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1 hour ago, teddysmom said:

Anybody else notice no one from Biden campaign makes appearances on Morning Joe? I see Simone Sanders on tv quite a bit. 

Maybe Mika's shriekfest interview wasn't the raging success she thought it was.

I notice Joe Biden is doing a town hall with that inexperienced wannabe Lester Holt tonight, who has not been a Congressman, a lawyer,  nor does he have Joe's contacts within CIA, FBI, NSA, IRS, NASA, IKEA, CVS (drug store where Joe  picks up Mika's Xanax and Vodka) . 

 

I am surprised that two Morning Joe regular guests, Adrienne Elrod & Karine Jeanne Pierre who are working on the Biden campaign don't appear on Morning Joe anymore. Hopefully they will listen to Mika & agree to appear for free once Mika's seminars start up again.

7 minutes ago, SG429 said:

For a top-rated show they seem to be very light on ad buys lately. Breaks seem so infrequent I'm expecting to hear that MJ is brought to you by The John D. and Catherine T. MacArthur Foundation and Viewers Like You.

I think they are trying to get a company that makes hearing aids to sponsor the show so that viewers can hear Joe's rants & Mika's crying. 

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For a top-rated show they seem to be very light on ad buys lately. Breaks seem so infrequent I'm expecting to hear that MJ is brought to you by The John D. and Catherine T. MacArthur Foundation and Viewers Like You.

lmao🤣 "or Listeners". 

Oh god you just reminded me it's almost NPR pledge drive time. 

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10 hours ago, nittanycougar said:

Joe interrupted Mika's interview with Dr. Vin Gupta and told her what questions to ask.  She stared at the camera and seemed kind of pissed at him.  So it's ok for Joe to just take over Mika's interview and make it his own. Joe is such a jerk sometimes.

Perhaps they are on a time-out. I think Joe has forgotten about his support of her KYV shit now that she's not dragging him out to her shaminars, using him as the main draw and conversationalist. If she really believed in her schtick, she'd slap him down with an "Excuse me, Joe, I'm speaking with Dr. Gupta" and keep going. She shows zero signs of a woman of value, IMO. (And really, what kind of interview questions does one expect from her, especially regarding medical issues? Maybe Joe knew it would go nowhere.)

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13 hours ago, oakville said:

Mika & Joe complained that they had several friends in the audience at The Rose Garden. Why didn't they listen to  Mika & Joe ?

It's too bad that Mika & Joe aren't on better terms with President Trump. Joe could have gone to the event and warned everyone to wear a mask & a sweater so they don't catch a cold or Coronavirus. 

 

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Trump returned to the White House. Joe criticized the president for walking out on the portico without a mask.  Willie criticized him for telling people not to be afraid of Covid. 

Joe wants you to know that Covid could be a death sentence.  Joe has friends who never were able to say goodbye to their mother or father.

Joe said the president lied and said Covid was not coming back in the fall.

MIka yelled that she has a family friend who was at the WH for the Barrett announcement.  Mika said that she will blame Trump if her friend gets Covid and dies.  Mika, is stop yelling.

Joe said the president has roid rage.  Joe doesn't know that the steroids that the president is on are not the same ones that baseball players use.  

Mika is wearing a new foundation that is lighter.  She keeps looking at her face in the monitor.

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oakville

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Mika is distraught this morning. Joe said it was outrageously reckless for him to pose for pictures on the Truman balcony.

I hope Joe devotes a chapter in his upcoming book on President Truman to the Truman balcony.

I am amused at how critical Mika & Joe are for Trump doing a photo op of him coming back to the White House.

Mika & Joe used to pose for "glamor shots" together in taxis, bars, convertibles, Nantucket etc while they were married to other people.

The glamour shots had nothing to do with hosting a cable news show about politics.

Joe is wearing the same navy blue sweater. He should pack a few other sweaters while he is in Maine. Don't they have an LL Bean store nearby ?

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oakville

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6 minutes ago, may flowers said:

Serious question - when did Mika become Joe with all the yelling and ranting?  Does she not realize that when she speaks over Joe we can’t hear either of them?  She seems really out of control today which makes Joe seem calm and rational.  And it’s only 15 minutes in...

It started when they were permanently sequestered to the Florida breakfast nook. It wasn't as bad when Mika & Joe were shown to be sitting at the same table. They are still sitting together but are each given their own camera.

No wonder Mika is depressed after each show. It's a bad way to start the day.

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8 minutes ago, oakville said:

 

I am amused at how critical Mika & Joe are for Trump doing a photo op of him coming back to the White House.

Mika & Joe used to pose for "glamor shots" together in taxis, bars, convertibles, Nantucket etc while they were married to other people.

The glamour shots had nothing to do with hosting a cable news show about politics.

And with legs in the air, Oakville!  

And they probably thought they were so precious and smart telling their spouses that they were doing stuff for work.  Gross.

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1 minute ago, oakville said:

It started when they were permanently sequestered to the Florida breakfast nook. It wasn't as bad when Mika & Joe were shown to be sitting at the same table. They are still sitting together but are each given their own camera.

No wonder Mika is depressed after each show. It's a bad way to start the day.

Thank you. She seems to be winding herself up more and more with every passing moment. I rarely watch since their move but all the news has me back. The contrast between the lack of control from Mika with the smoothness of Willie - it’s just jarring. His control makes her look unprofessional. 

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oakville

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Joe talked about his friend who had Covid was wandering around the neighborhood. He was in an altered state. Joe is the leader of the neighborhood watch. He keeps an eye out for everyone's medical affairs.

Joe is worried about Trump being in an altered mental state. Mika wants the Cabinet to invoke the 25th amendment. Mika has dreamed about this since February 2017.

Dr Patel said that Herman Cain died 28 days after being diagnosed even though he felt better.

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oakville

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Joe said he warned Republican Senators in 2006 to separate themselves from George W Bush. He asked them to do it for America.

Joe is excited about the the CNN poll showing Biden leading Trump 57-41.

Joe forgot that he warned the GOP to abandon Trump after the Hollywood Access tape in 2016. I remember how mad that Joe was after the election when Republican Senators Ron Johnson, Pat Toomey & Marco Rubio got re elected despite not listening to Joe.

 

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1 hour ago, nittanycougar said:

What is Joe talking about with black holes?

 

It was one of those Willie & Joe skits where Joe starts discussing a topic that Willie isn't quite sure about. It takes Joe about a minute or two for him to set up the punchline. Willie usually plays along. Mika then gets frustrated & starts discussing another topic.

It's 8 35 am & Mika is still yelling about President Trump. She needs to have some herbal tea or start meditating after the show. It's unhealthy to be this angry .

I find it bizarre that Morning Joe didn't play any clips from last night's town hall with Joe Biden. It was on NBC & MSNBC.

Mika started calling it the seronavirus.

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Mika finally started smiling at 8 40 am because Jonathan Altar discussed the Carter Presidency & the Camp David Accords that her dad was involved in.

Mika almost ran over Menachim Begin with a golf cart at Camp David. Mika could have changed world history.

I think it's a great idea for MSNBC to have someone from the Carter administration on stand by to tell stories about Dr Z.

This will calm down Mika & prevent her from snapping.

Joe joked about debating with Dr Z. It was exhausting.

 

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3 hours ago, nittanycougar said:

MIka yelled that she has a family friend who was at the WH for the Barrett announcement.  Mika said that she will blame Trump if her friend gets Covid and dies.  Mika, is stop yelling.

I wouldn't want a friend who is celebrating overturning Roe v Wade, ACA, same sex marriage, just for starters. But that's just me. 

I see Mika has moved on from cry reading to cry screeching.  You know when someone is making a legitimate point, but they're being so obnoxious about it, you just want to shake them and say "Will you shut the FUCK UP??! I agree with you  for Christ's sake!!

It's Brookings Institute, not Brooking Institution, Mika. She's a doctor, not a mental patient. 

I certainly appreciate Jimmy Carter's presidency, but I'm not quite sure I get Alter's comment re the Camp David talks "And Mika was there!!" FFS man she was ten years old!! At 50 she has nothing of relevance to say re foreign policy, so I'm gonna go out on a limb and bet a  7-8 year old wasn't part of the negotiations. 

Reagan would roll over in his grave if he heard Joe praising Jimmy Carter like that.  Next thing we know Joe will admit Carter didn't bungle the Iran Hostage crisis, that there were multiple moving parts that had to be considered; keeping Iran stable, trying to keep the Ayatolleh from gaining more power, the humanitarian issue of the Shah needing treatment for his cancer, (not excusing his treatment of Iranian people) the Iran foreign minister promising our embassy would be safe,  etc.   The Ayatollah released the hostages immediately after Reagan was sworn into office, just to hurt Carter.   But you know why read about history when you can just make shit up.  Maybe Joe will read Alter's book. 

 

 

 

 

49 minutes ago, oakville said:

Mika is wearing a bracelet on her right hand with what appear to be medical information. There was a bar code . That's weird.

Is Mika receiving medical treatment after the show ?

Like the white bracelet thing they put on you when you're admitted or treated in an ER? 

Maybe she's getting Lucky Charms via IV now. 

57 minutes ago, oakville said:

Joe joked about debating with Dr Z. It was exhausting.

Yeah I bet that's a buzz saw he regrets walking into.  

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2 hours ago, oakville said:

Lemire, Willie & Joe started talking about the 2001 World Series. Lemire was a Diamondbacks fan.

Kasie ! showed up to rescue Mika. She has a gorgeous smile. She joked about baseball. Mika was not amused.

Mika would lose her shit if she saw how much Kasie covered the play offs this morning.  

3 hours ago, may flowers said:

His control makes her look unprofessional. 

THIS!!!  Proof that a professional can talk about any issue without sounding like a raving lunatic. Unless you're Joe Scarborough or Mika Brzezinski. 

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20 minutes ago, teddysmom said:

I wouldn't want a friend celebrating overturning Roe v Wade, ACA, same sex marriage, just for starters. But that's just me. 

I see Mika has moved on from cry reading to cry screeching.  You know when someone is making a legitimate point, but they're being so obnoxious about it, you just want to shake them and say "Will you shut the FUCK UP??! I agree with you  for Christ's sake!!

It's Brookings Institute, not Brooking Institution, Mika. She's a doctor, not a mental patient. 

I certainly appreciate Jimmy Carter's presidency, but I'm not quite sure I get Alter's comment re the Camp David talks "And Mika was there!!" FFS man she was ten years old!! At 50 she has nothing of relevance to say re foreign policy, so I'm gonna go out on a limb and bet a  7-8 year old wasn't part of the negotiations. 

Reagan would roll over in his grave if he heard Joe praising Jimmy Carter like that.  Next thing we know Joe will admit Carter didn't bungle the Iran Hostage crisis, that there were multiple moving parts that had to be considered; keeping Iran stable, trying to keep the Ayatolleh from gaining more power, the humanitarian issue of the Shah needing treatment for his cancer, (not excusing his treatment of Iranian people) the Iran foreign minister promising our embassy would be safe,  etc.   The Ayatollah released the hostages immediately after Reagan was sworn into office, just to hurt Carter.   But you know why read about history when you can just make shit up.  Maybe Joe will read Alter's book. 

 

 

like the white bracelet thing they put on you when you're admitted or treated in an ER? 

Maybe she's getting Lucky Charms via IV now. 

Yeah I bet that's a buzz saw he regrets walking into.  

Yes, Mika was wearing a hospital admittance bracelet.

It's remarkable to see Joe's revisionist history of the Carter administration. I am a few years younger than Mika & I remember my dad complaining about gas lines & inflation in 1979.

Joe used to talk non stop about how Reagan saved America from the Carter malaise & he was starstruck by Reagan while he was in high school. He became a Conservative when he went to college. Joe also told  stories of having the Confederate flag & UK flag in his dorm room because he was a big fan of Margaret Thatcher.

Joe used to call Jimmy Carter weak when he was dealing with Iran. Joe said that Reagan would have never allowed the hostage crisis to go on so long.

I would have loved to watch a tv show with Dr Z debating Joe. He used to call Joe stunningly superficial over his knowledge of the Palestinian _ Israeli peace accord in 2000.

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4 hours ago, nittanycougar said:

MIka yelled that she has a family friend who was at the WH for the Barrett announcement.  Mika said that she will blame Trump if her friend gets Covid and dies.  Mika, is stop yelling.

What about blaming her friend (if blame is needed; wouldn't a real friend just show compassion and kindness?) for thinking it would be a good idea to attend a gathering of non-immediate family members without a mask or distancing? Did her friend not have free will? And again, Mika still trying to bring herself into the topic du jour. She puts the ME into Meeka.  Perfect timing, XOQueens, with the picture of the 2 unmasked elites. 

The fact that she seems to advertise her trips to Maine is more proof that she just doesn't get the big picture. She's afraid and unhinged over the virus yet refuses to stay home and limit exposure. She needs to get off the public stage.

2 hours ago, oakville said:

Mika is wearing a bracelet on her right hand with what appear to be medical information. There was a bar code

Maybe it's her Frequent Flyer barcode, making the trip to Maine a little less of a hassle.

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teddysmom

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5 minutes ago, plumbago blues said:

What about blaming her friend (if blame is needed; wouldn't a real friend just show compassion and kindness?) for thinking it would be a good idea to attend a gathering of non-immediate family members without a mask or distancing? Did her friend not have free will? And again, Mika still trying to bring herself into the topic du jour. She puts the ME into Meeka.  Perfect timing, XOQueens, with the picture of the 2 unmasked elites. 

Exactly. If your "friend" (and I have to wonder if the friend is like the many sources Joe has within every agency of the US Gov't, diplomats at Embassies around the world, ie, imaginary) would go to a gathering with that many people who don't wear masks, maybe they bear some responsibility if they get sick?  Was your "friend who lives in Canada" wearing a mask? 

That being said, they don't think it was the Rose Garden event that caused the spread, that it was the meetings, etc inside the WH.   Not that you couldn't get it being that close outside.  

There's a photo of Barrett standing 2 feet from Tom Tillis. He tested positive. There are others with her family sitting jammed together on the sofas with Trump & his staff in the Oval. Sans masks. 

Boggles the mind. 

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neona

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1 hour ago, plumbago blues said:

What about blaming her friend (if blame is needed; wouldn't a real friend just show compassion and kindness?) for thinking it would be a good idea to attend a gathering of non-immediate family members without a mask or distancing? Did her friend not have free will?

Her friend was probably tested. And then falsely told that everyone else had been tested too, and that being tested means you are definitely negative, and will stay negative, and can do whatever you want. Then subsequently given zero information, in a timely manner, about whether he/she had been exposed and whether, as a result, they'd unwittingly put their friends and family at risk. 

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6 hours ago, oakville said:

Joe said that Trump is roided out!. Joe is talking directly to President Trump.

Joe called Trump morbidly obese. Joe is using schoolyard taunts to President Trump.

"Roided out" is Joe's new buzzword.

This was pretty funny, because it's so damn accurate, and they just...go there. It's so fucking necessary right now, decorum be damned.

Buuut Joe please stop saying "MY house! MY family! MY friends!" when your wife is SITTING RIGHT NEXT TO YOU. It's not 1950, baby. The word you're looking for is "OUR". I judge these old dudes so hard on how they treat their wives. 

Kasie kicked ass this morning. I'm so glad that we still get to see her on MJ

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1 hour ago, teddysmom said:

The ass kissing is strong with this one.  Joe Scarborough can tell time and read a calendar.  Accurately points out that the debate that happened last Tuesday, did not happen at 7:22 am. 

 

I think Kasie definitely wants to take over Mika's job if her contract isn't renewed.

However, the network might be afraid to let Mika go in her fragile state.

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3 minutes ago, oakville said:

I think Kasie definitely wants to take over Mika's job if her contract isn't renewed.

However, the network might be afraid to let Mika go in her fragile state.

I doubt that. I really don't think the women of MSNBC are engaged in any sort of cut-throat survivor style dumb-ass reality show. I'm not saying there aren't things that can be improved, in terms of content, style etc,  but they all seem pretty chill, and supportive of each other.

I'm not awake for all of Kasie's hour, but the 10-15 min I do catch these days have truly been a pleasant surprise. She's a whole lot more versatile and interesting than I would have thought. 

oakville

oakville

13 minutes ago, neona said:

I doubt that. I really don't think the women of MSNBC are engaged in any sort of cut-throat survivor style dumb-ass reality show. I'm not saying there aren't things that can be improved, in terms of content, style etc,  but they all seem pretty chill, and supportive of each other.

I'm not awake for all of Kasie's hour, but the 10-15 min I do catch these days have truly been a pleasant surprise. She's a whole lot more versatile and interesting than I would have thought. 

Mika does not appear on any MSNBC shows other than Morning Joe unless she is trying to sell one of her books or seminars.

Savannah used to have a role similar to Kasie when Morning Joe started . Savannah would be positioned on the White House Lawn in various  weather conditions & have to provide updates to Mika & Joe. Mika often teased Savannah & made fun of her wardrobe when the weather was bad.

Savannah & Chuck Todd  did eventually get promoted &  co hosted the show after Morning Joe. 

Savannah was later promoted to be the co host of the Today show.

Mika did audition for the Today show job but lost to Savannah Guthrie due in part to her poor "Q" ratings.

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Kemper

5 hours ago, oakville said:

 I am a few years younger than Mika & I remember my dad complaining about gas lines & inflation in 1979.

 

I sat in those gas lines for hours; with a toddler.  I would pack toys, snacks, pillow and blanket.  Then they went to odd/even license plate days.  If your license plate ended with an even number, you could get gas on certain days; if it ended with an odd number, you would get it the other days.  It helped the lines a bit; but that put a burden on the employee inside to keep the peace and watch for violators.  It did not always go smoothly.

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oakville

13 minutes ago, Kemper said:

Oakville - I noticed the references to Truman today, too.  How convenient that Trump was out on the Truman Balcony.  All a plot to help sell Joe's book?  Snerk.

Yes!. Joe must be working on Trump-Truman analogies. The first one will be the "Dewey defeats Truman" election. Joe will say that Truman was under estimated & won the election that he was supposed to lose in 1948. Trump won the election in 2016 that almost everyone including Joe thought he would lose.

Joe probably asked Meacham for assistance in writing his book.

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Kemper

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About Meeka's friend who was apparently "hoodwinked" into going mask-less at the Super Spreader Event. There was no excuse for attendees to go mask-less and sit right next to one another.  Hello!  Have any of them heard or watched the news these last months?  Most of us have used common sense when going out and about.  Do these toadies think they are above getting the Virus?  Their smugness and ignorance has cost them; the repercussions in their lives could be tragic.  And they bear the entire blame themselves.      

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neona

neona

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On 10/6/2020 at 8:32 PM, oakville said:

Yes!. Joe must be working on Trump-Truman analogies.

The Truman Balcony was also where Joe  gave his Congressional Inaugural Speech, Evita-style. There wasn't a dry eye on the Mall, baby.

kemper, that is so interesting... I never realized "gas lines" was a literal thing. Everytime I think our current circumstances are awful, there's always some crazy shit other generations have gone through...

oakville, funniest part is when he spells Taba, t-a-b-a-....LMAO. I miss Dr Brzezinski SO much, tbh. They have some dull-ass historians and some hyperactive foreign correspondents doing their best, but in terms of foreign policy analysis, NO ONE can ever match that calm, humor, depth, intellect....

ETA: "If you're gonna judge your knowledge by 300 million other people, of course you'll be embarrassed" <--- back when people actually strove for excellence, and expertise, not populism... 

ETA 2: I would have paid actual money to watch Dr Brzezinski debate JARED KUSHNER on the Middle East...

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Kemper

Kemper

1 hour ago, neona said:

kemper, that is so interesting... I never realized "gas lines" was a literal thing. Everytime I think our current circumstances are awful, there's always some crazy shit other generations have gone through...

 

Now I really feel old! lol We were living in Northern Virginia during the gas crisis; it was hair-raising.  Many many people commuted/carpooled  from the outer suburbs of Maryland and Virginia into DC.  I was working locally, part-time as a Librarian; Mr. Kemper had a carpool of 5 people; so I was The Good Wife and filled the gas tank in the van so he wouldn't have to.  Wine helped.

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Liberty

Liberty

2 hours ago, oakville said:

..Trump won the election in 2016 that almost everyone including Joe thought he would lose.

Just curious and not looking for a kerfluffle, did HRC receiving 3 million more votes than DJT mean she won the election, or did DJT winning the electoral college votes mean he won the election?

Joe would be good at identifying the similarities between Truman and DJT, it's a kind of short list.

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nittany cougar

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15 hours ago, Liberty said:

Just curious and not looking for a kerfluffle, did HRC receiving 3 million more votes than DJT mean she won the election, or did DJT winning the electoral college votes mean he won the election?

Joe would be good at identifying the similarities between Truman and DJT, it's a kind of short list.

Clinton won the popular vote, but the win is based on the electoral college.  The electoral college is established in Article II of the Constitution, which provides for a total of 538 electors.  Trump won because he hit 270 votes in the electoral college.

This morning, Joe mourned Eddie van Halen as one of his favorite musical influences.  Joe claiming a Van Halen influence is pretty appalling.  Maybe he wants to get invited to Eddie Van Halen's memorial service.

Joe also claimed to know that steroid medications affect the president's decisions.  Did Joe go to med school at some point?

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oakville

oakville

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14 hours ago, Liberty said:

Just curious and not looking for a kerfluffle, did HRC receiving 3 million more votes than DJT mean she won the election, or did DJT winning the electoral college votes mean he won the election?

Joe would be good at identifying the similarities between Truman and DJT, it's a kind of short list.

Trump won the electoral college & under the rules of the Constitution, he became President.

Joe's electoral college prediction was Hillary would win with over 300 votes. Joe was wrong on almost every swing state prediction including Florida which he claims he knew very well.

Joe was driving the audience crazy with using the 270towin.com website.

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