S05.E11: James K's Story

[Trees]

2 minutes ago, Yolo said:

Could you imagine all of us in a room watching this or any of the episodes!??

I want to watch with Anchorabu's 87-year old mom! :)

9 minutes ago, Yolo said:

??????????????

Realistically that steak dinner he had was enough to feed 3 ppl.

Let's remember that she bought him one with extra fat on it because "it tastes better". 

[Pepper Mostly]

52 minutes ago, Banshee said:

I turned 63 in January. WHTBJ was on TCM this afternoon. Maybe it's On Demand if you get that.

I DVR'd it! 

[Trees]

Who is planning to watch Tracey tonight? Any bets if she screams more or less than James?

[Anchorabu]

17 minutes ago, Trees said:

I want to watch with Anchorabu's 87-year old mom! :)

She said she'd love to watch with you guys too! 

Lol she just applauded Dr Now for tearing Lisa and James a new one and said "what a bunch of dumbass people! They should thank that dr on their hands and knees!"

Edited March 22, 2017 by Anchorabu

[Dashing Off]

20 minutes ago, Yolo said:

Could you imagine all of us in a room watching this or any of the episodes!??

That would be hysterical. 

Spoiler

 

[Desert Rat]

I haven't posted in this forum in years, but like so many of you, James compelled me to comment.  

Just watched the show.  Did anyone notice, James bites his nails.  That's right, he eats himself. Zero calories, but still.  I noticed this on my second viewing, when he was talking to Dr Now on video.  His fingernails are chewed to the quick and the tips are a bloody mess.  Ouh, mah finguhs!!

[Cherrio]

2 hours ago, Hockeymom said:

I think we determined he is wearing a condom type catheter. It is not inserted into the penis, the penis is inserted into it! It can be removed.

I think trying to find "it" would be the most grotesque hidden object game worldwide.      

And I will add 100 more vomits to all that information.  WAY TMI.    

[Anchorabu]

James: "My head's pounding!"

my 87 y/o mom: "Do you think hers isn't?"

[Otter]

15 minutes ago, Yolo said:

Could you imagine all of us in a room watching this or any of the episodes!??

We could have a drinking game -- a shot for every "oh myyyy llaaagzzz!"  We'd all be stinkin' drunk.

[DC Gal in VA]

21 minutes ago, Yolo said:

Could you imagine all of us in a room watching this or any of the episodes!??

Yolo I have thought about how much fun it would be to watch this jackass and all the other episodes with all of you. Really, it would be an honor and too funny. Of course we'd need to make sure there's plenty oh likkah!!!

Maybe someone could come up with a specialty cocktail just for the occasion!

How about the "A-ow Mah-Layg-atini" since sometimes when he's crying and whining it sounds to me like he puts an "a" in front of the "ow!?"

[NeitherSparky]

1 hour ago, CatherineM said:

Did you notice that Lisa cut up James' steak into small bite sizes?

To be fair I'll bet she does that because he most likely can't do it himself due to his position, think about how the plate is balanced on his chest at chin level. Plus he probably would get too tired cutting up the meat and then how would he shovel it in??

But there's still no excuse for her having to take the wrapper off that burger. :/

[meow-mah-leg]

But how would I be able to hear anything during our viewing party if you all are constantly screaming "eeeewwwwwwww", "groooossssss" and "I want to smack that guy so bad right now". 

[Banshee]

Lol, I am watching this AGAIN and every time I get madder at James. Lisa is expected to figure out EVERYTHING while he lies in bed peeing and moaning. He's such a BS artist about his dad, claiming how angry he is that he's unable to help his father, who MORTGAGED HIS DAMN HOUSE to haul James's ponderous ass to Houston. I didn't even see him thank his father. GAH!!

[MrsClaus]

Over the weekend dh and I were watching tv in bed.  I wish you guys could have seen his face when I told him I thought the mattress was making me look fatter than I am.  he was so confused.

[Yolo]

I want to shake the shit out of Lisa, no type of backbone!!! I'm getting angry all over again. How do you gain 185 in a couple of months!?

[AZChristian]

Just now, Yolo said:

How do you gain 185 in a couple of months!?

You cheat . . . "a couple of times."

[DC Gal in VA]

1 minute ago, Yolo said:

I want to shake the shit out of Lisa, no type of backbone!!! I'm getting angry all over again. How do you gain 185 in a couple of months!?

Oh no, Yolo, it was "only" 158 pounds, LOL!!!

[Yolo]

8 minutes ago, DC Gal in VA said:

Oh no, Yolo, it was "only" 158 pounds, LOL!!!

I want her to jump in the car and go soo bad!!!! I have to wipe, clean, cut up ur food, listen 2 whining, sleep on the floor, fetch and sacrifice for someone that refuses to even try!?AND HAS THE NERVE TO GET SNIPPY!!!!! BULLSHIT!!!!!

We get pissed just watching it, I don't know how the hell she hasn't strangled him yet!!!!

Edited March 22, 2017 by Yolo

[Anchorabu]

My 87 y/o mom, yelling at Lisa:

"just buy some good insurance!"

oh my!  ?

[DC Gal in VA]

Why is it that I just cannot get enough of Dr. Now giving Lisa and James Hell! Keep throwing major shade at their asses Dr. Now!!!

[aliya]

20 hours ago, meow-mah-leg said:

I also had to register because of James K. And because my husband also refuses to watch. How is my username? It was this or "gasoline-soaked-drawers". 

I am surprised he isn't dead yet. It can't last very long. No casket is big enough. 

In addition to gasoline soaked drawers, you will need to get a hand basket, as in 'going to hell in a hand basket.'  Speaking of caskets, check out Walter Hudson's casket (scroll down).

Welcome aboard. 

[DC Gal in VA]

11 minutes ago, AZChristian said:

You cheat . . . "a couple of times."

Oh, I get it now, that's James K code for a couple of times AN HOUR! Whew, now it makes sense.

[DC Gal in VA]

Okay, see you all over on Tracey's topic which begins in two minutes!

[aliya]

5 hours ago, operalover said:

And some of us are unlucky. I was diagnosed with periodontal disease. Since them I floss twice a day, brush 3 times a day, and use a waterpik religiously. I get a "periodontal maintenance" cleaning every 3 months and somehow my gums are getting worse. At my last visit, the dental hygienist said to me: Do you Floss? And I lost it right there! I was like YES ALL I DO IS WORK ON THESE FUCKING TEETH! Do I floss? Jesus H. Christ and then I started crying.

I don't mean to laugh, but that was funny. I understand how you feel, tho. Back when I started my PhD program, I went to the university faculty dentist for one thing and ended up sitting through a dental plan that would take the next three years, including having gums cut down, crowns, and root canals (that's with an 's'). As I worried about all the work to be done, the hygienist, a Russian emigre said (picture your best Russian accent here), "Don't vorry. We be like family." No kidding. By the end it was like having a long lost cousin from Russia.

[Trees]

46 minutes ago, Anchorabu said:

James: "My head's pounding!"

my 87 y/o mom: "Do you think hers isn't?"

I knew your mom was a hoot!  How fun that she loves the show so much!

[Pentwater]

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What happens to bodies of this size?  What do the families do?

What happens to fallen big trees that won't fit into a fireplace? The family would be informed of their choices: closed over-sized casket with some dismemberment or dismemberment/cremation.  Save some of those gas-soaked panties for me.

[Otter]

Sixth time for me (west coast, started at 6PM)  Each time there are nuances I didn't see before.  

This isn't just James, but so many -- have they not seen this show before?  How else did they know about Dr. Now?  Get a clue for crying out loud.  Eat less!  It's not a mystery.  

I have to wonder -- would it have been too much work to actually deal with insurance?  For Lisa -- yes.  It would be easier to beg and take money from dad.  Dr. Now's staff has dealt and contended with insurance and prevail.  I bet they didn't even try.

[Christina]

They said on the show that Dr. Now had appealed and argued with the insurance company for the ambulance, but were still denied.

[Otter]

19 minutes ago, Christina said:

They said on the show that Dr. Now had appealed and argued with the insurance company for the ambulance, but were still denied.

Operative words:  "They said".  I don't believe one word out of their mouths. If Dr. Now said something ... but he didn't on camera  I can almost hear the conversation; "dad if you love me you'll risk homelessness for me!"  

[Swiss]

I'm watching again. It's like a train wreck, you shouldn't watch but you just can't look away.  I think TLC realizes they have a ratings winner in James and will keep re-airing his episodes. Wonder when they filmed this??  How can he not be dead yet?   And what the heck does looking/feeling "looser" look like? 

Edited March 23, 2017 by Swiss

[chickenella]

Ok, so I watched it again tonight with my husband. This was my 3rd viewing, his first and he got the gasoline soaked underpants, too! Normally, Hubby eats and is ready for bed around...7pm, 7:30 but he was so engrossed in this he couldn't stop watching. He works at a hospital doing, guess what? Transporting patients, lol. He's had to push a few big ones but none THAT big.

This time around I got to see everything I had missed the other 2 times:the brown urine in his catheter bag, the blurring of Lisa's uh, crotch when she sat down in the skirt, he cutting up all the steak for him, ugh. But I still can't make out what is in the aquarium tanks, there is two of them. Somebody said it was a bearded dragon, whatever that is. (I've been too busy googling cellulitis to google reptiles)

This episode has bothered me since first seeing it last week. I even had a dream of a big hospital bed rolling down the street. This guy got so many chances and he blew them all, I think that's what bothers me most. He'd rather fuss and get on the pity pot rather than help himself. I don't know, part of me thinks he should go to a mental hospital, but you can't commit someone against their will. Yes, if they're a danger to themselves or others I believe you can get them admitted. But would a mental health hospital be equipped to care of a patient in his condition? With the cellulitis, heart failure, and whatever else he's got going on. (I'm thinking of kidney failure by the looks of the peepee bag). Maybe a psych ward of a regular hospital? Also, with CHF I've been told you can live a long while-as long as you take your meds, go low salt, eat right, get the weight down, but I don't know about him.

[chickenella]

Oh, and I watched Tracy's story afterwards. It was a PLEASURE seeing her lose the weight, take on some responsibility like when the boyfriend said he couldn't take her to the lymphademia specialist so she went herself. Way to go girl!

[Dru Blood]

4 hours ago, Desert Rat said:

I haven't posted in this forum in years, but like so many of you, James compelled me to comment.  

Just watched the show.  Did anyone notice, James bites his nails.  That's right, he eats himself. Zero calories, but still.  I noticed this on my second viewing, when he was talking to Dr Now on video.  His fingernails are chewed to the quick and the tips are a bloody mess.  Ouh, mah finguhs!!

Yeah, I noticed that to.  His hands were so gross.

[Christina]

As much as they lied, and as likely as it was that the words that came out of their mouths could be, and likely were, lies at every moment and with every breath, I think that if Dr. Now hadn't tried to get him an ambulance transport, the show would have disclosed that because it added to the drama.

I worked for an attorney doing mostly contract disputes, but we did a limited personal injury caseload and ambulance and medical transport were often denied, especially air transport, because of the cost. Taking him from Kentucky to Texas would not have been inexpensive and would have been an automatic denial, and with the risk of him dying during transport, the denials would have been upheld. Risk of death increases with both his weight, the length of the trip, and the roughness of ambulances. 

Life flights to trauma centers from our rural areas were always denied, even though the doctors would affirm that the risk of death without it was substantial, but for a helicopter to even take flight was over $15,000, so it was automatically denied. Insurance companies are in business to make money. Maybe, if he had shown some progress while in the hospital previously, they would have had a better argument, but no, his girlfriend probably snuck him food and he probably continued to gain while hospitalized for the infection, because he was an addict and an ass.

[Barb23]

17 hours ago, Tabbygirl521 said:

Well, as the Viagara ads say, "Ask your doctor if your heart is healthy enough for sex." His can't be. 

We would be paying for that Viagra with our tax dollars. 

Edited March 23, 2017 by Barb23

[Lizzie Jones]

12 hours ago, Runnergirl said:

Vomit. Vomit vomit vomit vomit vomit. 

Sorry. I just happen to be one of those people that 'goes there'. I've read too many medical books/journals I think and just don't give a heck anymore. LOL

[Lizzie Jones]

12 hours ago, Hockeymom said:

I think we determined he is wearing a condom type catheter. It is not inserted into the penis, the penis is inserted into it! It can be removed.

We don't know that with 100% certainty plus I was just basing my theory on the catheter I'm most familiar with from my own care when I was in the hospital. 

I'm female and single so I had no idea that condom type catheters even existed until I saw them written about on this thread. When I was typing out my theory I wasn't even thinking about them at the time. They are not a subject that sticks particularly well in my mind. :-)

[Lizzie Jones]

10 hours ago, Trees said:

Actually, they're going to be in a real fix when James finally takes his last breath (screaming about body parts he goes)...

Getting that hunk of flesh out of the house?  Who's gonna do it?

Finding a funeral home that can handle the body?

Cost of a coffin for a body that size?

Assume he'd have to buy 2 cemetery plots?

And then......... think of how they'll dispose of the toxic mattress and all of his diseased stuff. 

Assuming he dies at home and the body releases all that stuff when it goes?  Puddles of body fluids.....

Guessing that cremation is impossible due to the size?

What happens to bodies of this size?  What do the families do?

My older sister was well over 700 pounds and possibly closer to 800 pounds when she passed away and we had a coffin for her and she was cremated.  Then she was buried into a regular sized plot for urns into the ground. Her remains fit into a regular sized urn. When she was cremated it was thought that they might have to take her to a place where they cremate horses and large farm and zoo animals but she plus her coffin (which was a larger sized coffin already in stock...they do make them nowadays because of the obesity epedemic) fit into the oven.  Because people are dying larger these days the funeral homes and the  people who remove the bodies are prepared for it.

[Lizzie Jones]

8 hours ago, Pentwater said:

What happens to fallen big trees that won't fit into a fireplace? The family would be informed of their choices: closed over-sized casket with some dismemberment or dismemberment/cremation.  Save some of those gas-soaked panties for me.

Sorry to burst your bubble but that would never happen plus something like that **is** against any laws regarding deceased people no matter what their size.

[Thriftykins]

James' body was moved with great effort to and from the hospital.  After he dies later this year, they'll probably do the same thing.  I mean, James is super heavy, but people move large and heavy objects all the time.  It would be easy to find some sort of crate to stick him in for burial.  Could he actually be cremated?  Would he fit on the incinerator belt or into the furnace?

[Lizzie Jones]

9 minutes ago, Michael Stabosz said:

James' body was moved with great effort to and from the hospital.  After he dies later this year, they'll probably do the same thing.  I mean, James is super heavy, but people move large and heavy objects all the time.  It would be easy to find some sort of crate to stick him in for burial.  Could he actually be cremated?  Would he fit on the incinerator belt or into the furnace?

My sister (who was close to 800 pounds when she passed away) fit in the furnace when she was cremated. 

They slid her and her coffin right into it.

Incinerator belt? You've been playing too much WOW. 

[Thriftykins]

33 minutes ago, Lizzie Jones said:

My sister (who was close to 800 pounds when she passed away) fit in the furnace when she was cremated. 

They slid her and her coffin right into it.

Incinerator belt? You've been playing too much WOW. 

Well I never played World of Warcraft, but every time I've seen a cremation depicted on TV, they placed the body on some sort of shelf or conveyor belt and used that to push it into the furnace.  Then pull it back to collect the ashes afterwards.  It's not some home oven that you can stick your hands in to after all.  There's huge jets of flames in there!

[Christina]

When my uncle died about 25 years ago, he had to be "surgically altered" to fit in the coffin. It wasn't even just his weight, but his height, too. They told my aunt that she could choose cremation or burial, but his cremation would have to take place at the veterinary college because he was too large for the funeral home to handle, or he would have to be amputated to fit in the longest and largest coffin they had. It's great that funeral homes can now handle larger people, but those comments weren't that far out there.

[Momof2Cats]

7 hours ago, chickenella said:

Ok, so I watched it again tonight with my husband. This was my 3rd viewing, his first and he got the gasoline soaked underpants, too! Normally, Hubby eats and is ready for bed around...7pm, 7:30 but he was so engrossed in this he couldn't stop watching. He works at a hospital doing, guess what? Transporting patients, lol. He's had to push a few big ones but none THAT big.

This time around I got to see everything I had missed the other 2 times:the brown urine in his catheter bag, the blurring of Lisa's uh, crotch when she sat down in the skirt, he cutting up all the steak for him, ugh. But I still can't make out what is in the aquarium tanks, there is two of them. Somebody said it was a bearded dragon, whatever that is. (I've been too busy googling cellulitis to google reptiles)

This episode has bothered me since first seeing it last week. I even had a dream of a big hospital bed rolling down the street. This guy got so many chances and he blew them all, I think that's what bothers me most. He'd rather fuss and get on the pity pot rather than help himself. I don't know, part of me thinks he should go to a mental hospital, but you can't commit someone against their will. Yes, if they're a danger to themselves or others I believe you can get them admitted. But would a mental health hospital be equipped to care of a patient in his condition? With the cellulitis, heart failure, and whatever else he's got going on. (I'm thinking of kidney failure by the looks of the peepee bag). Maybe a psych ward of a regular hospital? Also, with CHF I've been told you can live a long while-as long as you take your meds, go low salt, eat right, get the weight down, but I don't know about him.

James would need to lose 200 lbs and have Lisa to help him get on the pity pot.  Right now James is on the pity bed pad.

[Lizzie Jones]

18 minutes ago, Michael Stabosz said:

Well I never played World of Warcraft, but every time I've seen a cremation depicted on TV, they placed the body on some sort of shelf or conveyor belt and used that to push it into the furnace.  Then pull it back to collect the ashes afterwards.  It's not some home oven that you can stick your hands in to after all.  There's huge jets of flames in there!

From what I have seen on the following video they use a mobile conveyer belt and from the looks of the ones seen in the video they are made of steel so they can easily handle the weight of the coffin and the body.

 

[Thriftykins]

42 minutes ago, Lizzie Jones said:

From what I have seen on the following video they use a mobile conveyer belt and from the looks of the ones seen in the video they are made of steel so they can easily handle the weight of the coffin and the body.

I was actually thinking a person James' size would be difficult due to his width, not his weight.

[Tabbygirl521]

3 hours ago, Lizzie Jones said:

My older sister was well over 700 pounds and possibly closer to 800 pounds when she passed away and we had a coffin for her and she was cremated.  Then she was buried into a regular sized plot for urns into the ground. Her remains fit into a regular sized urn. When she was cremated it was thought that they might have to take her to a place where they cremate horses and large farm and zoo animals but she plus her coffin (which was a larger sized coffin already in stock...they do make them nowadays because of the obesity epedemic) fit into the oven.  Because people are dying larger these days the funeral homes and the  people who remove the bodies are prepared for it.

Oh Lizzie. It doesn't bear thinking about. I am so glad this didn't happen. {{hugs}}

2 hours ago, Christina said:

When my uncle died about 25 years ago, he had to be "surgically altered" to fit in the coffin. It wasn't even just his weight, but his height, too. They told my aunt that she could choose cremation or burial, but his cremation would have to take place at the veterinary college because he was too large for the funeral home to handle, or he would have to be amputated to fit in the longest and largest coffin they had. It's great that funeral homes can now handle larger people, but those comments weren't that far out there.

This breaks my heart. 

[Lizzie Jones]

1 hour ago, Michael Stabosz said:

I was actually thinking a person James' size would be difficult due to his width, not his weight.

I guess it all comes down  to the width of the door of the oven and the width of the deceased but with that said my sister got cremated just fine and her coffin was 50 inches across.

[AZChristian]

7 minutes ago, Lizzie Jones said:

I guess it all comes down  to the width of the door of the oven and the width of the deceased but with that said my sister got cremated just fine and her coffin was 50 inches across.

I just did a quick google search.  Most cremation ovens are about 46 inches wide.  James' width with extended legs was 50, according to the firefighters who measured.  If they got him out the front door, they'll get him into the cremation oven (if that's the way the family chooses).  And in the latter case, no one will have to listen to him scream, "Ow . . . mah laygs!!!!"

[Trees]

Oy, they made the family buy an oversized coffin?  Then incinerated it??? 

My parents wanted "witnessed" cremations. (It's a thing).  Their desire for "witnessed" came from the scandal in FL where a guy with a crematorium let 300 bodies stack up and gave back boxes of dirt for cremains.

So, with them, they put their bodies directly on the conveyor belt.  When the family is ready, they push a button. It moves. It goes through a door and the family can't witness anything anymore because that's where it goes into the flames.