Current Timeline: News and Media

[bros402]

14 hours ago, iMonrey said:

Because if NBC is still considering another 10-episode order for next spring/early summer like they did with this season, then they're in no hurry. They don't need Sony to start filming right away if the show isn't going to air until next May. I'd like to know how long they've got, though, before the options on everyone's contracts expire. Maybe NBC doesn't even care about that. They might figure, heck, if they can't get back some of the original actors, no big deal, they'll just get other actors. Clearly NBC just doesn't care that much one way or the other. 

The contracts for shows usually expire June 30

[shapeshifter]

On May 24, 2018 at 6:18 PM, ParadoxLost said:

Another hypothesis I have is that they are waiting to see how Reverie does next week.  Maybe they are holding one mid season or summer slot and its down to those two.  Hostage negotiator who saves people lost in virtual reality seems like the closest genre competition to Timeless that the network has.

 

4 hours ago, bros402 said:

The contracts for shows usually expire June 30

Reverie premieres this evening.
So if the renewal of Timeless does in large part hinge on how well Reverie does, how would that work?
We've seen terrible pilots followed by 8 or so fabulous episodes, and also the opposite of an awesome pilot followed by lackluster episodes.
Should we assume they would give Reverie at least 2 episodes before making a decision to renew Timeless as a possible replacement?

[Maximum Taco]

On 5/29/2018 at 12:50 AM, redpencil said:

I have no idea what's going on, but I'm not sure why NBC would tell them it was cancelled for them to shop around and everyone would keep that quiet. That doesn't seem to be how this ever works. Most of the shows I've heard of that ended up somewhere else (or even were shopped and then didn't) were publicly cancelled first (including Brooklyn 99 and The Expanse, both this season). Wouldn't it make it easier to shop if everyone was aware it was cancelled, and you could also rely on fan/media publicity? And NBC wouldn't cancel it and then tell the show runners not to say anything.

To me, either NBC has decided to cancel it and is just putting off telling anyone (including those behind the show itself), or they haven't 100% decided yet. The former would seem weird to me (--plenty of popular shows have gotten cancelled, and networks deal with the fan backlash just fine). Why risk potentially damaging your position with the studio by putting it off so long?

I honestly don't think NBC has decided yet. I was in the camp that thought they were just waiting for the right time to break the news, but if they wanted to quietly dump the news and let the fan backlash burn itself out the best opportunity for that would've been the Friday of Memorial Weekend. Here we are next Wednesday, and we're still in limbo. 

It seems much more likely that they are deciding between Timeless and another show (possibly Reverie like several people here suggested) for a mid season premiere in 2019 and they for whatever reason haven't been able to decide yet. If it is in fact Reverie that could take Timeless' slot, it's because Reverie hasn't started airing yet (Season Premiere is tonight)  and they want to take a look at the initial ratings before making a decision on which show they'd like to move forward with. Unfortunately Reverie probably has the tie breaker on Timeless here because it's produced by NBCUniversal. 

1 hour ago, shapeshifter said:

 

Reverie premieres this evening.
So if the renewal of Timeless does in large part hinge on how well Reverie does, how would that work?
We've seen terrible pilots followed by 8 or so fabulous episodes, and also the opposite of an awesome pilot followed by lackluster episodes.
Should we assume they would give Reverie at least 2 episodes before making a decision to renew Timeless as a possible replacement?

Audience retention is perhaps more important than initial ratings. I'd assume they atleast wait until episode 2 before making a decision, maybe even longer. As mentioned above though, Reverie is gonna have the tie breaker here though, since NBCUniversal produces and distributes the show. For NBC to pick them, Timeless has to be a markedly better bet, honestly Reverie could even win this fight with slightly lower ratings. 

Edited May 30, 2018 by Maximum Taco

[3girlsforus]

15 hours ago, legaleagle53 said:

Today's deleted scene.  Just a little something for the Garcy shippers:

This is a great scene. Goran really hit it out of the park. Just little hints of him being a regular person before he hopped on the crazy train. 

[ParadoxLost]

10 hours ago, Maximum Taco said:

It seems much more likely that they are deciding between Timeless and another show (possibly Reverie like several people here suggested) for a mid season premiere in 2019 and they for whatever reason haven't been able to decide yet. If it is in fact Reverie that could take Timeless' slot, it's because Reverie hasn't started airing yet (Season Premiere is tonight)  and they want to take a look at the initial ratings before making a decision on which show they'd like to move forward with. Unfortunately Reverie probably has the tie breaker on Timeless here because it's produced by NBCUniversal. 

Audience retention is perhaps more important than initial ratings. I'd assume they atleast wait until episode 2 before making a decision, maybe even longer. As mentioned above though, Reverie is gonna have the tie breaker here though, since NBCUniversal produces and distributes the show. For NBC to pick them, Timeless has to be a markedly better bet, honestly Reverie could even win this fight with slightly lower ratings. 

At this point, I'm thinking that Reverie has the slot and they feel so stupid about changing their mind last year that someone just want to see the premiere of Reverie to make sure its not such a disaster that they feel like they need to change their mind.

It doesn't seem like they can drag this out to also check episode retention.  That would be an insane amount of time after upfronts to decide but I guess that is already true.

ABC has a Roseanne size whole in the schedule.  Maybe some creative type can come up with a way to leverage Timeless to buy them time to fix their schedule problem.  They can also spin Timeless's good press on treatment of underrepresented historical figures to make a counterpoint to the Roseanne tweets.  I'm only half kidding. If I did fan campaigns, which I don't, I'd add this to the mix even if its unlikely Timeless could go to ABC.  It would likely gain a little traction if it trended enough because it gives another way to for the media to drag out the story on the Roseanne cancellation and put some positive out their on Timeless diversity.

[Free]

1 hour ago, ParadoxLost said:

ABC has a Roseanne size whole in the schedule.  Maybe some creative type can come up with a way to leverage Timeless to buy them time to fix their schedule problem.  They can also spin Timeless's good press on treatment of underrepresented historical figures to make a counterpoint to the Roseanne tweets.  I'm only half kidding. If I did fan campaigns, which I don't, I'd add this to the mix even if its unlikely Timeless could go to ABC.  It would likely gain a little traction if it trended enough because it gives another way to for the media to drag out the story on the Roseanne cancellation and put some positive out their on Timeless diversity.

Roseanne was a half hour comedy so the hole would be much different and that's mostly a different situation altogether though, they have recently floated around the possibility of a Middle spinoff or a Roseanne-less show altogether with the rest of the cast.

1 hour ago, ParadoxLost said:

At this point, I'm thinking that Reverie has the slot and they feel so stupid about changing their mind last year that someone just want to see the premiere of Reverie to make sure its not such a disaster that they feel like they need to change their mind.

It doesn't seem like they can drag this out to also check episode retention.  That would be an insane amount of time after upfronts to decide but I guess that is already true.

I think it was Shades of Blue being taken out is what gave this show the Sunday slot and that's probably because it was ending and used this show as midseason filler instead.

As for Reverie, that felt like a reject they just dumped in Summer because they didn't like it or something negatively happened during the development process.

Honestly it doesn't seem like it would do well either way so I'm not sure what their expectations are, it's Summer and scripted shows (especially) usually don't fare well.

It's usually unscripted shows like Big Brother, America's Got Talent, or American Ninja Warrior that thrives here.

Edited May 31, 2018 by Free

[North of Eden]

I don't understand why someone in the press doesn't simply ask the NBC media office point blank what is happening with TIMELESS.

[Free]

33 minutes ago, North of Eden said:

I don't understand why someone in the press doesn't simply ask the NBC media office point blank what is happening with TIMELESS.

People have asked, repeatedly, especially for this show.

The problem is that NBC isn't giving them any answers.

[legaleagle53]

3 hours ago, Free said:

As for Reverie, that felt like a reject they just dumped in Summer because they didn't like it or something negatively happened during the development process.

Honestly it doesn't seem like it would do well either way so I'm not sure what their expectations are, it's Summer and scripted shows (especially) usually don't fare well.

From what I've heard, the critics who have seen the pilot for Reverie aren't impressed.  And even TVGuide weighed in and said that Reverie is no Timeless (and then ended with a direct message to NBC:  Renew Timeless!).

By the way, today's deleted scene:

 

[Quilt Fairy]

16 hours ago, Maximum Taco said:

Audience retention is perhaps more important than initial ratings

Started watching Reverie and it didn't retain me to the first commercial break.

[bros402]

6 hours ago, Free said:

Roseanne was a half hour comedy so the hole would be much different and that's mostly a different situation altogether though, they have recently floated around the possibility of a Middle spinoff or a Roseanne-less show altogether with the rest of the cast.

I think it was Shades of Blue being taken out is what gave this show the Sunday slot and that's probably because it was ending and used this show as midseason filler instead.

As for Reverie, that felt like a reject they just dumped in Summer because they didn't like it or something negatively happened during the development process.

Honestly it doesn't seem like it would do well either way so I'm not sure what their expectations are, it's Summer and scripted shows (especially) usually don't fare well.

It's usually unscripted shows like Big Brother, America's Got Talent, or American Ninja Warrior that thrives here.

From what I remember reading about Reverie, it had a lot of issues during production, so it only has a 10 episode season. It was originally supposed to be a January premiere, then a March premiere, then after everything else had ended in May.

I think if Reverie performs a bit weaker, NBC would prefer a show with a strong fan presence (Timeless) to a show that has had a troubled production before it ever premiered.

Well... I hope, anyway.

[Free]

5 hours ago, bros402 said:

From what I remember reading about Reverie, it had a lot of issues during production, so it only has a 10 episode season. It was originally supposed to be a January premiere, then a March premiere, then after everything else had ended in May.

I think if Reverie performs a bit weaker, NBC would prefer a show with a strong fan presence (Timeless) to a show that has had a troubled production before it ever premiered.

Well... I hope, anyway.

I think it's because NBC had no faith in Reverie at all, hence why it got dumped in Summer.

[3girlsforus]

Just in case the speculation about Reverie is correct, when and how do we find out how well it did?

[dbklmt]

1 hour ago, 3girlsforus said:

Just in case the speculation about Reverie is correct, when and how do we find out how well it did?

It didn't do well at all.  

Closing NBC’s night, Reverie‘s launch only retained 2.9 mil and a 0.6 — or about half of its lead-in — placing second in its time slot (behind CBS’ Code Black which has been canceled). (NBC notes that Reverie equaled last summer’s demo average in the time slot, which was largely filled by This Is Us reruns.) TVLine readers gave the first episode an average grade of “B.”

http://tvline.com/2018/05/31/reverie-ratings-season-1-premiere-nbc/

[legaleagle53]

2 hours ago, dbklmt said:

It didn't do well at all.  

Closing NBC’s night, Reverie‘s launch only retained 2.9 mil and a 0.6 — or about half of its lead-in — placing second in its time slot (behind CBS’ Code Black which has been canceled). (NBC notes that Reverie equaled last summer’s demo average in the time slot, which was largely filled by This Is Us reruns.) TVLine readers gave the first episode an average grade of “B.”

http://tvline.com/2018/05/31/reverie-ratings-season-1-premiere-nbc/

It sounds as though Reverie isn't long for this world, which is bad for it but presumably good for Timeless.

I almost forgot -- today's deleted scene (featuring young Denise):

Edited June 1, 2018 by legaleagle53

[wanderingstar]

Quote

It didn't do well at all.  

I watched the first episode, and it didn't resonate with me, even though it's technically the kind of show I should be into. The premise is muddled and the characters are paper thin. So not surprised it didn't do well.

[Moxie Cat]

On 5/31/2018 at 2:38 AM, bros402 said:

It was originally supposed to be a January premiere, then a March premiere, then after everything else had ended in May.

That's what happened last year with TNT's "Will," and if you watched it (unfortunately, as I did), you understood why.

(Apologies to the "Will" fans - I did like parts of it.)

[shapeshifter]

On 5/30/2018 at 10:34 PM, legaleagle53 said:

By the way, today's deleted scene:

 

Too bad they cut this one. Very moving backstory. 
Lucy: "OMG, that's Rudy Giuliani!"
Hah! IMO, it would've been great "with recent events." It might have given the show some additional buzz. 
But, yeah, I can see where they might have worried about the wrong kind of buzz. Still, I think Giuliani's appearance was pretty vanilla, and they should've made an effort to leave it in. 

[legaleagle53]

Here's yesterday's deleted scene:

[legaleagle53]

And just when I thought I'd seen it all, I just heard about this from Patterson Joseph, who is telling people not to contribute to it:

https://www.thunderclap.it/projects/70323-crowdfund-more-timeless

[Maximum Taco]

19 hours ago, legaleagle53 said:

And just when I thought I'd seen it all, I just heard about this from Patterson Joseph, who is telling people not to contribute to it:

https://www.thunderclap.it/projects/70323-crowdfund-more-timeless

I've never seen it done spontaneously. But I have seen something like this. 

The Veronica Mars movie got made through some kind of crowdfund/kickstarter thing (but that was started by creator and producer Rob Thomas), as have a lot of high production webseries like Wil Wheaton's Tabletop. 

Nathan Fillion also jokingly suggested something like it for Firefly IIRC and got everyone riled up before he backed down and said that it's simply unfeasible. That also might be what Paterson Joseph is saying, something like Veronica Mars (minimal effects and stunts, not many sets needed, about a 2 hour runtime etc.) is possible to do via crowdfunding, main costs are gonna be towards paying people, and if its a pet project the actors might be willing to work for less, something like Firefly or Timeless, you'd need a huge sum of money, and you can't just pay less for effects and stunts.

Edited June 3, 2018 by Maximum Taco

[legaleagle53]

Yesterday's deleted scene, featuring Emma:

There's only one more deleted scene left from Season 2, and the writers are now talking about possibly releasing script pages after the last deleted scene has been released.  They're currently taking requests.

[iRarelyWatchTV36]

I applaud the writers for going out of their way to keep interest going, instead of 'taking time off' to wait & see.

Whoever is behind this hold up in renewal/cancellation news can go suck an egg.  I hate being held hostage.

I'm getting ready for my summer shows to start up here in 2-3 weeks, so here's hoping they get off their asses and have some news by then.

[KaveDweller]

8 hours ago, Maximum Taco said:

I've never seen it done spontaneously. But I have seen something like this. 

The Veronica Mars movie got made through some kind of crowdfund/kickstarter thing (but that was started by creator and producer Rob Thomas), as have a lot of high production webseries like Wil Wheaton's Tabletop. 

Nathan Fillion also jokingly suggested something like it for Firefly IIRC and got everyone riled up before he backed down and said that it's simply unfeasible. That also might be what Paterson Joseph is saying, something like Veronica Mars (minimal effects and stunts, not many sets needed, about a 2 hour runtime etc.) is possible to do via crowdfunding, main costs are gonna be towards paying people, and if its a pet project the actors might be willing to work for less, something like Firefly or Timeless, you'd need a huge sum of money, and you can't just pay less for effects and stunts.

With Veronica Mars, it was for a movie, and the creator had gotten an agreement with their production company that if they could raise X amount of money, they would handle the distribution/marketing. And the actors had agreed to do the project and they had a script idea and some sense of budget and all that. I think some shows that have followed have had similar agreements in place.

It sounds like this is just a fan suggesting people donate money without any kind of communication with the producers/actors/network. I get that he's trying to show fan support, but it really doesn't seem like it will accomplish anything. 

[legaleagle53]

And here's a twofer:  First, the last deleted Season 2 Scene: 

But wait -- there's more! Here's the first released script page from the Bonnie & Clyde episode, the scene with Lyatt's first kiss:

Did you notice the very clever "#RENEWTIMELESS" in the upper right corner of the page?  Well played, writers!

[iRarelyWatchTV36]

I didn't watch Chuck live until about mid-S4, but I feel like I am getting a taste of what all those fans went through from season to season in the offseason of its first 4.

NBC's the broadcasting network for both shows, so I guess there shouldn't really be any real surprise.  Come to the think of it, seaQuest was on the peacock network too.   *muttering* sonofa-

...... why is it that good sci-fi shows - and myself, since I get screwed in the process - always get the shaft?

[shapeshifter]

14 hours ago, Maximum Taco said:

On June 2, 2018 at 1:13 PM, legaleagle53 said:

And just when I thought I'd seen it all, I just heard about this from Patterson Joseph, who is telling people not to contribute to it:

https://www.thunderclap.it/projects/70323-crowdfund-more-timeless

I've never seen it done spontaneously. But I have seen something like this. 

The Veronica Mars movie got made through some kind of crowdfund/kickstarter thing (but that was started by creator and producer Rob Thomas), as have a lot of high production webseries like Wil Wheaton's Tabletop. 

Nathan Fillion also jokingly suggested something like it for Firefly IIRC and got everyone riled up before he backed down and said that it's simply unfeasible. That also might be what Paterson Joseph is saying

and also PJ is likely trying to warn away fans from sending money to another—perhaps opportunistic—"fan" who will raise a few thousand dollars, which will not fund even another episode. I hope "Sam," the Timeless fan from the UK at least has the decency to donate the money to charity, but it's more likely he'll deduct most of it for "expenses."

[legaleagle53]

8 hours ago, shapeshifter said:

and also PJ is likely trying to warn away fans from sending money to another—perhaps opportunistic—"fan" who will raise a few thousand dollars, which will not fund even another episode. I hope "Sam," the Timeless fan from the UK at least has the decency to donate the money to charity, but it's more likely he'll deduct most of it for "expenses."

Yeah, it would be one thing if this had been something that was organized by the showrunners or at least had their express approval, but a spontaneous grassroots thing like this?  That's something else again, and I'm glad that the cast and crew are discouraging it.

[Maximum Taco]

15 hours ago, KaveDweller said:

With Veronica Mars, it was for a movie, and the creator had gotten an agreement with their production company that if they could raise X amount of money, they would handle the distribution/marketing. And the actors had agreed to do the project and they had a script idea and some sense of budget and all that. I think some shows that have followed have had similar agreements in place.

It sounds like this is just a fan suggesting people donate money without any kind of communication with the producers/actors/network. I get that he's trying to show fan support, but it really doesn't seem like it will accomplish anything. 

That's a good point. There's a great chance that the shows that have been crowdfunded did have some kind of of "You raise X amount of dollars and we'll provide the rest!" agreement in place with their distribution networks. 

 

8 hours ago, shapeshifter said:

and also PJ is likely trying to warn away fans from sending money to another—perhaps opportunistic—"fan" who will raise a few thousand dollars, which will not fund even another episode. I hope "Sam," the Timeless fan from the UK at least has the decency to donate the money to charity, but it's more likely he'll deduct most of it for "expenses."

Another good point. I hate to think that cynically but this has a lot of opportunity for someone to abscond with the money. 

Apparently the poor guy who started this has gotten a lot of this kind of talk though, and it seems to have disillusioned him. I hate to think he was just trying to help out, and instead got a bunch of people accusing him of trying to make a quick buck. 

Edited June 4, 2018 by Maximum Taco

[legaleagle53]

17 minutes ago, Maximum Taco said:

Apparently the poor guy who started this has gotten a lot of this kind of talk though, and it seems to have disillusioned him. I hate to think he was just trying to help out, and instead got a bunch of people accusing him of trying to make a quick buck. 

 

I don't think anyone's really accusing him of that, at least not that I'm aware of.  I myself believe that he meant well and was only trying to help.  I just don't think he thought it through, that's all, and I'm glad for his sake, as well as the fans' and the show's, that the cast and crew more or less told him, "We appreciate the effort, but this really isn't the best way to show your support right now."

Edited June 4, 2018 by legaleagle53

[Maximum Taco]

6 minutes ago, legaleagle53 said:

I don't think anyone's really accusing him of that, at least not that I'm aware of.  I myself believe that he meant well and was only trying to help.  I just don't think he thought it through, that's all, and I'm glad for his sake, as well as the fans' and the show's, that the cast and crew more or less told him, "We appreciate the effort, but this really isn't the best way to show your support right now."

 

I checked out his twitter link from the crowdfund post. Some of his recent tweets are like "I AM NOT OUT TO GET YOUR MONEY!"

But it could be that he just misunderstood what everyone was trying to say about his gesture. I'm sure the cast wasn't accusing him of being a thief, moreso they just don't want the fans wasting their money in what will ultimately be a futile gesture because they know a few thousand isn't going to sway NBC. 

Edited June 4, 2018 by Maximum Taco

[Free]

17 hours ago, iRarelyWatchTV36 said:

...... why is it that good sci-fi shows - and myself, since I get screwed in the process - always get the shaft?

Because these shows are usually niche and not mainstream enough, especially for broadcast television, so basically the big networks like ABC, CBS, NBC, and FOX.

They either usually get sampled before dropping off hard later on or are low to begin with and stays that way.

[iRarelyWatchTV36]

4 hours ago, Free said:

Because these shows are usually niche and not mainstream enough, especially for broadcast television, so basically the big networks like ABC, CBS, NBC, and FOX.

They either usually get sampled before dropping off hard later on or are low to begin with and stays that way.

And yet repetitive procedurals - ala Law & Order(s), NCIS, CSI, Criminal Minds, etc - get 20 to 30 seasons.

Its the same things every season with those shows, with the only changes being supporting/guest-star faces, names and places.  Yet these shows keep getting the numbers to stay on the air year after year, after year, after year and so on.

[Free]

1 hour ago, iRarelyWatchTV36 said:

And yet repetitive procedurals - ala Law & Order(s), NCIS, CSI, Criminal Minds, etc - get 20 to 30 seasons.

Its the same things every season with those shows, with the only changes being supporting/guest-star faces, names and places.  Yet these shows keep getting the numbers to stay on the air year after year, after year, after year and so on.

The audience is there, hence the longevity.

For other shows, it's a much more uphill struggle to get much traction outside a fanbase, which is usually niche.

[legaleagle53]

Today's script release -- the entire last scene of Episode 210:

[iRarelyWatchTV36]

I'm wishy-washy.  I am kind of swinging back in the other direction now... in that I think the show will be renewed, its just taking time to hammer out some thing (like budget issues, etc).

Why would the writers keep interest up if they felt like the show's chances were absolutely dead in the water?

Call me cynical - cause I am - but I think there's too much work being done by the staff to keep interest up, for a dying/dead show.

(here's to really hoping this current 'gut feeling' turns out to be right)

[legaleagle53]

Today's script release -- the Flynn/Lucy conversation from Episode 2x06, and apparently, it's generated a bit of controversy in that it seems to have inadvertently touched off a shipper war at precisely the wrong time:

[Lieutenant]

Surprise, surprise. Twitter ruins everything.  

That said, the two most recent released scripts seem to indicate the writers are definitely/deliberately laying some groundwork for Garcy. 

[bros402]

5 hours ago, iRarelyWatchTV36 said:

I'm wishy-washy.  I am kind of swinging back in the other direction now... in that I think the show will be renewed, its just taking time to hammer out some thing (like budget issues, etc).

Why would the writers keep interest up if they felt like the show's chances were absolutely dead in the water?

Call me cynical - cause I am - but I think there's too much work being done by the staff to keep interest up, for a dying/dead show.

(here's to really hoping this current 'gut feeling' turns out to be right)

Could also be waiting for the Ep2 numbers for Reverie (airs Wednesday)

[Free]

6 hours ago, bros402 said:

Could also be waiting for the Ep2 numbers for Reverie (airs Wednesday)

I'm not sure what they're expecting, they clearly had no faith in this show as they dumped it in Summer and it was already dead on arrival when it premiered as expected.

[legaleagle53]

A Triple Treat today:  First, today's script release from the pilot:

Next, some original proposed designs for the lifeboat and the mothership, courtesy of Eric Kripke:

And finally, a couple of behind-the-scenes videos, from Malcom Barrett:

I have never seen a show go out of its way like this to delight and motivate its fanbase before, have you?

Edited June 7, 2018 by legaleagle53

[bros402]

17 hours ago, Free said:

I'm not sure what they're expecting, they clearly had no faith in this show as they dumped it in Summer and it was already dead on arrival when it premiered as expected.

Yeah, but I believe NBC owns Reverie - so if it carries a good percentage of viewers from the pilot, they would probably keep it over an unowned show.

[iRarelyWatchTV36]

22 hours ago, legaleagle53 said:

A Triple Treat today:  First, today's script release from the pilot:

I have never seen a show go out of its way like this to delight and motivate its fanbase before, have you?

I only follow (IE, care) about shows I like, so its possible that other shows' writers/producers have done similarly.... but yes, AFAIK, I've never seen a shows' TPTB go out of their way to keep fans' interest peaked during the offseason and/or waiting for the thumb's-up on renewal.

[3girlsforus]

Any idea how Reverie did yesterday?

[legaleagle53]

4 minutes ago, 3girlsforus said:

Any idea how Reverie did yesterday?

Not great. Only 2.22 million viewers and a 0.5/2 share.

[bros402]

4 hours ago, legaleagle53 said:

Not great. Only 2.22 million viewers and a 0.5/2 share.

isn't that below the series low for Timeless?

[Free]

5 hours ago, bros402 said:

isn't that below the series low for Timeless?

Timeless' series low was 2x08 with 2.23 million viewers and a 0.5/2 share, so just barely in viewership.

Again, not sure what NBC was expecting for a Summer dump that they obviously had no faith in to begin with.

[Mrs. DuRona]

I had a dream last night that Timeless was renewed, and announced on Twitter with a BTS picture of Agent Christopher.  I was so sad when I woke up this morning and it wasn't true. :(  I'll admit, my passion has waned a little bit - not posting as much, but at this point I just wish we'd know either way.  I do appreciate all the BTS and interaction the writers, cast & crew have had, though.

[iRarelyWatchTV36]

10 hours ago, Mrs. DuRona said:

I had a dream last night that Timeless was renewed, and announced on Twitter with a BTS picture of Agent Christopher.  I was so sad when I woke up this morning and it wasn't true. :(  I'll admit, my passion has waned a little bit - not posting as much, but at this point I just wish we'd know either way.  I do appreciate all the BTS and interaction the writers, cast & crew have had, though.

12 Monkeys' final season starts a week from now (about an hour ago) and then a couple weeks after it, Killjoys' s4 starts.  Not to mention living life in general.

So, if they keep dragging this out, I'll check in periodically to check for news, but most of my interest will be elsewhere.

Edited June 9, 2018 by iRarelyWatchTV36

[Maximum Taco]

On 6/6/2018 at 10:36 PM, legaleagle53 said:

I have never seen a show go out of its way like this to delight and motivate its fanbase before, have you?

Community had a lot of interaction with its fanbase. Deliberately working in bits that their fans came up with, and frequently poking gently at them. 

I've never seen a show this motivated to get renewed though. At the same time I can't recall a time that a network has kept a show dangling this long with no news. 

Edited June 10, 2018 by Maximum Taco