Rotting Y&R: The Spoiler Thread

[Big Blue Plate]

20 hours ago, boes said:

his town attire should be board shorts, flip flops, shades and a doobie.

He's playing Josh Morrow?

[jewel21]

I remember Scotty being a doctor as well.

[Snaporaz]

Scott, his dad, was a doctor.  But I'm pretty sure Scotty was an English professor and a writer.  Sheila found him in Toronto and weaseled her way into becoming his research assistant or something.  This all happened when Michael and Lauren got married.  I wish I was motivated to look it up, but it's Friday night and I'm feeling lazy!

[PatsyandEddie]

Maybe that's it then. I have CRS - can't remember shit ?

[Big Blue Plate]

Stinkipedia says he's a writer. Soapcentral says he was last studying for a master's in education.  Maria Bell says he's secretly the son of a a foreign prince seeking to regain his throne, conceived when Lauren was on a buying trip to Secretprincia.  Jill  Farren Phelps says she's never heard of him.  

[Big Blue Plate]

If you ask me he's got a little bit of Poldark going on... what's his name... Aidan Turner... me likey.

It's interesting how in some ways Sally is taking us back to 1987 again... she definitely seems to be building up the Fenmore wing as a third family... which is good for the gene pool and a general lowering of the creep factor, which was approaching Forrester levels with who'd banged who. I guess that is a natural opportunity without introducing a wholly new family that we had to get used to.   That's a Bell trick that worked..... the Abbotts all flowed from Jack who was originally kind of a lone wolf character... If the Kale Brown casting rumour is true... and even if it isn't it looks like Sharon's getting a father... maybe that is someone for Gloria to chase.  Gloria's far more entertaining down on her luck than having a run of it. 

Am I right in recalling the actor who played Doris has died IRL?  

[valleycliffe]

nope, karen hensel is still alive and lives in california...she just turned 69 in november.

ETA:  there is a rumor about kale brown?  haven't heard of him since he played michael hudson on aw...

if we could have druthers, i would druther it was walt willey.

Edited January 28, 2017 by valleycliffe
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[LeftPhalange]

17 minutes ago, Big Blue Plate said:

If the Kale Brown casting rumour is true... and even if it isn't it looks like Sharon's getting a father

Is this rumor from the same place that said Frisky was going to be Sharon's father?

[peacheslatour]

7 minutes ago, LeftPhalange said:

Is this rumor from the same place that said Frisky was going to be Sharon's father?

Now they're saying "Billy and Victoria get physical" I hope that means they get in a knock down drag out fight.

[Big Blue Plate]

Sorry... my error... I was thinking of the Walt Willey rumour... not Kale Brown.  I just confused the two. 

[PatsyandEddie]

Most definitely Big Blue Plate! ? 

[boes]

Kale Browne played Sam Rappaport on OLTL.  Good actor, sucky character IMO.  He was also on Days but I don't think I was watching when he was on that soap.

[basiltherat]

Wasn't Kale a FOJ?  If so, his entry is a wee late to save his benefactress.

Asa Buchanan shakes his fist from his grave at the mention of the hated name "Rappaport"

[Toomuchsoap]

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It's interesting how in some ways Sally is taking us back to 1987 again...

Yeah. I've noticed that. I'm a little baffled. If the coveted demographic the network's trying to appeal to and grow is for viewers in the 18-49 year old range, it seems counterintuitive to be scripting shows that are throwbacks to an era when I myself was thirty. Stories that appealed to younger viewers in the late eighties and early nineties surely can't appeal today. If they resonate with viewers who are in their late forties to sixties it's because they're comfortable and reassuring, but they seriously will have no appeal to younger targeted viewers they're trying to lure. It won't work.

The overall emphasis on showing the angst of raising kids - which BTW was NEVER the focus of this show at any point in its history, even during the treacly Shick/Cassie days - is not resonating with viewers or is it improving the ratings overall. They need to reset this stat. I sort of like the idea of showing the newly-SORASed Reed, but I could do without showing all the ridiculously unbelievable interaction between Victoria and Billy. Neither one of these characters are suburban homebodies. Cut it out, Sally! Have Reed doing what they had the high school crowd do back in the nineties, but the emphasis shouldn't be on the shrill infighting between his parent and his former stepfather, but on what the kids are doing behind their parents' backs that they know nothing about and don't stumble on until it's too obvious to miss and a crisis. This banal daily drivel is just boring as hell.

I don't think bringing back a character like Scotty or Nate is a bad idea either, so why the hell is it that Fen isn't? Isn't he now closer in age to Summer, Abby and Mariah? It sounds as if they de-SORASed Scotty, so I guess this is okaaaay, but the character most viewers actually remember as a graduating teen from high school is Fen, not his older half-sibling. Scotty hasn't had any contact with GC for over twenty years that I can remember (I mean, was he even at his mother's wedding to Michael? I don't remember that he was). I know Max Erich is not available, so recast. It's easy. They do need to build the younger generations, but recreating plots that feel more like old black and white sitcoms from a long bygone era isn't the way to achieve it.

Edited January 29, 2017 by Toomuchsoap

[Anna Yolei]

As someone in that 18 to 35 demographic, I agree with everything Toomuchsoap said. My other friends gave up soaps years ago for this kind of banality. A healthy respect for history is welcomed but evolve the way the stories are told. No one buys porn anymore, every business from a mega corporation to the stay-at-home mom who slaps chalk paint on old furniture she found off the free section of Craigslist has a Web presence and no one finds endless custody battles entertaining--least of all when the same set of parents have gotten this same story at least twice under the last two HWs.

[LeftPhalange]

SSA was a writer on this show during the mid-2000s, which wasn't THAT long ago. I don't understand why so much of this show seems like it's being written by people who have no idea that it's 2017. 

[peacheslatour]

Gee, I wonder who the new manager of the GCAC is going to be? Someone who is energetic, stylish and has a big pile of dirt on a certain Mr. Abbott perhaps?

[bc1795]

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Gee, I wonder who the new manager of the GCAC is going to be? Someone who is energetic, stylish and has a big pile of dirt on a certain Mr. Abbott perhaps?

Obviously Faith.

[peacheslatour]

1 minute ago, bc1795 said:

Obviously Faith.

Makes about as much sense as anything else in this train wreck. Maybe the Pixie Stick Twins can be the new Chief of Police and District Attorney.

[Anna Yolei]

3 hours ago, peacheslatour said:

Makes about as much sense as anything else in this train wreck. Maybe the Pixie Stick Twins can be the new Chief of Police and District Attorney.

Charlie and Maddie would have better sense not to put a guy who is already on edge on an undercover mission with no training.

[valleycliffe]

LOL  guess sally and mal are going to give banana boy and chelseacon a chance...

they get busy next week for valentine's day...good lord, my eyes just rolled so far back in my head i think they're stuck now....

[Anna Yolei]

20 minutes ago, valleycliffe said:

LOL  guess sally and mal are going to give banana boy and chelseacon a chance...

they get busy next week for valentine's day...good lord, my eyes just rolled so far back in my head i think they're stuck now....

I'm frankly surprised it took this long for them to fall in bed with one another. 

Under JFPratt,  she'd probably be in her second trimester by now.

[Shicklove1]

4 hours ago, valleycliffe said:

LOL  guess sally and mal are going to give banana boy and chelseacon a chance...

they get busy next week for valentine's day...good lord, my eyes just rolled so far back in my head i think they're stuck now....

I think I just threw up in my mouth a little bit this couple is  disgusting, boring and pathetic.   Geeeeez they make boring dumb Nage look good and that says it all.

Edited February 9, 2017 by Shicklove1

[valleycliffe]

LOL  they are sorta copying the sick storyline.

apparently, they decide to have an official first date.  then the bartender gets sick and nick has to end the date to go to the club.. chelseacon says she used to be a bartender and she will help him...when he takes her home, he goes to hug her but they kiss instead...oh well, at least it wasn't sex on a storage room dropcloth.. oh, it's valentine's day too.

[Toomuchsoap]

I don't care who Nick's boning. I haven't cared about this frat boy since he tom-catted around on his marriage and son back in the day -- and, frankly, well before that. This character and the actor who portrays him (so poorly) are a waste of air. JM makes it painfully obvious that he abhors shick and he's dragged SC for years any time he's gotten the chance. ENOUGH with shick. Sharon needs to grow up and allow herself to heal herself. If she did that, she'd turn around and gaze back onto just what that reality was and realize what a dreckhole life was like when she wallowed in self-pity and allowed herself to be disrespected and used by banana boy and his family.

[LeftPhalange]

I'm not convinced Nick/Chelsea will go anywhere. I doubt SSA can resit the super appealing allure of round 42344 of toxic Shick. 

[valleycliffe]

31 minutes ago, Toomuchsoap said:

JM makes it painfully obvious that he abhors shick and he's dragged SC for years any time he's gotten the chance.

and it's usually when a new ep/hw comes in and has a new pet....

then he's all gung ho with the newest pairing.

he knows what side his bread is buttered on...

****** disclaimer******

this is MY OPINION....no one needs to agree or disagree.

[Toomuchsoap]

45 minutes ago, valleycliffe said:

and it's usually when a new ep/hw comes in and has a new pet....

then he's all gung ho with the newest pairing.

he knows what side his bread is buttered on...

****** disclaimer******

this is MY OPINION....no one needs to agree or disagree.

You're right. It's pretty obvious, but it was already happening before JFP got sacked. He was talking more than a year ago about how he wanted to work with MCE. I don't think he was ever enthusiastic about being paired with KS, but his distaste for shick was obvious long before that. I know that LLM and MS were conducting that Phick train back in the day, but he was lapping that up like a kitten and a saucer of cream.

I actually don't know if MCE is as well regarded by SSM, MY and the CBS execs as many seem to think. Yeah, she's married to some guy at CBS sports. So big deal. Nobody actually knows his name. Maybe I've seen it printed or something in the last couple of years, but he's not one of the announcers or on any big executive level from what I can determine. Soap actors who are married to other same-network stars or executives of a much higher caliber-level than her husband have gotten shit canned when they and their roles have been deemed expendable for whatever reason. It could happen to her, especially since it appears that SSM is really not planning on bringing Adam back from the dead (which I think is a mistake, personally, for several reasons). So if the Chick pairing flops, I could see them making a decision that she's expendable especially if Adam is a no-go. It certainly ain't gonna happen to JM.

Edited February 10, 2017 by Toomuchsoap

[Anna Yolei]

2 hours ago, Toomuchsoap said:

I don't care who Nick's boning. I haven't cared about this frat boy since he tom-catted around on his marriage and son back in the day -- and, frankly, well before that.

Are you referring to his boning Phyllis or Grace here? ;)

2 hours ago, LeftPhalange said:

I'm not convinced Nick/Chelsea will go anywhere. I doubt SSA can resit the super appealing allure of round 42344 of toxic Shick. 

I'm not sure which of those options I hate the least.

Chick would only really work if TPTB were looking to bring Adam back in the near future or finally getting to the reveal of Christian as Adam's. Beyond that, why bother?

Shick has been a hot mess even in their hacylon days. Sharon should've shown him the door after his complete lack of empathy over the baby they thought was Matt Clark's.

[LeftPhalange]

4 minutes ago, Anna Yolei said:

Shick has been a hot mess even in their hacylon days. Sharon should've shown him the door after his complete lack of empathy over the baby they thought was Matt Clark's.

Since I don't care about either Sharon or Nick I'd rather they get back together permanently so their vortex of suck can be contained. 

[peacheslatour]

1 minute ago, LeftPhalange said:

Since I don't care about either Sharon or Nick I'd rather they get back together permanently so their vortex of suck can be contained. 

That's how I feel about Nicktor. I actually don't mind Drinkki but I can't stand seeing Prick romancing another plot point..er I mean woman.

[valleycliffe]

17 minutes ago, Anna Yolei said:

Chick would only really work if TPTB were looking to bring Adam back in the near future or finally getting to the reveal of Christian as Adam's. Beyond that, why bother?

i imagine tptb are hoping for an explosive reaction from the fans for pairing them.. they are expecting joy...

LOL  but, i consider baboon's and the cons chemistry is equivalent to mixing ammonia with sulphur..

in case you didn't know, those are the ingredients to make a "stink bomb".

[Toomuchsoap]

1 hour ago, LeftPhalange said:

Since I don't care about either Sharon or Nick I'd rather they get back together permanently so their vortex of suck can be contained. 

Unfortunately, they wouldn't be backburnered. We'd be inflicted with their odiousness, along with that blonde kid of theirs and get to see Nikki's upturned snout as a little lagniappe. Ah, a return to the good old days! When America is made "great again".

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Are you referring to his boning Phyllis or Grace here? ;) 

Anybody he's ever boned, and that includes Sharon. I've just never cared for any of his so-called *romantic* pairings. I just snorted with derisive laughter at the thought of him even attempting to "romance" a woman. Any woman.

Edited February 10, 2017 by Toomuchsoap

[Anna Yolei]

2 hours ago, Toomuchsoap said:

Unfortunately, they wouldn't be backburnered. We'd be inflicted with their odiousness, along with that blonde kid of theirs and get to see Nikki's upturned snout as a little lagniappe. Ah, a return to the good old days! When America is made "great again".

I imagine Faith's dream of reuniting her parents would turn into a case of being careful what you wish for. She'd either become a worse brat since she'd no longer be able to play them against one another or have to suffer living under the roof with both of them as they continue the same self-destruction they've engaged in since before even Noah was born.

I'm so confused how this ever became such a major supercouple. I've seen clips of other such pairings and I can see a *there* there, even for Pricktor and Drinkki. Even as teens before there was any baggage with cheating or skipping town, my reaction to them is: Eh. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 

Edited February 10, 2017 by Anna Yolei

[LeftPhalange]

3 minutes ago, Anna Yolei said:

have to suffer living under the roof with both of them as they continue the same self-destruction they've engaged in since before even Noah was born.

Thanks for reminding me of another reason why Shick should get back together

 

4 minutes ago, Anna Yolei said:

I'm so confused how this ever became such a major supercouple. I've seen clips of other such pairings and I can see a *there* there, even for Pricktor and Drinkki. Even as teens before there was any baggage with cheating or skipping town, my reaction to them is: Eh. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 

My computer fell asleep when I watched scenes of Shick back during their first attempt at domestication. 

[crowsworks]

On ‎1‎/‎29‎/‎2017 at 3:22 PM, Toomuchsoap said:

Yeah. I've noticed that. I'm a little baffled. If the coveted demographic the network's trying to appeal to and grow is for viewers in the 18-49 year old range, it seems counterintuitive to be scripting shows that are throwbacks to an era when I myself was thirty. Stories that appealed to younger viewers in the late eighties and early nineties surely can't appeal today. If they resonate with viewers who are in their late forties to sixties it's because they're comfortable and reassuring, but they seriously will have no appeal to younger targeted viewers they're trying to lure. It won't work.

The overall emphasis on showing the angst of raising kids - which BTW was NEVER the focus of this show at any point in its history, even during the treacly Shick/Cassie days - is not resonating with viewers or is it improving the ratings overall. They need to reset this stat. I sort of like the idea of showing the newly-SORASed Reed, but I could do without showing all the ridiculously unbelievable interaction between Victoria and Billy. Neither one of these characters are suburban homebodies. Cut it out, Sally! Have Reed doing what they had the high school crowd do back in the nineties, but the emphasis shouldn't be on the shrill infighting between his parent and his former stepfather, but on what the kids are doing behind their parents' backs that they know nothing about and don't stumble on until it's too obvious to miss and a crisis. This banal daily drivel is just boring as hell.

I don't think bringing back a character like Scotty or Nate is a bad idea either, so why the hell is it that Fen isn't? Isn't he now closer in age to Summer, Abby and Mariah? It sounds as if they de-SORASed Scotty, so I guess this is okaaaay, but the character most viewers actually remember as a graduating teen from high school is Fen, not his older half-sibling. Scotty hasn't had any contact with GC for over twenty years that I can remember (I mean, was he even at his mother's wedding to Michael? I don't remember that he was). I know Max Erich is not available, so recast. It's easy. They do need to build the younger generations, but recreating plots that feel more like old black and white sitcoms from a long bygone era isn't the way to achieve it.

I look for Reed to move to the  Niktor Home For Wayward Children Of Spoiled Brats

[Toomuchsoap]

9 hours ago, crowsworks said:

I look for Reed to move to the  Niktor Home For Wayward Children Of Spoiled Brats

I look for that to happen as well. At least he'll have a piano and someone that's not tone deaf to hear his musical ability. Gotta move Faith back in with either Nick or Sharon to start causing a fissure between Chick, so that seems likely. 

[JessePinkman]

Scott was on the show in 2005 and around 20-22 years old. He's in his early to mid 30s right now and the perfect candidate to bring back. In fact he's too young for Sharon but that'll be ignored just like with Billy and Victoria who are inexplicably meant to now be the same age.

[peacheslatour]

5 minutes ago, JessePinkman said:

Scott was on the show in 2005 and around 20-22 years old. He's in his early to mid 30s right now and the perfect candidate to bring back. In fact he's too young for Sharon but that'll be ignored just like with Billy and Victoria who are inexplicably meant to now be the same age.

Well maybe Mariah or Hilary?

[valleycliffe]

3/3, Look as if Nick and Chelsea are ready to make up for lost time. How close will they get.

BLECH....got this spoiler from a different board i visit and they got it from abc sid.....

hopefully he wraps it up and the tribble doesn't get knocked up...

[crowsworks]

On 2/22/2017 at 11:40 AM, valleycliffe said:

3/3, Look as if Nick and Chelsea are ready to make up for lost time. How close will they get.

BLECH....got this spoiler from a different board i visit and they got it from abc sid.....

hopefully he wraps it up and the tribble doesn't get knocked up...

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Are you kidding? SHe got preggers from the first kiss. In a month (IN Vetro Sorasing) she'll be designing her maternity wedding gown in time for Adam's return.

That would be her second maternity wedding gown....

[valleycliffe]

according to sod, cane , with the help from juliet, gets the deal with mr. sato.  they decide to go out and celebrate and juliet plays tour guide...they get drunk on saki and the next morning he finds juliets earring in his sheets or something.

i wonder if this will break up lily and cane?

will juliet get pregnant with cane's child?  

and jordon saves lily from a fan.

[Anna Yolei]

Between Cane's identity-go-round, the gaslighting and Lily's affair, I doubt we'll ever be rid of Lane....just like herpes.

ETA: I just realized that next to Michael/Lauren, Lane has been the longest consistently married couples on Show, if not on all four remaining shows. 

Just.....?

Edited March 14, 2017 by Anna Yolei

[pearlite]

1 hour ago, Anna Yolei said:

Between Cane's identity-go-round, the gaslighting and Lily's affair, I doubt we'll ever be rid of Lane....just like herpes.

ETA: I just realized that next to Michael/Lauren, Lane has been the longest consistently married couples on Show, if not on all four remaining shows. 

Just.....?

Cane is unkillable. A serious effort was made in that noirish scene with the Mozart Requiem or whatever playing in the background. Sometimes a good, stylish effort just isn't enough.

[peacheslatour]

I wonder what Miss Julie (Julia? Can't remember) has up her sleeve, she had quite the smirk when Cane was leaving.

[basiltherat]

Some girls sleep with their bosses to get a promotion, and this one just pretends to sleep with Cane -- you'd smirk, too.

[MollyB]

^she already told him what she wants re B&S.  But given what she said in Asian Business Tutorial #1, she, as a woman wouldn't be accepted or respected as a deal maker unless she had Victoria's cache, as in owning the company and being Victor Newman's spawn.  So how does blackmail figure into any of this?

Edited March 14, 2017 by MollyB
speling

[peacheslatour]

I just read a spoiler on another site "Sharon and Scott connect; Sharon opens up to Scott"

[Snaporaz]

28 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

I just read a spoiler on another site "Sharon and Scott connect; Sharon opens up to Scott"

Funny...in the supermarket this morning, one of those soap mags had a blurb on the cover something along the lines of A New Love For Phyllis.  I assumed that was Scotty, although my gut tells me Ahmed was more than his driver.

[spinxella]

Edited March 19, 2017 by spinxella