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[LexieLily]

Who the (Bleep) Did I Marry? premieres tonight at 9:00. The last season of the show was 2015.

[Annber03]

7 hours ago, LexieLily said:

Who the (Bleep) Did I Marry? premieres tonight at 9:00. The last season of the show was 2015.

And what a story to start off with tonight! Holy shit, the guy in this episode was a real piece of work. I seriously lost count of how many times I said, "Are you kidding?"/"Are you serious?" throughout. 

The way all that craziness ended was complete and total bullshit. 

[kathyk24]

1 hour ago, Annber03 said:

And what a story to start off with tonight! Holy shit, the guy in this episode was a real piece of work. I seriously lost count of how many times I said, "Are you kidding?"/"Are you serious?" throughout. 

The way all that craziness ended was complete and total bullshit. 

I know I kept waiting to find out that the baby was his. The military is screwed up that innocent family members should be punished by the actions of someone else.

[Annber03]

10 minutes ago, kathyk24 said:

I know I kept waiting to find out that the baby was his. The military is screwed up that innocent family members should be punished by the actions of someone else.

I'm so glad Kris worked to get legislation passed to change that. 'Cause yeah, that's not fair at all, and they should be able to be protected if they need to raise the alarm about their spouse's criminal activity. Not only were his actions hurting Kris and her children, but he was also putting the military's safety, security, and finances at major risk. In the midst of two major wars, no less. 

I was expecting that revelation about the baby, too. For the baby's sake, I'm glad this creep isn't their biological dad. His comments at the trial about how his mistress and her child were his whole life, and the reaction of one of Kris' kids to that....that's downright cold. Just. Damn. 

Edited October 16, 2022 by Annber03

[LuvMyShows]

On 10/14/2022 at 11:19 AM, LuvMyShows said:

I discovered this show a few years ago and posted about it then, but finally got around to finishing the series and I highly recommend it.  It's called Catching Killers, and it's on Amazon Prime.  It was actually produced by the Smithsonian, and each episode delves into a different crime-solving technique, like fire analysis, DNA profiling, insect analysis, etc.  

Quoting myself because it's really such a good show, and I now have so much more of an appreciation both for where forensics has evolved from and what forensics workers do now, especially given the awful experiments that they do on Reasonable Doubt.

Also enjoying the Bizarre Murders show on True Crime Network's app.  Mostly they've been ones I've (surprisingly) never heard of, but they did have that one where the wife was letting her boyfriend sleep in her closet and the husband didn't know.  The episodes are short, so you can almost finish a whole episode in the time it takes to fold and put away a load of laundry.  I've definitely started watching more shows on the apps, so that I can watch (or listen) while doing household chores/tasks.

[Minivanessa]

On 9/20/2022 at 12:05 PM, Razzberry said:

Oxygen also has a new series called "Black Widow Murders" starting this Sunday.

https://www.oxygen.com/black-widow-murders

On 9/26/2022 at 11:22 AM, Razzberry said:

Oxygen's premier episode of Black Widow Murders was a disappointing rehash of a case I'd already seen, probably on Deadly Women. 

Hi folks. I've been reading here but not posting much, but had to drop in and share this. Filed under "Minor Woo Woo Stuff That Happened to Me."

Last week I re-read a true crime book - Confessions of an American Black Widow (formerly titled "Bitch On Wheels"). It's the story of Sharon Fuller Nelson Harrelson's real life romp through marriage, adultery, and murder. I took a particular interest in it because all this happened in Colorado so I'm familiar with a lot of the locations. I don't remember seeing the case on any true crime show.

I gotta tell ya, the woman was quite the operator when it came to men and sex and money, and I sometimes had to pay attention lest I lose the plot as she plowed her destructive way through the lives of others. It was depressing and distressing to follow that narrative. She really wrecked lives - and not just those of the two men who were murdered. Anyway, I ended the book and made a mental note to find out if she was yet released from prison. 

Then, the "woo woo" part, aka "spooky coincidence": That very night on Oxygen's "Black Widow Murders," was the premiere of S1:E3 "Sharon Nelson Harrelson." Having just refreshed my memory of all the deets of her doings, I thought the episode over-simplified the twisted tale, but OTOH they couldn't fit it all into a single episode. The book made clear, as the show didn't, that of the two detectives who handled the case, the woman was the senior partner, or at least that's how it struck me as I watched. But yes, they in fact got a murder confession in a Pizza Hut. I guess you sometimes really can't make this sh*t up. 

I did find out what happened to Sharon in one of the final screens before the credits, but I'll spoiler tag it just in case anybody wants to watch the episode without knowing.

Spoiler

She died of natural causes in prison in 2017. 

[SunnyBeBe]

29 minutes ago, Jeeves said:

Hi folks. I've been reading here but not posting much, but had to drop in and share this. Filed under "Minor Woo Woo Stuff That Happened to Me."

Last week I re-read a true crime book - Confessions of an American Black Widow (formerly titled "Bitch On Wheels"). It's the story of Sharon Fuller Nelson Harrelson's real life romp through marriage, adultery, and murder. I took a particular interest in it because all this happened in Colorado so I'm familiar with a lot of the locations. I don't remember seeing the case on any true crime show.

I gotta tell ya, the woman was quite the operator when it came to men and sex and money, and I sometimes had to pay attention lest I lose the plot as she plowed her destructive way through the lives of others. It was depressing and distressing to follow that narrative. She really wrecked lives - and not just those of the two men who were murdered. Anyway, I ended the book and made a mental note to find out if she was yet released from prison. 

Then, the "woo woo" part, aka "spooky coincidence": That very night on Oxygen's "Black Widow Murders," was the premiere of S1:E3 "Sharon Nelson Harrelson." Having just refreshed my memory of all the deets of her doings, I thought the episode over-simplified the twisted tale, but OTOH they couldn't fit it all into a single episode. The book made clear, as the show didn't, that of the two detectives who handled the case, the woman was the senior partner, or at least that's how it struck me as I watched. But yes, they in fact got a murder confession in a Pizza Hut. I guess you sometimes really can't make this sh*t up. 

I did find out what happened to Sharon in one of the final screens before the credits, but I'll spoiler tag it just in case anybody wants to watch the episode without knowing.

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She died of natural causes in prison in 2017. 

That sounds intriguing.  I might check it out.  
 

I just binged a 6 part series called Black Butterflies on Netflix, that I thought was based on a true story, only to find it was NOT.  Omg,  anyway, I’m relieved it wasn’t true.  It was the most violent thing I’ve ever seen hands down.  I’m talking horror movies too. Just horrendous.  
 

I did locate that new Gabby Petito special that I posed about upthread.  It’s really pretty good, although I haven’t finished it yet.  

[Minivanessa]

On 10/15/2022 at 11:23 PM, Annber03 said:

And what a story to start off with tonight! Holy shit, the guy in this episode was a real piece of work. I seriously lost count of how many times I said, "Are you kidding?"/"Are you serious?" throughout. 

The way all that craziness ended was complete and total bullshit. 

I agree, so much "WTAF??" stuff in this story, I was just stunned. Did he think he could really get away with all of it? Of course, yeah, he kinda did. Handy that his dad could come up with the $300K to pay his fine to keep him from serving years of imprisonment. 

I swear, when they showed photos of him taken during his military career, I kept thinking, "Man, he has crazy eyes." Creepy crazy eyes. 

[Razzberry]

3 hours ago, Jeeves said:

Then, the "woo woo" part, aka "spooky coincidence": That very night on Oxygen's "Black Widow Murders," was the premiere of S1:E3 "Sharon Nelson Harrelson."

That was a good one, and new to me.  Not so good for her husbands though.  

Has anyone heard about Paul Holes' new show or special?  I only caught the tail end of a quick promo, but missed any pertinent info, naturally.  Oxygen never updated "DNA of Murder" cases, and his podcast "Murder Squad" got the plug pulled because his co-host Billy Jensen had a drinking problem and a lot of pissed off females complaining about his touchy-feely behavior.

[LuvMyShows]

2 hours ago, Razzberry said:

Has anyone heard about Paul Holes' new show or special?  

I saw two things that you might be referring to:

- New show on HLN https://cnnpressroom.blogs.cnn.com/2022/10/04/real-life-nightmare-returns-for-season-four-with-new-host-paul-holes-on-sunday-november-13/

- New podcast https://abc7news.com/cold-case-investigator-paul-holes-true-crime-podcast-buried-bones-golden-state-killer/12281982/

[Razzberry]

Thanks, LuvMyShows.  Looking forward to Holes hosting that show on HLN, and am listening to the podcasts "Buried Bones" right now.  All new (to me) cases.

https://www.exactlyrightmedia.com/buried-bones

[LexieLily]

New show premiering tonight on ID: No One Can Hear You Scream, Mondays at 8:00 PM. 

[Annber03]

7 hours ago, Jeeves said:

I agree, so much "WTAF??" stuff in this story, I was just stunned. Did he think he could really get away with all of it? Of course, yeah, he kinda did. Handy that his dad could come up with the $300K to pay his fine to keep him from serving years of imprisonment. 

I swear, when they showed photos of him taken during his military career, I kept thinking, "Man, he has crazy eyes." Creepy crazy eyes. 

He really did!

And yeah, he's sitting here telling his wife, "Don't tell anyone about the affair!" and I'm like, "Dude, you're the one who made that divorce chart. You're the one who was sending e-mails back and forth with your mistress. You're the one who left a financial paper trail that allowed people to track your movements and the stuff you paid for (and the people you gave money to). You're the one who brought your mistress and her family to your wife's home, and filed for divorce without your wife knowing, and made a damn sex tape with said mistress that your wife found." If he's that worried about anyone finding out about his affair either a) don't have one in the first place, which would, of course, be the logical, obvious, decent option, or b) if he's going to insist on doing so, then for god's sakes, hide your tracks better, you moronic asshole. 

But yeah, of course he was willing to be so brazen after a time, because he knew Daddy would come along with his checkbook and bail him out. And you just know this likely wasn't the first time his parents have bailed him out of a troubling situation, too. 

[Tabbygirl521]

On 10/10/2022 at 8:03 PM, SunnyBeBe said:

I saw a story on ID a few years ago about a woman who went missing from a truck stop some years ago.  I can’t recall the state, but it seems like it was in the south.  She was reported missing and no one heard from her or could find her for years. Her family was distraught.  She was even featured on a tv show.  THEN, she came forward.  She had gotten a ride from the truck stop with a trucker and gone to the west coast.  She just didn’t feel compelled to let her family know she was well.  Odd family dynamics no doubt.  Odd case.  Not the normal outcome.  

I think this was on “Disappeared” - it rings a bell with me. 

[SunnyBeBe]

7 hours ago, Tabbygirl521 said:

I think this was on “Disappeared” - it rings a bell with me. 

You might be right.  It’s been years ago I think.  Most troubled women who are last seen leaving a truck stop with a stranger don’t end up well.  So, this was a shocker.  

[Vermicious Knid]

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I kept thinking, "Man, he has crazy eyes." Creepy crazy eyes. 

Which is why the term 'Manson lamps' exists :).

[SunnyBeBe]

Did any of you read the story about the recently deceased Angela Lansbury?  I was shocked?  Her teen daughter was involved with Charles Manson and drugs back in the day.  She knew the guy was bad news, so she packed up the family and moved to Ireland.  Just in time.  That would make a great special or movie.  

[Razzberry]

John Waters says he ran into Angela Lansbury at the Hellfire Sex club once.  These would all make good episodes of Murder She Wrote. lol

https://pagesix.com/2022/10/18/director-john-waters-saw-angela-lansbury-at-a-sex-club/

[Razzberry]

Who The Bleep Did I Marry?  last night...  maybe I'm biased or old fashioned, but whenever I hear the guy is going to be "Mr. Stay at Home Mom"  while she supports him, it never ends well.  

Seems like it took her a long time to catch on.  He was having pool parties with young boys, spent all his time texting, and never wanted to have sex with her.

[Annber03]

I can't get over how brazen and stupid he was. He used his own name when talking to the boys, he sent e-mails/photos/texts with zero attempt to conceal his tracks, and he even actually said to one boy something to the effect of, "I can trust you, right? You're not a secret undercover cop or anything." 

Like, if you're at the point in your criminal scheme where you actually have to ask/say things like that to the person you're speaking with, one should think that should be THE final red flag/warning bell, out of the many that should've been going off well before then, that maybe you should, I dunno, STOP WHAT YOU'RE DOING? 

And then the way his wife described his eerie calm when he explained the visit from the feds. "There may be a few texts and conversations that were inappropriate." That's underselling it quite a bit, yeah. 

It's always good to see creeps like this get caught as it is, even more so when they're so incredibly inept at hiding their crimes. Almost like he was begging to be caught. I'm glad that one boy managed to keep all the texts and e-mails he'd received, and was brave enough to come forward with them.

[LuvMyShows]

Bizarre Murders showed an attempted murder I've seen many times before.  It's the one where the woman tied up her husband and pretended to play a blindfolded sex game, but actually stabbed him, then fake dialed 9-1-1 when he asked her to call, finally drove him to the hospital very slowly, and tried to stab him more when they arrived at the hospital. But that's not the stuff I want to comment on.  No, what I want to comment on, is that the husband would agree to leave the house for hours or days at a time, supposedly because the wife had a man-hating sister, and the wife needed him not to be there for her visits.  Of course, there was no sister...it was for the wife's lover (who didn't even know she was married!).  I'll be g-d damned if I'm going to allow my spouse to repeatedly show me exactly how much of a second-class citizen he/she thinks I am, to repeatedly leave my own house to accommodate the preferences of their wacko relative.  F'ing meet the sister somewhere at your own inconvenience, you beeyotch.  

[Vermicious Knid]

ID has now picked up episodes of Forensic Files II. I caught a new show there called Love You to Death on Saturday. This was episode 4, but I may not bother watching again because I was really annoyed by the pacing. A man was shot outside his house and investigators find out he had two girlfriends. Of course they were the primary suspects, so they are interviewing and running down leads...that go nowhere. Most of the episode was them finding out the women had alibis and no proof they were involved. Another source finally comes forward to say her former boyfriend, who was also the ex-boyfriend of one of the women, called her suddenly and came to her house the night of the murder saying he shot someone. In the last 5 minutes of the episode. Rushed through the evidence, the trial and the conviction after wasting so much time and even repeating the same information that wasn't important. Quite annoying.

[andromeda331]

Watching an episode of Body in the Backyard where an elderly woman goes missing in Florida. Her son gets a letter or email of a wedding invitation and told she's on her honeymoon. Her son knows nothing about this or the man listed as the husband. He calls the police. They search for her but can't find her. They do find a body in a barrel but it turns out to be an elderly man who went missing but his son got a cellphone returned from his father and a message to never contact him again. The cops keep investigating both and they find out the elderly man's caretaker is also the elderly woman's neighbor. So they go back to where they found the body and find the elderly woman's body. The coroner for both cases says she can't determine a cause of death because both bodies were to badly decomposed and they don't know when both went missing. The cops/ADA say they can't charge the woman with murder because of that.

I'm sorry what? They have the woman who was the elderly woman's neighbor who gave the woman's house to her son and daughter-in-law, she sold a lot of the woman's property and cars.For the elderly man she was his caretaker. She sold his stuff and gave his car to her son. What about sending the phone back and the note? 

Oh, and the wedding invitation for the elderly woman? The murderer was living with him as his current caretaker. He had no idea about the invitation or clearly she was going to kill him sometime soon. 

How is that not enough to convict the woman, her son and daughter-in-law for murder? There's more then enough evidence to convict. 

[LuvMyShows]

What was up with the most recent An Unexpected Killer episode "When the Lights Go Out"?  I've come to appreciate that it will in fact be someone unexpected, so it keeps me guessing.  But this time it was the estranged husband.  Yeah, so very unexpected.  I guess technically it qualified as "unexpected" because he hired someone to actually commit the murder, but still, he did it.

[SunnyBeBe]

The show Devil In The Web- Revenge Porn on ID was pretty good, but there was something sort of odd about it.  The story is about Chrissy Chambers, who brought the first lawsuit against her ex boyfriend in the UK for revenge porn that had destroyed her life.  She regained copyrights to the videos, an apology and an undisclosed cash settlement.  The show explained the revenge porn, that she wasn’t aware of being filmed , caused her severe emotional distress.  What seemed odd is that her new lover/girlfriend seemed to be kissing her, caressing her, gazing in her eyes, etc, in every public event or online appearance.  Really odd.  Even when Chrissy announced the lawsuit win, which she was trying to do as a trailblazer for others, she proposed to her girlfriend!  So inappropriate.  Was she trying to get back at her boyfriend?  Was she still being exploited, except by another person?  Rather cringeworthy.  I hope she’s ok.  

[auntjess]

On 10/24/2022 at 2:24 AM, Vermicious Knid said:

ID has now picked up episodes of Forensic Files II. I caught a new show there called Love You to Death on Saturday. This was episode 4, but I may not bother watching again because I was really annoyed by the pacing.

Pacing is why I love ATL Homicide on TV1.  Quinn and Vinnie keep it moving all the time.

[Minivanessa]

On 10/23/2022 at 10:09 AM, Razzberry said:

Who The Bleep Did I Marry?  last night...  maybe I'm biased or old fashioned, but whenever I hear the guy is going to be "Mr. Stay at Home Mom"  while she supports him, it never ends well.  

Seems like it took her a long time to catch on.  He was having pool parties with young boys, spent all his time texting, and never wanted to have sex with her.

I got around to watching that one on DVR this week. I agree, she was deep in denial for quite awhile, and IIRC she essentially admitted that in her THs. In the final scenes where she was outdoors with her dogs, I thought "that looks like Colorado" so I looked her up. I was right. She has said publicly that she now lives in Colorado, has written a book, and has her own media company, so I assume it's okay to share that here. 

I was interested enough to read her memoir, which was pretty good. In the book she is explicit about her failure to ask questions and find out what he was really up to. She admits that she was so emotionally invested in having her good marriage and great kids and strong family, etc., that she just couldn't bring herself to confront him. IMO she kept telling herself how important it is to love and trust your spouse - instead of admitting to herself that asking those questions was scary because it could open up cracks in the foundation of her life (or reveal them). 

I think he was, as @Annber03 said, inept at hiding his texting and other grooming, soliciting, and worse activities from discovery by law enforcement. But OTOH I think he was quite skilled at keeping his cover within his family. For example, he fobbed off his wife's questions about his constant use of his iPhone as "just checking scores," and he was such a lifetime sports nut that she could believe it. BTW her book's title is "Just Checking Scores." She obviously understands irony.

He was first charged with serving alcohol to minors about 2008, and she details in the book how she stood by him at that time. It was a misdemeanor but put a halt to his career in education and was dragged all over the news. She did more. In the book she relates that she became fixated with anger against the 17 year old guy who (IIRC with his parents) had ratted out her husband about the booze, and blamed him and power-hungry DAs for going after her husband. She got obsessed about it. A few years later (but before she saw the light after her husband's 2012 arrest), the then-adult young man had a car wreck and was charged with DUI, and although nobody was killed she wanted to drag it all over the news as retribution. But her boss slapped her down and made her see that would be going too far. (She was the well-established producer and anchor of a major local TV station's 6pm news show.)

I think they didn't go into details in the episode, but while her husband was devoting so much time and money to his pursuit of minor males, he was also taking serious amounts of money out of her retirement accounts without telling her. After he was charged with federal felonies and jailed in 2012, he was a jerk about the divorce. A lot of ugly stuff had been going on for years, under a well-crafted smooth nice guy exterior. Urgh. He's in federal prison until 2025. His daughters legally changed their last name and have had no contact with him for several years. 

Edited October 29, 2022 by Jeeves

[Razzberry]

Thanks for that, Jeeves.  Wow, she was really in denial to blame his victim who had very bravely reported the husband. I wish the show had gone into that, and more about the money drain.  I suspect this was his plan all along - find a trusting woman with a high paying job and sweep her off her feet.

[Minivanessa]

5 hours ago, Razzberry said:

Thanks for that, Jeeves.  Wow, she was really in denial to blame his victim who had very bravely reported the husband. I wish the show had gone into that, and more about the money drain.  I suspect this was his plan all along - find a trusting woman with a high paying job and sweep her off her feet.

You're welcome. Sharing some info here makes me feel less guilt about the time I spent reading the book, lol.

About her reaction of anger at the kid and DA over the serving alcohol to minors charge, I think much of it was displaced anger.* Marisa's world had been rocked by the case, and she funneled that emotional energy against those she perceived as "the enemy" who'd targeted her husband. Instead of asking him the hard questions about his behavior. She made clear in the book that she is *not* proud of having acted that way.  

*Disclosure: I have absolutely no education or training in psychology beyond my Google skilz. Just saying. 😉

ETA to add: The episode mentioned that the second - and serious - criminal case against Marisa's husband - the federal felonies - resulted from an investigation that really took off when an underaged teen and his parents came to the DA or the cops because the husband was sending the kid very inappropriate texts. That's not the kid that Marisa was so angry about, just to be clear. When the felony charges hit, she had to face reality. The kid she'd held a grudge against (along with his parents and the DA) was a witness against her husband in the first, misdemeanor, case. IMO it was commendable that both kids didn't back off as witnesses. 

Edited October 30, 2022 by Jeeves

[LexieLily]

New season of American Monster starts tonight on ID. 

[Annber03]

3 hours ago, LexieLily said:

New season of American Monster starts tonight on ID. 

Ugh, tonight's episode was so maddening. I want to play this one for all the people who keep insisting, "Why don't these women just report this abuse right away?"

Amber: *Reports abuse*

Police: "Well, there's not a lot we can do, it's a you said/he said situation."

Amber: *Reports abuse again, begs police to take him to jail*

Police: *Nobody's going to jail tonight, we just need to know what happened."

Amber: *Winds up dead*

Police: *Surprised Pikachu face* 

And the worst part is that THERE WAS VIDEO EVIDENCE TO BACK UP AMBER'S CLAIMS. Her daughter was recording these fights! And yet apparently they still took the guy's word over hers and did nothing until it was too late. 

Great job, police, really on top of things here, ain't ya? Good lord. 

[SunnyBeBe]

Great news!  A man has been arrested for the murders of the two young girls in Delphi!  I thought it might remain unsolved.  I wonder what happened.  They say the 50 year old man worked at a pharmacy.  
The case was featured on this special.  The link below it is about the arrest.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt14198526/

https://abc11.com/delphi-murders-libby-german-abby-williams-press-conference-monday/12401359/

[SunnyBeBe]

I wonder if they found the Delphi defendant through DNA online genetic tracing…like they did Golden State Killer.  

[LexieLily]

If anyone watches the show Bizarre Murders on True Crime Network (formerly Justice Network), there is a marathon on all day. 

[Razzberry]

2 hours ago, SunnyBeBe said:

I wonder if they found the Delphi defendant through DNA online genetic tracing…like they did Golden State Killer.  

I don't know, but HLN is running "Down the Hill: The Delphi Murders" starting today at 5:00 pm (Pacific), followed by a Special Report at 7:00 pm.

[SunnyBeBe]

4 minutes ago, Razzberry said:

I don't know, but HLN is running "Down the Hill: The Delphi Murders" starting today at 5:00 pm (Pacific), followed by a Special Report at 7:00 pm.

Thanks!  I’ll try to catch it.  

[Minivanessa]

5 hours ago, LexieLily said:

If anyone watches the show Bizarre Murders on True Crime Network (formerly Justice Network), there is a marathon on all day. 

Thanks. I've been tuned into it for an hour or so. I'm in the mood to enjoy their cheesy "dramatizations" and the snarky THs by the retired FBI agent. They take huge liberties with the stories but I sometimes can recognize the case on which an episode is based. The Larry McNabney murder was in this afternoon's lineup, with names and I think locations changed. 

[LexieLily]

1 hour ago, Jeeves said:

Thanks. I've been tuned into it for an hour or so. I'm in the mood to enjoy their cheesy "dramatizations" and the snarky THs by the retired FBI agent. They take huge liberties with the stories but I sometimes can recognize the case on which an episode is based. The Larry McNabney murder was in this afternoon's lineup, with names and I think locations changed. 

The retired FBI agent and his snark reminds me a little bit of Joe Kenda. (But Kenda is better!)

[Razzberry]

New episodes of Disappeared and In Pursuit with John Walsh on ID tonight.  As we know, this doesn't necessarily mean new cases.

[SunnyBeBe]

7 hours ago, Razzberry said:

New episodes of Disappeared and In Pursuit with John Walsh on ID tonight.  As we know, this doesn't necessarily mean new cases.

Oh….might have known.  I didn’t bring my Firestick with me.  I’ll check it out this weekend.   

[Razzberry]

Surprise, they were new to me.  Another pregnicide on In Pursuit, and the wife of a deadbeat non-working dad Disappears without a trace.

[SunnyBeBe]

There are so many stories of women who hook up with abusers, often with violent criminal backgrounds, and then disappear or are found murdered.  It’s so frustrating,  Especially, when they have young children who are exposed and placed at risk.  I guess they believe it’ll be different with them.  

[Minivanessa]

10 hours ago, Razzberry said:

Surprise, they were new to me.  Another pregnicide on In Pursuit, and the wife of a deadbeat non-working dad Disappears without a trace.

Last night I watched Disappeared, but gave In Pursuit a pass. Just for the record, I do not believe that young woman walked away from home in the middle of a winter night (20 degrees F IIRC), without her phone or keys or purse or dog(?)* or BABY, and her husband has no idea where she might be. 

It's so fecking horrible, and I hope they find her then and hammer his *ss into jail for the rest of his life. 

*I do have a question. I missed part of the episode where they were talking about the dog. Is the dog also missing? There was something about its microchip being read in Kentucky . . . 

Edited November 3, 2022 by Jeeves

[SunnyBeBe]

4 hours ago, Jeeves said:

Last night I watched Disappeared, but gave In Pursuit a pass. Just for the record, I do not believe that young woman walked away from home in the middle of a winter night (20 degrees F IIRC), without her phone or keys or purse or dog(?)* or BABY, and her husband has no idea where she might be. 

It's so fecking horrible, and I hope they find her then and hammer his *ss into jail for the rest of his life. 

*I do have a question. I missed part of the episode where they were talking about the dog. Is the dog also missing? There was something about its microchip being read in Kentucky . . . 

I left my Firestick, so can’t catch it until this weekend.  I don’t like watching it on my iPad.  It looks like there are 2 new episodes.  

[Minivanessa]

9 hours ago, SunnyBeBe said:

I left my Firestick, so can’t catch it until this weekend.  I don’t like watching it on my iPad.  It looks like there are 2 new episodes.  

Oh, I'll have to check. I just saw one of the episodes, as is probably obvious from my post. I'll look for the other one; I'm sure they'll repeat it pretty soon.

[Razzberry]

On 11/3/2022 at 6:51 AM, Jeeves said:

*I do have a question. I missed part of the episode where they were talking about the dog. Is the dog also missing? There was something about its microchip being read in Kentucky . . .

I think the dog is still with the husband, but not sure.  They mentioned seeing the dog in the car but no wife.  Tying up the end seemed a bit rushed to me.

[SunnyBeBe]

Ref. Disappearance of Ciera, the young attorney Wife/mother who disappeared.  I’m not sure why the family says they should have seen the signs. They did see the signs and begged her to leave the man.  They had no way to get her to safety.  She insisted on staying with the man.  A victim is never to blame, however as an attorney she had no excuse to remain in that relationship.  She knew about domestic violence laws, evidence and orders of protection for her and the baby.  Her stubbornness to remain with him boggles the mind.  Her justification for staying sounds like something from the 1950’s not 2022.  She chose to remain with an abuser placing her child in danger.  It’s very sad.  There is an update on the charges against the husband for the stalking of his ex wife.  
 

Spoiler

He was found not guilty.  

I wonder who supports the husband and the child.  I wonder if there was any life insurance.  

[LuvMyShows]

Maybe I'm the last to know, but just found out that Dateline host Keith Morrison is Friends star Matthew Perry's stepfather!

[andromeda331]

13 hours ago, LuvMyShows said:

Maybe I'm the last to know, but just found out that Dateline host Keith Morrison is Friends star Matthew Perry's stepfather!

What? Are you serious?

[Angeltoes]

Yes, he is:  https://www.today.com/popculture/nbc-s-keith-morrison-opens-about-being-matthew-perry-s-t116469