Rotting Y&R: The Spoiler Thread

[crowsworks]

18 hours ago, AngelKitty said:

I like the idea of Adam coming back. I wasn't watching when he did all the bad stuff with Sharon and Ashley and babies in the fire so I don't have that memory clouding my judgment.

I always thought they should have had Ashley have a false pregnancy from the start. It's been known to actually fool doctors and they could work around the ultra sound. The woman almost died from lady cancer. Massive chemo etc. She couldn't even give blood.

She didn't know she hadn't given birth the next day. I never had a baby but I'm guessing there's a twinge or owie down under the next day. 

[taavir40]

17 minutes ago, crowsworks said:

I always thought they should have had Ashley have a false pregnancy from the start. It's been known to actually fool doctors and they could work around the ultra sound. The woman almost died from lady cancer. Massive chemo etc. She couldn't even give blood.

She didn't know she hadn't given birth the next day. I never had a baby but I'm guessing there's a twinge or owie down under the next day. 

what are your thoughts on them bringing Adam back from the dead...Again

[crowsworks]

2 hours ago, taavir40 said:

what are your thoughts on them bringing Adam back from the dead...Again

If they are just going to bring him back as a whiny brat....no

If they give us a back story that explains his rotten acts...or my choice would be -  hire a handicapped actor or one with some kind of damage. I loved the guy who had been burned playing a vet on another network. (real vet) and it was amazing how quickly you didn't see the scars after a while. It was a good thing. Actors come home banged up too. 

That's why so many of us loved Harding. He wasn't...sleek. Cripes, on soaps chest hair is a disfiguring. Even EB - back in the day - had that rough skin and hollow cheeks. Nothing against pretty guys - Jack is my fave - but variety is nice too. 

JT too could use an explanation. brain tumor or concussion syndrome....

[miamama]

5 hours ago, crowsworks said:

If they are just going to bring him back as a whiny brat....no

If they give us a back story that explains his rotten acts...or my choice would be -  hire a handicapped actor or one with some kind of damage. I loved the guy who had been burned playing a vet on another network. (real vet) and it was amazing how quickly you didn't see the scars after a while. It was a good thing. Actors come home banged up too. 

That's why so many of us loved Harding. He wasn't...sleek. Cripes, on soaps chest hair is a disfiguring. Even EB - back in the day - had that rough skin and hollow cheeks. Nothing against pretty guys - Jack is my fave - but variety is nice too. 

JT too could use an explanation. brain tumor or concussion syndrome....

Great post!! ICAM

[valleycliffe]

so, at a different forum i read a spoiler from lynda hirsch.

phyl thinks she can trust kerry

tells her she wants to take down a competitor - my beauty

after the meeting kerry texts her mysterious boss.

spec is that ashley is kerry's boss

also wonder if ash is the one who actually made "jack of hearts" that phyl wants jabot to market..

[JasonCC]

I actually liked that dark pregnancy storyline with Ashley and Adam and the sinister Dr. Handsy. Maybe it was the nuanced, talented ED, but a part of me always filled in the blanks that (even if the writers weren't explicitly writing it) Ashley on some level knew she wasn't pregnant and was deluding herself. She was back-slipping a bit to those 1980s nervous breakdown days. She wanted to believe she had one last shot at a baby.

Edited March 9, 2019 by JasonCC

[peacheslatour]

5 minutes ago, valleycliffe said:

so, at a different forum i read a spoiler from lynda hirsch.

phyl thinks she can trust kerry

tells her she wants to take down a competitor - my beauty

after the meeting kerry texts her mysterious boss.

spec is that ashley is kerry's boss

also wonder if ash is the one who actually made "jack of hearts" that phyl wants jabot to market..

I bet you're right. I hope ED comes back and drops Phylthy in her tracks.

Edited March 9, 2019 by peacheslatour

[pearlite]

13 minutes ago, valleycliffe said:

so, at a different forum i read a spoiler from lynda hirsch.

phyl thinks she can trust kerry

tells her she wants to take down a competitor - my beauty

after the meeting kerry texts her mysterious boss.

spec is that ashley is kerry's boss

also wonder if ash is the one who actually made "jack of hearts" that phyl wants jabot to market..

Well, it was pretty evident, and I'm a dumbass about plot, that Kerry is playing both sides against the middle. So the question becomes, "who's the middle?"

I'm just going to light a candle in hopes that Ashley is sprinting into the middle. I love ED.

[miamama]

46 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

I bet you're right. I hope ED comes back and drops Phylthy in her tracks.

yes please.

I think you're right too @valleycliffe. Ashley no doubt created Jack of Hearts. I suspect if she's only back for two days it's to get Jabot back for Jack and she'll give him the perfume for Jabot to start fresh after ensuring Phyllis's ass is kicked out of the company.

Her scorched earth departure was out of character. Ashley Abbott would never destroy Jabot. Nope. Never happen. This way Jack and Ash make amends and Ashley can return to Paris with her successful company that Jack and Jabot promise to never challenge. And Jack regains his rightful position as Jabot CEO.

I really hope this is how it goes down. I hated Ashley's exit. And of course Phyllis as CEO is a fucking MalJoke.

Edited March 9, 2019 by miamama

[valleycliffe]

lynda hirsch also had another spoiler that said "nick and sharon make peace and set their grudges aside".

this makes me happy.

wonder if this happens after all the courtroom drama is overwith...

[taavir40]

Justin Hartleys Awnser to the Adam Recast

[Anna Yolei]

On 3/8/2019 at 4:00 AM, AngelKitty said:

I like the idea of Adam coming back. I wasn't watching when he did all the bad stuff with Sharon and Ashley and babies in the fire so I don't have that memory clouding my judgment.

That's honestly for the best.

Even without that complete blunder that FUBARed Adam as a character, I got pretty sick of his whining and daddy issues as an excuse. It's not like he was raised in the Newman fold like the others--he actually had decent parents. I was hoping that we'd get Ghost!Hope to come in and slap some sense into him or maybe scare him straight A Christmas Carol style.

Honestly, they could've hired fanfiction writers to script Adam's story and gotten a much better result.

[taavir40]

3 hours ago, Anna Yolei said:

That's honestly for the best.

Even without that complete blunder that FUBARed Adam as a character, I got pretty sick of his whining and daddy issues as an excuse. It's not like he was raised in the Newman fold like the others--he actually had decent parents. I was hoping that we'd get Ghost!Hope to come in and slap some sense into him or maybe scare him straight A Christmas Carol style.

Honestly, they could've hired fanfiction writers to script Adam's story and gotten a much better result.

How do you feel about them recasting again? what would you like to see them do

[boes]

1 hour ago, taavir40 said:

How do you feel about them recasting again? what would you like to see them do

With all due respect, why do you want to know?  All of your posts, every single one, deal with the Adam recast/return.

Are you from the show, an agent, from Sony, the network?

Edited March 10, 2019 by boes

[crowsworks]

16 hours ago, miamama said:

yes please.

I think you're right too @valleycliffe. Ashley no doubt created Jack of Hearts. I suspect if she's only back for two days it's to get Jabot back for Jack and she'll give him the perfume for Jabot to start fresh after ensuring Phyllis's ass is kicked out of the company.

Her scorched earth departure was out of character. Ashley Abbott would never destroy Jabot. Nope. Never happen. This way Jack and Ash make amends and Ashley can return to Paris with her successful company that Jack and Jabot promise to never challenge. And Jack regains his rightful position as Jabot CEO.

I really hope this is how it goes down. I hated Ashley's exit. And of course Phyllis as CEO is a fucking MalJoke.

Cool f they aren't going to kill off Neil - have Ashley say he followed her to Paris and they are happy together - but no, that might be good

[pearlite]

7 hours ago, boes said:

With all due respect, why do you want to know?  All of your posts, every single one, deal with the Adam recast/return.

Are you from the show, an agent, from Sony, the network?

If so, allow me to chip in here...

No more Adams. Enough, don't care. Haven't had the remotest interest in the character since Chris Engen's semi-gothic version of Adam.

[taavir40]

9 hours ago, boes said:

With all due respect, why do you want to know?  All of your posts, every single one, deal with the Adam recast/return.

Are you from the show, an agent, from Sony, the network?

no not from the show Just has my favorite character my twitter profile is named  AdamNewmanFan

Edited March 10, 2019 by taavir40
Needed detail

[boes]

1 hour ago, taavir40 said:

no not from the show Just has my favorite character my twitter profile is named  AdamNewmanFan

Very cool!  Thanks!

I'd be interested to know what you'd like to see, who you'd enjoy in the role, especially now that we know the character is returning.  As for me, I'm pretty open to everything.

Edited March 10, 2019 by boes

[taavir40]

9 minutes ago, boes said:

Very cool!  Thanks!

I'd be interested to know what you'd like to see, who you'd enjoy in the role, especially now that we know the character is returning.  As for me, I'm pretty open to everything.

I'm sorry again for all my posts about him I'm just really excited.

For me idc who gets the role lol. I would prefer justin but he's not coming back.

[peacheslatour]

2 minutes ago, taavir40 said:

I'm sorry again for all my posts about him I'm just really excited.

For me idc who gets the role lol. I would prefer justin but he's not coming back.

Speaking of Justin, I'd love to see his cast mate Milo Ventimiglia in the role of Adam. He is the right age and he can act the shit out of brooding. Probably can't get him even though This Is Us is failing in the ratings.

[boes]

31 minutes ago, taavir40 said:

I'm sorry again for all my posts about him I'm just really excited.

For me idc who gets the role lol. I would prefer justin but he's not coming back.

No No NO, Post away!!  Don't stop.

I also have my favorites and I love to hear what people have to say about theirs.

I enjoyed Adam initially and then really hated him during the period where he gaslighted Ashley and, while it didn't affect how I felt about Adam, my liking for Sharon took a real hit when she got involved with him after what he'd done keeping Sharon away from her child.

Then when Justin came on in the role, I enjoyed the character far more than I had when Muhney was playing him but I know there's no chance he's coming back.

If Show does it right, I'd sure rather be watching him as the business man than Nick.

Edited March 10, 2019 by boes

[pearlite]

1 hour ago, taavir40 said:

I'm sorry again for all my posts about him I'm just really excited.

For me idc who gets the role lol. I would prefer justin but he's not coming back.

And don't mind me--I have Capital O Opinions--a lot of them Unpopular Opinions. I feed them and look after them.

No apologies needed.

[taavir40]

What im wondering is though
Adam was missing for like Two years IIRC.
how are they gonna explain his return. His wife and Kid are not here anymore. That just doesn't seem like him to come back because Chelsea and connor are his world

[boes]

1 hour ago, taavir40 said:

What im wondering is though
Adam was missing for like Two years IIRC.
how are they gonna explain his return. His wife and Kid are not here anymore. That just doesn't seem like him to come back because Chelsea and connor are his world

I agree.  Especially since he and Chelsea were planning to run away together and I also don't see him returning without her.  Plus, recasting her, too, would be a lot of recasts at one time.

Any rumors on MCE coming back?

[peacheslatour]

18 minutes ago, boes said:

I agree.  Especially since he and Chelsea were planning to run away together and I also don't see him returning without her.  Plus, recasting her, too, would be a lot of recasts at one time.

Any rumors on MCE coming back?

The only way I see it working is if Chelsea died or they had some sort of horrible falling out. He could always say Conner was away at school until it's time to SORAS him.

[livvie]

I think when Chelsea skipped town she and Connor were joining Adam somewhere.  I'd like them to return as a family, but him alone would be fine too.  Of course, I'd prefer Michael Muhney to reclaim his role as Adam, but doubt it's ever going to happen.  A recast would be fine IF he's a good actor, can do snark, is a little dark and attractive, but no beefcakes please.  I'd rather he look good in a suit with good hair than yet be just another shirtless pec and ab show.

[taavir40]

45 minutes ago, livvie said:

I think when Chelsea skipped town she and Connor were joining Adam somewhere.  I'd like them to return as a family, but him alone would be fine too.  Of course, I'd prefer Michael Muhney to reclaim his role as Adam, but doubt it's ever going to happen.  A recast would be fine IF he's a good actor, can do snark, is a little dark and attractive, but no beefcakes please.  I'd rather he look good in a suit with good hair than yet be just another shirtless pec and ab show.

Or maybe Adam has amnesia 

[boes]

And then there's Plot Point Christian, the mysterious disappearing toddler, one day you see him, the next three years, you don't.

Since Nick moved into the Shake Shack, the only maternal presence he's had is Phyllis, which means he should be rooting for food in a dumpster and greeting his pre-school teachers by humping their leg.

I suppose we'll be in for a custody battle between Nick, Adam and probably Victor, who will be represented by Animal Care and Control.

[miamama]

5 hours ago, taavir40 said:

I'm sorry again for all my posts about him I'm just really excited.

For me idc who gets the role lol. I would prefer justin but he's not coming back.

As other have said, do not apologize for posting. Id' say 90% of my posts in the last few years have been about how much I hate Philly so...

You should feel free to start an Adam Newman thread if you want. We had one back when MM left the role but it fell way down obviously as that was five years ago.

I generally agreed with @pearlite that show doesn't need Adam. However with the current crop of 30- and 40something men on show I now think we do need him. JT's Billy is ugh and JT seems as stuck on Philly as GT so I don't buy him as an actual character. He's just Jason Thompson pretending he's in a romcom with Gina Tognoni. Nick is loathsome and JM has zero range. Cane is an annoying creepy whispering corpse who should have left when he died years ago. Show can't seem to give Devon serious story and also Bryton James (who seems really cool) looks eternally 15 to me. I have no interest in the scruffy Rosales brothers because they have no ties to show and they are both meh.

So I'd like to see Adam return. Show needs a strong leading man who isn't EB and PB any more. They can carry their generation. But there needs to be a strong 30- or 40-something guy. MM's Kyle is pulling up the younger set nicely.

In any case show is being careful about selecting the actor. They don't have room to screw it up. The new actor playing Adam will have to stick or the character is dead imo.

[dbklmt]

44 minutes ago, miamama said:

As other have said, do not apologize for posting. Id' say 90% of my posts in the last few years have been about how much I hate Philly so...

You should feel free to start an Adam Newman thread if you want. We had one back when MM left the role but it fell way down obviously as that was five years ago.

There is a thread already about Adam Newman and imo this is where this discussion should take place.

https://forums.previously.tv/topic/8693-adam-newman-now-young-still-restless/?do=getNewComment

[taavir40]

[spinxella]

[miamama]

I find the best predictor of character is recalling JG faves. He loved MCE and JC. He very much wanted to create new younger leading ladies and made it clear they were it. Phyllis was backburned and Sharon not quite backburned became a foil to Chadam.

He also loved HK. He brought her (along with JFP) from that other show they did (with Ordway and the guy who plays Noah).

I doubt Jessica Collins returns but for sure could see MCE. And I think the Kyle Summer Lola triangle won’t be quite so Lola skewed as it was under Mal.

[valleycliffe]

if they are bringing chelz back, i really do hope it's a recast..

i can't stand mce...loathed her since her crazy annie lavery days on amc.

[NinjaPenguins]

I do not want Adam back if he’s bringing Chelsea with him. I’d like to have Adam back, but I’ve never bought their relationship and always found it boring. *GASP*

[taavir40]

8 minutes ago, NinjaPenguins said:

41 minutes ago, miamama said:

I find the best predictor of character is recalling JG faves. He loved MCE and JC. He very much wanted to create new younger leading ladies and made it clear they were it. Phyllis was backburned and Sharon not quite backburned became a foil to Chadam.

He also loved HK. He brought her (along with JFP) from that other show they did (with Ordway and the guy who plays Noah).

I doubt Jessica Collins returns but for sure could see MCE. And I think the Kyle Summer Lola triangle won’t be quite so Lola skewed as it was under Mal.

I knew as soon as they announced they were bringing Adam back that Chelsea would follow. I'm excited to how her return will lead to that.

[Anna Yolei]

21 hours ago, taavir40 said:

What im wondering is though
Adam was missing for like Two years IIRC.
how are they gonna explain his return. His wife and Kid are not here anymore. That just doesn't seem like him to come back because Chelsea and connor are his world

This is a genre where we've seen people die on screen, in hospitals, and the character's body was supposedly switched with that of a wax dummy that no one noticed. And exactly how many fires have characters like Sheila survived? 😂

I'm with Pearlite, though. I'm far over Adam as a character and I'm not interested in the inevitable pissing match between him and Nick that will result over Christian, Sharon and Daddy Warbuck's attention. Unless the two of them put all that aside to beat the shit out of Buttbiscuit for existing sleeping with Dummer. And that's only because Billy is the only character I like less than Victor on this show and I'm tired of him being Dylan McAvoy 2.0.

Edited March 11, 2019 by Anna Yolei

[Anna Yolei]

4 hours ago, NinjaPenguins said:

I do not want Adam back if he’s bringing Chelsea with him. I’d like to have Adam back, but I’ve never bought their relationship and always found it boring. *GASP*

I never really hated it tbh. Two crooks with dark pasts finding each other and it helped that Adam never switch any of Chelsea's many, many, many, many babies (I swear she was pregnant so often she got the nickname Chibble after the Star Trek tribbles than plauged the Enterprise with their rapid breeding!).

[taavir40]

RUMOR: Sharon Victoria & Nikki are found guilty of murder & sentenced to life in prison. Nick and Billy help them escape during the prison, & hide them at the Abbott cabin. Also, they find JT and hit him on the head again, but this time they call the Police and JT is arrested.

This is Josh if true 

[Kitty Redstone]

That all sounds horrible.  😞

[basiltherat]

Did this happen on a dark and stormy night, 'cuz it sounds like something written in grade school!  Or maybe Josh just wants to get this storyline the hell over with and ends it like Pam waking up from a dream and Bobby is alive!

[taavir40]

You all pls be nice to Josh 😂

[crowsworks]

17 hours ago, NinjaPenguins said:

I do not want Adam back if he’s bringing Chelsea with him. I’d like to have Adam back, but I’ve never bought their relationship and always found it boring. *GASP*

If Chels had been a real con and she and Adam had used her talent as a Lady MacBeth/Nora Charles side kick and helpmate instead of a gasping 50's style housewife....yeah. New actress. They got his and hers plastic surgery. Bitch and bastard turning GC upside down.

[HeatLifer]

7 hours ago, Kitty Redstone said:

That all sounds horrible.  😞

True. But it also sounds like Josh is trying to wrap up Mal’s mess.

Edited March 12, 2019 by HeatLifer

[ByTor]

2 hours ago, crowsworks said:

They got his and hers plastic surgery.

This is one thing soaps do now that I absolutely loathe.  Just have the random voice announce "The role of so-and-so is now being played by such-and-such" and leave it at that.

[valleycliffe]

blech blech vomit gag....

someone at a different forum suggested rebecca budig as chelz 2.o🤢

only thing worse would be to have cam mat as adam 🤢

Edited March 12, 2019 by valleycliffe

[boes]

52 minutes ago, valleycliffe said:

blech blech vomit gag....

someone at a different forum suggested rebecca budig as chelz 2.o🤢

only thing worse would be to have cam mat as adam 🤢

ACK!!!  NOT the Green Butterfly and Thong Boy!  

RAID!!

Kills bad ideas dead.

[Toomuchsoap]

8 hours ago, HeatLifer said:

True. But it also sounds like Josh is trying to wrap up Mal’s mess.

Well, I just gotta say that that would be creating his own stinking mess piles for someone else to clean up afterward. That stuff sounds like fanfic. Come on, folks. JT was not the victim of intentional homicide. Nikki was trying to disable him to get his hands off Victoria. Life in prison? That's just stupid (though it sounds about par for the course on Y&R these days). But on reflection, maybe life behind bars is what these gals deserve for trying to cover up what happened and dispose of the body and then pretend for the past nine or so months that nothing happened.

Edited March 12, 2019 by Toomuchsoap

[Anna Yolei]

8 hours ago, Toomuchsoap said:

Well, I just gotta say that that would be creating his own stinking mess piles for someone else to clean up afterward. That stuff sounds like fanfic. Come on, folks. JT was not the victim of intentional homicide. Nikki was trying to disable him to get his hands off Victoria. Life in prison? That's just stupid (though it sounds about par for the course on Y&R these days). But on reflection, maybe life behind bars is what these gals deserve for trying to cover up what happened and dispose of the body and then pretend for the past nine or so months that nothing happened.

Nine months?! Has it really been that long? It's like we're back in the good ol' days of Bill Bell where you can stop watching for a year and nothing has happened 😂

Also, I haven't been watching closely, so how the hell with Saint Phyllis weasel herself out of a room at Club Fed? She was the one that encouraged the other three stooges to go along with it!

IRL, no court would have convicted any of these rich ass white women of murder. Obstruction of justice maybe and they'd probably have gotten a fine, but a life sentence? Not even Lily got that and she had no excuse like abuse to lay back on for why Hillary died.

[boes]

44 minutes ago, Anna Yolei said:

Also, I haven't been watching closely, so how the hell with Saint Phyllis weasel herself out of a room at Club Fed? She was the one that encouraged the other three stooges to go along with it!

Phyllis cut a deal with Christine, turned on the other 3 and got immunity.

The same way she's built up an immunity to penicillin, not mention wooden stakes (gosh, that just made me think of Nick AND ButtBiscuit!), holy water and sunlight.