Episode Discussion: TFGH

[Aurora2]

54 minutes ago, CreamedPeas said:

Obsessed about Jordan's bad hair again. 

I'm so obsessed about how annoying she is than I don't always notice the hair. :-)

[lovelynn]

Is grey paint cheaper than other colours? When did they change the Q mansion? I hate the change, it makes the room look so tiny and dreary. Since the story sucks the least they can do is have cute sets. I would much rather watch Dillon's sex life play out than Ned's.

[CookieBud]

Jordan annoys.  Once again you have a "good" person of PC lying and that assaulting someone.  Curtis should have pressed charges for the assault and ruined her career.  I don't mind characters that misbehave.  Go for it. I do mind characters that claim to be of a higher moral character doing what they accuse others of.  Give me a villain who admits they are a villain and I'm in.  Give me someone who acts so holy and pure who looks down on others and I'm looking for the door.

[Aurora2]

3 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

As well as being the only girl in that age range. Ingenues usually have a peer group to play off.

For the most part I don't really care how old a character is supposed to be—a specific age is usually a plot point—but GH is so wildly inconsistent with how it treats characters of ostensibly the same age.

I go by how old a character looks and feels to me.

[dubbel zout]

8 minutes ago, TeeVee329 said:

Previews...huh, I guess Felicia randomly being in a scene with Nelle means Felicia's the one Bobbie has looking into her?

Felicia was a PI once, so...History!

[ulkis]

4 minutes ago, lovelynn said:

Is grey paint cheaper than other colours? When did they change the Q mansion? I hate the change, it makes the room look so tiny and dreary. Since the story sucks the least they can do is have cute sets. I would much rather watch Dillon's sex life play out than Ned's.

I think the theory is if the sets have same colored walls you can use the same walls for different sets.

[Fellaway]

"Research"?  So, that's what we're calling mob business now, eh?  'Mkay.

"Is one of the Quartermaines trying to blackmail you?  'Cause they're good at that."  Wow, Carly.  Wow.  And, shut up.  I hate her, so hard.

Curtis, I realize you've had a taste of the Kool-Aid, but, no, it wouldn't be a horrible thing if Sonny went to prison for a crime he didn't commit.  I'd call it cosmic justice.

Show, there is no way two women wearing high heels, no doubt very expensive high heels, are going to just walk through snow in them like it isn't there.  Is it really that hard to inject that little bit of reality into your episodes?  Asked and answered, I guess.

Edited February 2, 2017 by Fellaway

[Perkie]

Apparently Sam swallowed a basketball between yesterday's episode and today's.  Seriouly wardrobe department, what is wrong with you.

Shut up Franco

[CookieBud]

1 minute ago, Perkie said:

Apparently Sam swallowed a basketball between yesterday's episode and today's.  Seriouly wardrobe department, what is wrong with you.

Shut up Franco

I think this was supposed to be a new week, but all those preemptions have the episodes back to back.  Had this one showed up on a Monday, said basketball wouldn't be as obvious.

[Vella]

So Dillon brings up Ned's many marriages, but doesn't bring up the fact that Ned ABANDONED Olivia and Leo to go rock star with Brooke? That he swore up and down he'd be by her side, being her rock, wouldn't change his mind and that Julian was bad, bad, bad and shouldn't be near Leo and then did an about face and couldn't push her out the door fast enough? Left her to solve the Leo debacle on her own?

Olivia wails about her track record, but nothing about the whiplash she got when Ned dumped her and practically shoved her at Julian?

This is why I can't remotely take that couple seriously.

[TeeVee329]

8 minutes ago, Vella said:

Left her [Olivia] to solve the Leo debacle on her own?

Olivia's far from blameless for the Leo debacle, given her choice to confide in a comatose Franco about it, standing by and letting Ned and Brook hand over their ELQ shares to protect her, and then deciding to move back to Port Charles with "the baby she adopted".

And I dunno, the breakup was because Wally Kurth had gone back to DOOL fulltime at that point.  So I don't really hold the whiplash against him.  I'm more concerned about another Sonny apologist joining the Q's.

[dubbel zout]

Ugh, that story's total stupidity still gives me a rage blackout. I feel sorry for no one.

[Perkie]

1 hour ago, TeeVee329 said:

Ava actually sent him flowers?

That was total bull.  I think the last time Ava and Franco were in scenes together it had to do with how he helped crazy Nina steal her baby and take her away.  No way do I believe Ava would stop by a flower store and have some sent to the idiot, just because he's in the hospital, for having anger management issues.  

[ulkis]

RoHo hair theory #476: He fell in love with Becky's and decided to imitate it.

I always feel vaguely embarrassed when Olivia shows up with her Plot That Took Place Completely off-screen. I don't know why.

Jordan just needs to dump Andre.

4 minutes ago, Perkie said:

That was total bull.  I think the last time Ava and Franco were in scenes together it had to do with how he helped crazy Nina steal her baby and take her away.  No way do I believe Ava would stop by a flower store and have some sent to the idiot, just because he's in the hospital, for having anger management issues.  

Yeah, that was so weird. Was it just reminding people Ava is still around? Trying to find someone besides Kiki or Liz who might plausibly send him flowers?

[Perkie]

3 minutes ago, ulkis said:

Trying to find someone besides Kiki or Liz who might plausibly send him flowers?

This.  Because it was "Kiki and Scott were here and Heather called oh and flowers from Ava".  I'm surprised they didn't have the room full of home made cards from Liz' boys to lay it on even thicker.  

[ulkis]

7 minutes ago, Perkie said:

This.  Because it was "Kiki and Scott were here and Heather called oh and flowers from Ava".  I'm surprised they didn't have the room full of home made cards from Liz' boys to lay it on even thicker.  

That would be hilarious, if it weren't so damn obvious.

[LeftPhalange]

I have a hard time believing Ava would send flowers to anyone, but definitely not Freako. This is obviously another desperate and pathetic attempt by Jelly to make Freako "happen." 

Is there any reason why Jelly can't just put Jordan and Curtis together? Their history can be used as angst instead of creating some stupid triangle with some guy half the audience probably forgets exists when he's not on screen. 

All of the scenes at the hospital were sickening. (a) there's zero reasons why Alexis ever should say thank you to the rapist serial killer who violated her daughter. Especially since it turns out she didn't even do anything to Tom; (b) Sam thanking Liez for manipulating her into saving Freako was vulgar. Sam would've figured out Alexis was a sloppy drunk disaster the next time she ran over someone, Liez's "help" wasn't needed; (c) Sam thanking Freako caused me to stroke out. She should never thank that piece of garbage at any time for any reason. Ever. 

[CookieBud]

I get Ava because of Kiki but the others make no sense.

[LexieLily]

23 minutes ago, LeftPhalange said:

I have a hard time believing Ava would send flowers to anyone, but definitely not Freako. This is obviously another desperate and pathetic attempt by Jelly to make Freako "happen." 

Is there any reason why Jelly can't just put Jordan and Curtis together? Their history can be used as angst instead of creating some stupid triangle with some guy half the audience probably forgets exists when he's not on screen. 

All of the scenes at the hospital were sickening. (a) there's zero reasons why Alexis ever should say thank you to the rapist serial killer who violated her daughter. Especially since it turns out she didn't even do anything to Tom; (b) Sam thanking Liez for manipulating her into saving Freako was vulgar. Sam would've figured out Alexis was a sloppy drunk disaster the next time she ran over someone, Liez's "help" wasn't needed; (c) Sam thanking Freako caused me to stroke out. She should never thank that piece of garbage at any time for any reason. Ever. 

I honestly, honestly don't understand what Frank and Jelly are trying to accomplish with these scenes. Do they think it's funny to show Sam being a doormat for Liz, when Liz has NEVER EVER apologized for stealing her husband and her child's father from her for over a year? Do they think it's cute to see a rape victim dismiss another rape victim's pain?

*Liz can say all she wants that she understands what Sam went through and understands why she would always hate Franco, but it gets completely undercut by the fact that she said it during a conversation where she was pressuring Sam to help prove Franco innocent of murder and refusing to see why Sam only cared about her mother's involvement.

Edited February 2, 2017 by LexieLily

[dubbel zout]

6 minutes ago, LeftPhalange said:

Is there any reason why Jelly can't just put Jordan and Curtis together? Their history can be used as angst instead of creating some stupid triangle with some guy half the audience probably forgets exists when he's not on screen.

I don't like Jordan and Curtis anymore than I like Jordan and André. Both men have shown a troubling lack of understanding of boundaries. I'll never understand why I'm supposed to find it "sexy" when a man insists a woman means yes when she's said no. Gross.

6 minutes ago, LeftPhalange said:

I have a hard time believing Ava would send flowers to anyone, but definitely not Freako.

Seriously. If Ava sent me flowers, I'd be checking for an exploding stamen or something similar.

Edited February 2, 2017 by dubbel zout

[Oracle42]

If Ava sent Franco exploding flowers (that actually killed him dead) I would stop wishing for the death of one of her children

[ulkis]

Oh, also, watch out pasta Olivia. Carly telling her to watch out can't be coincidental.

[LeftPhalange]

11 minutes ago, Oracle42 said:

If Ava sent Franco exploding flowers (that actually killed him dead) I would stop wishing for the death of one of her children

* for a week. 

[TeeVee329]

16 minutes ago, ulkis said:

Oh, also, watch out pasta Olivia. Carly telling her to watch out can't be coincidental.

I would kinda love it if Oliva Jerome murdered her and said something to the effect of, "There's only room for one Olivia in this town."

[rur]

2 hours ago, Linny said:

And they're totally going to give us a Liz/Franco sex scene soon, which means I need to decide what I'm going to use to gouge my eyes out.

This is what the barge is for: we'll be screening scenes that actually were kind of romantic in their day: Luke and Laura dancing in Wyndham's after hours; Frisco singing "All I Need" to Tanya (even though she wasn't that interested in him), maybe even Alexis and Julian the first time they got hot and bothered and before it became the only thing they did.  (In other words, pretty much anything but Liz and you-know-who.)

And, BTW, producers, if you want to try to convince us Franco is a romantic lead, then don't put the camera at the end of the hospital bed then zoom in so we can count his nose hairs. 

I'd rather look at Ned's dimples rather than Sonny's any day. MB's tortured, dimple-accenting-smile lost its magic for me more than a decade ago.

[bannana]

Are there actual fans of Franco/Liz out there somewhere?  It just seems so alternate reality to me that these two are together.  I think Franco/Carly even made more sense than this.  Sort of.

[backhometome]

Ugh on what planet are Sam and Liez even???

SMH at Sam thanking her sexual assaulter. And frankly Alexis right now isnt even worth the hassle of Sam saving or thanking the freak for. 

[peachmangosteen]

16 minutes ago, bannana said:

Are there actual fans of Franco/Liz out there somewhere? 

Yes. They're all over twitter. It disturbs me. I figure they're just hardcore BH and/or RoHo fans who will champion anything they do.

I tried to watch the Franco/Liz scenes but they opened with a shitty closeup on Liz saying, "Wake up, sleepy head" and I couldn't hit the fast forward button soon enough. They're so yucky. It's bad enough that Liz is heinous, Franco is dirty looking, and the writing is abysmal, but they also have the most forced chem I think I've ever seen. Alas, I thought I'd give it another try, but then Liz was going on about how everyone was checking in on Franco and Ava even sent him flowers and Franco is a God among men, and I just couldn't fucking do it anymore. 

I hate when LW plays Carly as all happy and giggly. I know I say that every time it happens, but like seriously it makes me physically ill to watch it.

I pretty much just watched the Ned/Olivia, Ned/Dillon, and Olivia/Carly scenes. I tried with the other stuff but it was making me angry and real life makes me angry enough these days so I don't need it from my entertainment.

Edited February 2, 2017 by peachmangosteen

[LeftPhalange]

27 minutes ago, peachmangosteen said:

I tried to watch the Franco/Liz scenes but they opened with a shitty closeup on Liz saying, "Wake up, sleepy head" and I couldn't hit the fast forward button soon enough. They're so yucky. It's bad enough that Liz is heinous, Franco is dirty looking, and the writing is abysmal, but they also have the most forced chem I think I've ever seen. Alas, I thought I'd give it another try, but then Liz was going on about how everyone was checking in on Franco and Ava even sent him flowers and Franco is a God among men, and I just couldn't fucking do it anymore. 

 

I wanted Freako's hospital room to blow up. He and Low Rent Nancy Drew are SICKENING, individually and together. 

[Darklazr]

#FreeElizabethImogeneWebber from FV, Jelly, Varni and Franco!

[dubbel zout]

1 hour ago, peachmangosteen said:

I tried to watch the Franco/Liz scenes but they opened with a shitty closeup on Liz saying, "Wake up, sleepy head" and I couldn't hit the fast forward button soon enough.

I get wanting to see your favorite actors, but when they're in such a terrible, gross story, as BH and RoHo are, how is it enjoyable to watch? It's like when NLG was Dobson. So, so bad.

"Franco, you did good. Get well. Ava." I guess Ava doesn't know that Lauren helped Franco—at his request—lure Tom into a dog cage, huh? While Ava might support the sentiment behind it, I don't think she'd want Lauren involved. The African violet was lovely, I have to say. As a hospital plant, though, it sucks. They need a LOT of direct light.

WTF is Dillon talking about? Olivia was not left with two kids by guys who didn't want to commit to her. Sonny didn't know she was pregnant, and Julian and Olivia had a ONS. Shut up, Jar of Mayo.

[LeftPhalange]

4 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

I get wanting to see your favorite actors, but when they're in such a terrible, gross story, as BH and RoHo are, how is it enjoyable to watch? It's like when NLG was Dobson. So, so bad.

 

If I were a Liez fan I would be begging for her to be written out or for BH to leave, because damn. DAMN. She was already wrecked and now Freako and this relationship brings out all of her worst qualities and magnifies them. 

[HeatLifer]

6 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

I get wanting to see your favorite actors, but when they're in such a terrible, gross story, as BH and RoHo are, how is it enjoyable to watch?

When some fans become infatuated with a certain pair's "chemistry," they don't care what the story is. 

[ulkis]

55 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

I get wanting to see your favorite actors, but when they're in such a terrible, gross story, as BH and RoHo are, how is it enjoyable to watch? It's like when NLG was Dobson. So, so bad.

"Franco, you did good. Get well. Ava." I

lol what. Why the hell would Ava care?

[P3pp3rb1rd]

How is Ned able to invite Olivia and her brat to move in to the Quartermaine mansion? Doesn't Monica own it?

[Darklazr]

3 hours ago, LeftPhalange said:

If I were a Liez fan I would be begging for her to be written out or for BH to leave, because damn. DAMN. She was already wrecked and now Freako and this relationship brings out all of her worst qualities and magnifies them. 

Hell, no.  Why should BH leave a job that she clearly loves because FV has a hardon for RoHo?  BH is almost a twenty year vet of this show and it stinks that FV refused to get rid of Franco in the first place.

Edited February 3, 2017 by Darklazr

[TeeVee329]

50 minutes ago, P3pp3rb1rd said:

How is Ned able to invite Olivia and her brat to move in to the Quartermaine mansion? Doesn't Monica own it?

I had the same thought.  Maybe they'll move into the gatehouse and Olivia's transformation into Lois Cerullo will be complete. 

[Oracle42]

I don't want Liz/BH to go away. I want FV and Jelly to go and I want them to take RoHo with them

Edited February 3, 2017 by Oracle42

[Laurel456]

Im probably going to get  bashed here but I love Franco and Liz. I think BH and Roho are awesome. I wish though they can stay in separate storylines and away from Sam/Alexis. I want to warn you guys if you don't like Friz don't watch tomorrow. They might have sex. It's could be tomorrow or Monday by the promo. You guys want to skip it. 

[ulkis]

52 minutes ago, Laurel456 said:

Im probably going to get  bashed here but I love Franco and Liz. I think BH and Roho are awesome. I wish though they can stay in separate storylines and away from Sam/Alexis. I want to warn you guys if you don't like Friz don't watch tomorrow. They might have sex. It's could be tomorrow or Monday by the promo. You guys want to skip it. 

I actually do think RoHo and RH have chemistry. I just think Franco's a mess.

[NutmegsDad]

10 hours ago, P3pp3rb1rd said:

How is Ned able to invite Olivia and her brat to move in to the Quartermaine mansion? Doesn't Monica own it?

Alan gave it to her!

[NutmegsDad]

16 hours ago, TeeVee329 said:

Gawd, all this Franco fawning.  Ava actually sent him flowers? 

Considering the high bar, I'd never thought Show could prop a character higher than Sonny,.....

[Mrs. Stanwyck]

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lol what. Why the hell would Ava care?

I assume its because she knows Kiki will see that she sent Franco flowers and it will make Kiki happy.  I refuse to believe she give's a rat's ass about Franco.

[dubbel zout]

6 hours ago, ulkis said:

I actually do think RoHo and RH have chemistry. I just think Franco's a mess.

BH is pretty good at generating chem with anyone, but my distaste for Franco overwhelms my ability to decide if she has it with RoHo. Franco is so awful.

[LeftPhalange]

Rapist serial killer and his cheerleader feel so extremely forced to me. It's painful.  

[dubbel zout]

I think the characters together are forced, but you can say that about all couples, really. And it doesn't have anything to do with the actors' chemistry, IMO. Sometimes the actors' chemistry can make the couple work when it shouldn't. This is not a case of that, since Franco is so appalling.

Franco shouldn't be in a relationship with anyone. I sort of bought him with Nina because they're both unhinged. But there's no way a rape victim should be falling for a rape facilitator–SERIAL KILLER. And that shouldn't be used to "redeem" said rape facilitator–SERIAL KILLER. Just...no.

Edited February 3, 2017 by dubbel zout

[peachmangosteen]

32 minutes ago, LeftPhalange said:

Rapist serial killer and his cheerleader feel so extremely forced to me. It's painful.  

I agree. They just don't have chem imo. I don't see it at all. But honestly it might just be the writing that has them acting like lovesick teens, which is really not a good look on Liz. Plus RoHo just looks unwashed and it's so nasty. I won't lie, if I saw scorching chem with them, I'd probably ship it. I'm a chem whore. I don't know though, Liz is so heinous to me now that I might not be able to get past that. And RoHo just sucks now imo. So actually even if they had chem I don't think I could get on board.

I am equal parts curious and scared about their love scenes. I feel like I'll end up barfing, even through fast forward. I hope they at least got RoHo to wash his hair before filming!

Edited February 3, 2017 by peachmangosteen

[TeeVee329]

I too think the biggest problem in the Franco/Liz pairing is character vs. chemistry.  But I am also sooo tired of Roger Howarth's shtick in general.

[LeftPhalange]

10 minutes ago, peachmangosteen said:

I don't know though, Liz is so heinous to me now that I might not be able to get past that.

I think BH is making things worse. I mean, stalker nurse is going to be obscene regardless, but when she turns on the bitch face or the stank, smug attitude I want someone to throw her down a mine shaft, revive her, then throw her into a volcano. BH's acting choices combined with everything about RoHo is just way too much to deal with. 

[peachmangosteen]

3 minutes ago, LeftPhalange said:

BH's acting choices combined with everything about RoHo is just way too much to deal with. 

Yes. BH either plays Liz as a self-righteous bitch or a naive teen with a baby voice and I really can't stand either acting choice. And then RoHo is just bad in every single way plus he looks filthy. I just can't with them in any way. I want them both off the show tbh. I fast forward everything with them anyway, but just the fact that they're even a thing irritates me immensely.

Edited February 3, 2017 by peachmangosteen