/partner. Sonya is desperate for money due to her situation and would do about anything for it. It was upsetting but IMO Bethenny probably knows that Sonya will never be the mastermind of anything.

Ramona is a whole different story. Ramona is business savvy, she knew this guy was trying to ride on Skinny girl cocktails because it is an obvious rip off. Ramona didn't care, she was willing to do it and was even hurrying the guy to get it ASAP so she can put it on RHNY as much s possible. But she tried to play it cool and like she never had anything to do with it. Furthermore she played on season 8 like this guy (Peter?) approached her first but her ethical principles stopped her from accepting the offer because she knew he was trouble. She even preached hard to Sonya about how she shouldn't have accepted this and how right Bethenny was to be upset with her , but in the meantime she never disclosed that she was willing to do it first. 

It is going to be really interesting to see an uneducated self proclaimed business entrepreneur deal with the big dogs....

Mark Cuban, Mr Wonderful and Barbara do not have patience for bullshit and I am here for the takedown....

I will bet that it will be a six parts engagement.

I have to give Bethany her dues.  She hired an incredible agent but of course she always had a knack for utilizing talent or as some of her childhood friends say "using" people.

[oakville]

11 hours ago, breezy424 said:

The problem with this franchise as can be seen on this episode, is that this is no longer 'Real Housewives'.  It's become about the single ladies.  And now we have a 'new housewife' who is another single lady looking for love.  I really don't want the emphasis on this.  I have no problem with any 'housewife' being in the business world but I'm not interested in it all being about being single.   

Yeah, I get that Ro and Lu weren't planning on getting divorced.  But at the same time, they brought in single Carole, single Sonja, single Tinsley, single Dorinda, and double single Beth.   

They tried bringing in married Jules, but she was overwhelmed by Bethenny & Carole's attacks on her weight . They accused her of having an eating disorder & complained about the renovations to her home in the Hamptons.

Kristen was married with young kids & she was very nice. She had to leave the show due to her husband's involvement with Ashley Madison.

17 hours ago, BBHN said:

Alexis was pretty before she got the work done.

Why watch something that would leave a bad taste in one's mouth? I still enjoy this show, even with all the faults the women have. I do enjoy watching them all, even Luann. If anything, this is probably the only HW show where I don't actively hate at least one of the HWs.

I really dislike Bethenny.

[Leroux]

29 minutes ago, LIMOM said:

It is going to be really interesting to see an uneducated self proclaimed business entrepreneur deal with the big dogs....

Mark Cuban, Mr Wonderful and Barbara do not have patience for bullshit and I am here for the takedown....

I will bet that it will be a six parts engagement.

I have to give Bethany her dues.  She hired an incredible agent but of course she always had a knack for utilizing talent or as some of her childhood friends say "using" people.

 

If I was Bethenny I would be extremely honored just to even be invited to be there. She is an invited guest and not part of the regular crew anyway. 

Shark Tank and its name mentions if full of sharks, just like the real business world. Your special circumstances and real life tragedies do not matter to these judges, they are there just to judge the availability of a product. Bethenny will be a though judge but that is the nature of this show so I think she will fit right in. JMO

[LIMOM]

6 minutes ago, Leroux said:

 

If I was Bethenny I would be extremely honored just to even be invited to be there. She is an invited guest and not part of the regular crew anyway. 

Shark Tank and its name mentions if full of sharks, just like the real business world. Your special circumstances and real life tragedies do not matter to these judges, they are there just to judge the availability of a product. Bethenny will be a though judge but that is the nature of this show so I think she will fit right in. JMO

We shall see.

She went into a women's conference and suggested sleeping our way to the top..

I can't wait for her insights.lol

http://pagesix.com/2016/04/14/did-bethenny-frankel-advise-women-sleep-their-way-to-the-top/

Edited May 22, 2017 by LIMOM
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[KungFuBunny]

http://barentsnova.com/celebrity-news/luann-de-lesseps-friend-barbaras-photos-from-tom-dagostino-wedding-weekend/295

 

Poor Luanne, I wonder if she still speaks with asshole friend Barbara.

I still don't agree with Carole - this is not the type of friend I'd want.

[Leroux]

10 minutes ago, LIMOM said:

We shall see.

She went into a women's conference and suggested sleeping our way to the top..

I can't wait for her insights.lol

http://pagesix.com/2016/04/14/did-bethenny-frankel-advise-women-sleep-their-way-to-the-top/

Funny because this article also has  Bethenny saying it never happened and the "offended lady" has not shown any evidence of it. 

"“The only problem is [that] none of this happened. Never let the truth get in the way of trying to get attention.” And, “Funny how in a room of hundreds of people & phones no one has me saying it." 

Just like any fake news, you can find any kind of article in either direction if you look carefully.  

We like in a world were the "I am offended by......" has almost because the cool and hipster way to be. People go out of their ways looking for reasons to be offended. 

In my case I only get offended by other people pretending to get offended, but that is just me.  

[LIMOM]

2 minutes ago, Leroux said:

Funny because this article also has  Bethenny saying it never happened and the "offended lady" has not shown any evidence of it. 

"“The only problem is [that] none of this happened. Never let the truth get in the way of trying to get attention.” And, “Funny how in a room of hundreds of people & phones no one has me saying it." 

Just like any fake news, you can find any kind of article in either direction if you look carefully.  

We like in a world were the "I am offended by......" has almost because the cool and hipster way to be. People go out of their ways looking for reasons to be offended. 

In my case I only get offended by other people pretending to get offended, but that is just me.  

the problem for Beth is that there were many reports stating the same things...

Like Dr Phil says, look for past behaviors to get an idea of futur behaviors....

There are no amount of media training that can change Bethaney.

She is who she is...

[Martinigirl]

27 minutes ago, KungFuBunny said:

http://barentsnova.com/celebrity-news/luann-de-lesseps-friend-barbaras-photos-from-tom-dagostino-wedding-weekend/295

 

Poor Luanne, I wonder if she still speaks with asshole friend Barbara.

I still don't agree with Carole - this is not the type of friend I'd want.

Barbara seems a bit rough around the edges.  Maybe she is looking for a HW spot? lololol

[Leroux]

39 minutes ago, KungFuBunny said:

http://barentsnova.com/celebrity-news/luann-de-lesseps-friend-barbaras-photos-from-tom-dagostino-wedding-weekend/295

 

Poor Luanne, I wonder if she still speaks with asshole friend Barbara.

I still don't agree with Carole - this is not the type of friend I'd want.

There is a problem with this logic and that why the saying about killing the messenger exists. 

What are these women suppose to do? No matter what they do, nothing good will come out of it. It never does. 

I had a neighbor who was one of my dear friends, she had a younger sister who was dating a guy who everybody knew was a player, he promised he had changed his ways out of love for her and so they got engaged. My bad luck would have me attend a party where this guy also attended. He showed up there with another girl and they were making out all the time. I pulled him aside and told him that I would have to tell his girlfriend out of loyalty for my friend. I gave him a couple of days to do it and told him "If you don't tell her I will"  The bastard used those couple of days to convince his girlfriend that I have tried to hit on him and he had rejected me and that now I was scorned and will come to her with lies. 

This girl has known me for years , even though we were never close friends we were friendly, she believed him.  I told my dear friend what exactly happened and she believed me but her sister would hear no reason and went through with the marriage. Couple of years later and with divorce proceedings going on my friend's sister approached me and asked me why I never told her what happened, that I could had prevented her getting married. I was baffled. My friend told her "I told you exactly what happened" but she didn't want to hear, she didn't want to believe, she was not ready for it. No matter what I did it was not going to work. 

I feel sorry for this girl as she was truly in love and was a fool. I do not feel sorry for Luann because she is an experienced woman who knows exactly what is going on and is going into this marriage with her eyes open. 

Edited May 22, 2017 by Leroux

[Leroux]

10 minutes ago, LIMOM said:

the problem for Beth is that there were many reports stating the same things...

Like Dr Phil says, look for past behaviors to get an idea of futur behaviors....

There are no amount of media training that can change Bethaney.

She is who she is...

 

No, there are many reports citing this "offended lady" tweet about the issue. Still doesn't mean it happened. 

Not one verified report of anybody else being offended or hearing it, walking out of the event or complaining about it. 

In this time of social media, the fact that not on person taped, recorded, or showed when she said this is almost impossible. 

There are many other things to bash Bethenny for, but this one I am certain is just fake news. 

Bethenny is who she is, I don't think she is trying to change anything about her, last year she was in a bad place and it showed but she has always been obnoxious, hyper, OCD, fast speaking, self deprecating and goal driven. It has worked for her so I am not sure why she would want to change it at this point of her life. She is not your friendly, cuddly, soft spoken HW and that is okay with me. 

[Martinigirl]

Agree! What you see is what you get. And she will tell it to your face. 

[crgirl412]

On 5/20/2017 at 6:36 PM, ryebread said:

This is exactly the vibe I get from him.  John is the guy that will never let you leave his table hungry. He'll ask you what you want to eat and make sure you get the best. He'll get you something to wear if you're cold and is generous with his time and money. He'll bail you out or come running in the middle of the night if you drop a glass of cab on your carpet. 

To keep me under his spell, however, he needs to not be drunk on my TV.  

And never, ever, ever again utter the word, 'moist'. 

Those are his Queens values showing through!!  In my Northeast city we have neighborhoods that are looked down upon but the very BEST people come from there!!  My poor, with-a-heart-of-gold Scots-Irish relatives included!!  It's the typical American story of being poor in a faraway land often the lowest in that society and they escape it by coming to America and making something of themselves.  John and his family have done exceedingly well and have a lot of money but those old-school values shared by many in his beloved Queens are still there.  

All that being said, I do agree that John can't read a room and is too familiar with women he doesn't know or does know.   

Edited May 22, 2017 by crgirl412
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[BBHN]

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They tried bringing in married Jules, but she was overwhelmed by Bethenny & Carole's attacks on her weight

Her marriage imploding halfway through the season probably overwhelmed her even more...

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Barbara seems a bit rough around the edges.  Maybe she is looking for a HW spot? lololol

Maybe she and Tinsley's friend with doggie car thought they were auditioning?

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Some of the same men are great dads and awful husbands. 

Exactly.

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I wanna like John too.  I don't exactly dislike him.  It's just.  He sucks at reading the room.

It's like a foreign language to him.

[AnnaL]

3 hours ago, Leroux said:

Thanks for that link about Ramona and Tipsy Girl. 

IMO Bethenny has been able to move on about this issue with Sonya because deep down she understands/believes that Sonya is not a business person and was taken advantage of by this guy/partner. Sonya is desperate for money due to her situation and would do about anything for it. It was upsetting but IMO Bethenny probably knows that Sonya will never be the mastermind of anything.

Ramona is a whole different story. Ramona is business savvy, she knew this guy was trying to ride on Skinny girl cocktails because it is an obvious rip off. Ramona didn't care, she was willing to do it and was even hurrying the guy to get it ASAP so she can put it on RHNY as much s possible. But she tried to play it cool and like she never had anything to do with it. Furthermore she played on season 8 like this guy (Peter?) approached her first but her ethical principles stopped her from accepting the offer because she knew he was trouble. She even preached hard to Sonya about how she shouldn't have accepted this and how right Bethenny was to be upset with her , but in the meantime she never disclosed that she was willing to do it first. 

 

I LOL when I saw that screenshot. Oh Ramona, never change , LOL . Motorcitymom, great catch!!! 

So the information is super revealing.

1.During the season where Ramona introduces her Pinot Grigio, all she did was slap the label on some bottles, the product didn't even exist?

2. She wanted some cases of the Tipsy Girl to introduce them at Bethenny's party? I was LMAO on this one. Boy, one thing Ramona has is balls, that would have been a scene worthy of a Bravo show. I wonder if it would have gotten physical. If I was Bethenny, I would have dragged her by the hair out of my event.

3. She is giving that slimy guy Peter all kinds of advice and strategies and she hasn't even sign a contract yet? Wrong move Ramona. 

It seems to me like a desperate move on Ramona's part, she already had the connections due to her own product, why didn't she just expand on her own liquor line? She is almost chasing and begging this guy to be the face of Tipsy Girl, why? This makes me wonder how successful her Pinot Grigio really was, I though it did pretty well but now I wonder.

Does her product even exist anymore? I have seen Ramona drinking a lot of wine this season, before it was always her product. 

Edited May 22, 2017 by AnnaL

[KungFuBunny]

50 minutes ago, Martinigirl said:

Barbara seems a bit rough around the edges.  Maybe she is looking for a HW spot? lololol

I'm hoping that Barbara's audition tape is leaked.

I do think Luann is going to be "punished" next season by being demoted to "friend of".

Bring Barbara on as a "friend of" and then we'll see the sparks fly

[LIMOM]

37 minutes ago, Leroux said:

 

No, there are many reports citing this "offended lady" tweet about the issue. Still doesn't mean it happened. 

Not one verified report of anybody else being offended or hearing it, walking out of the event or complaining about it. 

In this time of social media, the fact that not on person taped, recorded, or showed when she said this is almost impossible. 

There are many other things to bash Bethenny for, but this one I am certain is just fake news. 

Bethenny is who she is, I don't think she is trying to change anything about her, last year she was in a bad place and it showed but she has always been obnoxious, hyper, OCD, fast speaking, self deprecating and goal driven. It has worked for her so I am not sure why she would want to change it at this point of her life. She is not your friendly, cuddly, soft spoken HW and that is okay with me. 

As the Fox show debacle demonstrated, she is too abrasive for some crowds.

IMO, if her agent/publicist has an in with Celebrity Apprentice, it would be a great fit for her.

It would a compelling storyline and Bethaney is not only associated with the show but one of the most succcesful alumni.

"FAKE NEWS"?

We really are in the Age of the Apprentice, in so many ways.

[Martinigirl]

3 minutes ago, KungFuBunny said:

I'm hoping that Barbara's audition tape is leaked.

I do think Luann is going to be "punished" next season by being demoted to "friend of".

Bring Barbara on as a "friend of" and then we'll see the sparks fly

I think the same. LuAnn is always leaving the events early to meet Tom. Code for - catching Tom at the Regency.

LOL @ Babs audition tape.

Edited May 22, 2017 by Martinigirl

[LIMOM]

1 minute ago, Martinigirl said:

I think the same. LuAnn is always leaving the events early to meet Tom. Code for - catching Tom at the Regency.

Either that or she is looking for her own fresh meat.

[ZaldamoWilder]

3 minutes ago, Martinigirl said:

I think the same. LuAnn is always leaving the events early to meet Tom. Code for - catching Tom at the Regency.

LOL @ Babs audition tape.

Well now, yawl have taught me this phrase but:  if you marry for money, you'll earn every penny.     That's far more unkind than I actually mean to be to Luann.  I do think distrust is a shitty way to spend till death do us part.

@Leroux - your neighbor's sister is fascinating to me for some reason lol.  Did she not remember that ya'll had had the conversation?  When you reminded her what did she say??  girl that canNOT be how this story ends!

[Martinigirl]

I want to know what Barbara got Lu and Tom for their wedding present.

[KungFuBunny]

For LIMOM - Throwback Monday

This week Ramona gave Tinsley the Straw Sip and Stink Eye Move.

For this coming week's episode, I want Ramona to give Tinsley advice on how to dance without any discernible rhythm

[AnnaL]

1 minute ago, LIMOM said:

Either that or she is looking for her own fresh meat.

I would love that!!!

Here we are speculating about cheating Tom/poor Luann and we keep forgetting that Luann has her own history of sex escapades and loyalty is not one of her virtues either (Jacques Vs the pirates) 

It would serve Tom well, a pirate type of scenario where Luann is on the prowl again and Tom deals with the aftermath of that. 

Nahhh.... Luann is very smart, she has learned her lesson and wouldn't disrespect her husband by being sloppy and getting caught, at least I hope not. Hope Tom returns the favor too. 

[ZaldamoWilder]

2 minutes ago, KungFuBunny said:

For LIMOM - Throwback Monday

This week Ramona gave Tinsley the Straw Sip and Stink Eye Move.

For this coming week's episode, I want Ramona to give Tinsley advice on how to dance without any discernible rhythm

oh gawd.

@Trooper York.   You ain't even gotta say nothin bruh.

[KungFuBunny]

3 minutes ago, Martinigirl said:

I want to know what Barbara got Lu and Tom for their wedding present.

Ramona never got an invite. She was going to give them a nice Backgammon Set

[Martinigirl]

4 minutes ago, KungFuBunny said:

For LIMOM - Throwback Monday

This week Ramona gave Tinsley the Straw Sip and Stink Eye Move.

For this coming week's episode, I want Ramona to give Tinsley advice on how to dance without any discernible rhythm

I still want to know what the bartender dd to the limes before he carefully placed them in Ramona's drink. 

[BBHN]

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Code for - catching Tom at the Regency.

Maybe she'll just inject some type of GPR tracker into him while he is asleep...

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It would serve Tom well, a pirate type of scenario where Luann is on the prowl again and Tom deals with the aftermath of that. 

Or, if he's smart, get a pirate costume for himself and Luann for some cosplay...

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oh gawd.

No amount of editing in the world can save that.

[ZaldamoWilder]

3 minutes ago, BBHN said:

Maybe she'll just inject some type of GPR tracker into him while he is asleep...

Real talk, she can put it on his phone as a dormant app.  Um, I've heard.   I'd be much more interested in the nature of his conversations than where he went. 

5 minutes ago, BBHN said:

No amount of editing in the world can save that.

Simon lives with no regrets babe.  You know how hard it is to execute an Elaine Benes?    Don't hate.

[BBHN]

Oh I meant saving Ramona, not Simon. I'm sure Simon is at least kicking to the beat of the song. Ramona? I have a feeling a completely different song is playing in her head...

[ZaldamoWilder]

3 minutes ago, BBHN said:

Oh I meant saving Ramona, not Simon. I'm sure Simon is at least kicking to the beat of the song. Ramona? I have a feeling a completely different song is playing in her head...

Lmao!  Tuh! She don't need no stinkin myu-sick.  Pool noodle and a few pinots.

[Leroux]

9 minutes ago, ZaldamoWilder said:

LEROUX- your neighbor's sister is fascinating to me for some reason lol.  Did she not remember that ya'll had had the conversation?  When you reminded her what did she say??  girl that canNOT be how this story ends!

I actually never had the conversation with the sister, just with my friend. 

I gave this creep two days to tell her (sister) that he was cheating on her, instead of doing that he badmouthed me. My friend heard through her sister that I was trying to hit on him so she came and asked me about it, that is how I found out that he was flipping the story on me. 

I spoke to my friend and told her what really happened and she told her sister, but her sister was too blind to accept that and believed her BF and married him. She lated divorced him because one of his mistress got pregnant and made a scene at his job (where she also works) 

I am glad that my friend knew me enough to know there was more to the story he was telling and came and asked me directly. She got tons of shit from her family though, they wanted her to stop being my friend and her sister basically told her she had to stay away from me. I understood why she had to stay away, she still would go out and would meet away from the neighborhood. 

When the sister (after divorce) asked me why I never told her directly it surprised me because I knew my friend told her, the sister said that it would had been different if I told her directly but I know it wouldn't had been, she would had believed him no matter what, wedding plans were on its way and she wanted the wedding and the fairy tale. 

Like I said the sister and I were friendly but not close so we are back to that, my friend and I are still good friends and will continue to be, this guy was just a hiccup that should have never happened. If any of my friends/ family/ acquaintances would ever see my hubby with another woman, I would want them to tell me. I would be devastated but it would hurt more if I found out that somebody knew and never told me and let me be the fool.

Other women like to be oblivious and enjoy a false sense of security, not me. I like to have my feet on the ground.  

[ZaldamoWilder]

3 minutes ago, Leroux said:

She got tons of shit from her family though, they wanted her to stop being my friend and her sister basically told her she had to stay away from me. I understood why she had to stay away

Thanks for telling that.  Denial is a muffucah.  You're a good person Charlie Brown.  My friend's sister could kiss my grits for all eternity. 

8 minutes ago, Leroux said:

Other women like to be oblivious and enjoy a false sense of security, not me. I like to have my feet on the ground.  

Seguing back to the show ;) oddly I think that's part of our argument about Lu.  She's got her feet on the ground and eyes open so back it up bitches!  Great if she does, but if so, there's really no reason to be tempted to kill the messenger(s).

[LIMOM]

21 minutes ago, ZaldamoWilder said:

Thanks for telling that.  Denial is a muffucah.  You're a good person Charlie Brown.  My friend's sister could kiss my grits for all eternity. 

Seguing back to the show ;) oddly I think that's part of our argument about Lu.  She's got her feet on the ground and eyes open so back it up bitches!  Great if she does, but if so, there's really no reason to be tempted to kill the messenger(s).

Appearances, Darling. It is all about appearances. And a marvelous penthouse in NYC.

[ghoulina]

On 5/19/2017 at 8:13 PM, Martinigirl said:

Did you catch the way John greeted Tinsley at the event?.........."Hey, baby".  He's creepy!

He's very creepy. It has nothing to do with where he lives or his weight. Aviva's dad came from a much different area of NY and wasn't fat - still fucking creepy. John seems nice sometimes, but then he always takes it too far. The comments. The invasion of personal space. No thanks. 

[KungFuBunny]

1 hour ago, BBHN said:

Oh I meant saving Ramona, not Simon. I'm sure Simon is at least kicking to the beat of the song. Ramona? I have a feeling a completely different song is playing in her head...

Hey, It's Turtle Time.

Ramona speaks turtle

[Martinigirl]

4 minutes ago, ghoulina said:

He's very creepy. It has nothing to do with where he lives or his weight. Aviva's dad came from a much different area of NY and wasn't fat - still fucking creepy. John seems nice sometimes, but then he always takes it too far. The comments. The invasion of personal space. No thanks. 

John always wants/asks for a photo of the girls on each side of him kissing his sweaty mug. He's just so ewwwwwwwwww

[BBHN]

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Ramona speaks turtle

Ramona thinks turtle.

[ghoulina]

5 minutes ago, KungFuBunny said:

Hey, It's Turtle Time.

Ramona speaks turtle

Crazy as she was back then - what a cuter Ramona! What happened to her? Sigh....

[Leroux]

2 hours ago, AnnaL said:

 

Does her product even exist anymore? I have seen Ramona drinking a lot of wine this season, before it was always her product. 

I went to Ramona's website and clicked on her Pinot Grigio link to buy a bottle and this is what came up 

http://www.vintagegrape.net/sku094523.html 

"Thank you for shopping at Vintage Grape, unfortunately we are unable to locate the product you are purchasing. The item may have recently sold out and gone out-of-stock, or it's possible that the web address of the item may have changed. You can use the keyword search box to confirm if the item is not currently available. If you have any questions, you can send us a message at service@vintagegrape.net. " 

Not sure if she is selling it anywhere else but this came from her own website http://ramonasinger.com/pinot-grigio/ 

[KungFuBunny]

9 minutes ago, ghoulina said:

He's very creepy. It has nothing to do with where he lives or his weight. Aviva's dad came from a much different area of NY and wasn't fat - still fucking creepy. John seems nice sometimes, but then he always takes it too far. The comments. The invasion of personal space. No thanks. 

Last year at the reunion Dorinda yelled at Carole for calling John a pig.

Carole said I never called him a pig.

Andy confirmed and Dorinda said yes she did by insisting he wanted an apple in her blog

Andy, Carole, & Co laughed - the NY franchise women hold apples.

Dorinda - oh I thought she was saying he was a pig with an apple in its mouth.

Oh Dorinda, if it helps I think he is a disgusting pig

[WireWrap]

26 minutes ago, KungFuBunny said:

Last year at the reunion Dorinda yelled at Carole for calling John a pig.

Carole said I never called him a pig.

Andy confirmed and Dorinda said yes she did by insisting he wanted an apple in her blog

Andy, Carole, & Co laughed - the NY franchise women hold apples.

Dorinda - oh I thought she was saying he was a pig with an apple in its mouth.

Oh Dorinda, if it helps I think he is a disgusting pig

Nahhh, George was/is a disgusting pig, not John. John doesn't even rise to the level of pig in training, that title belongs to Harry. LOL

[LIMOM]

43 minutes ago, KungFuBunny said:

Last year at the reunion Dorinda yelled at Carole for calling John a pig.

Carole said I never called him a pig.

Andy confirmed and Dorinda said yes she did by insisting he wanted an apple in her blog

Andy, Carole, & Co laughed - the NY franchise women hold apples.

Dorinda - oh I thought she was saying he was a pig with an apple in its mouth.

Oh Dorinda, if it helps I think he is a disgusting pig

Yep, that was such a Freudian slip.

Dorinda sees John as he is...

OTOH, he was kind to her when she needed it. 

What a dilemma!

[jaync]

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The squirting orgasm thing is a perfect example. 

I thought that was George?

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And she will tell it to your face. 

Accompanied by a cloud of Ana-breath fumes.

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This makes me wonder how successful her Pinot Grigio really was, I though it did pretty well but now I wonder.

It made me wonder about the sales of SG, given Beth's irrational anger over something that would have no impact on her own product.

[KungFuBunny]

3 hours ago, Martinigirl said:

I want to know what Barbara got Lu and Tom for their wedding present.

Barbara has a line of Power Tools marketed towards women.

So I suspect her gift was some sort of vise that would help Luann pull the knife from her back

[Martinigirl]

6 minutes ago, KungFuBunny said:

Barbara has a line of Power Tools marketed towards women.

So I suspect her gift was some sort of vise that would help Luann pull the knife from her back

Do you think they returned the gift?

[KungFuBunny]

3 minutes ago, Martinigirl said:

Do you think they returned the gift?

It'll be interesting to see how this plays out on film.

Since Barbara did go the the wedding, I guess Luanne does not hear about this conversation until later on.

Who invited Barbara to Dorinda's charity event? Was it Dorinda herself - so are Dorinda and Barbara friends?

Carole said Barbara and Luann have known each other for decades and she met Barbara through Luanne.

If Luanne throws the party after she got married for Bravo to film - are we going to see Barbara again?

Returning the gift, would be talking negatively about Barbara on camera micced up