Devious Maids - General Discussion

[Tara Ariano]

Marisol finds a new love; Peri tries to keep Rosie and Spence apart; Zoila discovers that Valentina is back from Africa; Carmen and Alejandro settle in to their fake relationship; Odessa reaches her limit; Adrian and Evelyn hire a bodyguard.

[Tara Ariano]

Wig Cop had some thoughts on the episode!

[formerlyfreedom]

Carmen feels threatened by someone from Alejandro's past; Zoila intervenes with Valentina's job while ignoring problems with her husband; Rosie starts a new job; Marisol tries to make peace with Opal; Peri threatens Spence.

 

[maggiethebeagle]

Aaaah! So happy this show is back in all it's campy goodness! Susan Lucci still does not disappoint.

[pj3]

New poster - but love this show.  Susan Lucci steals ever scene she's in.  (Have you eaten anything? I had an aspirin this morning. Hee!)  Still love Evelyn and as unpopular as it is, I love Carmen.  I think she has the most room for growth, and thus has great story line potential.  On the other hand, I could strangle Valentina. She is a brat.  And now she's going to have a pool "man" to banter with.  Ugh. 

[jah1986]

I am happy to have the show back. Still don't think Valentina is necessary to have on the show, she adds nothing in my opinion. And Marisol's plot could be interesting but I wanted to call Opal Mrs. Danvers throughout. Do the writers think no one has seen Rebecca? I'm surprised how much I like having Evelyn and her husband (completely blanked on his name) back. But won't Zoila hit the roof when she finds out her daughter is working for that perv? Doesn't Valentina know that backstory?

[Dagny]

I loved how Susan Lucci was "You might not be afraid of your mother, but I am".

I loved Evelyn & her husband's first replacement maid.  She was so proud of that pick.  With all of those campy stares during the robbery, I think that we'll find out there was more to it later in the season. Fun!

[cattykit]

I still can't figure out how Valentina has an accent when her mother doesn't.  And wasn't Valentina supposed to be going to school?  But now she's working as a maid again.  She and her BF--who can't act his way out of a paper bag--can both leave now.

Love Evelyn and her new relationship with Adrian.  Will Evelyn go after the security guy, or will he arm-wrestle Adrian for Valentina.  But I don't really care.  There was plenty of soap, but no drama.  Please amp it up a little bit.  We know Mrs. Danvers isn't going to succeed in gaslighting Mrs. DeWinter.  I just don't get how the maid got involved with killing Marisol's BF's first wife in the first place.  I suppose that's coming.

[Barbican]

I am happy to have the show back. Still don't think Valentina is necessary to have on the show, she adds nothing in my opinion. And Marisol's plot could be interesting but I wanted to call Opal Mrs. Danvers throughout. Do the writers think no one has seen Rebecca? I'm surprised how much I like having Evelyn and her husband (completely blanked on his name) back. But won't Zoila hit the roof when she finds out her daughter is working for that perv? Doesn't Valentina know that backstory?

 

The show is at times super silly but I Iove it. I think it's obvious to everybody that the whole storyline with Marisol and Opal is based on Rebecca, the writers know that we know. It's on purpose. Hopefully, there'll be a twist to the story. Either way, I'm excited. I adore Marisol.

 

And Evelyn is my absolute favourite, the actress is fantastic. "Just try to wear a shirt" LOL

 

There's something that bothers me about the show and it's the language. Wouldn't all those maids be speaking Spanish with each other? A friend of mine is of Iranian descent but she was born in the UK and she only speaks Farsi with her parents/grandparents/aunts. With her sister, she speaks English. 

If all the maids were born in the US, that would be a different story. But Rosy (that's her name? and she's Mexican?) is a recent immigrant. Same with Carmen IIRC. So I don't know. It just jumps at me that they would be speaking Spanish when they're together, not English.

Also, is Rosy's son mute? He hasn't said a word so far. Maybe because the actor doesn't actually speak Spanish? I'm thinking too much about this.

[formerlyfreedom]

Marisol discovers shocking news about her fiance and Opal; Rosie takes Kenneth to a specialist who offers them new-found hope; Carmen prepares for her performance debut; Genevieve invites Zoila to a luncheon; Valentina struggles to get over Remi.

 

 

[Dagny]

I swear, I need to go to websites to figure out which guy is what.  I really like Rosie's new job.  I think she has a great relationship with the old guy.

[aradia22]

Not much happened this week. It seems like a very weak second episode. You'd think they'd want to keep the drama going to keep the ratings up. This is like a middle of the season filler episode. Ana had fire and attitude as Hilda. At least in season 1 as Marisol she had this sort of coolness to her and she had some good moments with Taylor. This season it's like she's had all the energy sucked out of her. I'm starting to question her acting ability, it's gotten so bad.

 

Valentina continues to be horrible. Why do the writers hate Zoila? She's already been cursed with Valentina as a daughter and now her husband is suddenly unhappy? Also I get that Zoila can't just go around telling everyone about the Powell's dirty laundry but are we just forgetting about everything that happened last season? Surely, allowances can be made. I don't think Valentina would go around telling every... Oh, wait. It's Valentina and she's awful. She can do anything. Nevermind.

 

Nothing's really happening with the storyline but I like what they're setting up with Rosie's new employers. They seem like they could be a good addition to the cast. With all of the other women giving so much attitude I think Rosie is a nice counterbalance. I wish they hadn't messed around with the Rosie/Spence thing so much and just let it be this sweet little romance but oh, well. 

 

I'm suspicious of Tony. He's a little too wish fulfillment-y. Maybe he's just attracted to Evelyn or maybe he has some kind of angle and some reason for wanting her to like him. 

 

The one thing I really liked about the episode was the second mysterious note. If this series keeps going is there going to be a mysterious note in every season?

 

Do you think Alejandro is really gone? If so, what is going to happen to Carmen and Odessa's storylines? I don't think this is going to become Smash or Nashville where we spend part of the episode watching Carmen try and launch her music career. Also, I really liked him.

[formerlyfreedom]

A place to discuss particular episodes, arcs and moments from the Devious Maid's first season. Please remember this isn't a complete catch-all topic -- check out the forum for character topics and other places for show-related talk.

[maggiethebeagle]

I keep waiting for Missus Peri's hit & run from last year to come back and bite her in the ass. With her being so deliciously evil with Meester Spence & Rosie right now it just makes me wonder.

I hope they didn't kill Alejandro but it's not looking good. :(

Loved Adrian putting up the car window & leaving Evelyn outside.

[aradia22]

Oh dear Lord. I'm sorry your ex-boyfriend is not available to hear about your parents taking a break when you call him at 2 o'clock in the morning after he's worked a 20 hour shift helping underprivileged people in Africa. Oh my God, my eyes cannot handling all of this rolling. Why is Valentina so awful? Why? Can someone please answer this???

I enjoyed the bit of comedy in the opening at the Powell's. I feel like "neighborhood watch" is at least a little bit brave so I was surprised that Evelyn immediately wrote it off as paranoia instead of at least an attempt at being proactive.

I hate that they actually killed Alejandro.

I have no idea where this plotline with Evelyn and the bodyguard is going but their encounters are fun. I still find him suspicious.

I still like Rosie and it's nice that she has something to do that doesn't relate to Spence. Her plotline right now is just the right kind of levity to offset everything else.

I'm glad they found a way to tie the Powell's to Marisol's storyline. Now all they have to do is find natural ways for the rest of the cast to come together and we might have a cohesive show again.

As much as I hate Valentina, that was a nice moment she had with Adrian. Though it's weird for me that he's completely lost all of his skeevyness.

I liked the idea of Carmen performing at the funeral but I wish they wouldn't have pushed it so far. Why does she need sequins and a sexy, dance number? I vaguely remember her performing love ballads in season 1. Surely she would be able to perform a slow song that could pay tribute to Alejandro while still getting her seen by all the right people in the music industry.

Genevieve has been kind of useless lately so it was nice for her to have that moment with Zoila near the end of the episode.

[OjaiHoney]

I just adore this show!! so soapy and funny and entertaining. I actually laughed out loud at a few moments in this episode. My favorites were any scene with La Lucci in them. Looking forward to seeing where the mystery goes this season

[yourpointis]

Oh dear Lord. I'm sorry your ex-boyfriend is not available to hear about your parents taking a break when you call him at 2 o'clock in the morning after he's worked a 20 hour shift helping underprivileged people in Africa. Oh my God, my eyes cannot handling all of this rolling. Why is Valentina so awful? Why? Can someone please answer this???

 

I wish I could answer this because I feel the same as you. Valentina just comes off as vapid and her storyline is so tiresome. After reading several comments at Lifetime, it led me to believe she has a following. There are people there who were enamored with the Valentina and Remy storyline. Yet it made my teeth ache. Other than those two and Rosie's whiny baby talk, I love this show. 

[Dagny]

I FF through Valentina and anything Remy. It makes me want to poke out my eyes, it would be less painful.  I lurve Evelyn and how Lucci clearly acknowledges who is the boss and has the power.

[Barbican]

I wish I could answer this because I feel the same as you. Valentina just comes off as vapid and her storyline is so tiresome. After reading several comments at Lifetime, it led me to believe she has a following. There are people there who were enamored with the Valentina and Remy storyline. Yet it made my teeth ache. Other than those two and Rosie's whiny baby talk, I love this show. 

 

There are Valentina/Remiiiiiiiiii shippers out there? I know I shouldn't be surprised but they are so incredibly dull, bland and annoying. Valentina is especially irritating. I just don't understand how she can be Zoila's daughter. One, they look NOTHING alike. Two, Zoila is awesome, badass and funny. The actress who plays her is really good. Valentina is none of those things. 

 

I continue to adore Evelyn, the actress who plays her just nails it (really, I should start learning her name!): the bitchiness, the poshness and the way she speaks! She sounds like one of those old Hollywood actresses, like Katherine Hepburn. She's fantastic.

 

I'm disappointed that Marisol doesn't seem to be a professor anymore. So what she just stays at home like the other women in Beverly Hills in their big mansions? That sounds truly boring. Suddenly she meets that rich guy and boom she quits her job? She didn't seem like that last season. 

Edited May 7, 2014 by Barbican

[aradia22]

 

I'm disappointed that Marisol doesn't seem to be a professor anymore. So what she just stays at home like the other women in Beverly Hills in their big mansions? That sounds truly boring. Suddenly she meets that rich guy and boom she quits her job? She didn't seem like that last season.

I think we were told that she is currently writing a book about her experience working as a maid to exonerate her son. I don't remember if she quit her job or just took a sabbatical when she started working as a maid last season. She does seem to be kind of useless as we see her neither teaching nor writing but mainly just standing or sitting around talking to other characters. I think part of the reason she seems so boring is because Ana's acting is so flat.

[Barbican]

I think we were told that she is currently writing a book about her experience working as a maid to exonerate her son. I don't remember if she quit her job or just took a sabbatical when she started working as a maid last season. She does seem to be kind of useless as we see her neither teaching nor writing but mainly just standing or sitting around talking to other characters. I think part of the reason she seems so boring is because Ana's acting is so flat.

 

Ah yes, I had forgotten about the book. The thing is, Marisol was my favourite character last season because her storyline was the most interesting one. But so far, this season she's been kind of useless, as you rightly put it. And Ana Ortiz seemed like a decent actress last season. Not brilliant by any means but you know, decent.

[jah1986]

I did enjoy Marisol at the luncheon getting gossipy with Evelyn. But I have to admit I was taken out of a few scenes by Ana Ortiz's thin frame, that girl needs to eat a sandwich.

 

And I too enjoy Susan Lucci, she doesn't have a lot to do but she does a great job with what she has. Loved her "you'd think so" to Tanya(?) when she said she's your maid can't you just make her give me my coat. And the end with Zoila was sweet.

 

Carmen's storyline still doesn't move me, it may be the actress though. I'm more invested in Odessa.

 

The less said about Valentina the better.

 

Rosie and the new family isn't too bad. I wonder what kind of man the husband is/was before the stroke. I think that grates about Rosie is the actress's baby voice and also those weepy eyes, they freaked me out in X-Men 3 and I've never quite gotten over it.

Edited May 8, 2014 by jah1986

[pj3]

Quick question. Have the Powells ever said their son died? I seem to remember them saying "I lost a child" and "he's gone" and "Evil took our child". Whoever suggested Ethan is really the long lost Powell heir might be on to something. Seems a bit odd they'd bring that story back up AND make Eleanor Dahlia's best friend.

[TomGirl]

The Powell's son was hit by a car.

[cattykit]

 

I think that grates about Rosie is the actress's baby voice

I was almost willing to accept that until I watched Entourage on demand and realized that's not her natural inflection.  Why, oh why, does she talk like that?

 

 

Carmen's storyline still doesn't move me, it may be the actress though. I'm more invested in Odessa.

 

The less said about Valentina the better.

 

I thought the worst part about losing Alejandro was that we would lose Odessa, too.  I hope they find a way to bring her back.  Valentina, ugh.  Can't stand anything about her, her storyline, the actress, etc.  And now Remi's coming back?  Blech.  Thank heaven I DVR this and I can just FF their scenes.

 

Love the interplay between Genevieve and Zoila.  They are awesome together.  I'm not a big Lucci fan but this week really showed off whatever it is that she brings to the table.

 

I do think that Adrian going from a nasty, self-assured skeeve to a whiny, terrified wimp who could be so easily gaslighted into a mental institution is a little farfetched.  But I also think it's great that Evelyn is finally getting some.  Rebecca Wisocky is da bomb.

[formerlyfreedom]

Nicholas gets jealous over Marisol's close friendship with her book editor; Lucinda crosses the line with Rosie; a new visitor creates problems for Carmen; Tony makes a decision that troubles Evelyn; Valentina and Ethan get into a complicated situation.

 

 

[yourpointis]

Please tell me the writers are not going to make Lucinda's (Rosie's new boss) adopted daughter the young woman married to her (Lucinda's) father. Even without having sex that would still just be beyond sick. Also, is it going to be revealed that Opal and Dahlia were lovers? Is that why Opal has been so protective of Dahlia's possessions and hasn't been dating due to still being in love with Dahlia?

[smiley13]

This episode was totally confusing in many ways.  Who was the guy came and confronted Mr Spence's nephew about the shooting?  Are we supposed to know him?  And how contrived that it was his nephew who was involved in the shooting.  So does this mean we will meet Spence's sister, the mother?

 

And where the heck is Peri?  Has she been shown at all since he hired Carmen?

[Lebanna]

The guy confronting Spence's nephew was Ethan the pool boy who is dating Valentina. There seems to be a real theme of lousy men in this show which is pretty depressing. Seriously, is there even one male character that we can root for? Even Remi seems to have treated Valentina badly in Africa.

 

I agree - the wife is going to turn out to be the granddaughter and it will be disgusting. Nice to see some realization that perhaps everyone had a reason not to care much about the old man. He seems like he was terrible too.

 

Rosie pretending to tell off her kid was amusing, but seriously, these people are living in California and don't know a single word of Spanish? Really? I guess they all took French. It just seems like you'd be taking a big risk pulling a stunt like that when you don't know how much someone can follow.

 

Although last week with Spence it was even weirder, he seemed to understand the other maid speaking Spanish but couldn't understand Carmen's 'translations'.

[smiley13]

So creepy Opal's son is a criminal?  I did not even recognize him because I tend to zone out on all things Valentina.

[formerlyfreedom]

Marisol discovers more secrets about Opal; Rosie tries to help Lucinda, but it leads to further strife in the Miller family; Carmen prepares for a performance; Zoila goes on a date; Genevieve interferes with Valentina and Ethan's relationship.

 

 

[formerlyfreedom]

Marisol convinces Nicholas to get rid of Opal; Reggie grows jealous; Zoila gets closer to Javier.

 

 

[OjaiHoney]

I enjoy Genevieve SO much!! I could watch her and Zoila and their shenanigans all the time!

[aradia22]

So, the first scene with Marisol was as boring as ever. She is seriously the worst detective. It's one thing to ask kind of obvious questions with Taylor who was a bit dim and going through emotional issues (though even she knew something was up). How in the heck did she think she was going to fool Opal with her really obvious hinting? I think the "gossip" thing is kind of interesting. Opal is fine dropping all these hints but I don't know if you can say she ever "gossips". Later she threatens Marisol by trying to leverage her story which Marisol refers to as "tattling." I don't know if the distinction is the collaborative/sharing part of gossiping or a distinction between Opal and the way the rest of the maids behave. I'd like to see other maids, please. Kick out Opal and Valentina and bring back the maid one of the Powells' old maids who didn't speak much. There's a lot you can do with nonspeaking characters and characters who speak very little, especially with the comic side of this show. Also, anything's better than Valentina.

 

I liked Zoila's interaction with the chef. I hope all her possibly romantic encounters with men don't follow the same pattern but I like that the estrangement from Pablo frees her up to do more as a character than judge Genevieve and have to deal with the mess that is Valentina. I like her sassyness. Someone needs to stand up for herself in a non-Valentina, non-Carmen kind of way.

 

Speaking of Valentina, what in the heck is wrong with people on this show? Remy is worried Valentina is "falling in love" with Ethan after what, maybe a month at the most? Genevieve is convinced that no one in the world would be better for Remy? Seriously? Did all the other eligible women in the world die in a freak accident? I get her wanting Zoila to be family and how last season she was swept up in the romance but uh uh. Valentina is horrid. No one is that stupid. At least she didn't tell Genevieve "make sure Ethan's acception to Brown is withdrawn." You know that was in the first draft of the script. Ugh, I hate her so much!

 

Not slut-shaming here but they definitely tarted up Rosie for her date what with the slow pan up (I thought it was Carmen), the way they squished her boobs into that too tight dress, and the hair and makeup. Isn't Rosie supposed to be the more conservative one? Also, oh, no! Why does everyone go bad so fast! Not Reggie! The moment Lucinda asked for financial statements I knew it wouldn't end well. Though maybe it's just that this show telegraphs plotlines with all the subtlety of throwing people out of windows. Anyway, all the work they've been doing to build up the storyline with Rosie's new employers paid off this week. That was some Tyler Perry/Tennesee Williams family drama/acting. The kind that gets you all tense but it deliciously soapy at the same time. "Give your maid a raise, old man. She just saved your life." Love it!

 

LOL. They're really running with this Carmen-is-the-worst-maid-ever thing. Now she's just outright refusing to do her job. But hooray that she's going to an open-mic and doing something meaningful to try and move her career forward.

 

I'm not going to touch how uncomfortable the "Opal's a lesbian!" *stage gasp* thing was. Though I don't believe they had an affair. The hoarding of the photos and negligee and scarf seemed more obsessive than loving. Like, we were a step away from a shrine and if that's the way the writers think of lesbianism.... right, forgot, not going to touch it.

 

"Elegant badass"? What? That's not even a thing. 

[jah1986]

aradia22 I'll just co-sign your post. Quick question, are they setting Carmen up for a fatal attraction storyline with Ethan? His look after the waitress said she's good was hard to read. I usually can't stand Tyler Perry over the top nonsense but I did love Lucinda's line about giving the maid a raise. I too was disappointed that Reggie's turned into a mustache twirling villain. I hope Zoila's chef doesn't turn out to be a nightmare.

 

I missed the Powells.

[Lebanna]

Opal being in love with Daliah is just yet another rip off of Rebecca. Some originality would be good, otherwise next week we'll discover that Opal is a twisted firestarter. I do like the Mandalay staircase in the library, though, it looks a lot like the movie.

 

The way they dealt with Opal being gay was even worse than how they dealt with the sexworker who Zoila was dating the other week. At least she could legitimately feel like he'd been lying to her. Yes, ok, Opal's awful, but the level of homophobia and the oooh scandalous-ness of it all felt pretty nasty. Do better, show.

 

Zoila's Argentinian boyfriend is going to be evil too, isn't he? All men are evil on this show, except maybe Remi. Rosie's new boyfriend is evil now, as well. What is up with that? Bring on the nice men. In fact, just bring back Sam.

 

This show feels like it's going around in circles. I'm sure last year was more fun. 

Edited May 29, 2014 by Lebanna

[aradia22]

 

Quick question, are they setting Carmen up for a fatal attraction storyline with Ethan? His look after the waitress said she's good was hard to read.

Yeah, I wasn't clear on that either. I'm sure we'll find out. On the one hand, he clearly seems to like Carmen... happy that she made a joke instead of coddling him when they first met, calling her "nice" (who calls Carmen nice?), putting up with her shit and forgiving her pretty easily (especially with the other characters on this show in mind). But we know that he actually wasn't suicidal. But he did join up with the very punchable Ethan's gang of thieves. For now, I'll say, not fatal attraction. 

[Lavinia]

This season is SOOOOO boring and slow. They spent a WHOLE episode establishing that Opal was a lesbian when they gave that away in the promo... and what happened to the gunmen? They haven't struck in A MONTH!!! There's just no sense of suspense or danger in this show anymore, it's just a bunch of people going out on dates and angsting over their love lives. And what the f***k happened to Peri after she threatened her husband into staying in the marriage? What came of it? And what about Odessa? Did they even explain who she went to work for after Alejandro died? And where was Evelyn tonight? So far, the first season was much edgier, darker, more interesting and more mysterious if you ask me -_-

Edited May 30, 2014 by Lavinia

[smiley13]

This episode had too much Carmen in it IMO.  Of the five lead characters, I dislike Valentina and Carmen.  Where was Spence while Carmen was sitting around not working?   And why on earth would two guys fight over Valentina??  

 

The good parts are anything that has Susan Lucci in it, and the Powell's.  Don't have another episode without the Powell's.

 

And of course Rosie's lawyer friend is a bad guy.  You could see that coming from a mile away.   I hope they don't ruin Zoila's new friend and make him bad too.

[txhorns79]

Yes, ok, Opal's awful, but the level of homophobia and the oooh scandalous-ness of it all felt pretty nasty. Do better, show.

 

I did think the womens' reaction to the whole thing was strangely dated.  Yes, the idea of the maid and her employer having an affair is scandalous, more so if it is a same-sex affair when the employer is married to a man, but all the comments about the sensible shoes and hardware stores were just tired.

[portfino]

When Marisol gave Nicholas the ultimatum, I just wish he told her off as a homophobic, busybody.

 

At this point, I have lost interest in everyone except the Powells, Susan Lucci, Zoila, and shirtless Remi.

[MsTree]

I'd like to know what Opal has on Nicholas for him to keep her around for 15 years. At first I thought he accidentally killed his wife, but after tonight, I don't have a clue. Anyone?

[iMonrey]

Me neither. So, Opal is the one who killed Nick's wife (what was her name again?). What did Nicholas do and why is he covering this up for her? Does Ethan remember what happened? That's got to be a hard thing to get over, watching your mother throw someone over a bridge.

 

I did like how Rosie's new boyfriend set up Mr. Spence. Poor Mr. Spence!

[SonofaBiscuit]

So, is Marisol going to be involved in the major mystery in season 3 too?  I can't stand her, she's always up in people's business!  She's definitely my least favorite of all of the women on this show. 

 

I like how Nicholas was jogging on a deserted street but didn't hear a screeching car coming up behind him.  Then, he turns and sees the car and just lets it hit him.  Don't bother to even try to jump out of the way or anything, Nick. 

 

I like Zoila's new boyfriend, he's sexy.  I didn't like how she was trying to talk the guy into firing his maid, though.  She doesn't know what the situation is.  What if the lady was 65 years old and had been with his family for his entire life?  There's a lot to be said for loyalty.

 

Poor Rosie.  Her new boyfriend has some problems.  I hope she and Spence can reconcile because he seems to really love her. 

Edited June 2, 2014 by SonofaBiscuit

[scruffy73]

I don't think Marisol wanting to fire Opal had anything to do with being homophobic.  It was, as I saw it, more that Nick should have felt betrayed by Opal, therefore, should not be so loyal to her.  She wants Opal out, period, and doesn't understand Nick's loyalty and knowing that she had an affair with his wife definitely makes it more confusing.  I understand it.

 

I feel sorry for poor, simple, Rosie.  She stood up to Reggie very well and now he's faking fights to keep her from Spence. I understand why she believes him. Hell, she SAW, it, but I would have hoped she would know Spence better than that.  I guess he has not earned the benefit of the doubt.  Has it come out that Peri called immigration on Rosie?

 

Carmen is annoying and a brat.  Zoila got on my nerves with the "fire your maid" thing but her man is hot sex on a platter.  I love Valentina getting Adrian Powell back home to throw salt in Evelyn's sex game.  I'm interested in the Valentina-Remy relationship.  I like him a lot.  I didn't like her at all last season but she's growing on me.

[bantering]

I can't believe the British guy and Adrian's wife actually thought they were being discreet. Don't they lock their doors when they're doing it?

[aradia22]

I don't think Opal would have gone for straight up poison... or even a laxative, but I wouldn't have drunk that coffee either. Mainly because I hate coffee.

 

"So why don't you use it on your hands?" is totally the kind of line Zoila would have delivered in a fun, snarky way. 

Wait, so the reason she likes Ethan is because his mom is also a maid? What? But also, it's Valentina so she deserves whatever horrible thing isn't going to happen to her. Oh, I'm so sorry you were so unhappy in Africa where no one made you go.

I liked checking in on Adrian at the loony bin without making a big thing of it. I don't need to have a long scene where we meet all the inmates. Just keep it cheap and throw in some jokes.

 

Rosie's outfit at dinner was so bad. I swear, they are intentionally putting her in bad outfits. That skirt looked awful on her.

 

Gasp! Carmen cleaning! Now I've seen everything. Well, we've solved the mystery of whether or not Ty is into Carmen. Spence is kind of inappropriate. Carmen isn't Rosie. He just hired her. It's weird that he's questioning her about the jacket and asking who her "sugar daddy" is. "Sometimes at night I thank god for bringing you into my life"... Oh that sentence could have gone so wrong after "Sometimes at night".

 

I think the not so subtle homophobia was last week. This week I didn't mind Marisol saying that it didn't make sense for Nicholas to keep Opal employed, especially with the way she was making Marisol feel unwelcome which, given the lack of subtlety in this plotline... yeah. I think the show has a problem (just look at that flashback) more than Marisol does. Nicholas was just asking to be

murdered

with that whole talk about the will. I can't believe Opal and Dahlia were actually lovers. This show played that so badly. They played it like a scary one-sided infatuation.

 

I really like the way things got turned around with Zoila dating another maid's employer. See, this is the interesting stuff that barely happens with all the switching partners. Most of the plotlines are about romance. Though I did like Carmen reminding Spence about his affair with Rosie when he was going on about Carmen and Ty.

 

"You must be very happy." "Are you talking to me?" "At some point I must have given you the impression that I enjoy small talk with the help. And that's not the case. Will you please accept my apology as you leave to scrub my toilet?" And this is why I will love Evelyn forever and ever.

 

I like Javier. Can we keep him? And can he stay good? I'm tired of all these terrible guys. You know some of us are single and need to be convinced that all guys aren't jerks. Though sneaky Reggie is kind of fun. 

 

Hell, she SAW, it, but I would have hoped she would know Spence better than that.  I guess he has not earned the benefit of the doubt.

Yeah, Spence is not the greatest guy in the world so I probably care about this less than the show wants me to. They started ruining his character when he actually got together with Rosie. His intelligence level plummeted and he became more selfish and more of a jerk. Mainly a jerk in a kind of oblivious, unintentional way but he did cheat on his wife, he didn't seem to care much about Miguel, etc. etc. 

[Lavinia]

This episode left me terribly confused, and I haven't read all the previous posts so if this has already been asked and answered forgive me. 

1) Did Valentina ACTUALLY tell Adrian about the affair? We never saw her do it and she seemed pretty surprised herself when he was making that whole anvilicious speech about paranoia in the den.

2) Why was Opal so upset over Nicholas leaving her and Ethan in that ginormous extravagant house of his? What was that talk about the inheritance? Wouldn't Ethan not get Nicholas' money until he's dead ANYWAY, regardless of where they live? Why would she care what roof they're under and run over her boss over it?

Thanks in advance for clarifying these. 

"Sometimes at night I thank god for bringing you into my life"... Oh that sentence could have gone so wrong after "Sometimes at night".

 

 

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH Ok you owe me a new keyboard!!! XD

[aradia22]

 

1) Did Valentina ACTUALLY tell Adrian about the affair? We never saw her do it and she seemed pretty surprised herself when he was making that whole anvilicious speech about paranoia in the den.

I don't think so. We didn't see it in the episode and these things usually don't happen offscreen. But Adrian's pretty perceptive and Valentina's an idiot and about as subtle as Marisol when it comes to dropping hints and asking questions. Both of the Powell's were immediately on to her.

 

2) Why was Opal so upset over Nicholas leaving her and Ethan in that ginormous extravagant house of his? What was that talk about the inheritance? Wouldn't Ethan not get Nicholas' money until he's dead ANYWAY, regardless of where they live? Why would she care what roof they're under and run over her boss over it?

No idea. A lot of stuff about this plotline doesn't make sense or is played weirdly. Here are some thoughts though. Maybe Opal wants to continue punishing Nicholas. Maybe she feels more secure being able to keep an eye on him. Maybe she's worried about how she's going to maintain the house, even with the severance check. Maybe the check wouldn't be enough to support herself without the job... somehow. As for the will, maybe Opal is worried that she won't be able to take care of Ethan until he gets the money in the will. Maybe she is afraid that Nicholas will change his will, particularly with the influence Marisol clearly has over him. Maybe she has some attachment to the house (hopefully there's another better secret... probably not). 

 

My opinion is that she wants to keep an eye on Nicholas because they're locked in this mutually assured destruction. She likes living in the house and maybe she does associate it with getting taken in when she was pregnant (It's possible some of her lie to Marisol was true). You would think that with a generous check, Opal's concerns would vanish but evidently she's determined to get Ethan the $5 million and I think she's worried that Marisol might talk Nicholas into rewriting his will. Running him over is insurance that Nicholas will not break their deal, can't hurt her, and that Ethan gets the money.

 

By the way, I'm going to be upset if Nicholas is alive but they couldn't spare Alejandro.

[Lavinia]

Nicholas was just asking to be

murdered

with that whole talk about the will.

Do you know for sure he 

dies from the car accident

? Is that why you spoiler-tagged it?