General Gabbery: DWTS

[BeeBop88]

On ‎10‎/‎23‎/‎2018 at 11:21 AM, boyznkatz said:

They should have eliminated someone last night. This season only has nine weeks, and there are a lot of people left. Are they going to have multiple double eliminations?

I'm inclined to think that Demarcus and Alexis were really the bottom two and they just couldn't afford to lose another good dancer this soon.

I read on another site that on finale week, which is 2 days, the 1st day there will be 5 couples with a double elimination, and on the 2nd night there will be 3 couples. DWTS has a new show runner, so I think that is why things are done differently ( a new pro having a ringer, no elimination on Disney night when they have had eliminations on Disney night in the past, and a different way to do finale night.)

[vdw84]

I loved Mark but u could tell it always felt like he was trying to play catch up to Derek winning so many times on the show. I think he did feel inferior to him all on his own.  I notice on the season where he had Lindsay Sterling, he would bring up about only winning twice and would like win again and i was thinking dude, its pros that have been on years that havent even won yet and ur complaining because u havent won enough. I just think he wanted to Derek's status but never reached it and I think that truly bothered him.

For me, I felt like Mark was a better dancer, he had a soulful presence to him when he danced and I never got that from from Derek. Derek was a good dancer but I felt Mark felt the music  better and gets into character better.

1 hour ago, BeeBop88 said:

I read on another site that on finale week, which is 2 days, the 1st day there will be 5 couples with a double elimination, and on the 2nd night there will be 3 couples. DWTS has a new show runner, so I think that is why things are done differently ( a new pro having a ringer, no elimination on Disney night when they have had eliminations on Disney night in the past, and a different way to do finale night.)

So its going be 5 freestyles??

[calipiano81]

50 minutes ago, vdw84 said:

I loved Mark but u could tell it always felt like he was trying to play catch up to Derek winning so many times on the show. I think he did feel inferior to him all on his own.  I notice on the season where he had Lindsay Sterling, he would bring up about only winning twice and would like win again and i was thinking dude, its pros that have been on years that havent even won yet and ur complaining because u havent won enough. I just think he wanted to Derek's status but never reached it and I think that truly bothered him.

Lindsey was the one who brought up his only winning twice, not Mark. 

And frankly, the length of time since Mark's last win has been longer than any of the current pros (minus Cheryl) have been on the show. His FANS have been clamoring for him to get a 3rd win and have been frustrated with his runner-up finishes, so I couldn't blame him for feeling the same (ditto for Cheryl). But I have never heard him complain about only winning twice.

Edited October 25, 2018 by calipiano81

[crossover]

5 hours ago, calipiano81 said:

Lindsey was the one who brought up his only winning twice, not Mark. 

And frankly, the length of time since Mark's last win has been longer than any of the current pros (minus Cheryl) have been on the show. His FANS have been clamoring for him to get a 3rd win and have been frustrated with his runner-up finishes, so I couldn't blame him for feeling the same (ditto for Cheryl). But I have never heard him complain about only winning twice.

I’m sure Mark wanted to win more; not just because Derek won so many times but because he probably felt he had celebs who had performed the best.  

I’ve always preferred Mark’s dancing over Derek’s and I prefer Mark’s choreography as well.  But Derek is better for DWTS.  The main thing he has over Mark is height which makes him look better on TV with the celebs and extensions.  Derek was the only blonde male pro.  Everyone loved his sister when she was a pro and it naturally filtered to him.  Derek presented his celeb better, both dance wise and personality wise.  So I can see why he won so many times.

[vdw84]

7 hours ago, calipiano81 said:

Lindsey was the one who brought up his only winning twice, not Mark. 

And frankly, the length of time since Mark's last win has been longer than any of the current pros (minus Cheryl) have been on the show. His FANS have been clamoring for him to get a 3rd win and have been frustrated with his runner-up finishes, so I couldn't blame him for feeling the same (ditto for Cheryl). But I have never heard him complain about only winning twice.

Yeah, I know Lindsay Sterling brought it up but im sure she brought it up because Mark has mentioned it before, anyone could tell that he wants that third win or more wins. With Cheryl, yes its been a while since she has won but never got the impression it bothers her that much, it just seems she competes now to just be competing and if she wins, she wins, its not something she is really fighting for, maybe for her current partner but not herself.

2 hours ago, crossover said:

I’m sure Mark wanted to win more; not just because Derek won so many times but because he probably felt he had celebs who had performed the best.  

I’ve always preferred Mark’s dancing over Derek’s and I prefer Mark’s choreography as well.  But Derek is better for DWTS.  The main thing he has over Mark is height which makes him look better on TV with the celebs and extensions.  Derek was the only blonde male pro.  Everyone loved his sister when she was a pro and it naturally filtered to him.  Derek presented his celeb better, both dance wise and personality wise.  So I can see why he won so many times.

One thing I can say about Derek, he did present his partners better, except mary Lu but thats another story. I will commend him that every partner he won with, he didnt have to fake a showmance (a las Maks). In fact I dont recall Derek ever going the showmance route, and appreciate that because I cant stand with pros and celebs do that crap, that means u cant win unless u fake a romance.

[calipiano81]

Derek, on his own, was possibly the most demographically appealing of the pros. As a result, he ended up getting paired with a lot of demographically appealing celeb partners. (These days, Lindsay seems to have taken over this role.)

I don't know why it took me so long to figure out Derek's DWTS strategy when I must admit it is actually quite simple and logical...if it doesn't make the celeb look good, throw it out. So while the other pros spend (and sometimes waste) a lot of time teaching and training their celebs to perform certain techniques correctly, Derek will just incorporate into the choreography what his partner is naturally or capable of doing well right off the bat.

[truthaboutluv]

1 minute ago, calipiano81 said:

I don't know why it took me so long to figure out Derek's DWTS strategy when I must admit it is actually quite simple and logical...if it doesn't make the celeb look good, throw it out. So while the other pros spend (and sometimes waste) a lot of time teaching and training their celebs to perform certain techniques correctly, Derek will just incorporate into the choreography what his partner is naturally or capable of doing well right off the bat.

Basically. And you probably didn't figure it out because you were distracted by the years long narrative that he was "hiding his celebrities' flaws and weaknesses" like that was a bad thing. 

[Toonces464]

47 minutes ago, vdw84 said:

In fact I dont recall Derek ever going the showmance route

Maria Menounos says hi.

[truthaboutluv]

1 minute ago, Toonces464 said:

Maria Menounos says hi.

And Shannon Elizabeth, who he actually dated for two years. They've all been guilty of it. But he quickly realized what I've said, that showmances don't get people a win. As evidenced by none of his winning seasons having any showmance. 

[vdw84]

26 minutes ago, Toonces464 said:

Maria Menounos says hi.

Yeah, I remember that but I think it was more the producers and show shipping that than Derek himself. I knew Maria had a boyfriend at the time too, so I knew this whatever was going on wasnt real at all and the producers were just pushing it as much as they can.

55 minutes ago, calipiano81 said:

Derek, on his own, was possibly the most demographically appealing of the pros. As a result, he ended up getting paired with a lot of demographically appealing celeb partners. (These days, Lindsay seems to have taken over this role.)

I don't know why it took me so long to figure out Derek's DWTS strategy when I must admit it is actually quite simple and logical...if it doesn't make the celeb look good, throw it out. So while the other pros spend (and sometimes waste) a lot of time teaching and training their celebs to perform certain techniques correctly, Derek will just incorporate into the choreography what his partner is naturally or capable of doing well right off the bat.

He is def. what the demo goes for. He was never the bad boy or foreigner. He was the all American blonde white boy and he would get demo fave types and so would his sister. They were what this show was familiar with and comfortable with.

[calipiano81]

42 minutes ago, truthaboutluv said:

Basically. And you probably didn't figure it out because you were distracted by the years long narrative that he was "hiding his celebrities' flaws and weaknesses" like that was a bad thing. 

My only issue with this approach is that I equate it to a black dress. Most people appreciate a good black dress...it's flattering, practical, refined, and suitable for pretty much any occasion. Any design cuts or accessories will look good with it. When in doubt, you can't go wrong with a black dress.

However, I personally love colors, patterns, and interesting combinations in my wardrobe. I like clothes that show off a person's personality and uniqueness. Sometimes there are mismatches, but sometimes, when all the right elements come together, you get an outfit that is stunning, makes you stand out and grabs everyone's attention.

That's the difference between Derek and Mark for me.

[boyznkatz]

15 hours ago, BeeBop88 said:

I read on another site that on finale week, which is 2 days, the 1st day there will be 5 couples with a double elimination, and on the 2nd night there will be 3 couples. DWTS has a new show runner, so I think that is why things are done differently ( a new pro having a ringer, no elimination on Disney night when they have had eliminations on Disney night in the past, and a different way to do finale night.)

Oh joy, I guess that means we surely get stuck with Joe Bobby in the finals.

[realdancemom]

4 hours ago, calipiano81 said:

My only issue with this approach is that I equate it to a black dress. Most people appreciate a good black dress...it's flattering, practical, refined, and suitable for pretty much any occasion. Any design cuts or accessories will look good with it. When in doubt, you can't go wrong with a black dress.

However, I personally love colors, patterns, and interesting combinations in my wardrobe. I like clothes that show off a person's personality and uniqueness. Sometimes there are mismatches, but sometimes, when all the right elements come together, you get an outfit that is stunning, makes you stand out and grabs everyone's attention.

That's the difference between Derek and Mark for me.

I've agreed with a lot of your posts on Mark and Derek.  I appreciate both of them but they're different.  Mark is a lot more creative.  He knows how to capture his celebrity's personality.  Lindsey's symphony freestyle and Sadie's Mario Bros. freestyle were perfect for them.

Derek is the master of production.  He must have done team formation competitions as well as solo ones.  When he was a team captain, he worked really hard to make sure that his teams were synchronized in movement and costumes.  As others have mentioned, he choreographed to his partners' abilities.  He put their strengths and removed their weaknesses.  He was also a master at camera work, use of props, etc.  He really spends time thinking through all the details.

Since they are not there, I think Lindsay comes the closest to choreographing to her partners' strengths/weaknesses.  Her freestyles also capture their personalities.  Alek was not a good dancer but his Army freestyle was perfect for him.  I could say the same for David, Calvin, etc. 

[BeeBop88]

1 hour ago, boyznkatz said:

Oh joy, I guess that means we surely get stuck with Joe Bobby in the finals.

I hope not. Since we are gonna have 5 freestyles, I hope the couples are Alexis/Alan, Milo/Witney, Lindsay/DeMarcus, Juan Pablo/Cheryl and Evanna/Keo.  The elimination next week should be Joe, if there is any fairness in the world. If it's a double elimination, then it should be Joe and Bobby. To me, these two are the weakest dancers left. 

15 hours ago, vdw84 said:

I loved Mark but u could tell it always felt like he was trying to play catch up to Derek winning so many times on the show. I think he did feel inferior to him all on his own.  I notice on the season where he had Lindsay Sterling, he would bring up about only winning twice and would like win again and i was thinking dude, its pros that have been on years that havent even won yet and ur complaining because u havent won enough. I just think he wanted to Derek's status but never reached it and I think that truly bothered him.

For me, I felt like Mark was a better dancer, he had a soulful presence to him when he danced and I never got that from from Derek. Derek was a good dancer but I felt Mark felt the music  better and gets into character better.

So its going be 5 freestyles??

Yep, 5 freestyles on Monday night, followed by 2 eliminations, and then on Tuesday there will be the 3 finalists.  This is what Carrie Ann Inaba said somewhere, and the site where I read this at quoted her.

Edited October 25, 2018 by BeeBop88

[realdancemom]

4 minutes ago, BeeBop88 said:

I hope not. Since we are gonna have 5 freestyles, I hope the couples are Alexis/Alan, Milo/Witney, Lindsay/DeMarcus, Juan Pablo/Cheryl and Evanna/Keo.  The elimination next week should be Joe, if there is any fairness in the world. If it's a double elimination, then it should be Joe and Bobby. To me, these two are the weakest dancers left. 

Those are the five that I would want too.  But I don't think it's going to happen.  At least with five freestyles, we will get at least three good freestyles.  Four if we're lucky if either Joe and Bobby are gone.

[kitcloudkicker]

57 minutes ago, realdancemom said:

I've agreed with a lot of your posts on Mark and Derek.  I appreciate both of them but they're different.  Mark is a lot more creative.  He knows how to capture his celebrity's personality.  Lindsey's symphony freestyle and Sadie's Mario Bros. freestyle were perfect for them.

Derek is the master of production.  He must have done team formation competitions as well as solo ones.  When he was a team captain, he worked really hard to make sure that his teams were synchronized in movement and costumes.  As others have mentioned, he choreographed to his partners' abilities.  He put their strengths and removed their weaknesses.  He was also a master at camera work, use of props, etc.  He really spends time thinking through all the details.

Derek really understands what works on camera. It’s not surprising to me at all that he’s taken steps into directing.

Mark’s choreography, on the other hand, always seemed like it was meant for the stage. Some of his wild swings that didn’t quite work always seemed to me like things that would be wonderful on Broadway, that just didn’t quite film as well. Like his Alice in Wonderland dance. (And fittingly, Broadway is where he’s been lately.)

Edited October 25, 2018 by kitcloudkicker

[BeeBop88]

21 minutes ago, realdancemom said:

Those are the five that I would want too.  But I don't think it's going to happen.  At least with five freestyles, we will get at least three good freestyles.  Four if we're lucky if either Joe and Bobby are gone.

Sadly, you are probably right. I think perhaps the only couple that has a lock on the finale is Milo/Witney. I used to include DeMarcus/Lindsay in with them, but their jeopardy this past week has made me wonder. I really don't know if that jeopardy was for real, or if it was just a joke done on them by the producers. I could see where Alexis/Alan might need votes, but usually the football guys have a ton of voters that don't waiver in their support. That is what makes me lean to thinking that DeMarcus was not in jeopardy.  But who really knows, TPTB love to play mind games.

[vdw84]

47 minutes ago, realdancemom said:

Those are the five that I would want too.  But I don't think it's going to happen.  At least with five freestyles, we will get at least three good freestyles.  Four if we're lucky if either Joe and Bobby are gone.

If Alan and Alexis keep this annoying and fake showmance going, then they can go for all I care. I hate tuning into a show when they have contestants do this, esp. when u know its so fake. Im not here for it. 

[boyznkatz]

6 minutes ago, vdw84 said:

If Alan and Alexis keep this annoying and fake showmance going, then they can go for all I care. I hate tuning into a show when they have contestants do this, esp. when u know its so fake. Im not here for it. 

Yeah, that package was major vomit-inducing last week. She's still a good dancer, though. There is always You Tube.

Honestly I don't think I could sit through a final where two of the acts were Joe Bob. I wonder how the ratings are going to be for that one?

[calipiano81]

Dances/Songs for Week 6 Halloween Night:

 

Alexis & Alan – Jazz (Song: “Candyman” by Christina Aguilera )

Juan Pablo & Cheryl –  Jive (Song: “Dead Man’s Party” by Atwater Men’s Club)

DeMarcus & Lindsay – Salsa (Song: “Under Your Spell” by Leo Soul)

Evanna & Keo –  Tango (Song: “Disturbia” by Rihanna)

Joe & Jenna – Argentine Tango (Song: “El Tango de Roxanne” from “Moulin Rouge”)

Mary Lou & Sasha – Tango (Song: “Shame” by Elle King)

John & Emma – Paso Doblé (Song: “Main Titles” from “Beetlejuice,” by Ray Chew Live)

Bobby & Sharna – Argentine Tango (Song: “Mr. Sandman” by SYM)

Milo & Witney – Contemporary (Song: “Toxic” by 2WEI)

[vdw84]

Lord, Jesus Joe got and Argentine Tango, I cant wait to see this disaster of a dance, the good thing is Jenna can just have him be a post while he lift her around but poor dude cant even lift good, lol.

 

Evanna and Keo got a dope song, I hope their dance do it justice.

Edited October 25, 2018 by vdw84

[lavenderblue]

So what I'm getting from Alexis and Alan and Joe and Jenna's numbers is that someone in production just rewatched the pairs and dance events from Pyeongchang. (Oh Joe. Ohhhhh Joe.)

[vdw84]

10 hours ago, lavenderblue said:

So what I'm getting from Alexis and Alan and Joe and Jenna's numbers is that someone in production just rewatched the pairs and dance events from Pyeongchang. (Oh Joe. Ohhhhh Joe.)

Im confused on what ur saying.

[crowceilidh]

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someone in production just rewatched the pairs and dance events from Pyeongchang

It actually might be a useful way of sussing out how different songs work and how commercially available they are...  OTOH I can't stand it when skaters use the same music as each other and I tend to dislike it when DWTS recycles songs, so maybe there will eventually be a crossover effect where I can't stand it when ballroom dancers and skaters use the same music.

I was thinking yesterday that Lindsay may have been an excellent pairs figure skater because of her love of flying.  Reminds me of Barb Underhill.

[lavenderblue]

1 hour ago, vdw84 said:

Im confused on what ur saying.

At the Pyeongchang Olympics, "Candyman" was skated to by the fourth-place pair, Evgenia Tarasova and Vladimir Morozov (who were in second place after the short program which used that song), and "El Tango de Roxanne" was skated to by champion ice dancers Tessa Virtue and Scott Moir. My comment about Joe was alluding to the fact that Joe is going to look especially terrible in comparison to V/M, in this specific example.

No nefarious intent here, I'm just a skating nerd so the coincidence tickled me!

[boyznkatz]

13 minutes ago, lavenderblue said:

At the Pyeongchang Olympics, "Candyman" was skated to by the fourth-place pair, Evgenia Tarasova and Vladimir Morozov (who were in second place after the short program which used that song), and "El Tango de Roxanne" was skated to by champion ice dancers Tessa Virtue and Scott Moir. My comment about Joe was alluding to the fact that Joe is going to look especially terrible in comparison to V/M, in this specific example.

No nefarious intent here, I'm just a skating nerd so the coincidence tickled me!

Interesting, now that you mention it...

I think Virtue/Moir would be great on this show. 

[gohawks]

On 10/25/2018 at 6:05 AM, calipiano81 said:

Derek, on his own, was possibly the most demographically appealing of the pros. As a result, he ended up getting paired with a lot of demographically appealing celeb partners. (These days, Lindsay seems to have taken over this role.)

I don't know why it took me so long to figure out Derek's DWTS strategy when I must admit it is actually quite simple and logical...if it doesn't make the celeb look good, throw it out. So while the other pros spend (and sometimes waste) a lot of time teaching and training their celebs to perform certain techniques correctly, Derek will just incorporate into the choreography what his partner is naturally or capable of doing well right off the bat.

And this is why I cannot stand him.

 

I want to see dancing. Ballroom dancing.  Not table-dancing, skirt-swishing (his go-to move for rhythm-challenged celebs )or synchronized hand-clapping.  

 

 I am so glad he is gone.

Edited October 27, 2018 by gohawks

[vdw84]

57 minutes ago, gohawks said:

And this is why I cannot stand him.

 

I want to see dancing. Ballroom dancing.  Not table-dancing, skirt-swishing or synchronized hand-clapping.  

 

 I am so glad he is gone.

Derek was talented but so is a number of pros. I never really got his hype. I actually thought Mark ballas was more talented but I felt he wasnt as favored as much as Derek, maybe becuase he wasnt the blonde blue all american boy that demo goes crazy for.

Edited October 26, 2018 by vdw84

[boyznkatz]

All the male pros to me are annoying except Tony, Artem and Keo.  They are all great choreographers, but I don't miss them.

I don't find any of the women annoying except Julianne, who is big time annoying.

It doesn't bother me that any of them are gone. I just think they need to get some more interesting stars. I've always watched for the celebs and their journeys, not the pros.

Edited October 26, 2018 by boyznkatz

[calipiano81]

For me, the pros have always been the "stars" in "Dancing with the Stars" and the celebs are the guests for each season. The pros do at least three times the work as the celebs - not only dancing themselves, but teaching, choreographing, making artistic decisions, and serving as the rock of support for their partners. Unless they are consistently doing a poor job, IMO it would be a bit disrespectful to consider the pros expendable and replaceable.

I don't think the show would be as successful as it is or generate as much discussion throughout the years if they changed the pro roster every season. Fans get invested in and get passionate over what is familiar. We get to know these pros, we know their histories, their track records, and we see them evolve. I think it is inevitable that many of us will get attached and look forward to seeing our favorite pros each season. And when our favorites don't win, at least there is the consolation and hope for the next new season.

Edited October 26, 2018 by calipiano81

[BrainyBlonde]

So, no team dances for Halloween this year? That's disappointing. I always look forward to those. I'm not sure why they wouldn't do them this year since they've still got nine couples. How else are they going to fill out a two-hour show?

[vdw84]

3 hours ago, BrainyBlonde said:

So, no team dances for Halloween this year? That's disappointing. I always look forward to those. I'm not sure why they wouldn't do them this year since they've still got nine couples. How else are they going to fill out a two-hour show?

They probably wouldnt be good anyway. They have too many novices left in the competition. 

[calipiano81]

There will be a couple of guest performances this Monday (I heard Jabbawockeez and Twitch+crew) to fill up the time.

Nine couples are too many for team dances; in the past it's been 6-8 couples. If they had gone through with the elimination on Disney night or had done the double elimination in Week 2 as planned, I think we would most likely have had the Halloween Team Dances.

Edited October 28, 2018 by calipiano81

[howmanywords]

Juan Pablo posted on his insta-story that he and Cheryl are going last. I love the song they have and I've always enjoyed Cheryl's jives so I hope this ends up as good as I'm hoping. He also mentioned an opening number.

[vdw84]

1 hour ago, howmanywords said:

Juan Pablo posted on his insta-story that he and Cheryl are going last. I love the song they have and I've always enjoyed Cheryl's jives so I hope this ends up as good as I'm hoping. He also mentioned an opening number.

Karina is by far the best female jiver dwts has had. Cheryl is ok

[Dancelove]

On 10/26/2018 at 1:29 PM, boyznkatz said:

Interesting, now that you mention it...

I think Virtue/Moir would be great on this show. 

They would be amazing, especially Tessa. She is probably better than most of the pros when it comes to versatility.  She has extensive ballet and was debating continuing skating or going to the National Ballet.  Glad she chose skating.  Unlike Meryl she would point her toes in contemporary.  And Her arms are so beautifully expressive- now she's doing hip hop on a daily basis..she would probably be one of the best they've ever had on the show. But since this show doesn't allow Canada to vote anymore she'd be booted off in favour of some WWF star.   

[Dancelove]

3 hours ago, vdw84 said:

Karina is by far the best female jiver dwts has had. Cheryl is ok

Karina is pretty great, but I had a new found respect for Cheryl when she and Louis Van Amstel did a pro jive.  It was nothing short of phenomenal.  No jumping off of tables, just Jive. 

[vdw84]

1 hour ago, Dancelove said:

Karina is pretty great, but I had a new found respect for Cheryl when she and Louis Van Amstel did a pro jive.  It was nothing short of phenomenal.  No jumping off of tables, just Jive. 

Karina has speed that the other female pros dont have. Her speed is crazy in the jive.

[Dancelove]

7 hours ago, vdw84 said:

Karina has speed that the other female pros dont have. Her speed is crazy in the jive.

Yeah but this was Cheryl, her and Louis were lighting fast on this one. 

[vdw84]

5 hours ago, Dancelove said:

Yeah but this was Cheryl, her and Louis were lighting fast on this one. 

was this the jive?? It looked like the cha cha cha.

[realdancemom]

19 hours ago, vdw84 said:

Karina is by far the best female jiver dwts has had. Cheryl is ok

Karina was my favorite Latin dancer from all of them.  I haven't watched the Cheryl/Louis clip yet for comparison.  However, when Cheryl and Karina were in trios, I remember Karina looking so much sharper and better.  Mark was really good at the jive.  Louis had crazy hips so I remember that.

[vdw84]

31 minutes ago, realdancemom said:

Karina was my favorite Latin dancer from all of them.  I haven't watched the Cheryl/Louis clip yet for comparison.  However, when Cheryl and Karina were in trios, I remember Karina looking so much sharper and better.  Mark was really good at the jive.  Louis had crazy hips so I remember that.

Yes, Mark, Val and Alan are great jivers for the male. I was looking at Brandon too, I think he is really good too, he is fast and on his feet. Louis is underrated, he is such a great dancer.

33 minutes ago, realdancemom said:

Karina was my favorite Latin dancer from all of them.  I haven't watched the Cheryl/Louis clip yet for comparison.  However, when Cheryl and Karina were in trios, I remember Karina looking so much sharper and better.  Mark was really good at the jive.  Louis had crazy hips so I remember that.

I like Cheryls tangos and sambas, I think those are her strengths. I never have been to fund of her jives. She isnt sharp or fast enough.

[gohawks]

1 hour ago, vdw84 said:

was this the jive?? It looked like the cha cha cha.

That was not a jive.

[vdw84]

13 minutes ago, gohawks said:

That was not a jive.

I didnt think it was. That was clearly a cha cha cha, I knew I wasnt confused, lol.

[calipiano81]

Dance order for tonight's Halloween dances, per George P:

Milo, John, Demarcus, Evanna, Bobby, Mary Lou, Alexis, Joe, Juan Pablo

[BeeBop88]

1 hour ago, calipiano81 said:

Dance order for tonight's Halloween dances, per George P:

Milo, John, Demarcus, Evanna, Bobby, Mary Lou, Alexis, Joe, Juan Pablo

Crapola! Why is Joe  towards the end of the show again? Put him 1st and get it done with.  I find Joe's dancing equivalent to getting a tooth pulled.  Milo dancing first? Really? Milo has been in the beginning for weeks. DeMarcus dancing 3rd?? YIKES! I sure hope Joe is eliminated tonight. I noticed in the press release, ABC didn't even mention an elimination. Maybe just an oversight, maybe not.

[BeeBop88]

On ‎10‎/‎28‎/‎2018 at 3:08 PM, vdw84 said:

Karina is by far the best female jiver dwts has had. Cheryl is ok

Not only is Karina one of the most talented pro dancers DWTS has ever had, she is a smart cookie too. Anytime I see Karina on TV or is mentioned, I can't help to think how she really dodged a bullet by not marrying Maks.  Although, I do wonder how she ever got herself into dating him in the first place. Maks was head over heels in love with Karina, she was the total package as far as he was concerned. He had a major crush on her for a long time. But Karina did not like how controlling he could be, plus the "fam" constantly tagging along with them, anywhere they went. It was a good thing for Karina that she was so clear eyed and could see she could not accept these things.

[Toonces464]

2 hours ago, BeeBop88 said:

Not only is Karina one of the most talented pro dancers DWTS has ever had, she is a smart cookie too. Anytime I see Karina on TV or is mentioned, I can't help to think how she really dodged a bullet by not marrying Maks.  Although, I do wonder how she ever got herself into dating him in the first place. Maks was head over heels in love with Karina, she was the total package as far as he was concerned. He had a major crush on her for a long time. But Karina did not like how controlling he could be, plus the "fam" constantly tagging along with them, anywhere they went. It was a good thing for Karina that she was so clear eyed and could see she could not accept these things.

And lucky for Maks that Peta is so weak, clingy and pathetic and was willing to sit around for two years waiting for him to settle for her.

[legaleagle53]

On 10/28/2018 at 5:03 PM, Dancelove said:

Karina is pretty great, but I had a new found respect for Cheryl when she and Louis Van Amstel did a pro jive.  It was nothing short of phenomenal.  No jumping off of tables, just Jive. 

That was a Cha-Cha, not a Jive.  But seeing Louis dance with Cheryl reminded me of when he'd do powerful routines like this with his original (and in my view, best) dance partner, Julie Fryer.  THEY were a couple to watch!

[Lady Calypso]

Bringing the discussion about the team dances over here, since it's more on topic here. I guess I'm automatically rooting for the Milo, Evanna, Bobby, and John team. Not that I like Bobby much at all, but I adore the other three.