Episode Discussion: TFGH

[P3pp3rb1rd]

So did we see where Nelle planted the expensive sexy French bra in Sonny's bedroom? I got the impression it was somewhere in the bed or sheets or pillows? If so, why wouldn't Sonny have found it already?

Legal point: if all the nurses go on strike, are they protected from being fired by their union membership?

[Ambrosefolly]

28 minutes ago, P3pp3rb1rd said:

So did we see where Nelle planted the expensive sexy French bra in Sonny's bedroom? I got the impression it was somewhere in the bed or sheets or pillows? If so, why wouldn't Sonny have found it already?

Legal point: if all the nurses go on strike, are they protected from being fired by their union membership?

 

 

I wouldn't bothering asking that question...the writers don't get care about things like laws or making this show remotely believable. 

 

4 hours ago, CoolWhipLite said:

 

• The show's use of the 80's scenes of Finola and Tanja adds so much special sauce. 

 

 

They better not show too many scenes; it will remind the audience just how badly this show is written and produced compared to that time period. 

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I don't get "hate my job" but I just see boredom and laziness. Every scene is basically flat---no one really tries to rise above the dialogue and make it better like they used to.

 

@HeatLifer I get it. These people are lucky enough to be working actors. But, and this is the only part of this post that matters, the writing sucks across the board and it just keeps on sucking, especially if you are an actor/character that predate FV and the actors now realize that they will probably not get good scenes. I maintain Guza was a crap storyteller after his return in the aughts because his head was so far up the Mob's ass and his homoerotic crush on Jason Morgan. What was worse the two people that could do anything about it, JFP and Frons, encouraged him, yet Guza, and many of his supporting writers, could reliably turn out good scenes for all the actors time to time. They constantly ruined characters, but at least the actors could sink their teeth into and there was more of a lead up to their self-immolation, where both actors and the audience could understand what was happening, even if the audience hated it.  Now it seems solely the job of the actors to elevate all the shitty scripts that are handed to them, not the job of the writers to throw in an ocassional non shitty scene. Richard Burgi and the guy that played Seth should be handed emmys for spinning gold out of the piles of shit filled hay they have been given.  Every era had their clunkers for storylines, but usually there were plenty of other of storylines that didn't suck. All the storylines are terrible and well as the writing.

Edited February 13, 2017 by Ambrosefolly

[tvgoddess]

So I watched Thursday. It's made me not want to watch Friday. Really, even if I wasn't an Ava stan, (I was going to write fan, but then I realized, who the hell am I kidding? Not a psycho though.) I would hate to see this repetitive misogyny. Either one is annoying or gross, but putting them together makes it unbelievably unwatchable. I focused on Maura's eye makeup, because it took my mind off the rest. That was some serious glittery smoking eye. It looked great, as did she.

I didn't have a problem with the Curtis/Hayden scenes, I liked them having a drink together and catching each other up on their respective lives, dishing about their relationships. They make good friends. They'd make very pretty lovers, but I realize I'm never going to get that except maybe in fan fic. Like Hayden, I still love that he calls her Cupcake (Luke/Lulu be damned).

The Jordan/Andre scenes were boring and tired. They make me want to take a big nap.

Dante didn't enrage me, but he didn't endear me either. DZ seemed pretty engaged to me, he was probably thrilled he got to expound about being a cop and upholding the law as opposed to more Charlotte BS.

Thanks to the warning on Kristina, I was able to tolerate the scenes much better. I thought NLG did great, and they all just are so believable as a family unit. I think it would have worked better if Sam had been more reticent to accept it, but I loved that she did. I kind of wanted three different reactions as opposed to two. But they were good scenes, even if Krissy was the annoying, petulant brat who still only manages to think of herself instead of her mother's disease. Molly's hair still looks great.

That's all I've got.

[dubbel zout]

10 hours ago, tvgoddess said:

Like Hayden, I still love that he calls her Cupcake (Luke/Lulu be damned).

I'm not a fan. It's one thing for a father to call his daughter by that sort of nickname (mine called me Kitten), but adult friends is something else. If she had an equally belittling nickname for him it would be a lot better, IMO. But parity never happens.

(Apparently I'm feeling rather militant today. I'll try to keep the rants to a minimum.)

Edited February 13, 2017 by dubbel zout

[peachmangosteen]

I used to like the Cupcake nickname because it felt like a cute, playful nickname between friends, but they've made Curtis such an asshole that it kinda comes off less cute now.

I thought becoming a Sonny/Jason worshiper would be what ruined Curtis, and it certainly contributed, but I think this shit with Jordan has done more damage to him for me.

[TeeVee329]

Given Andre's dumping of Jordan, do we think the show's gearing up to get rid of the character?  Hey, remember that mysterious phone call LAST SUMMER that made it sound like he had a kid somewhere?

Edited February 13, 2017 by TeeVee329

[CookieBud]

ARG!  How many times is our show going to be interrupted for press conferences?  If I want to know about politics, I'd be on an all news channel, not watching a soap, hoping they would interrupt.

On a positive note, at least I don't have to listen to Morgan's name.

Edited February 13, 2017 by CookieBud
Poor punctuation.

[Perkie]

Best line of the episode (so far)

Julian:  That's not my voice on the recording

Jordan:  (showing him the photo of him and LIv) Is that your face?

Vinessa's tone and the emphasis she put on the word "face" made me laugh out loud.  

[CookieBud]

3 minutes ago, Perkie said:

Best line of the episode (so far)

Julian:  That's not my voice on the recording

Jordan:  (showing him the photo of him and LIv) Is that your face?

Vinessa's tone and the emphasis she put on the word "face" made me laugh out loud.  

You have the episode?  Sniff sniff.  I'm jealous.

[Linny]

I actually think George Stephanopoulos did us a favor by cutting in right as Sonny and Carly were about to have sex. 

[CookieBud]

1 minute ago, Linny said:

I actually think George Stephanopoulos did us a favor by cutting in right as Sonny and Carly were about to have sex. 

While talking about Morgan.   Can anyone give a quickie about what we missed?  Pretty please?  Pretty please with sugar on top?  I have cookies.

[Perkie]

8 minutes ago, CookieBud said:

You have the episode?  Sniff sniff.  I'm jealous.

I'll put up a description of the episode once it's done for those who didn't get it.

[CookieBud]

1 minute ago, Perkie said:

I'll put up a description of the episode once it's done for those who didn't get it.

Thank you!  It came back on to Nelle.  

[LeftPhalange]

2 minutes ago, CookieBud said:

Thank you!  It came back on to Nelle.  

Ew.

[CookieBud]

1 minute ago, LeftPhalange said:

Ew.

Exactly.

[CookieBud]

Wow! Much remorse about AJ, there Sonny?  ::::sarcasm off::::

[Linny]

Okay, so we got the first ten minutes of the episode and the last ten minutes. That's certainly special. Maybe every episode should be this way. The bulk of this show is repetitive filler anyway.

I'm glad Sonny found two brains cells to rub together and realized that Nelle planted that bra. 

[TeeVee329]

Another Sonny/Carly sex scene?  Can we not?

[dubbel zout]

I think Morgan wouldn't mind if people were unhappy because of him. 

3 minutes ago, TeeVee329 said:

Another Sonny/Carly sex scene?  Can we not?

How else would they find the bra Nelle planted? You know neither of them makes a bed.

LOL at Olivia kicking Anna's pills out of the way. I love that sort of petty evil.

[LexieLily]

At least Valentin admitted he is alienating Charlotte against Lulu. Now maybe the plot can move along.

[ulkis]

14 minutes ago, TeeVee329 said:

Another Sonny/Carly sex scene?  Can we not?

How else will Morgan Too get here?

[TeeVee329]

So I read that Anna's story with Valentin was exposited today by some WSB dude we've never seen or heard of before?  ...neat.

[dubbel zout]

Oh, so that's who that guy is. How convenient Anna's eyesight comes back just as Olivia J. leaves.

Lulu's face when Valentin told her off was priceless. She really needs to stop trying to make things right (or lull him into a false sense of security or whatever) and just stay away from all of them for a while. 

Suddenly Sonny is all about knowing 100 percent before he does something? He has no remorse about killing AJ, so that line was ridiculous.

I wish they'd make the PCPD totally corrupt. Then at least the lack of success in figuring things out wouldn't be so exasperating.

As always, the pacing on this show is beyond terrible.

Edited February 13, 2017 by dubbel zout

[ulkis]

What the hell kind of accent was that guy talking to Anna supposed to have.

I liked Ava's earrings. 

Someone, anyone, burn Dante's shirt already.

Carly: Ava killed Morgan?

Sonny: a-yup.

Sonny's talking about his killed son, not confirming Ava stole the silverware. Maybe MB could have tried to sound a bit less casual.

Between Julian quickly saying "no" when Olivia asked him if he were threatening him and her slapping him, he's really become kind of pathetic. Can't the writers find a medium between "knife wielding wife killer" and "sad sack"?

I actually liked the Felicia/Nelle scenes. Nelle and Michael still look like brother and sister though.

53 minutes ago, TeeVee329 said:

So I read that Anna's story with Valentin was exposited today by some WSB dude we've never seen or heard of before?  ...neat.

Not exactly. We found out she put him on a kill list, but we don't know why.

[ulkis]

oh, and can someone figure out the Mystery of Why Julian's Hair Makes Him Look So Weird? I don't know why, but it does. Maybe it's too square? I dunno.

[dubbel zout]

"Bitch" really got a workout today. Ugh.

[TeeVee329]

19 minutes ago, ulkis said:

Not exactly. We found out she put him on a kill list, but we don't know why.

I was commenting more on this WSB guy we've never seen or heard of parachuting in to offer up pieces of the backstory.  I mean, I get we can't keep relying on off-screen Robert and Frisco for this stuff, but still, it's lame.

It also reminded me again how stupid the show was to never build up any other WSB agents since Robert and Anna's hayday.  There should be a whole other generation of them.

Edited February 13, 2017 by TeeVee329

[ulkis]

14 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

"Bitch" really got a workout today. Ugh.

I know Nelle did something awful to him, but there's just something weak imo about Sonny saying "Nelle you bitch". Maybe cause he's so much older than her. I don't know, just looks bad on him.

[dubbel zout]

It does make him look lame, I agree. It was so unnecessary: Why can't he just say he's going to get to the bottom of whatever she's doing? (Aside from the fact that he's an idiot and will get it wrong at least once.) Carly calling Ava a bitch was equally dumb. I wish they'd stop it.

[LeftPhalange]

Sonny should just kill Nelly and be done with it. 

Is Bobbie paying Felicia? I hope she isn't dealing with that girl for free. 

Julian is pathetic. He should hire someone competent to kill OJ for real and then kill Ava. Most of his problems would be solved with both of them dead.

Those scenes with Anna at the hospital were so ridiculous. Also, if Valentin isn't going to actively go after her then I don't care about any of this. 

Would be great if Lulu could just stop everything she's doing.

Edited February 13, 2017 by LeftPhalange

[Oracle42]

In what world would Carly even care about Sonny sleeping with Nelle? He's done so much worse that this Nelle crap is laughable in comparison. She'd be much more likely to roll her eyes and sneer at him for being such a lame cliche. 

Edited February 13, 2017 by Oracle42

[dubbel zout]

Especially because they were estranged at the time it happened! It's not as if they'd pledged eternal fidelity the day before. Gah. 

[TeeVee329]

Oh, I'm sure Sonny will try and turn it around on Carly.  "You kissed Jax, I had no choice but to sleep with Nelle!  So we're square, right?". 

[dubbel zout]

Oh, I'm sure it will all be Carly's fault. She's the one who brought Nelle into their lives in the first place by insisting Nelle stay in PC and work for her. Sonny really had no choice but to sleep with Nelle, when you look at it logically. 

 

Ahem.

[TeeVee329]

I just wish they'd get on with it.  Carly and Sonny being all schmoopy is soooo boring.

And what again was the point of the bra?  Nelle has him confessing to "sleeping with her" on tape, what is Nelle waiting for?

Edited February 13, 2017 by TeeVee329

[Oracle42]

Bleh. Maybe if they'd done this with spicy bad girl/obviously a sociopath Claudette?

I wouldn't mind watching her 'Tess' her way through their lives, so long as she ran away forever afterward. 

But Nelle had no motive, she's already conflicted and she's terminally boring - and what's supposed to happen?  CARLY Benson (Spencer) Quartermaine, Corinthos, Corinthos Alcazar Jax Corinthis is going to be insecure about Nelle? 

This is dumb and boring and also dumb

Edited February 16, 2017 by Oracle42

[TeeVee329]

And I'm sure we're going to be expected to cry for Nelle that her scheming has messed up things with her and Michael.

...maybe if they weren't so terminally vanilla.

[ulkis]

7 minutes ago, TeeVee329 said:

I just wish they'd get on with it.  Carly and Sonny being all schmoopy is soooo boring.

And what again was the point of the bra?  Nelle has him confessing to "sleeping with her" on tape, what is Nelle waiting for?

I think she wants to establish that it wasn't just a one night stand.

[TeeVee329]

I guess?

I think we're supposed to think Carly's recent badmouthing of Frank Benson has lit a fire under Nelle, thus the flowers to herself, the bra, etc..  But my gawd, the pacing on this is sooo bad.

And maybe drawing out this part of it would have been okay if Nelle, I dunno, HAD TARGETED ANY OTHER ASPECT OF CARLY'S LIFE! 

Edited February 13, 2017 by TeeVee329

[Oracle42]

This just feels like such a generic soap story. There's no recognition of Carly or Sonny as characters and/or their history with each other. 

It's basically the same problem that I have with all of Jelly's stories - that and the infuriatingly terrible pacing

Edited February 14, 2017 by Oracle42

[ulkis]

speaking of bad pacing and blandness, how long has it been since Kiki and Dillon shared a scene together?

[Oracle42]

Nice segue!

[Harmony233]

Nelle seems like the worse kind of character.Shes a boring schemer.Shes conflicted how lame.Who wants to watch that.I loath Carly but when she first came on.I can't say she ever bored me.

[peachmangosteen]

So, I checked my DVR at like 2:20 and saw that GH was recording but when I went to watch it at 3 it was nowhere to be found. The recording just disappeared. I think my tivo has become sentient and is trying to protect me from this dreck.

Is there anything worth seeking this ep out to watch?

Edited February 14, 2017 by peachmangosteen

[LeftPhalange]

1 hour ago, dubbel zout said:

Oh, I'm sure it will all be Carly's fault. She's the one who brought Nelle into their lives in the first place by insisting Nelle stay in PC and work for her. Sonny really had no choice but to sleep with Nelle, when you look at it logically. 

 

Ahem.

Actually, Sonny fake screwing Nelly is Ava's fault. If Ava hadn't switched Morgan's meds he'd probably still be alive. If Moran were still alive Sonny wouldn't have been drunk and vulnerable to Nelly's advances. Also, if Sonny were drunk and vulnerable due to Ava murdering Morgan, Conflicted Spicy Bad Girl #2 would have never worked up the courage to drug him.

32 minutes ago, ulkis said:

speaking of bad pacing and blandness, how long has it been since Kiki and Dillon shared a scene together?

[LeftPhalange]

13 minutes ago, peachmangosteen said:

Is there anything worth seeking this ep out to watch?

Valentin tells Lulu she ain't shit and never will be.

OJ slaps Julian.

While Anna is having a Super Intense Migraine she drops her pills and OJ kicks them away. 

[P3pp3rb1rd]

I just don't get why Sonny and Carly gnash their teeth and swear to kill whoever killed Morgan. Doesn't Carly sanctimoniously say that she wants Sonny to quit violence? And don't the two of them believe in the court system of America? Killers rotting in prison for the rest of their lives? Hasn't Sonny learned his lesson from the tediousness of being tethered to his electronic leash?

Nah, they lose their self control and start screaming for blood revenge for Morgan.

And Eureka!! Sonny DID find the bra that Nelle planted before Carly could discover it tucked cunningly in the pillows. But if he is dreaming and holding it when Carly emerges from washing her hands in the bathroom, she's gonna see it and the games will begin!

[Perkie]

1 hour ago, ulkis said:

how long has it been since Kiki and Dillon shared a scene together?

When was the last time we saw Dillon?  He went out looking for Maxie on her wedding day and we haven't seen him since.  

[Perkie]

54 minutes ago, peachmangosteen said:

Is there anything worth seeking this ep out to watch?

It was very Jerome centric.  Ava being interogated by Dante.  Julian being interogated by Jordan, than leaving Ava to hang, then getting reprimanded by Liv.  Anna almost running LIv at the hospital but being momentarily blinded, literally.  CarSon sexing it up then him stopping her from going after Ava to kill her.  

Non Jerome:  Nelle finding out from Michael that Felicia and Bobbie are besties and figuring out that Felicia is playing her.  Lulu seeking out Valentin to apologize and him shutting her down.  

21 minutes ago, P3pp3rb1rd said:

Doesn't Carly sanctimoniously say that she wants Sonny to quit violence?

Carly told Dante that she wants Sonny to stop with the violence, but that because it's her son's death that we're talking about, she also understands Sonny's need for revenge.  As a mother, I can see Carly's point here.  

[Perkie]

24 minutes ago, P3pp3rb1rd said:

Carly emerges from washing her hands in the bathroom,

I'm spoiler free, but ten bucks says Carly didn't go to the bathroom to wash her hands but hightailed it down to the station to pull ava's hair out, Dynasty style.