Watch A Trailer For Season 5 Of Teen Mom

[Primetimer]

So much boo and hoo.

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[monocles]

It's a sign of how awful everyone's hair can be on this show that my reaction to Amber's purple hair was "Well, at least it's all one color."

[toodywoody]

Wow color me not surprised Sophia is turning into a miniature dick like her precious ugly crying mother.

Butch without a mullet, hopefully he can get his act together this time that he is out.

Miss seeing Bentley and don't care about Maci at all.

Nova is cute as hell

Amber and Gary part 5 million and did Leah look like she had a black eye? I actually like the purple hair buy my question is what the hell Amber? How old are you? That's for college kids and she needs to get her ass off the couch and try to do something with her life and who the hell would hire anyone with purple hair besides skater shops and tattoo parlors?

Bueller Bueller Bueller...........

[Darknight]

Maci girl a baby won't make him your husband. If you really wanted marriage then maybe you shouldve waited until he married you.

Sophia is a brat. Darrah is a bitch but she makes the show.

Butch sorry to say he might be back in jail. I hope he stays out.

Caitlin and Tyler are really annoying. Jmo. I mean they're both attention whores.

Amber and Gary. Two hot messes. Can't believe Leah is turning out alright.

Aren't these kids like 7?

[ktwo]

Aren't these kids like 7?

Yes, or almost. Bentley was born the same week as my son which is what hooked me on 16 & Pregnant in the first place. Bentley is the oldest on the show and he turned seven in late October or early November. I think Carly is the youngest in this group and her seventh birthday will be in the spring.

[this-one-is-mine]

Maci's kids are going to be on this season...apparently her rationale is that "they're already affiliated with the show" so the damage is done or some such nonsense.

Or maybe it's because the producers actually called her bluff and told her she can't film without them and Maci realizes she has no other options in life except to sell out herself and her children.

In general I find Maci to be maybe the most insufferable of both franchises because she is seen as this "great mom." She freaked out about Farrah joining the show, saying that if undermined the great "message" of the show. But last time I checked the message has nothing to do with porn/why kids shouldn't do porn. It has to do with being responsible/educated/in a stable relationship before getting knocked up. Farrah has lots of flaws but that's one thing she's managed to avoid whereas (still!) uneducated Maci wants to get pregnant by any guy she has dated for five minutes.

[Tatum]

Farrah has lots of flaws but that's one thing she's managed to avoid whereas (still!) uneducated Maci wants to get pregnant by any guy she has dated for five minutes.

 

Hey now...Maci has her AA in "Social Media Marketing" or something like that, and she ALREADY started her own business (ie, sent a fifty buck check to the Tennessee Secretary of State to register an LLC)- she'll be a mogul in no time!

[MyPeopleAreNordic]

Wait...did Maci actually finish her AA? Last I heard, she was set to graduate last May but didn't because she took off the Spring semester because she was going to have Jayde.

[Tatum]

Wait...did Maci actually finish her AA? Last I heard, she was set to graduate last May but didn't because she took off the Spring semester because she was going to have Jayde.

 

Her book that she released this year says she graduated. I don't see how it's possible, seeing as how she was not set to graduate until May of 2015, then dropped out of the Jan-May 2015 semester entirely, but she has given several interviews since then where she says she earned her AA. Color me baffled.

[WhosThatGirl]

Well, I am for one excited to see how much these girls have not changed again. Also, is Maci showing Jayde on camera? Thought she would give the same treatment as she did with Bentley.

[qtpye]

Her book that she released this year says she graduated. I don't see how it's possible, seeing as how she was not set to graduate until May of 2015, then dropped out of the Jan-May 2015 semester entirely, but she has given several interviews since then where she says she earned her AA. Color me baffled.

 

 

Maybe she graduated from one of those diploma mills where they send you degree as long your credit card payment clears?  If this is true, she might have her bachelors and a PhD in a couple of months.

[ghoulina]

It looks like they are keeping the 4th wall down, like last season, no? I want to give everyone in production a gold star for having to deal with Farrah and not clocking her. Did we see Matt at all in Amber's clips? I wonder how they're doing. 

[bref]

Blarghh. I am interested enough in these girls to read the forum, not enough to watch the show, which makes me cringe. Actually, it's really just Farrah. I must know how awful she is but i will not subject myself to seeing it! When does the season start?

[bilgistic]

Make it stop.

[ghoulina]

I think it starts Jan 4? 

[radishcake]

Shouldn't this be season 6? Season 5 ran through June of this year.

[truelovekiss]

So according to my man Gary, Matt has SEVEN KIDS?!?! Do we know if there is any truth to this? I thought he acknowledged like three or something.

[ghoulina]

Whoa, what in the world???? I hadn't heard anything more than he had "kids", which I assumed to be two, three at the most. Not that even leaving ONE kid behind to go chase fame on the sectional of Amber "Eyelashes" Portland would be okay, but leaving 7? Dayum. What a prize. 

 

We shall see if Gary gives us any more to go on. Pretty much everything I can find online says two kids. That could be by just the one baby mama. Matt has always struck me as shady. I wouldn't put it past him to have several other kids floating around that he didn't even tell Amber about. 

[GreatKazu]

There is a different trailer here and Gary shows an attorney what appears to be documentation that Matt has seven children that Amber doesn't know about: http://www.usmagazine.com/entertainment/news/amber-portwoods-fiance-has-seven-kids-her-ex-says-in-new-teen-mom-og-teaser-w159442

Also, MTV is showing a sort-of-a-trailer that is different than the one I just linked to and the other one posted here. MTV is really pushing this season with all these trailers. Speaking of the one airing on MTV, I just happened to change the channel when I saw a child's face and immediately recognized that child as being Leah Shirley. Pretty sad when the children are just as recognizable as their shitty parents. Time to get this damn show off the air!!!

[Spacecow]

SEVEN kids?! This guy just gets creepier and creepier.

I'm really over the OG girls. I already knew that after the snoozefest of last season but watching the trailer just confirmed my lack of interest in watching their stupid lives. Amber is awful, I was rooting for her as I think we all were but she has done nothing but disappoint. She's not sober, she's not working, she's engaged to a creeper and all she does is whine on that puffy couch. Poor Leah Leanne.

Maci is annoying with her "omg marry me, I'm so old fashioned I wanna do things right" talk, like if she was really old fashioned she wouldn't have been sleeping with Taylor in the first place, or moving in together. Baby Jayde looks just like her daddy. Interpret that as you will. 

Catelynn and Tyler, well Nova is a cute baby and that's about all I can say. I don't think Tyler really loves her and just married her so he would have material for his Instagram posts. The relationship isn't healthy. Somewhat interested in seeing Butch post-prison. 

Farrah is insufferable.

[WhosThatGirl]

I love that Ryan was like, "ever since she (Maci) has had the baby, she's different" Uh, she didn't seem that different to me. When we last left her, she was all upset that she and Taylor were buying a house together but weren't married, now she just has Jayde and she still wants to be married. How is that different? 

 

Also, the ending of the season episode is probably going to be Tyler and Cate's wedding, right? Both Maci and Amber went, right?  I know Farrah was not on the guest list but MTV probably is all excited to have that wedding episode finally.  It has to be the ending of the season. Maybe even the series. That's wishful thinking on my part. 

[qtpye]

I am predicting that this years season finale will be Taylor getting on his knees and proposing to Maci, with a ring provided by the show.  I think Maci is gunning for the wedding special that Cate and Tyler did not get or her wedding will be shown next season.   I am sure she is picturing Bently as the ring bearer and little Jade as a flower girl.  Maci is hungry for a wedding and it has nothing to do with her being old fashioned.

 

I think at this point that Farrah has alienated all the people in her life besides her parents.  What I am saying, is that she has so little going on that they have to resort to footage of her arguing with the producers and crew.

 

I wonder when this thing is truly over...which one of the original OG Teen Moms do people expect to go broke first?

[ghoulina]

I see Amber going broke first. She has no motivation, no prospects. 

 

Farrah is a hustler, as much as people dislike the stuff she gets involved in. 

 

Tyler and Cate are pretty unmotivated themselves, but they also seem content to handle their money wisely - for instance, the older house. I think they could still negotiate a lot of speaking engagements, based on the adoption stuff. 

 

Maci will lock a husband down eventually, and her parents would likely never let her become destitute. 

 

But Amber - she has no family support. The guy in her life is likely mooching off of HER. She's never really shown any desire to further her education or pursue any of type of career. Hell, she barely shows motivation to get off of the sectional. 

[leighroda]

Just FYI, there is a marathon of early episodes on right now

[leighroda]

I am predicting that this years season finale will be Taylor getting on his knees and proposing to Maci, with a ring provided by the show. I think Maci is gunning for the wedding special that Cate and Tyler did not get or her wedding will be shown next season. I am sure she is picturing Bently as the ring bearer and little Jade as a flower girl. Maci is hungry for a wedding and it has nothing to do with her being old fashioned.

I think at this point that Farrah has alienated all the people in her life besides her parents. What I am saying, is that she has so little going on that they have to resort to footage of her arguing with the producers and crew.

I wonder when this thing is truly over...which one of the original OG Teen Moms do people expect to go broke first?

If the og I would say Amber... Cate and Tyler, and Maci seem to spend more than they should, and I don't think they want to work, but I think they could/would if they had to. Farrah is a bitch, but she does seem to have some sense when it comes to money, she's not a genius, she would probably just crank out another sex tape. Amber I don't believe has ever worked in the entire run of the show ( I could be wrong so please correct me if I'm forgetting), and has taken up permanently on that couch.

[Snarky McSnarky]

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Edited December 14, 2015 by Bella Roche

[truelovekiss]

I see Amber going broke first. She has no motivation, no prospects.

But Amber - she has no family support. The guy in her life is likely mooching off of HER. She's never really shown any desire to further her education or pursue any of type of career. Hell, she barely shows motivation to get off of the sectional.

I totally agree with this. That, and I think she's emotionally vulnerable, and has low enough self esteem that she is happy to have any man in her life, even one who is obviously using her. Matt will move on in time, but not until he's got half of her money. Amber will be lucky to get a job at the Wal-Mart deli with Babs.

[Maharincess]

I'm watching the marathon and seeing Amber and Gary fighting as he's proposing will always make me laugh. Them screaming at each other while he's down on one knee with a ring in his hand is one of the funniest things I've ever seen on TV.

[qtpye]

I always feel a little bad for Amber.  Maci and Farrah have loving families that will support them no matter what they do.  Heck, Farrah actually came from a family that some might consider privileged.  Cate, at least has Tyler and her mom seems better now that she is off the drugs.  Amber has no on except a middle age loser, who is using her for her fame and money.  If Amber, would just get out of her own way and be the mother that Leah deserves, she would be much happier and would not need that weirdo.

[truelovekiss]

I always feel a little bad for Amber. Maci and Farrah have loving families that will support them no matter what they do. Heck, Farrah actually came from a family that some might consider privileged. Cate, at least has Tyler and her mom seems better now that she is off the drugs. Amber has no on except a middle age loser, who is using her for her fame and money. If Amber, would just get out of her own way and be the mother that Leah deserves, she would be much happier and would not need that weirdo.

She does have her mom and her brother Shawn/Bubby who adamantly tried to warn her about this relationship with Matt, but she didn't listen. She also has her cousin Krystal, but there were some allegations that she was only around when the cameras were. Maybe her family has some issues, but I think they've been as supportive of her as they could.

Edited December 15, 2015 by truelovekiss

[ghoulina]

I think her brother has been very supportive, but doesn't he live somewhere else? Krystal, I absolutely believe, is a fair weather friend. I'm not sure about her mother. Something about that relationship seems very contentious. I believe Amber called her mother "absentee" at one point, and I think there was a big gap of time where SHE didn't appear on the show either, after 16&P. So yea, I still think Amber has the least amount of support when it comes to family. 

[FairyDusted]

I don't think I can handle Farrah just from the trailer. I estimate watching the episodes in 10 minutes. And that's to see Butch. Mullet or no Mullet.

[Tatum]

I think her brother has been very supportive, but doesn't he live somewhere else? Krystal, I absolutely believe, is a fair weather friend. I'm not sure about her mother. Something about that relationship seems very contentious. I believe Amber called her mother "absentee" at one point, and I think there was a big gap of time where SHE didn't appear on the show either, after 16&P. So yea, I still think Amber has the least amount of support when it comes to family. 

 

I think Amber said her mother and father both turned to alcohol after her young sister died of SIDS.

 

Amber's mom pissed me off in the original 16 and Pregnant. She pinned all the blame on Amber's pregnancy on Gary's mom, stating that Gary's mom had allowed Amber to sleep over and SHE never would have allowed that.

 

Um hey, Amber's mom, the only way Amber could have spent the night at Gary's was if she wasn't spending the night at her own house. That was YOUR job to keep tabs on her. People that neglect their kids and then expect other people to parent them drive me crazy. Even if Amber was lying about where she was going- maybe check on her? Maybe talk to her, ask your 17 year old daughter if she needs to be on birth control?

 

Amber's brother is military and I think frequently deployed or lives on a military base in another state. 

 

Amber's obnoxious, but she did kind of get the shaft from her parents.

[Maharincess]

When you're such an asshole that the only way you communicate is by screaming and violence then a middle aged loser is what you deserve.

Amber has had many chances and opportunities to better herself and I'm not seeing anything different in her behavior.

She says in the trailer that she "doesn't even know why I changed". Well Amber, you didn't change, you're still the same ass you used to be.

[Tatum]

Who is saying in the background "we wouldn't be having this conversation if your son would step up as a father"? It cuts to Ryan, but the speaker doesn't sound like Maci.

[CookieChica]

I definitely see Amber going broke first. Everyone else has at least put in the effort to pretend they want a career.

[ghoulina]

Who is saying in the background "we wouldn't be having this conversation if your son would step up as a father"? It cuts to Ryan, but the speaker doesn't sound like Maci.

 

Maybe Maci's mom? She hasn't been on in awhile, though.

[Tatum]

Yeah, and if I recall, Maci's mom was pretty hands off as far as conflict, and generally encouraged Maci to play as nice with Ryan as possible for Bentley's sake. I can't believe she would say something so confrontational to Ryan's parents (who I assume this comment was directed at- I don't think it could be in reference to Corey or Jo). My other thought was that it Ryan's own mom, complaining to Ryan's dad. But that doesn't make a lot of sense either, calling him "yours" instead of "ours". Weird.

 

In Maci's book (I must point out I checked it out of library, I did NOT contribute any money towards Maci's inflated ego) she really puts down Ryan's parents, and has an animosity towards them I've not seen before in the show, basically blaming them for raising such an irresponsible slacker and enabling him to continue in that direction, and hinting that she wants to limit their time with Bentley so they don't make the same mistake with him. While I think she has a valid point to some degree, that was pretty bitchy of her to put that in a book where they can't defend themselves, and particularly if she never confronted them directly about it and let them find out with everyone else when they read her book (or were told about it). Considering how Maci immediately backed down when confronted by Farrah, I find it pretty unlikely that Maci ever expressed her anger to Jen and Larry directly.

 

Wonder if there will any fallout from that?

[qtpye]

n Maci's book (I must point out I checked it out of library, I did NOT contribute any money towards Maci's inflated ego) she really puts down Ryan's parents, and has an animosity towards them I've not seen before in the show, basically blaming them for raising such an irresponsible slacker and enabling him to continue in that direction, and hinting that she wants to limit their time with Bentley so they don't make the same mistake with him. While I think she has a valid point to some degree, that was pretty bitchy of her to put that in a book where they can't defend themselves, and particularly if she never confronted them directly about it and let them find out with everyone else when they read her book (or were told about it). Considering how Maci immediately backed down when confronted by Farrah, I find it pretty unlikely that Maci ever expressed her anger to Jen and Larry directly.

 

 

Wow, I would have never guessed that from the show.  I remember thinking what I great relationship Maci has with Ryan's parents and how she must sometimes wish Ryan was more like his father.  I think the funniest part of last season was Ryan's dad saying Ryan and Taylor should do a nude spread (this was after Maci went on a rant about Farrah doing porn) titled "Maci's baby daddies".

 

That being said, I think Maci is putting too much of Ryan's faults on his parents.  Maci's parents seem nice and I would imagine they did not raise their daughter to have to oops! pregnancies by the time she hit her mid twenties.  However, blaming all of Maci's problems on them at this point wold be enabling and that is what she is doing to Ryan.

 

I think Maci's anger is that no one could get Ryan to love her and treat her with respect.  Yeah, his parents should have raised him better, but she also should have made him wrap it up, before he got with her.  She was young then, so I give her a pass, but she did the same thing again (after giving paid lectures at school campuses on how to avoid unwanted pregnancies).

[Tatum]

 

I think Maci's anger is that no one could get Ryan to love her and treat her with respect.  Yeah, his parents should have raised him better, but she also should have made him wrap it up, before he got with her.  She was young then, so I give her a pass, but she did the same thing again (after giving paid lectures at school campuses on how to avoid unwanted pregnancies).

 

I think that is exactly it. Maci has gone on record several times basically saying she and Ryan had this fairy tale love, that all came to a screeching halt when Bentley came along. Maci has more than once indicated the stresses of parenting ruined her relationship with Ryan, rather than admit the likely truth that without a pregnancy, they would have likely gone on their separate ways before Maci even graduated high school.

 

I think Maci still believes that if she hadn't gotten pregnant in high school, she and Ryan would have remained together, happily, she would have gotten her degree, they would have gotten married, and had planned kids, and that Ryan would have been a better father and co-parent to her if the timing had just been better. I am guessing Ryan likely instigated sexual activity, probably balked at putting on a condom, and then took off after the mess that HE mostly caused. (Yes, Maci could have said no glove, no love, but given that Ryan was the older one and more experienced, and likely more invested in having sex than Maci was, I put the blame more on him than her). So she likely has unprotected sex way more for his sake than her own, and then he takes away this brilliant love they had as a direct result of her putting his feelings before hers. That's a bitter pill to swallow. As loathsome as I generally find Maci, I totally get her anger at Ryan.

[qtpye]

Don't get me wrong, Maci's anger at Ryan is justified.  I just did not expect her to go in so hard on her in laws when they seem so friendly on the show.  Ryan's parents absolutely coddle and enable Ryan's behavior, but they are great grandparents to Bentley. 

 

I am guessing Ryan likely instigated sexual activity, probably balked at putting on a condom, and then took off after the mess that HE mostly caused. (Yes, Maci could have said no glove, no love, but given that Ryan was the older one and more experienced, and likely more invested in having sex than Maci was, I put the blame more on him than her). So she likely has unprotected sex way more for his sake than her own, and then he takes away this brilliant love they had as a direct result of her putting his feelings before hers.

 

 

This is a horrible thing for a teenage girl to go through.  However, she has put herself in the exact situation once again with another guy.  I do not get the feeling Taylor wants to marry her.  I also do not believe she got pregnant by accident.  For some reason, Maci is one of those women who think having a guy's baby will make the guy love her.  It was understandable when she was a teenager, but insane that she repeated the exact same actions again.

 

As messed up as Ryan is, at least he had a job as a diesel mechanic when he got her pregnant.  Taylor has no prospects other then mooching off Maci.  He practically forced her to buy (another) house so he could have his man cave and admitted he would only buy her a ring if it was related to the show.  I know it seemed like he was joking, but I think there was more then a grain of truth to his words.

[truelovekiss]

Yeah, and if I recall, Maci's mom was pretty hands off as far as conflict, and generally encouraged Maci to play as nice with Ryan as possible for Bentley's sake. I can't believe she would say something so confrontational to Ryan's parents (who I assume this comment was directed at- I don't think it could be in reference to Corey or Jo). My other thought was that it Ryan's own mom, complaining to Ryan's dad. But that doesn't make a lot of sense either, calling him "yours" instead of "ours". Weird.

In Maci's book (I must point out I checked it out of library, I did NOT contribute any money towards Maci's inflated ego) she really puts down Ryan's parents, and has an animosity towards them I've not seen before in the show, basically blaming them for raising such an irresponsible slacker and enabling him to continue in that direction, and hinting that she wants to limit their time with Bentley so they don't make the same mistake with him. While I think she has a valid point to some degree, that was pretty bitchy of her to put that in a book where they can't defend themselves, and particularly if she never confronted them directly about it and let them find out with everyone else when they read her book (or were told about it). Considering how Maci immediately backed down when confronted by Farrah, I find it pretty unlikely that Maci ever expressed her anger to Jen and Larry directly.

Wonder if there will any fallout from that?

I think it's possible it could have been Jen talking to Larry. Sometimes like if my mom is annoyed at me, she'll refer to me as "YOUR daughter" to my dad. It's usually as a joke though.

That was kind of a low blow from Maci, but then again, no one would ever accuse her of having great character to begin with. Ryyyyyn is no peach, but what exactly makes her super woman? She's always had a lot of help and babysitters for Bentley, her parents are stable and supportive. While she has done a large part of the Bentley raising, I wouldn't say she's done an exceptional job. Moving him away from his whole family so she can live with her boyfriend is one example.

I think Maci's anger is that no one could get Ryan to love her and treat her with respect. Yeah, his parents should have raised him better, but she also should have made him wrap it up, before he got with her. She was young then, so I give her a pass, but she did the same thing again (after giving paid lectures at school campuses on how to avoid unwanted pregnancies).

Maci seems like a girl that isn't so much into having a partner to love and share her life with, but someone to just kind of fill in the suit at her imaginary wedding. And I think she wants to feel loved, adored and special. It's not so much that I think she's still in love with Ryan, but I think she is bitter that he doesn't love her and spend his days pining for her, plotting to get her back.

[Tatum]

 

Ryyyyyn is no peach, but what exactly makes her super woman?

 

Duh, she's bulletproof!

[ghoulina]

Don't get me wrong, Maci's anger at Ryan is justified.  I just did not expect her to go in so hard on her in laws when they seem so friendly on the show.  Ryan's parents absolutely coddle and enable Ryan's behavior, but they are great grandparents to Bentley.

 

Agreed. I think it's quite likely that Ryan's parents spoiled him and that's a large part of how he is now. However, he is a grown man and can choose to change himself if he so desires. Also, I think it's quite likely that his parents realize the mistakes they made and aren't necessarily going to pass anything on to Bentley. 

[Maharincess]

Does Ryan have any siblings?

[MyPeopleAreNordic]

Sorry.....never mind.

Edited December 20, 2015 by MyPeopleAreNordic

[WhosThatGirl]

I think Ryan's dad tries to be more firm with him than his Mom does, though. I think there have been many times where Ryan's father has just stared at him- last season, when Larry was trying to have a real dad talk with him while they were at a restaurant and Ryan didn't like where the talk was going and left, Larry seemed to be miffed by it- I think his Mom does everything for him.

 

I think Maci's parents are done appearing on the show. I hardly remember her Dad being on, maybe just her original episode. But her Mom was on a lot and I liked her Mom a lot. Her mom seemed to encourage her to have a devils advocate approach to dealing with Ryan and seemed to roll her eyes at her daughter's nonsense. I remember a conversation when Maci said something about how her parents need to trust her more and her Mom was like, "We did and Bentley happened". 

[Maharincess]

Mypeoplearenordic, whoa damn!

I wasn't going to say that about Ryan at all. I was just curious because we've never seen or heard about any siblings.

I was just wondering.

Edited December 18, 2015 by Maharincess

[qtpye]

Sadly, I think Ryan's mother is caught in viscous cycle.  She brought Ryan up like the handsome little prince he is and is realizing her mistake.  She is also sick of his shit, but knows that he will never step up and be a father.  This could cost him visitation rights with Bentley.  If Ryan loses visitation rights with Bentley, then she will not be able to see her precious baby grandchild (I think grandparents virtually have no rights to the children).  She is probably really worried about Bentley now as he is getting used the latest in Maci's revolving door of boyfriends and a new baby sister.

 

Is anyone else shocked at how trashy Maci looks in the trailer?  She used to be a cute girl and I have nothing against tattoos, but for some reason she is looking rather rough.  I guess raising two small children, pretending to get a degree, and forcing a guy to marry you can be stressful.

[Tatum]

I agree Jen has spoiled the shit out of precious baby boy, much more so than Larry. Sadly enough, it appears that Ryan doesn't even show her much respect. Does anyone remember the episode where Ryan's girlfriend made some comment that Ryan is only polite to Jen when he's asking her for money? And why Jen is giving her 26 year old son handouts while he lazes around the house drinking his energy drinks (which don't appear to be giving him much energy), and answering his parents with monosyllabic grunts is a mystery to me.

 

Ryan is not even 30 and nowhere near as attractive as he used to be. He might want to work on developing some social skills or a personality because he's not going to be able to count on his looks for much longer.

 

 

Is anyone else shocked at how trashy Maci looks in the trailer?  She used to be a cute girl and I have nothing against tattoos, but for some reason she is looking rather rough.

 

I think Maci has been on a decline for awhile. I would never say she was a gorgeous, but when she had the strawberry blond short bob and made an effort to get dressed every day (I think the first season of TM), she was really cute, I thought.  Her face is too petite for long hair which always looks straggly anyways, and the ripped camo look or oversized sweats is not flattering.