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21 hours ago, oakville said:

Joe's last appearance on the show was at 7:30 am. He ignored important guests including a federal judge who had a child that was murdered outside their home.

I thought the judge was courageous and compelling. Her story is heartbreaking. But I was annoyed by Mika then trying to link her tragedy to Facebook, because I believe the man who murdered her son had been a disgruntled litigant in her courtroom, not some random radical (although he was radical - it's just that there was more of a connection than Mika acknowledged).

 

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Friday Recap with sweater Joe.

The how opened with a clip of President Trump yelling about his Justice Dept. Bide said it was the people's justice department.

Joe was sarcastic about Trump calling it is his army, & his generals.

Mika is wearing black.

Kasie ! agreed to stay on the show.

Mika is upset that 2,800 people died yesterday.

Joe's new talking point that everyday is a 9/11.

Joe reminded viewers that Trump was wrong about the severity of the virus.

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Mika 's cry talking began at 6 04 AM. Mika moaned about Trump not telling people to wear a mask every day. He should attend the virus briefing.

Mika blamed people for not taking the virus seriously.

Joe said that Dr Fauci said the worst is yet to come. Joe blasted Republican governor who didn't wear masks. .

Joe complained about Democrat officials going to Cabo San Lucas timeshares while asking people to stay home

Joe loves ranting about Democrats

Joe invited the entire Morning Joe audience to go to the French Laundry restaurant in San Francico & eat Mac & Cheese.

Joe called it corrosive.

Willie said it was hypocrisy.

Biden's plan is to ask Americans to wear a mask for 100 days. Will Mika & Joe wear a mask on air ?

Mika hectored Joe to ask his Republican friends to wear a mask . Joe laughed at Mika. Mika said they were stooges.

Mika is yelling about people being arrogant.

I hope Joe has emergency Publix Sheet Cake in the fridge.

Joe used his Southern Drawl accent to talk about Alabama football.

Mika blasted Joe when his friends stood by President Trump when he wanted Joe arrested for murdering his intern.

Mika said they keeps Joe's son with asthma in a bubble.

Mika is very emotional today.

 

 

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1 minute ago, oakville said:

Joe invited the entire Morning Joe audience to go to the French Laundry restaurant in San Francico & eat Mac & Cheese.

 

 

Mika and Joe should learn that the French Laundry is in the Napa Valley, about 60 miles from SF. (Although their point about political hypocrisy is a good one)

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Mika used her IPAD to air to complain about Pompeo hosting parties at the State Department. They are posing for pictures.

Mika said the invited guests will die. Mika said it should be called "Come on over & get killed". Yikes!

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I know that not everyone knows what a destination the French Laundry is, but I expect national news (?) hosts to be aware of its prestige.  But Mika is squinting at the camera trying to say “Frennnnch Laun——dry?”  while Joe wonders like a boor about le mac-n-cheese it might serve. And no, it is not in S.F. 

Best joke I heard yesterday was “The French Laundry is more expensive than ever—$350 per person and your career.” 

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Kasie said that Mika was the nicest one on Morning Joe. Joe said he was afraid that Mika would strike her after the show.

Mika took a swig of her Starbucks coffee as the camera veered away from her.

Kasie said there is a that a chance that a relief bill can get done before Christmas.

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8 minutes ago, oakville said:

Mika took a swig of her Starbucks coffee

I understood them picking up coffee on the way to 30 Rock, or interns running out to get it.  But someone has to go pick it up and return home when they are broadcasting from home.  Wonder if people recognize them at the store.

Geez.🙁

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Mika said that she doesn't want to see Joe's family & friends again that support Trump.

Joe said go to break Sweetie! Mika said the message from the CDC was "Don't gather & Don't Talk & Don't have a great time!.

Mika crowed about Joe being on the NY Times Best Selling List. Joe said he wanted to see his friends.

Just after this, there was a commercial about a John Grisham NY Times Best Seller Book.

This was very strange.

 

4 minutes ago, Liberty said:

I understood them picking up coffee on the way to 30 Rock, or interns running out to get it.  But someone has to go pick it up and return home when they are broadcasting from home.  Wonder if people recognize them at the store.

Geez.🙁

Mika said that the interns at the Jupiter Studio get them coffee. They sleep in the pool house.

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3 minutes ago, Liberty said:

I understood them picking up coffee on the way to 30 Rock, or interns running out to get it.  But someone has to go pick it up and return home when they are broadcasting from home.  Wonder if people recognize them at the store.

Geez.🙁

It’s possible that they have a stash of cups at home and a product placement deal that gives them pounds of beans.  I always get extra holiday cups.

Or, going to Starbucks might be their version of the French Laundry—just something you have to do.  

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10 minutes ago, freddi said:

It’s possible that they have a stash of cups at home and a product placement deal that gives them pounds of beans.  I always get extra holiday cups.

Or, going to Starbucks might be their version of the French Laundry—just something you have to do.  

Morning Joe used to be sponsored by Starbucks.

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40 minutes ago, oakville said:

Mika blasted Joe when his friends stood by President Trump when he wanted Joe arrested for murdering his intern.

i don't know why this detail bothers me but she was a paid staffer, not an intern... idk, i just hate that this girl and her accomplishments are a punchline. she was a public servant, and deserves to be remembered as that.

i'm #teammika re: joe's friends. not only are people dying, but he literally called joe a murderer. Also he insulted joe's wife and called her ugly, bleeding, crazy, ditzy... like remember last year when joe was basically doing a "Ted Cruz has no balls" rant every week...i mean... 

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11 minutes ago, freddi said:

Or, going to Starbucks might be their version of the French Laundry—just something you have to do.  

to be fair,  it's probably a drive-thru....

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Tom Rogers reminded the panel that Trump came within 44,000 votes in Arizona, Georgia &Wisconsin from having 269 Electoral Votes.

The election would end up in the House of Representatives & Trump would have won.

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6 minutes ago, neona said:

i don't know why this detail bothers me but she was a paid staffer, not an intern... idk, i just hate that this girl and her accomplishments are a punchline. she was a public servant, and deserves to be remembered as that.

i'm #teammika re: joe's friends. not only are people dying, but he literally called joe a murderer. Also he insulted joe's wife and called her ugly, bleeding, crazy, ditzy... like remember last year when joe was basically doing a "Ted Cruz has no balls" rant every week...i mean... 

It's true that Lori was working for Joe in his district office. It was a tragedy that she died. However, Joe should not have gone on Don Imus and joked about killing her.

 

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well this was how Mika described it https://twitter.com/morningmika/status/1265354848268058632

I find this believable because Imus was a fucking asshole, but YMMV. Either way, this girl deserves to rest in peace.

1 hour ago, Eliot said:

SEAN PATRICK MALONEY! If him being the head of the DCCC means I get to see him on Morning Joe every week, I hope he stays the head forever.

this!!! I loved how he struck the perfect balance between friendliness and subtle shade, and standing his ground. those are the best guests, for sure 

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7 minutes ago, neona said:

well this was how Mika described it https://twitter.com/morningmika/status/1265354848268058632

I find this believable because Imus was a fucking asshole, but YMMV. Either way, this girl deserves to rest in peace.

 

Mika didn't listen carefully to Imus. Imus said that Joe told the joke during the commercial break about having sex with the intern & then killing her.

Did Imus make up what Joe said during the commercial break ?

If so, Joe should have immediately denounced Imus & told him that it was no laughing matter.

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Joe complained about Trump bragging that he won 12% of Black vote & 32% of the Hispanic vote.

Joe complained about Republican doing very poorly in the popular vote.

Joe wants the Republicans to reach out to minority voters.

Joe thought that demographic changes would eventually make Arizona & Georgia blue. He thinks Texas will flip in 2024.

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56 minutes ago, oakville said:

Did Imus make up what Joe said during the commercial break ?

Well...yeah, probably? as credibility goes, I'd take Mika over that dumbass Imus any day.

tbh i don't understand this week. they did these amazing, fresh, interesting, shows last week and had like these record-breaking ratings, and then this week it was all funeral parlor, unwashed grandpa sweater, yelling, etc, etc..... it's like...so *easy* to get the simple stuff right! For me, watching Morning Joe is a lot like being a sports fan, like you root for your team...like i cheer when they beat Fox and Fuckers...but I can't stand the constant weirdo self-sabotaging, it's exhausting...

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16 minutes ago, neona said:

Well...yeah, probably? as credibility goes, I'd take Mika over that dumbass Imus any day.

tbh i don't understand this week. they did these amazing, fresh, interesting, shows last week and had like these record-breaking ratings, and then this week it was all funeral parlor, unwashed grandpa sweater, yelling, etc, etc..... it's like...so *easy* to get the simple stuff right! For me, watching Morning Joe is a lot like being a sports fan, like you root for your team...like i cheer when they beat Fox and Fuckers...but I can't stand the constant weirdo self-sabotaging, it's exhausting...

It is remarkable that Morning Joe got 1,389,000 viewers on Tuesday. It did beat Fox & Friends.

http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/showbuzzdailys-top-150-monday-cable-originals-network-finals-11-30-2020.html

The quality of Morning Joe can vary based on the guests.

I was amused by Joe trying to downplay Mika's attacks on his family & friends.

 

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1 minute ago, oakville said:

It is remarkable that Morning Joe got 1,389,000 viewers on Tuesday. It did beat Fox & Friends.

http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/showbuzzdailys-top-150-monday-cable-originals-network-finals-11-30-2020.html

The quality of Morning Joe can vary based on the guests.

I was amused by Joe trying to downplay Mika's attacks on his family & friends.

 

yeah but last week was like 1.5 million... all they have to do is put in some minimal effort, and instead they spend all their energy either trolling the internetz or trying to impress the blue checkmark people.

Maybe think about your real human viewers out there, and how you can brighten their lives...? like who do they think are watching tee-vee at 6 am (3 am on the west coast..)?  it's basically pensioners, students pulling all-nighters, frontline workers, parents of infants, people finishing overnight shifts, alcoholics, insomniacs, misfits... i guess i just wish they would think of all of us with *compassion* right now, and how they can encourage and inspire us, rather than yelling at us and doing performance theater that's not for us, but for their blue checkmark friends. 

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45 minutes ago, neona said:

tbh i don't understand this week. they did these amazing, fresh, interesting, shows last week and had like these record-breaking ratings, and then this week it was all funeral parlor, unwashed grandpa sweater, yelling, etc, etc

Book tour/media blitz is over. Back to same old same old. No need to be nice or upbeat anymore.

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I saw maybe the first 20 minutes or so but I don’t think Meeka did badly in that segment. Yes, Hell has frozen. She seemed serious in not-the-usual way by actually holding her own re people and “friends and family” being idiots. (My word there). Joe laughing was the icing on the cake; and it seemed that they were comfortable with each other in an Old Married Way. I didn’t see the rest of show; may have had to eat my words. Plus I had not had my tea yet.

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1 hour ago, oakville said:

It is remarkable that Morning Joe got 1,389,000 viewers on Tuesday. It did beat Fox & Friends.

http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/showbuzzdailys-top-150-monday-cable-originals-network-finals-11-30-2020.html

The quality of Morning Joe can vary based on the guests.

I was amused by Joe trying to downplay Mika's attacks on his family & friends.

 

It seems like Fox and Friends ratings are way down. I recall from the fairly recent past that the 6am hour fox FaF had a similar number of viewers to MJ, and the 7 and 8am hours were up in the 2 million range (I’m not sure why FaF is split into 3 hours, and MJ has all 3 hours grouped together). It seems like FaF has lost close to a million viewers in a fairly short time. Have they all moved to Newsmax and OAN?

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1 hour ago, cased said:

It seems like Fox and Friends ratings are way down. I recall from the fairly recent past that the 6am hour fox FaF had a similar number of viewers to MJ, and the 7 and 8am hours were up in the 2 million range (I’m not sure why FaF is split into 3 hours, and MJ has all 3 hours grouped together). It seems like FaF has lost close to a million viewers in a fairly short time. Have they all moved to Newsmax and OAN?

I think it is strange that the ratings for Morning Joe are not broken down on a hourly basis. 

 

 

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Joe lectured Sean Patrick Maloney on the Democrats supporting Defunding the Police.

Joe told Democrats to fight back !

Sean said he was gay & won re election in a Trump District. He did not support defunding the police.

Joe laughed nervously. Mika squealed.

Sean said they should stop airing Trump news conferences.

 

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9 hours ago, oakville said:

Mika hectored Joe to ask his Republican friends to wear a mask . Joe laughed at Mika. Mika said they were stooges.

Mika is yelling about people being arrogant.

I guess they forgot about their long Maine getaway this summer. And the trip to the Vineyard. The one where Joe was caught not wearing a mask with Barnicle. For her to call others arrogant is a wee bit sanctimonious. She got to have the giant family and hangers-on vacation while the rest of us were urged not to gather or travel. She got her fun in so she has no problem standing in judgement now. Mika, your arrogance is showing. 

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2 hours ago, plumbago blues said:

I guess they forgot about their long Maine getaway this summer. And the trip to the Vineyard. The one where Joe was caught not wearing a mask with Barnicle. For her to call others arrogant is a wee bit sanctimonious. She got to have the giant family and hangers-on vacation while the rest of us were urged not to gather or travel. She got her fun in so she has no problem standing in judgement now. Mika, your arrogance is showing. 

It was Nantucket, not the Vineyard.

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20 hours ago, cased said:

It seems like Fox and Friends ratings are way down. I recall from the fairly recent past that the 6am hour fox FaF had a similar number of viewers to MJ, and the 7 and 8am hours were up in the 2 million range (I’m not sure why FaF is split into 3 hours, and MJ has all 3 hours grouped together). It seems like FaF has lost close to a million viewers in a fairly short time. Have they all moved to Newsmax and OAN?

Fox is way down as a network.  A lot of viewers were unhappy with the coverage on election night and have consequently switched to Newsmax.  The daytime ratings are down by 32 percent.

https://time.com/5915461/fox-news-ratings-plummet/

The news is less exciting after an election and there are just not as many "must see" moments, unless you count Joe's interviews about President Truman.

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Mika & Joe are back. Joe is wearing a blazer, so it is a serious news day.

Joe is complaining about only 27 Republicans publicly declaring that Biden will be the next President.

Kasie said behind the scenes, Republicans admit to her that Biden is the President Elect.

It was surprising  to see Kasie on set after she was harshly criticized on twitter for applauding Joe Biden's refusal to answer questions.

Mika & Joe usually take a day off for family reasons whenever they say something controversial.

Joe said his family was very worried about radicals taking over America in the 1960's.

Joe is now reading about Asbury in 1967.

Joe compares Trump supporters to radicals in the 1960's.

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god there's a lot of subdued droning today...even when Mika was reading good news about DACA and UK vaccines...but at least we're not being yelled at, heh. I found Joe reading the Joan Didion quotes kinda soothing

17 minutes ago, oakville said:

It was surprising  to see Kasie on set after she was harshly criticized on twitter for applauding Joe Biden's refusal to answer questions.

wait, what happened?

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5 minutes ago, neona said:

god there's a lot of subdued droning today...even when Mika was reading good news about DACA and UK vaccines...but at least we're not being yelled at, heh. I found Joe reading the Joan Didion quotes kinda soothing

wait, what happened?

 

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Steve Coll is worried about Facebook. People are sharing conspiracy theories on Facebook.

Zuckerberg supports free speech. It can be weaponized with people promoting alternate realities.

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Mika and Joe are playing clips of the president's rally in Valdosta, Georgia. 

Mika's sitting there with crossed arms scowling at the camera.  Joe whined about rich guys who think they are victims.  Look in the mirror when you do that Joe.

Joe railed against whiny rich guys who went to Harvard and Yale.

Joe and Mika act depressed and miserable.  Shouldn't they be happy with their friend coming to the WH?  I find it weird that they are unhappy as ever, even when they win.

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dude, why is everything suddenly looking uhhh dark, and purple? and there's...dead vegetation outside the supreme court? is it some sort of reverse chromotherapy? is it just me? Sorry i'm whining lol, i think lockdown has given me some sort of seasonal affective disorder, ugh. 

the Dr Zeke's segment was really interesting re: the distribution issues - I don't think there's been enough discussion around the social implications of gradual vaccinations  - i doubt people who have been vaccinated will agree to continue masking etc while waiting for everyone else. And are there gonna be certificates etc, and won't that create a two-tiered society...ooof.

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Edward Luce and Joe talked about "The Crown."  Joe thinks that the scenes with the queen lecturing Margaret Thatcher are fiction.  Joe said that the queen is not involved in policy making.  Also Joe thinks they portrayed Prince Charles' sex life inaccurately.  

 I've never seen The Crown but isn't the whole show fiction based loosely on fact?  

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Greg Bluestein & Kurt Bardella joined the show. He commented on the Georgia Senate Debate. Warnock will not denounce packing the Supreme Court. Senator Loeffler will not comment on Trump losing the election.

Mika said she followed the debate on twitter. It was flashy with lots of color according to Mika. What does that mean ?It's not HGTV, it's a debate.

 

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Kasie was happy that Pence showed up to swear in Mark Kelly a Senator from Arizona.

Kasie quietly admitted that Perdue got more votes than Trump.

No one wants to anger Trump in Georgia. He is still popular in Georgia. Loeffler doesn't want to upset any potential Republican voters.

Kurt said Trump will do more harm than good. He should stop attacking the Republican Governor.

Kurt admitted that it will be an uphill climb for Democrats to win both seats.

 

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Donnie Deutsh appeared from his dining room. He is wearing a suit. Mika introduced him & went on to read a NY Times article. Did she have a question for him?

After 2 minutes, Donny said that he was watching TV by himself on Saturday night. He was sad that he didn't have a date with Marla Maples.

Donny said whites will be a minority by 2044. They are upset

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Robert Costa said McConnell & Biden are the new power nexus in Washington. They have a long track record of working together. McConnell is working on a new stimulus package.

Leibovich & Costa are interesting guests. I am curious about his Vancouver Canucks banner on his shelf. That is very old.

Joe thanked Robert Costa for letting him promote his book on Washington Week. Mika said it was great! Mika was not allowed on camera for that interview.

Luce said his dad did not like the Crown because it was made up drama.

Luce admitted that it is not a documentary drama. He said that the Queen was portrayed as being mean to Diana & Margaret Thatcher.

He said that Thatcher was portrayed sympathetically & gently in Season 4. His father would disagree.

Joe said the Queen does not lecture PM's on policy.

Luce said that it was true about the Queen having a falling out with Thatcher on sanctions against South Africa but the rest of it was made up.

Britain is stumbling towards Brexit. Boris wants to work with Biden & is afraid of a hard Brexit. There is an argument over fishing rights.

Sharpton is hosting the Triumph awards. Joe has been nominated as an inspiring political singer for his song about George Floyd.

 

 

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