Janelle Brown: Smarter Than Your Average Brown (Maybe)

[VedaPierce]

I don't believe Janelle is at all working out regularly. If she was, by now she wouldn't be complaining about it, by now she would be craving it! If she was a regular at the gym, she would be pushing people out of her way to get at that cycling machine. 

I live in an area where most of the people are extremely fit (and yes, it can get intimidating on occasion), right after hurricane sandy blew through, everyone here lost power for weeks. Every business every home. Not many were set up with generators yet, and there was a gas shortage too, so the gas generators weren't really used a lot either. I couldn't get over the people I saw walking, running, power walking in the streets the next day! I wanted to scream at them, "don't you have more important things to think about than your precious workouts?!?!?" Lol. But nope. They weren't deterred from working out! It amazed, angered, then impressed me in that order.

[ginger90]

43 minutes ago, DakotaJustice said:

One post is talking about "family demands" but then here she admits that her kids (the two left at home that is) don't like salad but they're "old enough to fix a sandwich" (7 years old?).

Again - even counting all four of the families there are three under the age of 10 and none of them are hers. 

Savanah is about 13, and probably goes to Christine’s. I would !! 

[laurakaye]

9 hours ago, VedaPierce said:

Blah, blah, freakin blah. 

"Balance, sanity, clarity, energy, peace". Words just strung together, with no inspiration, meaningless useless word salad.

See? I can do it too! Joyful, harmonious , authentic, spiritual retreat.

Useless, banal platitudes, inspiring no one, ever. 

Hey, is this a haiku??

Ooh ooh haiku pick me pick me!

 

"hard, hard, it's so hard

complaining is easier

make checks out to Strive."

 

"Out to get the mail

Yikes!  Quick!  Run, here comes Meri!

Exercise complete."

 

"It's too hot to move.

Kody heads down the cuddle-sac

Quick!  Hide!  It's nap time!"

 

"Peace!  Care!  Motivate!

Stretch!  Move!  To the gym, you!

make checks out to Strive."

 

10 hours ago, ginger90 said:

I realize that Janelle is no English major, but "Kids old enough to make a sandwich but some did pick at least" is not a sentence.  If you fancy yourself any kind of "coach," maybe proofread your nonsense before posting.

Also, my kids were making themselves a sandwich around age 7.  Janelle's kids are way past the age where they are "old enough" to make a sandwich.  Give me a break, that's just more of her negative whiny babble-speak.  Like if they weren't old enough to make a sandwich, she'd be forced to cook them all a plate of fat-laden crap and that's why she can't lose any weight, but since they are, she has no excuse but to make something decent for herself.  Crap, all of it.  

Edited June 26, 2018 by laurakaye

[Kohola3]

1 hour ago, VedaPierce said:

If you think you're being judged at the gym, get out of your own head. Because that's the only place you're being judged. 

Um, well, unless you've overheard the snarky comments.  

[VedaPierce]

12 minutes ago, Kohola3 said:

Um, well, unless you've overheard the snarky comments.  

I would go Bear on them. Seriously. 

[Kohola3]

9 minutes ago, VedaPierce said:

I would go Bear on them. Seriously. 

Not everyone is comfortable confronting strangers, especially in this day and age when people end up getting killed over comments!

[VedaPierce]

15 minutes ago, Kohola3 said:

Not everyone is comfortable confronting strangers, especially in this day and age when people end up getting killed over comments!

You’re absolutely right. Something I have to remind myself constantly. 

[MillenialMom]

Ok, I love reading the snark, but don't knock Janelle for feeling self-conscious at the gym. You're snarking on her right here Heaven's sakes!

[VedaPierce]

40 minutes ago, MillenialMom said:

Ok, I love reading the snark, but don't knock Janelle for feeling self-conscious at the gym. You're snarking on her right here Heaven's sakes!

I’m snarking on her FAKE healthy lifestyle. I’m snarking on the NERVE she has plenty of, to try and charge me money for advice on something she so clearly knows nothing about, for Heaven’s sakes! And for her boring brown plates full of food that is not simple, not appetizing, not inspirational. Watermelon on a brown plate. Wow. Here, let me write you a check for $35! Oh, wait, tell me more about how haaaarrrrd it is to get to the gym, how even though you don’t have a 9-5, or babies at home, how too busy you are to schedule a workout. Even though you WANT TO CHARGE ME $$ to tell me all about working out! Are you kidding me? No, really. Are you kidding? Her feeling self conscious at the gym is irrelevant. That’s not why I’m here posting.  Making fun of someone overweight trying at the gym is not snarking. That is stupidity, and people who do that are knuckle-dragging apes. I’m making fun of her delusional choice at a money making venture. If she was charging a fee for daily complaining and excuse-making, then taking a nap, I could get behind that. She’s a perfect fit for that. And she’s the end result. Healthy Lifestyle? Not so much. 

Edited June 26, 2018 by VedaPierce

[Natalie68]

On 6/24/2018 at 12:52 PM, Galloway Cave said:

"It's soooo harrrd". Again, it is so exhausting to be Janelle. Not another word from any of them about Strong Women or empowered or how polygamy makes them better as women. She is so defeated.

When I see a heavier person walking or working out, my first thought is "Good job! Keep it up!" I have never, ever had a negative thought towards anyone working out or enjoying their life. In the gym, most people are too involved with their own workouts to even notice someone else on a piece of equipment (unless said person is hogging the piece they want).

You know what Janelle? Go on Craigslist and buy a used spin cycle (apparently you have the money right now). Put it in one of your 9 rooms. Spin to your heart's content without freaking out every time.

When I was really heavy (close to 200lbs 19 years ago) I first started at the campus gym.  In a huge gym of 18 year olds, I never felt weird.  They were in their own world (my only issue was seeing my students there who I may have just dropped from their major,YIKES!).  I moved to Golds and people there really did leave you alone but were quick to help if you had a  question.  My body changed a lot and I got a ton of support from some of the guys there who taught me how to use certain machines.  People have a finite amount of time at the gym and they aren't going to waste time staring at someone who is starting their fitness regime.  I do have to admit that the Jan 1st crowd was always a bit irritating due to overcrowding on the cardio machines.  It was crowded for about a month and then it went back to normal.  

Seriously all Janelle would have to do is laps/stairs around her giant house and get more movement that she does on the regular.  A lot of people feel lazy as soon as they get off work (something she doesn't have to worry about) but still manage to put on their workout clothes and just do it.  I did tweet her to try WW but I only got a like from some fitness/lifestyle account.  Frankly if I were Janelle I would be hitting up WW for a possible endorsement op.  Maybe she wouldn't replace Oprah on tv but people may check her blog to see how she was doing.  Now its like visiting Debbie Downers page.

Edited June 26, 2018 by Natalie68

[Natalie68]

5 hours ago, Kohola3 said:

Um, well, unless you've overheard the snarky comments.  

That is just awful!  I have to say I never heard any chatter like that when I was at the gym when I was either fat or thin.  But then again I did have my music on blast and nose in a book when doing cardio.

1 hour ago, MillenialMom said:

Ok, I love reading the snark, but don't knock Janelle for feeling self-conscious at the gym. You're snarking on her right here Heaven's sakes!

Because this is a snark site and she sells herself as a professional.  I wouldn't say anything if she didn't market herself as a coach and constantly whine about how hard it is to work out and eat healthfully when this is how she wants to earn her living.  That said, I think I would love her salad dressing above.  

[neh]

I belong to a YMCA and years ago when I decided to add weights to my workout, I had to use the weight room with hard core MEN.  They looked at me with wonder.  I am a short, fat, middle aged  woman (and I am sick about it, ?! ) The only negative comments I got  came from my son, who told me never to say hello to him if we worked out at the same time. HA!  I would always go over and give him a big kiss.

[gunderda]

some years ago I decided to try WW on my own, found the point calculations and all that, and I did pretty well, lost some weight.  Same thing with just plain calorie counting... however I really suck at sticking to something long term.  I hate having to check foods all the time or constantly keep track.  

But I don't believe for a minute that Janelle does this healthy eating all the time.  There's just no way she wouldn't be losing weight. Large portions are my downfall. I love large amounts of food. And there aren't a lot of healthy foods that I like, except cooked veggies and salads.  And sometimes I will eat healthy salads (with low calorie dressing) but I really love creamy dressings and I don't particularly like the taste of plain lettuce lol  Let's just say I like a little lettuce with my dressing.

I think Janelle thinks she's trying to be helpful with her posts but as someone who's also been trying to lose weight off and on over years, they are just down right annoying. 

[xwordfanatik]

3 hours ago, Natalie68 said:

When I was really heavy (close to 200lbs 19 years ago) I first started at the campus gym.  In a huge gym of 18 year olds, I never felt weird.  They were in their own world (my only issue was seeing my students there who I may have just dropped from their major,YIKES!).  I moved to Golds and people there really did leave you alone but were quick to help if you had a  question.  My body changed a lot and I got a ton of support from some of the guys there who taught me how to use certain machines.  People have a finite amount of time at the gym and they aren't going to waste time staring at someone who is starting their fitness regime.  I do have to admit that the Jan 1st crowd was always a bit irritating due to overcrowding on the cardio machines.  It was crowded for about a month and then it went back to normal.  

Seriously all Janelle would have to do is laps/stairs around her giant house and get more movement that she does on the regular.  A lot of people feel lazy as soon as they get off work (something she doesn't have to worry about) but still manage to put on their workout clothes and just do it.  I did tweet her to try WW but I only got a like from some fitness/lifestyle account.  Frankly if I were Janelle I would be hitting up WW for a possible endorsement op.  Maybe she wouldn't replace Oprah on tv but people may check her blog to see how she was doing.  Now its like visiting Debbie Downers page.

Or Little Debbie.  

You are so right, though.  She could get her butt out of bed and walk before it heats up, just like I do.  In the really hot months, the gym is there.  Even when I weighed almost 250, I didn't give a hoot about anyone staring at me.  Just put your music on and DO IT.

One thing she is NOT is anyone to aspire to.  Cook up another money-making idea.  Pick something you can actually do, Janelle.  Doofus is always at the ready with grifty ideas, isn't he?

[Pickleinthemiddle]

3 hours ago, gunderda said:

some years ago I decided to try WW on my own, found the point calculations and all that, and I did pretty well, lost some weight.  Same thing with just plain calorie counting... however I really suck at sticking to something long term.  I hate having to check foods all the time or constantly keep track.  

But I don't believe for a minute that Janelle does this healthy eating all the time.  There's just no way she wouldn't be losing weight. Large portions are my downfall. I love large amounts of food. And there aren't a lot of healthy foods that I like, except cooked veggies and salads.  And sometimes I will eat healthy salads (with low calorie dressing) but I really love creamy dressings and I don't particularly like the taste of plain lettuce lol  Let's just say I like a little lettuce with my dressing.

I think Janelle thinks she's trying to be helpful with her posts but as someone who's also been trying to lose weight off and on over years, they are just down right annoying. 

Same here.  I have gone to a whole foods plant based diet.  No salt, oil or sugar.  I still enter all my food in my fitness pal, so I can keep an eye on what I'm eating.  I'm stuffed every day and rarely go over the calories 1,200, i set for my self after entering my physical activity for the day.  I still consume carbs like low carb pita bread, potatoes, brown rice, quinoa, beans and lentils.  Lost 10 pounds the first week.  

[VedaPierce]

3 hours ago, Natalie68 said:

When I was really heavy (close to 200lbs 19 years ago) I first started at the campus gym.  In a huge gym of 18 year olds, I never felt weird.  They were in their own world (my only issue was seeing my students there who I may have just dropped from their major,YIKES!).  I moved to Golds and people there really did leave you alone but were quick to help if you had a  question.  My body changed a lot and I got a ton of support from some of the guys there who taught me how to use certain machines.  People have a finite amount of time at the gym and they aren't going to waste time staring at someone who is starting their fitness regime.  I do have to admit that the Jan 1st crowd was always a bit irritating due to overcrowding on the cardio machines.  It was crowded for about a month and then it went back to normal.  

Seriously all Janelle would have to do is laps/stairs around her giant house and get more movement that she does on the regular.  A lot of people feel lazy as soon as they get off work (something she doesn't have to worry about) but still manage to put on their workout clothes and just do it.  I did tweet her to try WW but I only got a like from some fitness/lifestyle account.  Frankly if I were Janelle I would be hitting up WW for a possible endorsement op.  Maybe she wouldn't replace Oprah on tv but people may check her blog to see how she was doing.  Now its like visiting Debbie Downers page.

I agree with everything you posted! If someone is commenting on a stranger at the gym, who is doing nothing but trying to work out, there is mental illness at play. 

WW will not seek janelle’s endorsement because WW wil expect RESULTS, something Janelle with her myriad of excuses will never accomplish. She is not serious about losing weight. If she doesn’t understand that she can throw together an easy snack like turkey or yogurt and a banana, or allow herself a slice of margarita pizza and salad with her family, but instead worries about food prep constantly, and keeps trying to impress with the exotic, she’s a lost cause. 

[Kohola3]

38 minutes ago, VedaPierce said:

If someone is commenting on a stranger at the gym, who is doing nothing but trying to work out, there is mental illness at play. 

Well, sadly, there are no filters anymore.  Just witness videos of people screaming at Hispanics (even those born in the US) to get the hell out of American and "go home".  So making fun of overweight people in a gym is apparently allowed as I have witnessed it.  So, as much as it pains me to say it, I can sympathize with Janelle to a point.

With that said, her Eeyore routine wears thin after the umpteenth bemoaning of her horrible life in a week.  I wouldn't give her a dollar to explain to me how to cross the street let alone STRIVE.

[DakotaJustice]

7 hours ago, MillenialMom said:

Ok, I love reading the snark, but don't knock Janelle for feeling self-conscious at the gym. You're snarking on her right here Heaven's sakes!

Well to start with, it's the snarky audience that has kept Sister Wives on the air for much longer than they would have if they'd just relied on their "fan base" so there's that.

Also, what everyone else said.  She's holding herself out there as a "certified health coach" but she has such a defeatist attitude.  Some of her "advice" is just out and out WRONG.  Eeyore is a perfect name for her. 

If she feels uncomfortable at her gym then she probably needs to find another gym.  She's been going to gyms since 2011.  Any discomfort should be gone.  If she's afraid she'll hear cutting remarks that might hurt her wittle feelings, then get some headphones and tune out everyone, just like EVERYONE ELSE AT THE GYM IS DOING.  

I think now that her kids are gone and she really doesn't have an actual job (if she was a full time real estate agent she'd have open houses and sale homes plastered all over the internet - most full time realtors I know are incredibly busy) she's at loose ends and she's depressed for that reason.  Janelle would probably be happy with an office job like she used to have but I'm guessing Kody nixed that idea since they're *celebrities*.  

But it comes down to her trying to do something that she's eminently unqualified to do.  Not necessarily because she's still heavy/obese - look at Oprah Winfrey. She's been able to inspire people even when she's been on the heavy side as well as when she got into athletic shape back in 1993.  Janelle's no Oprah.

1 hour ago, VedaPierce said:

I agree with everything you posted! If someone is commenting on a stranger at the gym, who is doing nothing but trying to work out, there is mental illness at play. 

WW will not seek janelle’s endorsement because WW wil expect RESULTS, something Janelle with her myriad of excuses will never accomplish. She is not serious about losing weight. If she doesn’t understand that she can throw together an easy snack like turkey or yogurt and a banana, or allow herself a slice of margarita pizza and salad with her family, but instead worries about food prep constantly, and keeps trying to impress with the exotic, she’s a lost cause. 

If she hears people commenting on her (and she never said she did, any voices are in her head) then she needs to talk to gym management.  They WILL do something about it.

One thing Janelle never blogs about is portion control.  So she'd suck at WW.

[neh]

Lets face it....Janelle just sucks.  However, all the Browns have a fan following of sycophants, which loves anything they do.

[DakotaJustice]

I'm a member at 24 hour fitness - returning member that is. 

When I was a member in the 1990s/early 2000s there weren't enough cardio machines particularly during peak season (Jan to mid Feb). 

Nowadays it's much changed. There are rows and rows of them. I've always been able to snag an elliptical no matter what time I show up.

[Natalie68]

18 hours ago, Pickleinthemiddle said:

Same here.  I have gone to a whole foods plant based diet.  No salt, oil or sugar.  I still enter all my food in my fitness pal, so I can keep an eye on what I'm eating.  I'm stuffed every day and rarely go over the calories 1,200, i set for my self after entering my physical activity for the day.  I still consume carbs like low carb pita bread, potatoes, brown rice, quinoa, beans and lentils.  Lost 10 pounds the first week.  

CONGRATS!  I think that is one of the keys.  Keeping track of everything.  I have discovered in my household *I* am the bad influence re food since I am the shopper and donuts just don't wander in from the street plus I have discovered how lazy I am re eating if I am not totally on the ball and watching it.  My husband lost 15 lbs because *I* am in weight loss mode FFS.  There was my proof right there it was me all along that made us gain weight.  HA!  Have you tried (I think this is the brand) La Tortilla Factory whole wheat/low carb tortillas?  These puppies are low fat and have 13 grams of fiber each!  I don't have the carbs handy so I am not sure what that is.  I have found my new tortilla.

@VedaPierce You are right.  They would expect results.  I may be a bit PollyAnna but I know she could do it if she were truly motivated.  I mean, if Bad Influence Natalie can, surely she could.  I also think she is in the mode that this must be a traditional meal rather than putting together something that gives her nutrition and is easy/filling.  I find people tend to eat the same thing all the time be it bad for you or healthy for you so pick a few good things to have on rotation, prep it all as best you can, and roll with it.  Once you are used to it it becomes easier to branch out.  If she really isn't motivated, give up the ghost, eat the best she can, and just accept she is that size.  I imagine her inner voice is always berating her.  I always tell myself when I gain weight it's because I allowed it and I know better.  Then I fix it with minimal whining and hand wringing.  I mean its not a surprise that a 50 box of Munchkins will end up on my ass!

@Kohola3 I agree people are lacking filters.  I find that terrible that strangers feel its appropriate to say whatever they want to anyone.  I also think the gym should be a sacred place away from all of that because everyone has the same goal to get fit, maybe lose weight and live a better life.  Keep that nasty shit out of there.  Believe me, if I ever saw/heard something like that I would do or say something.  Everyone deserves respect and acceptance.  

I know I snark incessantly about these people.  My goal isn't to be mean and it is really just venting about some of the idiocy.  They sell themselves as happy (we know they aren't) and Janelle markets herself as an expert in this field and is taking some poor saps hard earned money for some meme's and unrealistic recipes.  Don't get me started on the LuLaRo bs.  Way to take your kids gf's money, Maddie's $, and the poor sap buying ugly leggings Meri!

[Natalie68]

13 hours ago, DakotaJustice said:

I'm a member at 24 hour fitness - returning member that is. 

When I was a member in the 1990s/early 2000s there weren't enough cardio machines particularly during peak season (Jan to mid Feb). 

Nowadays it's much changed. There are rows and rows of them. I've always been able to snag an elliptical no matter what time I show up.

Good to know!  I am thinking about rejoining Golds and I am probably waiting until the time changes and I cannot go for walks anymore.  We live in a hilly area so it is a good workout combined with home weights but I am not walking alone at night (I am a klutz).  I am also toying with the student gym again.  Its dirt cheap which is appealing.  

[lookeyloo]

I find I am Not Motivated unless I am in a class.  We are using a family YMCA and it really is families.  I call the men "almost men", and include Mr. lookeyloo in this.  They are not hulks and never seem on the prowl, and every once in a while one of them will be in one of the classes I take.  No one notices or cares.  Saw one of the instructors in the bathroom yesterday.  We talked about "not feeling like it" or "not motivated today" and how we have to get there anyway and then the rest takes care of itself.  She says some days she is not motivated either.  I have often made myself drive over there and think as I am walking in, well, if I make 5 minutes of the class I will feel successful and end up staying for the duration.  It is a mind game for sure.  I am not motivated all the time, or half the time, or even 3/4 the time, but, consider it my "job" now that I am retired.  It was harder when I worked.  Speaking of which, Janelle talks about working.  What in the F does she do?  

[DakotaJustice]

3 hours ago, lookeyloo said:

I find I am Not Motivated unless I am in a class.  We are using a family YMCA and it really is families.  I call the men "almost men", and include Mr. lookeyloo in this.  They are not hulks and never seem on the prowl, and every once in a while one of them will be in one of the classes I take.  No one notices or cares.  Saw one of the instructors in the bathroom yesterday.  We talked about "not feeling like it" or "not motivated today" and how we have to get there anyway and then the rest takes care of itself.  She says some days she is not motivated either.  I have often made myself drive over there and think as I am walking in, well, if I make 5 minutes of the class I will feel successful and end up staying for the duration.  It is a mind game for sure.  I am not motivated all the time, or half the time, or even 3/4 the time, but, consider it my "job" now that I am retired.  It was harder when I worked.  Speaking of which, Janelle talks about working.  What in the F does she do?  

I taught a BodyPump derivative for 8 years and I loved hearing comments like this one!  Classes SHOULD be fun and motivating, the community and camaraderie is such a key factor.

[Gothish520]

4 hours ago, lookeyloo said:

I find I am Not Motivated unless I am in a class.  We are using a family YMCA and it really is families.  I call the men "almost men", and include Mr. lookeyloo in this.  They are not hulks and never seem on the prowl, and every once in a while one of them will be in one of the classes I take.  No one notices or cares.  Saw one of the instructors in the bathroom yesterday.  We talked about "not feeling like it" or "not motivated today" and how we have to get there anyway and then the rest takes care of itself.  She says some days she is not motivated either.  I have often made myself drive over there and think as I am walking in, well, if I make 5 minutes of the class I will feel successful and end up staying for the duration.  It is a mind game for sure.  I am not motivated all the time, or half the time, or even 3/4 the time, but, consider it my "job" now that I am retired.  It was harder when I worked.  Speaking of which, Janelle talks about working.  What in the F does she do?  

Well to be fair to Janelle, a lot of her posts are basically saying the same thing - that it is hard to find the motivation and energy to make it to gym/yoga class, but she pushes through and goes anyway, and is glad that she did. I think she is trying to be relatable to people and show them that even though it is hard to go to the gym/work out at home/make healthy meals,  it is worth the effort.

If she were posting pictures of herself making real headway, and/or if at least some of her posts were along the lines of "woke up feeling great today, so I headed to spin class to keep the momentum going - starting to see the results of all of my hard work!", then I think she would not be getting so much negative feedback from her endeavors.

[Pickleinthemiddle]

Thanks Natalie68.  I've never heard of those tortillas, will have to look for them.  

[ginger90]

[suomi]

8 hours ago, Pickleinthemiddle said:

Thanks Natalie68.  I've never heard of those tortillas, will have to look for them.  

Me too, because if I have a tortilla the filling practically figures itself out. I find the weight loss stories and tips posted here much more helpful than anything Janelle offers, aside from the occasional recipe (that salad dressing). 

[Kohola3]

What could possibly be on her crazy long to-do list.  All she does is write insipid postings. She doesn't work.  Her kids are older and I bet they do their own laundry or take it to Christine.  We know she doesn't tidy up.  She doesn't grow her own food.  She doesn't do charity work.  Kootie takes his business elsewhere.

So what takes up so much of her time? 

[lookeyloo]

11 hours ago, Gothish520 said:

Well to be fair to Janelle, a lot of her posts are basically saying the same thing - that it is hard to find the motivation and energy to make it to gym/yoga class, but she pushes through and goes anyway, and is glad that she did. I think she is trying to be relatable to people and show them that even though it is hard to go to the gym/work out at home/make healthy meals,  it is worth the effort.

If she were posting pictures of herself making real headway, and/or if at least some of her posts were along the lines of "woke up feeling great today, so I headed to spin class to keep the momentum going - starting to see the results of all of my hard work!", then I think she would not be getting so much negative feedback from her endeavors.

I do see your point.  I think she thinks or did think that everyone else who exercises does it with way more enthusiasm than she does.  Maybe some do.   For me its the coming to terms that I don't usually feel like it, but, still, has to be done.  And I always feel better afterwards.  Have to go for the afterwards feeling instead of the getting there feeling.

She must have some kind of job, activity, something, because she refers to it and her post references exciting things.  Although in her life it could be a zero calorie frito.  

[Natalie68]

19 hours ago, Pickleinthemiddle said:

Thanks Natalie68.  I've never heard of those tortillas, will have to look for them.  

They are great!  The texture is a little different being low carb but I was so happy to find them!

[rainbowrockgal]

I get my low carb tortillas from netrition.com, Mama Lupes are really good. I like them better than Tortilla Factory.

[ginger90]

[suomi]

I can't figure out which of these clowns gripes my ass the most. MLM/Multi Level Marketing/the pyramid scheme  has always been a huge thing in the Mormon world. It's deeply ingrained in the culture because the women can be stay-at-home moms and the men don't have to work in the real world with outsiders. Ewww. The most fervent members strive (!) to limit their contact with gentiles/non-believers, unless they're taking their money, so they create their own little bubble and have a built-in customer base with their fellow church members. When one MLM fails they move to the next one and there's always a next one. Over the years I've watched my niece's brother run from one scam to the next and although his family is always on the brink of financial disaster somehow they, like the Browns, always land on their feet but just barely. They have 4 kids and plan on having more and recently moved in with his parents yet don't see that as a lesson. Getting a real job with a steady paycheck is never a consideration. Before we were PC people like this were called gypsies and now we call them grifters. They (like the Browns) have closed their minds to any other way of making a living. Find (or create) a new and exclusive scam-my product or idea, preferably mail order, peddle it to the ward you grew up in, the ward your wife grew up in, your in-laws' wards, any wards you used to live in, and your current ward. It always starts out gangbusters and then fizzles when they eventually run out of customers/fellow Mormons. Knowing all of this I was pleasantly surprised when Janelle and Christine went the real estate route, until they realized that actual effort was required and that they wouldn't be compensated for the hours spent prepping and laying groundwork. The effort expended in building a business rarely generates income, the reward comes later. I think they expected that posting photos of homes and fielding offers by phone was pretty much the extent of it. Janelle and Meri played the role of reliable family income provider when both had "outside" jobs with the state for a few years so they're familiar with the concept of gainful employment but they just don't care enough to apply it to their current lives. Because hey, we get by and that's good enough. My hell, look at how many vehicles they own that don't run/aren't registered but litter the property. Those are straight up white trash ways. I sorta have to give kudos to Robyn because, even though it's not a success, her joory isn't MLM. Meri's LulaRoe is MLM and because she has no ethics and no shame she recruited her own kids. Strive technically isn't MLM but it is a scam.

Licking my chops in anticipation of watching the cult-de-sac go phlooey!

Edited June 29, 2018 by suomi
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[ginger90]

[Kohola3]

I would love to see a peer-reviewed study that says this.  I bet it's from some woo-woo website by an "expert" who go their certificate of the back of a cereal box.  Much like Janelle.

[Sandy W]

25 minutes ago, Kohola3 said:

I would love to see a peer-reviewed study that says this.  I bet it's from some woo-woo website by an "expert" who go their certificate of the back of a cereal box.  Much like Janelle.

Janelle has been dabbling with diet and health trends in one form or another since the first episodes, with NO appreciable results.

 I wonder if she has ever consulted an MD for a diagnosis, there could be a medical issue at play here--- or could it be possible that Janelle wears her weight like a suit of armor.

Edited June 29, 2018 by Sandy W

[DakotaJustice]

11 minutes ago, Sandy W said:

Janelle has been dabbling with diet and health trends in one form or another since the first episodes, with NO appreciable results.

 I wonder if she has ever consulted an MD for a diagnosis, there could be a medical issue at play here--- or could it be possible that Janelle wears her weight like a suit of armor.

Actually she didn't start "dabbling" until after they moved to Vegas. The first mention was in the episode "the Wives Diet Woes". 

She's not exactly All In on this, and I'm guessing the article is one of the green smoothie sites that she goes on about.

[Roslyn]

6 hours ago, ginger90 said:

While I think her "your body can develop an intolerance" is BS there is real info about dark leafy greens out there.  While we are always told to eat more dark leafy greens you can overdo it, especially if you are a person with kidney issues or if you have health issues with medications that are already hard on your kidneys.  Both spinach and kale, very popular greens for the smoothie crowd are hard on kidneys, so you should limit them in your diet.  While it would probably be hard to overdo kale and spinach in a balanced diet if you are taking large amounts on a daily basis and pureeing them that could possibly be an issue.

Moral of the story is still the nutrition information I learned from my Grandmother as a child.  Eat seasonally, eat a variety, eat colorful foods, moderation is key.

[Pickleinthemiddle]

11 hours ago, Sandy W said:

Janelle has been dabbling with diet and health trends in one form or another since the first episodes, with NO appreciable results.

 I wonder if she has ever consulted an MD for a diagnosis, there could be a medical issue at play here--- or could it be possible that Janelle wears her weight like a suit of armor.

Someone I know of who was much bigger than Janelle, had also tried everything.  One gimmick after another. Never sticking with anything for long.  She had to go to the ER for a heart related issue.  She was set up to see a cardiologist.  Who determined that her heart was okay.  But he told her if you don't lose weight you probably wont see your kids finish school or at least you wont see grand kids.  It was enough of a kick in the rear to get her going.  She pretty much just ate vegetables and fish with supper.  She stayed busy at home, at work and spent about 6 hours at the gym as she worked the evening shift.  In a year and a half she lost about 170 pounds.  She finally realized what she had to do in order to lose the weight and keep it off.

[Yeah No]

16 hours ago, Sandy W said:

Janelle has been dabbling with diet and health trends in one form or another since the first episodes, with NO appreciable results.

 I wonder if she has ever consulted an MD for a diagnosis, there could be a medical issue at play here--- or could it be possible that Janelle wears her weight like a suit of armor.

 

I've wondered about both with her for a long time.  Speaking as someone that has "medical issues" that' can be considered responsible for my weight, I know how hard it is and what I'd have to do in order to lose weight and it's in a word ridiculous, not to mention unhealthy in the long run to keep up a diet that's that restricted calorie-wise.  I was thin before menopause, now forget it. As soon as I restrict calories and lose a few pounds my body ups the ante and makes it even harder to get any more off or keep off what I lost.  This is a familial tendency on my mother's mother's side.  Now I know why my grandmother ate a healthy diet and weighed 225 lbs.  

I recently found out from my DNA that I'm "carb sensitive".  I fully believe Janelle is too and most people that have a "weight problem".  I've done low carb diets and have lost weight on them but can only keep up the severe form of the diet for so long before I start going nuts.  Meanwhile my 91 year old father eats cake 3 times a day and his favorite food is grilled cheese with bacon and he's never had a weight problem.  He's obviously not carb sensitive, but I'm sure my mother was.  And he thinks he eats a "healthy diet", LOL.  For him, I guess he does, but most people would have dropped dead long ago on what he eats.  He came to stay with me for a couple of months recently and lost 10 lbs. in only a few weeks eating my healthy diet!  And he didnt even need to lose 10 lbs.!  So now I've had to serve him more fattening food so he doesn't lose any more weight.  It's just not fair!

I also found out from my DNA that I have a tendency to injure myself pulling muscles and tendons from exercise.  While none of this was an issue when I was younger, it is huge now.  I have to be careful just getting up and down from a step stool.  I tore a ligament last year that way.

So these are the ways medical issues and age can conspire to thwart a person's best efforts to lose weight.  Janelle irks me because I don't feel like she's ever looked into her medical issues to this extent.

Edited June 30, 2018 by Yeah No

[ginger90]

[ginger90]

[DakotaJustice]

The adrenals again ? 

A SLIGHT cauliflower taste? 

Here's what I did. I kept eating it and I just got accustomed to it.

[xwordfanatik]

I wonder how much oil was involved in this "healthful" recipe?

WTF does she know about adrenals, that everyone else doesn't?

[ginger90]

[Kohola3]

Adrenals must have been an elective in her "nutrition" program.  Bet it costs extra.

[Pickleinthemiddle]

7 hours ago, DakotaJustice said:

The adrenals again ? 

A SLIGHT cauliflower taste? 

Here's what I did. I kept eating it and I just got accustomed to it.

Agree.  I don't like hominy.  My parents and siblings did.  My mom would put a spoonful on my plate.  I will eat it, but I still can't get past that lye taste.  I can eat it in posole and its okay.  Some things are just an acquired taste.

[Gothish520]

On 6/30/2018 at 1:26 PM, DakotaJustice said:

The adrenals again ? 

21 hours ago, xwordfanatik said:

WTF does she know about adrenals, that everyone else doesn't?

20 hours ago, Kohola3 said:

Adrenals must have been an elective in her "nutrition" program.  Bet it costs extra.

According to several articles online, caffeine affects the adrenal glands by stimulating them and causing a release of "fight or flight" hormones. Not sure how much hard data there is, because these articles are either by "woo" sites or use the dreaded "some researchers have found" or "many believe that" wording, which basically means nothing.

Caffeine is a stimulant, that's one thing we know, so it does have an effect on the body. Conflicting studies about whether that is a good or bad thing, and how much (if any) caffeine we should consume only make things more confusing. 

All I know is, I love my coffee, but I don't overdo it. I have one or two cups earlier in the day (at most), and on occasion when I have a yen for one later in the day, I will go with decaf. 

[Galloway Cave]

1 minute ago, Gothish520 said:

Caffeine is a stimulant, that's one thing we know, so it does have an effect on the body. Conflicting studies about whether that is a good or bad thing, and how much (if any) caffeine we should consume only make things more confusing. 

Considering Janelle takes naps all the time, she could do with a cup or two of coffee a day. And if she is so worried about coffee, switch to a good cup of tea in the morning and be done with it!