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Drink.
Joe just conflated Democratic NY AG Schneiderman's behavior with Bill Clinton's.  Out of nowhere after a long rant on Trump being a dirt bag and the GOP hypocrites: "Let's be honest let's be blunt.  It was the Democratic party in the 1990s that enabled Bill Clinton.   They would say behind the scenes that yes, Bill Clinton physically abused women. He treated them terribly."  Everybody knew this but Ken Starr, I guess.
Clinton invented infidelity.  And the Democrats were to blame.  OK.

I am liking how they have had on so many authors recently. 
 

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21 minutes ago, oakville said:

Joe said the GOP are hypocrites for following President who pays off porn stars.

I think the GOP is hypocritical to have allowed Joe to remain in the GOP party after being unfaithful to two of his wives.

Mic drop.

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18 minutes ago, Landsnark said:

Drink.
Joe just conflated Democratic NY AG Schneiderman's behavior with Bill Clinton's.  

 

8 minutes ago, Landsnark said:

Drink.
Joe just said that Bill Clinton invented lying.  It's really the only way to view Trump's lies today.

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Is it two shots if Hillary comes up?

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I switched to cnn at 630 am. My new strategy will be to watch First Look to get the news & se e the first 15-30 minutes of Morning Bunker & Mika from The upcoming Green Acres revival. 

I laugh at Elise being called White House aide to George w Bush. 

Why don’t they call her an advisor to the rand Paul campaign ?

I notice that they never ask her about Rand Paul’s position.

meachams book looks interesting.

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1 hour ago, XOQueens said:

Drink.
Joe just conflated Democratic NY AG Schneiderman's behavior with Bill Clinton's.  

Pretty ballsy coming from a guy who not only lies the way the rest of us take a breath, but has also been involved in adulterous behavior and lied about it.  Face it Joey. If it wasn't for September 11, your ass would have been investigated for Lori Klasutis' death a little more intensely.  A medical examiner who had knowingly lied about autopsy results, you and your spokesperson making up lies about Lori's health. But please Joe, go ahead and bring up Bill Clinton's affairs every time adultery is mentioned.  

Joe is just like Trump, every time someone brings up adultery he goes into overdrive blaming Democrats for inventing it. 

Keep washing your hands, Lady MacBeth, maybe that blood/guilt will eventually disappear. 

Mika was having a hard time reading the prompter this morning. 

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2 hours ago, oakville said:

Joe reminded everyone that his mom lived through the Great Depression which is almost as bad as the first year of the Trump Presidency.

As bad as the Trump Administration is, I'm pretty sure the Great Depression was WAY worse.

Joe kept saying the transition was TWO YEARS AGO. No, Joe, it was barely 16 months.  If it was two years ago, that would be 24 months, which is 8 more than 16.  I think your phone has a calendar and a calculator, if that helps. 

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19 minutes ago, teddysmom said:

As bad as the Trump Administration is, I'm pretty sure the Great Depression was WAY worse.

Joe kept saying the transition was TWO YEARS AGO. No, Joe, it was barely 16 months.  If it was two years ago, that would be 24 months, which is 8 more than 16.  I think your phone has a calendar and a calculator, if that helps. 

Joe was a key member of the Trump transition team. He recommended Harold Ford Jr & Richard Haas for key cabinet positions. Mika recommended Dinah Powell.

46 minutes ago, teddysmom said:

Pretty ballsy coming from a guy who not only lies the way the rest of us take a breath, but has also been involved in adulterous behavior and lied about it.  Face it Joey. If it wasn't for September 11, your ass would have been investigated for Lori Klasutis' death a little more intensely.  A medical examiner who had knowingly lied about autopsy results, you and your spokesperson making up lies about Lori's health. But please Joe, go ahead and bring up Bill Clinton's affairs every time adultery is mentioned.  

Joe is just like Trump, every time someone brings up adultery he goes into overdrive blaming Democrats for inventing it. 

Keep washing your hands, Lady MacBeth, maybe that blood/guilt will eventually disappear. 

Mika was having a hard time reading the prompter this morning. 

In 2001, there was another Congressman who was accused of having an affair with an intern who died under mysterious circumstances. Her name was Saundra Levy.

I have seen ms Klautisis’s obituary. It was odd that it never mentioned that she worked for Joe.

joe often said he was one of the most powerful Congressmen In the Pensacola area. 

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4 minutes ago, oakville said:

Her name was Saundra Levy.

Ms. Levy worked for a Democrat, Rep. Gary Condit.  Condit got run out of DC on a rail.  Ms. Levy's disappearance was all the M$M could talk about that summer before 9/11. 

The double standard was as infuriating then as it is now. 

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32 minutes ago, oakville said:

In 2001, there was another Congressman who was accused of having an affair with an intern who died under mysterious circumstances. Her name was Saundra Levy.

It was Gary Condit, and her name was Chandra Levy. She was found dead in a park in DC. Condit had a firm alibi from day one, but the media was obsessed with the fact that they may have had an affair.  He had nothing to do with her death.  He had meetings on Capitol hill the day she went missing.  so he was accounted for. 

Marcia Clarke (of OJ fame) has a show on A&E network "Marcia Clarke investigates the first 48 hours" and she did an episode on Chandra's death.  They don't know if they convicted the right guy, but they know Condit had nothing to do with it.   

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1 hour ago, novhappy said:

Making this like every other morning

She must have the same problem Chris Matthews has. Al Sharpton Syndrome. 

They all need to get glasses or learn to read. 

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Wait. Nevermind. Story unfolding. Lol

Nah, I will add something new since she just did this. Mika just posted an old article about her dad and Iran. Is she even aware there are other geopolitical strategist out there in this world?

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7 hours ago, teddysmom said:

It was Gary Condit, and her name was Chandra Levy. She was found dead in a park in DC. Condit had a firm alibi from day one, but the media was obsessed with the fact that they may have had an affair.  He had nothing to do with her death.  He had meetings on Capitol hill the day she went missing.  so he was accounted for. 

Marcia Clarke (of OJ fame) has a show on A&E network "Marcia Clarke investigates the first 48 hours" and she did an episode on Chandra's death.  They don't know if they convicted the right guy, but they know Condit had nothing to do with it.   

Thanks. I couldn’t remember her exact name.

I think Joes intern died in the summer of 2001. 

Joe officially resigned from Congress on September 5 2001.

For The record, I don’t believe , Joe killed his intern. 

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I hope Morning Joe brings on an analyst tomorrow who remembers USA Iran relations from the Carter administration to today. Joe used to be against the Iran deal when Obama made the deal. I suspect his views have changed.

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9 minutes ago, oakville said:

I hope Morning Joe brings on an analyst tomorrow who remembers USA Iran relations from the Carter administration to today. Joe used to be against the Iran deal when Obama made the deal. I suspect his views have changed.

It's a shame Oakville as I guy I follow on Twitter (Yashar Ali) was just saying there are reporters on NYT, WSJ other publications payrolls that could be reporting on this on cable shows.  Very frustrating.

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2 hours ago, oakville said:

I hope Morning Joe brings on an analyst tomorrow who remembers USA Iran relations from the Carter administration to today. Joe used to be against the Iran deal when Obama made the deal. I suspect his views have changed.

? It'll be another overdone Zbig retrospective with some Albright references thrown in. 

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1 hour ago, XOQueens said:

They had Bari Weiss on this morning? Again?

JFC. I was thinking of going back but I'm sitting out longer after reading this.

https://www.mediamatters.org/video/2018/05/08/morning-joe-ny-times-bari-weiss-and-joe-scarborough-tout-far-right-websites-intellectual-salons/220144

Joe sure does love him his alt-Right sympathizers. 

Thanks for posting this xoqueens as it was bouncing around Twitter a lot and I wanted to see what I missed.  I like the way Mika handed that off to Joe first chance she got.

53 minutes ago, oakville said:

Giuliani is not happy that Joe called him an erratic drunk who falls asleep in meetings. Will Joe retaliate against Rudy?

https://www.mediaite.com/online/giuliani-fires-back-at-joe-scarborough-im-more-aware-and-intelligent-than-he-is/

Oakville, when I saw the segment on Mediaite earlier today all I could think of was if I were you two I wouldn't be so eager to spill secrets or somebody may fire up their Twitter machine and start to spill a few of yours.

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49 minutes ago, Chloesmom said:

Thanks for posting this xoqueens as it was bouncing around Twitter a lot and I wanted to see what I missed.  I like the way Mika handed that off to Joe first chance she got.

That was Mika's sole contribution to the conversation.

MIKA BRZEZINSKI (CO-HOST): Joe. 

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I was about to post about how pretty Mika looked today in that attractive black outfit- sans stupid scarf - and lo and behold, she mentions that Michael AvenHottie will be on the show today.  I say to myself, "Well, that explains it".  I wonder if MA will be on-set.  I sure hope so, especially since Joe is off in the bunker.  ??

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6 hours ago, oakville said:

Giuliani is not happy that Joe called him an erratic drunk who falls asleep in meetings. Will Joe retaliate against Rudy?

https://www.mediaite.com/online/giuliani-fires-back-at-joe-scarborough-im-more-aware-and-intelligent-than-he-is/

I was fully expecting Giulliani to end his rant to Joe with "And your mother wears combat boots".  What an infantile tool.  It's scary to think how much responsibility he was tasked with through the years, when this was his emotional and intellectual level.  (And his SNL visuals are seared in my brain).

Methinks Rudy doth protest too much.

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I have little interest in hearing anything Andrea Mitchell has to say, and usually change the channel when she is on, but she made a good case for why we should have stayed in the Iran deal. 

Joe and Mike are commentators and news presenters and I have never expected more from them. Andrea, however, is supposed to be more (journalist, reporter).  She lost me when she could not hide her disdain for Hillary when she was on MJ in 2016. Every time something negative came up about Trump, she seemed to feel she had to counter it by going back to the email issue. She wasn't the only one who did that but it wasn't balanced reporting. 

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Just watched Meeka embarrass herself by trying to badger Avenatti; even Joe told her to STOP! Sweet Jesus.  Avenatti cannot be badgered by the likes of a blonde bobblehead, born-on-third-base-thought-she-hit-a triple "newsreader"...or whatever her title is.  

Has Joe been present on-set at all this week?  I just realized that we could type the same comments on this board every day.  

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6 hours ago, Chloesmom said:

Thanks for posting this xoqueens as it was bouncing around Twitter a lot and I wanted to see what I missed.  I like the way Mika handed that off to Joe first chance she got.

Oakville, when I saw the segment on Mediaite earlier today all I could think of was if I were you two I wouldn't be so eager to spill secrets or somebody may fire up their Twitter machine and start to spill a few of yours.

I find it fascinating that Mika & Joe like to gossip & trash Giuliani yet they expect everyone else to remain silent about their own antics. I remember Joe bragging in Feb 2017 that he had secret text messages to Jared. He told NBC execs that Jared or someone in the Trump administration was trying to blackmail them about his affair with Mika. Nothing ever came of it.

I can't wait for the Morning Joe tell all book when they get cancelled.

It amazes me that highly respected journalists like Charlie Rose, was able to get away with all his sexual misconduct for years , yet no one said or did anything.

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Wednesday Recap:

Mika looks lovely in her dark outfit. Joe is wearing a suit with no glasses in the Bunker.

Noah " I smell rotten Fish" Rothman. Katty Kay is in the library. Barnicle , Willie & Richard " there are not enough diplomats" Haas.

First topic. Cohen is taking money from Oligarchs & is doing shady things for Trump. My eyes glaze over when Mika says "Porn Star Stormy Daniels"

Avehottie will be on the show. I am way behind watching the show today.

Joe impressed me by remembering that he was opposed to the Iran deal.

Obama never got the deal approved by Congress, so Trump can reverse Obama's executive order.

Joe said Trump is moving away from Obama's strategy of being nice to Iran.

The new alliance is Saudi Arabia + Israel + other Sunni states  versus  the Shiite states of Iran & Iraq,

It looks like the next war could be Sunni vs Shiite. That's scary.

Joe is being very logical about the Middle East today.

Obama was a friend of Iran & was upset that they were still supporting Hezbollah terrorist groups.

It's weird how politics works.

Obama was trying to be nice to Iran , so they would stop trying to build nuclear weapons to wipe out Israel.

Trump is trying to be nice to North Korea now, so they don't blow up South Korea.

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24 minutes ago, Kemper said:

Just watched Meeka embarrass herself by trying to badger Avenatti; even Joe told her to STOP! Sweet Jesus.  Avenatti cannot be badgered by the likes of a blonde bobblehead, born-on-third-base-thought-she-hit-a triple "newsreader"...or whatever her title is.  

Has Joe been present on-set at all this week?  I just realized that we could type the same comments on this board every day.  

"Bubble-headed-bleach-blonde" ... good song! I don't think Joey ever used it for bumper music :)

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Nicolas Burns is GW Bush appointee. He said the new US Ambassador will have to tell the german companies that want to do business with Iran that their businesses will be affected. The Europeans are selling many things to Iran. Iran has more money now without sanctions and higher oil prices.

It's ironic that Trump could help Iran by keeping oil prices high. They could sell oil to the Europeans.

Interesting show so far today.

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2 minutes ago, oakville said:

It's ironic that Trump could help Iran by keeping oil prices high.

I think there is another country he would like to help with higher oil prices.  

How dare they relegate my beloved John "Sweaterman" Podhoretz to the newsroom seat.  Philistines!

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4 minutes ago, Chloesmom said:

How dare they relegate my beloved John "Sweaterman" Podhoretz to the newsroom seat.  Philistines!

I saw just a few seconds of Podhoretz, and the combination of my pre-coffee state and his bright blue sweater made me think I'd turned on Sesame Street. I was expecting to hear "Me Want Cookie."

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2 minutes ago, Jordan Baker said:

I saw just a few seconds of Podhoretz, and the combination of my pre-coffee state and his bright blue sweater made me think I'd turned on Sesame Street. I was expecting to hear "Me Want Cookie."

Hee!  He probably does, he did have an epic meltdown on Twitter when his lunch wasn't delivered on time.  You are right, he needs to rethink that particular sweater.

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14 minutes ago, Chloesmom said:

I think there is another country he would like to help with higher oil prices.  

How dare they relegate my beloved John "Sweaterman" Podhoretz to the newsroom seat.  Philistines!

Saudi Arabia benefits from higher oil prices as well as Russia and Canada!.

The higher oil prices will encourage more drilling for oil in the USA.

Trump is like JR Ewing from Dallas!

Looking forward to seeing Sweaterman.

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Senator Chris Murphy warned Barnicle that the chances of a war between Iran & Israel are higher. In the "good old days", the USA would give weapons to Saddam Hussein & let him battle Iran. It was called the Iran-Iraq War. Now , George W, goes and gets rid of Saddam, so Iraq is effectively run by the Shiite majority in Iraq  who is affiliated with Iran.

The Middle East is a mess. Burns said Trump has to have a detailed strategy to deal with the Middle East & not just do the opposite of whatever Obama did.

Noah Rothman looks like Marc Halperin. Noah said that Iran isn't complying with the nuclear deal.

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How dare they relegate my beloved John "Sweaterman" Podhoretz to the newsroom seat.  Philistines!

I saw just a few seconds of Podhoretz, and the combination of my pre-coffee state and his bright blue sweater made me think I'd turned on Sesame Street. I was expecting to hear "Me Want Cookie

 

Last week I questioned how many Chaps cotton cable knit sweaters he had and today i think I know the answer--one.  I think he re-wears it over and over.

 

SOMEONE GIVE ME AN AVENHOTTIE RECAP--did not watch

 

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Noah " I smell rotten Fish" Rothman. 

There's no good time that Noah Rothman cannot ruin. He looks like he's sneering at everybody.  AS WELL HE SHOULD ON THAT SHOW!!

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They covered a whole lot this morning. 
I like Podhoretz' avuncular nature, but I hate his politics and excuses for Trump's corruption. 
Joe's face when it became clear that the 3 captives were coming home was rich.  He had to GRUDGINGLY approve and then walk the tightrope where he admitted he hated Obama's enthusiasm for the Iranian deal but also hates how Trump pulled out of it, and how he's happy that the captives are coming home but hates that Trump did it.  But he's probably right, what on earth did Trump promise NK to get them to capitulate to so many terms?  What did Trump offer so that he can simply win a news cycle?

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44 minutes ago, oakville said:

Noah Rothman looks like Marc Halperin.

So glad I'm not the only one who sees that.  I thought I was crazy.  And they started having Rothman on a lot right after Halperin got banished to the a #MeToo wilderness, seemed like right on cue. 

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39 minutes ago, WhineandCheez said:

SOMEONE GIVE ME AN AVENHOTTIE RECAP--did not watch

Oh sorry I didn't watch much of it this morning as I saw/heard enough last night (I think there is an excellent chance he is just going to move into CNN's studios.  We'll be able to see him snoozing on an air mattress behind the anchor desks).  I did catch the part where Scoop Brzezinski was badgering him about that stupid disk and Joe kept telling her asked and answered.  All I kept thinking about was that article lamenting how she got tossed from CBS because she was 39.  Yeah, not sure that was the problem Meeks.

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I like the baseball talk with Joe today. Baseball is a 162 game season. Barnicle got mad at the Red Sox losing, so he left the set. The Yankees & Red Sox are very good this year.

6 minutes ago, navelgazer said:

So glad I'm not the only one who sees that.  I thought I was crazy.  And they started having Rothman on a lot right after Halperin got banished to the a #MeToo wilderness, seemed like right on cue. 

It's incredible to see how quickly Halperin can go from the self described leader of the "Gang of 500" journalists who can make or break a Presidential campaign to "He who shall not be named". No one cares what he thinks about anything anymore. Same thing with Harold Ford Jr. I always used to laugh at his "I  agree with you Joe"

Mika took a few shots at Joe because he was talking about baseball. Mika said she would review her tax returns while Joe talked about his beloved Red Sox. Never Change Mika!

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Why is Blankenship even allowed to run to be a Senator? I thought Ex Cons, can't run for higher office or even vote in some states?

Weird.

Why is Kornacki wearing a sweater in May?

Kornacki said the internal polls were wrong about Blakenship. He said the NBC polls were right & people should rely on them in future. LOL! Relying on NBC & other polls is how Hillary & the media blew it.

Kornacki is happy that Jenkins is not the GOP candidate in West Virginia. He is from coal country & could take votes away from Mancin.

Luckily Kornacki doesn't remember the Epipen scandal that Mancin's daughter caused. She raised the prices to make more money for herself & the company.

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Kornacki is upset that GOP nominee Braun in Indiana  doesn't have baggage that can be used against him to help Donnelly who is a vulnerable Democrat.

Murdoch was the "pro rape candidate" in Indiana who knocked off the establishment GOP Dick Lugar.

How can anyone not vomit when you hear about some of this whackos running for office. We have a provincial election campaign starting today in Ontario. No one could get away with that nonsense here. They would be tossed out of the political party.

Cocaine Mitch & China People. Good Grief. It's too early for wine.

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37 minutes ago, oakville said:

How can anyone not vomit when you hear about some of this whackos running for office. We have a provincial election campaign starting today in Ontario. No one could get away with that nonsense here. They would be tossed out of the political party.

Cocaine Mitch & China People. Good Grief. It's too early for wine.

Well, oakville, while I agree that we do have some nutjobs running for office here, I've got two words for you:  "Rob" and "Ford."  ; )

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She was cringeworthy questioning Avenatti. He was clearly laughing at her, not with her.  

ETA: I think her big scoop about the physical threat was a question planted to her by Avenatti. He was ready to reveal that info obviously so he did it that way for fun. 

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