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Pool and Open Water Swimming: Do Not Swallow the Water

selkie

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sab85
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"Nathan,  what happened with this swim?" [Mind you,  he had just won a bronze medal] "Well I didn't have the fastest time in the pool" Love it.  I wish all the athletes would answer stupid q

Daisy
Daisy

History you guys: we share a border and an olympic record and history.   

TobinAlbers
TobinAlbers

Gotta love Cody Miller's whooping it up with his personal best and placing bronze. He was high fiving and punching the air like he won gold. Too cute.

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selkie

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I like Ryan. He's by all account a good guy and USA Swimming is very lucky that both him and Michael Phelps are active stakeholders who want to continue to grow the sport in both America and globally after they retire. But as his reality showed, he's probably not the sharpest crayon in the box.

 

(As for selkies, I think they'd probably get taken out by Rio's missing sewage treatment system)

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Michael retired, got bored, started up back in the water, qualified for the 2015 World Championships, was removed from that international team by USA swimming after he pleaded guilty to a DUI charge, got sober, had a kid with his fiancee, and a few weeks back, got his athlete ticket to Rio at  the US Trials.

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Phebemarie

Phebemarie

Am I the only one who thinks that an Olympian who went out of his way to distract and embarrass a college basketball player doesn't really exemplify "good sportsmanship"?  

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/14670378/michael-phelps-featured-arizona-state-sun-devils-curtain-distraction

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catray

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I think it's hilarious. It's a college bball thing... and it's typical for crowds to try and distract players when they make free throws by chanting and waving their arms. ASU started it this past season (I believe) and when they played my alma mater, they had a whole Harry Potter themed night. I thought it was great fun. It's not like Phelps just showed up; he was invited by the student section as he is there training while Bowman coaches the swim team. I guess you could say it's obnoxious, but I think it's pretty creative.

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tanyak

tanyak

1 hour ago, KenyaJ said:

Not to mention that every student section in the country actively tries to disrupt the shooter. It's not bad sportsmanship, it's just sports. (Disclaimer: I went to Duke. We're not allowed to graduate if we haven't harassed an opposing basketball player at one point or another.)

I went to Carolina. We aren't either. Grayson Allen truly is the gift that keeps giving. ;)

Yeah, I thought the Phelps things was funny, too. 

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Daisy

Daisy

According to NBCOlympics - 
Finals start at 9:00pm ET 
with heats and semis starting around noon Eastern. 
(streaming available on olympics.cbc.ca and nbcolympics.com - if you're allowed to)

for the 
Men's 400 IM (heats + final)
Women's 100 Beast (heats)
Women's 400 IM (heats + Final)
Women's Fly (heats + semi)
Men's Breast (heats + semi)
Women's 4x100 (heats + final)
 

Hope that helps!

galaxygirl76

galaxygirl76

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The lady on the Dutch radio(yep, I'm watching NBC while listening to Dutch commentary because there is only so much NBC I can take) said that the Chinese swimmer's final 50m was faster than Lochte's in the men's final so I'm still firmly in camp doping, but this was an amazing swim by Hosszu.

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selkie

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There have been suspicions about Hosszu in recent years. Go to the swim sites and you will find a lot of people who say they wish they could feel better about cheering Katinka on.

I don't know if Ye Shiwen was doping or not in London but the past few years have made me feel a little sorry for her. Enhanced or not, she seems to be one of those girls who, like many a female gymnast or figure skater, gets one golden year at the top between the end of their last growth spurt and hitting puberty and Getting Hips which screwed up her technique (it happens sometimes in swimming- usually with breaststrokers like Amanda Beard but sometimes with freestylers like Janet Evans) and she's had an awful time since London battling injuries and getting criticized in the Chinese sporting press for 'getting fat'.

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selkie

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Actually not as dominating as the Aussies should have been on paper. Bronte's injuries in the past year seem to have cost her a few tenths and McKeon was also slower than she has been. Still that squad at about 97% is still good enough to hold off the overperforming from the heat sheets Americans and Canadians.

Noteworthy 100 splits for the 200 big names:

Sjostrom- 52.47

Ledecky- 52.7

Pellegrini- 53.89

McKeon- 53.4 (flat start)

 

That should be a fun one for fans of the sport in a few days.

Normally I don't cheer for the Aussies- friendly pool rival and all. But I've got to say I was screaming for Horton to beat that punk Sun, who I'd actually like to see vanish down a favela alley.

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KenyaJ

KenyaJ

You'll probably enjoy this tidbit from The Guardian, selkie.

Now this is an interesting wrinkle. Australia’s Mack Horton beat Sun Yang to win the 400m freestyle, and, as AP reports, what happened after the race was even more dramatic.

Horton grabbed the lead for good on the next-to-last lap and held off the hard-charging Sun, the defending Olympic champion. But the bad blood between the two was on display for all to see as Horton celebrated after the race without even acknowledging the runner-up.

In fact, they climbed out of the pool side by side without so much as a passing glance.

After the prelims of the men’s 400 freestyle, Horton was asked about a reported incident between the two at the practice pool earlier in the week. The Aussie said Sun “splashed me to say hello, and I didn’t respond because I don’t have time for drug cheats.”

Sun served a three-month suspension for using a banned stimulant in 2014.

 

 

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selkie

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I noticed the lack of congratulations between Sun & Horton and it was no accidental oversight. Sun does not have many friends outside China and he's only tolerated within China as long he produces results. (The Chinese federation has suspended him for bad behavior a few times, and he spent a week in jail in 2013 for unlicensed driving without the federation asking for a lighter sentence for him.)

Given that most swimmers are actually quite good at hiding cut throat competitiveness behind politeness, it's actually kind of fun to have a proper villain in the sport right now.

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Daisy

Daisy

Swimming Events Tomorrow: (bold = medal event)
Heats start at 12:00pm for: M+W 100 backstoke, M 200 Free, W 400 Free, M 4x100 Free

9:00pm 
W 100m butterfly final
M 200m freestyle semi
W 100m backstroke semi
M 100m breaststroke final
W 400m freestyle final
M 100m backstroke semi 
M 4x100m freestyle relay final

Hope that helps! :) 
 

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NUguy514

NUguy514

6 hours ago, selkie said:

Normally I don't cheer for the Aussies- friendly pool rival and all. But I've got to say I was screaming for Horton to beat that punk Sun, who I'd actually like to see vanish down a favela alley.

Same here.  That was the best result of the day, as far as I'm concerned.

I'm suspicious about Hosszu.  I'll just leave it at that.

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Rinaldo

Rinaldo

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Who are the commentators for the streaming of this afternoon's heats? (I wish the site would just provide the info beside the link, and why can't they just announce on the air "I'm X" when they start? Oh well.) He addressed her as "Nicole" at one point, but I haven't heard a name for him. He doesn't sound like my old pal Steve Robilliard from 2012.

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Rinaldo

Rinaldo

Did I understand the announcers right -- that rules have changed for relays, specifically deciding at the last minute who will swim? Teams now have to declare in advance what their final lineup will be (though it can be a switch from the prelims, as before), and not deviate from it? They said that Nathan Adrian would be swimming the final 4x100 freestyle, and this had to be committed to in advance.

selkie

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The rule change is that if you send a swimmer to the Olympics that is only there to swim relays and is not entered in any individual events, you must swim that athlete in either prelims or finals (if they make the finals). This was to prevent swimmers who ended up not swimming from taking up  very dear quota spots. There is a medical exception that you can drive a truck through and all if you have a friendly doctor and a willingness to claim food poisoning or something.

The announcer was incorrect- Adrian does not have to swim the relay because he's got individual entries in the 100 and 50 free and is therefore not a 'relay-only' guy. But since he's fastest guy they've got, he will be there.

As for line-ups for relays, there has always been a set time before the start of each session by which you had to submit a 'relay card'  with your swimmers in order so the meet management could get everything properly into the system.

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