S02.E06: Moving In

[Tara Ariano]

Tensions rise when the newlyweds are faced with making sacrifices as they decide where to live.

[Bella]

I can't see this going well for any of the three couples.

[JAndy]

I'm holding out hope for at least one couple. It would be pretty bad if they all crash and burn.

[Hairgirl42]

I really feel like Davina is so selfish. I feel like she expects him to absorb the greatest change and act like it doesn't bother him.

. I think Ryan and Jacqueline have a great chance.

I really feel like Davina is so selfish. I feel like she expects him to absorb the greatest change and act like it doesn't bother him.

Edited April 22, 2015 by Hairgirl42

[humbleopinion]

Manhattan for her royal highness and her minion.

Astoria for Jacklyn and Ryan. 2K/month with parking

Brooklyn for Jessica and Ryan.  3.2K/month and spacious. Their landlord is a giant, he barely cleared the door frame.

 

Ryan, shut up about leaving your mommy.

I do like that they are happy about living together.

Edited April 22, 2015 by humbleopinion

[nlkm9]

OMG Davina is sooooo unpleasant--I dont think anything or anyone can please her.....she looks perpetually angry. I was so charmed by her the first night.

Do you guys think the show is helping them pay these crazy rents? What does Jessicas Ryan do that he lives such a "comfortable lifestyle"?

[JAndy]

Davina is so annoying. She talks about compromise, but what is she compromising? Didn't she say she refused to compromise on location?

I didn't like how Jessica's Ryan took the whole closet? I have like 3/4 of the closet my husband and I share. But she definitely needs to speak up.

Ryan and Jaclyn are cute

[butterly17]

Sean is super closed off... he says the right things, but then he's out the door.  Davina isn't being realistic about her expectations of him at this point, however.  It's not like you are a couple 'in love'.  He shouldn't have to put his feelings aside to kiss her ass.  He seemed to be very nervous and uncomfortable,  but he wasn't unpleasant or mean to her.

 

Unlike bully Ryan D.  If he doesn't get his way, he gets Yelly.

Edited April 22, 2015 by butterly17

[Adeejay]

After the weddings, if I were a betting woman, I would have put good money on Sean and Davina as the only couple that would last.   Now, I don't believe they are even going to make it to six weeks.  Davina keeps saying that Sean should get out of his own way, but I think she should get out of her own head. 

[absolutelyido]

Davina is so annoying. She talks about compromise, but what is she compromising? Didn't she say she refused to compromise on location?

 

Yes, she did. Having to leave Manhattan was a deal breaker for her. Not just NYC but I believe she said specifically Manhattan. I can understand Sean being a little shell shocked moving from his spacious suburban townhouse to a tiny apartment in the city at a significantly higher cost. Maybe Davina could give him some space and help him acclimate a bit. But, no, his anxiety is causing him not to be able to meet her needs for affection, so he'd just better get over it.

 

Davina said that she thought Sean withdrawing was due to something more than just the adjustment to moving. Yeah, honey, that "something more" is that you're a pain in the ass. She's quickly become my least favorite person.

 

Not to go off topic, but I'd like to ask everyone's advice. I know these two people who I think would be great together. She hates conflict and arguing so will not speak up when she is unhappy. He's short tempered, so disagreements with him escalate to yelling and anger pretty quickly. What do you think, should I match them up? They sound perfect for each other, right? Just like Jessica and Ryan D are perfect for each other!

Edited April 22, 2015 by absolutelyido

[ElectricCityy]

Davina is very unreasonable. I think Sean would've felt a lot better if he weren't the only one making sacrifices. Then she gets pissy because he has to work? I would have bounced for 2 days too. This woman is too much.

 

Did Ryan D. really get pissy at Jessica for laughing about something during their little closet debacle? He is such an ass. 

[butterly17]

It was so bizarre how Ryan D kept repeating over and over 'you want the dresser, take it, it's okay.. you already took it.'  Huh?  It's like he had created a situation where he was doing her a favor by pretending she wanted the dresser all to herself, so he deserved the closet all to himself.

[Dr. Reality Dr]

I hate everything about Ryan D. His face, eyebrows, voice, the hat he wore, the velvet track suit, and that bossy, steamrolling personality. He is a total toolshed. Jessica is gonna flip soon. I can sense it's coming. They won't make it to the end of the experiment. Davina and Sean probably analyze bowel movements and how they feel about it. They don't talk like normal people. I hate her and he's a prick. Ryan R is growing on me

[CindyBee]

After the weddings, if I were a betting woman, I would have put good money on Sean and Davina as the only couple that would last.   Now, I don't believe they are even going to make it to six weeks.  Davina keeps saying that Sean should get out of his own way, but I think she should get out of her own head. 

 

Yeah I don't even think Vaughn and Monet imploded as quickly as Sean & Davina have.   And I don't know how they are going to make it to the end of the six weeks.

 

Happy that Jaclyn & Ryan were able to find a half way point to start living together in Queens.  And hopefully Ryan is truly all in and not pining for life with his mom and Kayla.  Time will tell if he can truly start a new life with Jaclyn.

[Jack Sampson]

I can imagine Davina calling the show's producers claiming they're "making her look bad".  Not only is she radically unpleasant, but she's incapable of accepting any responsibility for it.  She acts like a bratty supermodel or actress - except, without the looks or income.

[Snarklepuss]

Agreed about Davina.  She is one of those women that has too high expectations and is impossible to please.  She's making Sean feel inadequate in just about every way.  She's pretty much made it obvious to him that he's not what she asked for - She wanted a guy who wants to live in Manhattan.  She wanted a guy who is "secure" financially (which translates in her mind to 'has as much money or more than I do').  She wanted a guy to fall instantly in love with her and the romance would just flow (despite the fact that she does just about everything to prevent that from happening).  I mean, how can there be romance when you're always stuck inside your head and rationalizing everything to death?  I suppose if he were kissing her ass enough she might STFU enough for it to happen.  Perhaps she's just realized that he's really not ready for a committed relationship and this is the way she's reacting to that.  But I don't think she is either.  She wants it all her way.  I don't blame Sean for leaving that first night.  She's like, "let's compromise, let's do it MY way" and when he goes home she acts like it's his fault.  Well maybe if they really compromised he wouldn't have done that!

[Dr. Reality Dr]

Davina is a spoiled brat

[Gigi43]

Sean brought up he makes less than Davina before they started looking. She's bringing him to an expensive area that's very different from what he's used to. Davina made every aspect of this about her. In past episodes Sean seemed ready for sex, yet he had the chance and left, I wonder if he's getting physically turned off by her. Sex shoulder be mutual always. Because Davina may finally be ready doesn't mean they should the second she decides.

What does Ryan D do for a living exactly? Jessica was offering to food shop and cook she wasn't saying he needs to do that now, I don't get why he made an issue out of it.

Jaclyn and Ryan were cute the whole episode. Good for them agreeing to both go half way out of their areas. Also Jaclyn's nephew should make another appearance! His facial expressions were adorable.

[belladonna77]

I get the feeling that Sean is using the "seduction game" on Davina.  He's negging her.  He bounces for a couple of days and then he'll come back and she'll be all over him.  I don't think he gets the fact that this is pissing her off rather than drawing her in.  

[Dr. Reality Dr]

I'd need a bottle of whisky and shots of tequila to hang out with Davina. I don't blame him for leaving. She's exhausting

[Amelie06]

I can't decide if Jessica and Ryan are an episode of Snapped or a Lifetime movie waiting to happen.  Ryan is such a dick. He is too immature and mean to be with anyone right now. He is one of those people who always arrange things in their minds so that they are the victims/heroes and are never wrong. That being said, Jessica's quiet resentment isn't helping anyone. She seems to be developing a true dislike for her husband.

 

Davina is annoying. She is very needy. I will say that I can't entirely fault her for insisting on staying in Manhattan. Apparently all she wanted was a white guy who could live in Manhattan. There must be a ton of guys that fit that description. How did the "experts" find the one guy who would basically have a panic attack about Manhattan? I thought Sean was acting like a whiny bitch. He was acting like he was being forced to move to the Sudan. Last time I checked New Jeresey wasn't exactly Valhalla, so all his "in New Jersey" musings were just lame. Sean has the demeanor of an un-apprehended serial killer, with his genial face to the world hiding a lot of intensity and darkness. I bet if you looked straight in his eyes you would still see a disguise.

 

I got other Ryan's reluctance to leaving home. His mother is elderly and has been through a lot. He is now leaving her to do most of the work in bringing up his niece. That would cause anyone with a heart to feel conflicted. Not everyone can/wants to leave their family as soon as they hit adulthood. I don't think he should be made fun of or judged because of that.

 

Jaclyn sounds like a woman desperately trying to talk herself into loving her husband. Maybe she actually feels the way she claims. I'm not convinced. She may just be getting caught up in the experiment.

[Jack Sampson]

I get the feeling that Sean is using the "seduction game" on Davina.  He's negging her.  He bounces for a couple of days and then he'll come back and she'll be all over him.  I don't think he gets the fact that this is pissing her off rather than drawing her in.  

He knows it - pissing her off is part of it.  It's not a recipe for a healthy marriage, but it's not difficult to get women like her into bed.  Relationships and marriages are nearly impossible, but she's not striking me as being worth the effort.

[Dr. Reality Dr]

Jessica and Ryan D on the next episode of Wives with knives

[belladonna77]

He knows it - pissing her off is part of it.  It's not a recipe for a healthy marriage, but it's not difficult to get women like her into bed.  Relationships and marriages are nearly impossible, but she's not striking me as being worth the effort.

Yeah, I can see that.  It is part of the game he's playing.  Davina is very high maintenance, but I can't help feeling sorry for her.  She probably feels like she's married and she should have to be looking out for being gamed.  It makes me believe what that person who worked with him said about his personality and character.

[Dr. Reality Dr]

Sean is so not ready for marriage

[B3cky50]

Sean and Davina are the worst. Every time Sean says "quite frankly" I'm going to do a shot.

I have a strong feeling that one of them will end up chopping up the other one and hiding the body in the freezer.

Jacqueline and Ryan are adorable. No criticism there. Jacqueline is so cute. Ryan saying, "Oh no, I've created a monster." -- too funny.

Jess and Ryan. I dont even know. They stress me out. The editing for their scenes especially is awful. The way they splice the voiceovers during their scenes is bizarre. Jess had a line that went something like, "Finding a place is. Going to be kind of. It is hard to FIND one. That I can. AFFORD."

He seems like he's trying so hard in this episode but she just COMPLAINS. Her bitch face is on all the time. He's a ticking time bomb though, and next week's fight looks scary.

Oh and I did not understand their dresser/closet fight. It was so ridiculous and didnt they say that apartment had two closets?

Edited because apparently it's Sean not Shawn, which is another thing that annoys me about him now.

Edited April 22, 2015 by B3cky50

[Snarklepuss]

Davina is annoying. She is very needy. I will say that I can't entirely fault her for insisting on staying in Manhattan. Apparently all she wanted was a white guy who could live in Manhattan. There must be a ton of guys that fit that description. How did the "experts" find the one guy who would basically have a panic attack about Manhattan? I thought Sean was acting like a whiny bitch. He was acting like he was being forced to move to the Sudan. Last time I checked New Jeresey wasn't exactly Valhalla, so all his "in New Jersey" musings were just lame. Sean has the demeanor of an un-apprehended serial killer, with his genial face to the world hiding a lot of intensity and darkness. I bet if you looked straight in his eyes you would still see a disguise.

 

Davina was in the process of moving to another apartment in Manhattan when this started so it's like she was assuming during this process that they'd match her with someone who either lived there or wanted to live there.  I understand the Manhattan myopia of people who can't imagine why anyone wouldn't want to live there.  I'm a native of the place who moved to the 'burbs 20 years ago.  I am over that myopia myself but see it in people like Davina.  I don't know how the "experts" could not have seen this problem coming a mile away with the two of them.  Maybe they thought Sean would cave in and give up his career to live with her in Manhattan - But if they really knew him like they claimed they did they would have known that wasn't likely to happen.  I don't even think that if he was crazy about her he would do that.  The experts should have known that combining someone who was entrenched in Manhattan with someone who lived in Central Jersey was a recipe for problems.  It's not just a culture shock issue but also a feasibility issue - Like where do you park your car on a regular basis?  How long does it take to get to anywhere you can work?  Plus the rents in NYC are insanely high these days.  Sean may make a lot of money by Central Jersey standards but put him in Manhattan and that alone will take a few inches off his dick.  Seriously.   I am so with him on going back to his job in NJ.  Forgive me for saying this, but this is how guys have traditionally reacted to that kind of expectation from a woman.  Women have traditionally been the ones to (like Jessica) keep their mouths shut and let the guy have his way while men get into their cars and go back home.

[ChristmasJones]

I can't stand either of these two, and I think they are starting to feel the same about each other.

 

The people who matched them are complete idiots. Putting two people together because they were both abused as children?? I'm not from the East Coast, but even I can tell that the geography issue is huge - Sean not only doesn't want to be in NYC, he seems strongly attached to the area he does live in.

Edited April 22, 2015 by ChristmasJones

[ElectricCityy]

Jaclyn sounds like a woman desperately trying to talk herself into loving her husband. Maybe she actually feels the way she claims. I'm not convinced. She may just be getting caught up in the experiment.

I'm not either but maybe because her initial reaction to him was so raw and real this sudden change of heart feels disingenuous. It's almost like she is singing his praises too much (though I do think he is a good guy, especially in comparison to the other two).

[girlplease]

I didn't love Davina's behavior in this episode, but the thing is, Sean told the experts he'd be okay with relocating. Time to put up or shut up, Sean.

I wasn't too bothered by Ryan and Jessica for once, but they hardly even look at each other. It's kind of sad.

I'm worried that Jaclyn is more into Ryan than he's into her.

[JaneVM]

I am really curious, how much would Jessica likely make as a law firm receptionist?  Because these rents to a non-New Yorker are outrageous!

[Snarklepuss]

I didn't love Davina's behavior in this episode, but the thing is, Sean told the experts he'd be okay with relocating. Time to put up or shut up, Sean.

 

I might agree with you but I don't think he bargained for a place like Manhattan.  Manhattan is unique and uniquely intimidating to anyone who is not really up for living there, especially these days.  I was born there and lived in NYC for the first 33 years of my life.  I visit often but I have not lived there in over 20 years and can sympathize at this point with Sean's reluctance.  Manhattan is just too over the top in just about every way for someone who is not at all up to living there, so I'm giving him a break on this.  The fact that Davina is just expecting him to love the idea is bothering me much more.  She acts like she understands how he feels, but she still wants what she wants anyway.

I am really curious, how much would Jessica likely make as a law firm receptionist?  Because these rents to a non-New Yorker are outrageous!

 

Nowhere near enough to afford an average (or even below average) apartment in New York these days.  She would need a roommate and live in a borough (not Manhattan unless we're talking upper Manhattan).  Rents in NYC these days have been escalating out of control and are out of reach of most people these days - Even doctors and lawyers!   That said, I have seen listings that were under what these couples were looking at so I'm not so sure they really shopped around for the best price.

[girlplease]

I also thought it was odd that he'd never spent more than a few hours there despite living in Jersey. I can respect if it's not for him, but he should have said so up front if it was a dealbreaker for him.

Edited April 22, 2015 by girlplease

[zxy556575]

Davina is annoying. She is very needy. I will say that I can't entirely fault her for insisting on staying in Manhattan. Apparently all she wanted was a white guy who could live in Manhattan. There must be a ton of guys that fit that description. How did the "experts" find the one guy who would basically have a panic attack about Manhattan? I thought Sean was acting like a whiny bitch. He was acting like he was being forced to move to the Sudan.

 

I know, right? Davina makes me tired but if she specifically said Manhattan was her deal-breaker, I can't fault her for standing her literal ground. I can also understand someone not wanting to live there, but Sean was practically whimpering.

 

Maybe we discussed this before and I spaced out, but the talk of finances tonight made me wonder if all the couples sign prenups. I wouldn't imagine any court would award spousal support, but I wouldn't want to chance it.

 

Was the cameraman using a damned fish-eye lens or something? The hallway corridors on the apts Davina/Sean looked at were so narrow! Made me squidgy watching them walk through.

[butterbean1]

Sean and Davina are the worst. Every time Sean says "quite frankly" I'm going to do a shot.

I have a strong feeling that one of them will end up chopping up the other one and hiding the body in the freezer.

Jacqueline and Ryan are adorable. No criticism there. Jacqueline is so cute. Ryan saying, "Oh no, I've created a monster." -- too funny.

Jess and Ryan. I dont even know. They stress me out. The editing for their scenes especially is awful. The way they splice the voiceovers during their scenes is bizarre. Jess had a line that went something like, "Finding a place is. Going to be kind of. It is hard to FIND one. That I can. AFFORD."

He seems like he's trying so hard in this episode but she just COMPLAINS. Her bitch face is on all the time. He's a ticking time bomb though, and next week's fight looks scary.

Oh and I did not understand their dresser/closet fight. It was so ridiculous and didnt they say that apartment had two closets?

Edited because apparently it's Sean not Shawn, which is another thing that annoys me about him now.

I agree with you about Ryan and Jess.  I thought he was really making an effort this episode and seemed to really be trying to make it work.  I didn't think he was an ass at all and if Jess has a problem with him taking all the closet, she should have said something.  He can't read her mind.  I think Ryan is the standoffish type and not the overly affectionate type, especially with cameras in front of him.  He seemed to be looking in the direction of the camera (back and forth) when he was speaking.  I don't think he is comfortable with them there.

 

Ryan and Jac are still my favorite and I enjoy watching their love story unfold.  I hope they don't try to shoehorn some manufactured drama just for the show.

 

Davina - UGH!  She is still so exhausting.  Sean gives me the heebie jeebies but she just grates on my nerves.  I understand she told the producers that NYC was a dealbreaker for her and why she wouldn't compromise on that (I don't think she should have to since she told them up front).  And Sean told them he was open to moving.  If he owned a home, likes the burbs and works in NJ, why would he tell them he would be open to moving?  And now he isn't?  But still, Davina should be more understanding about his resistance.  And the over analyzing these two do is just tiresome. 

[Snarklepuss]

I think it isn't only the process itself or Manhattan that's overwhelming Sean but Davina herself.  She is so demanding and full of herself I can't imagine most guys wouldn't react the same way.  Granted Sean himself has issues but Davina's are just the opposite of what he would need to feel comfortable in the situation.  She is acting like she wants to be married, goddammit, but he is not going to give her what she wants.  What she said to him about income so obviously showed him that she's already convinced that he will resent her so she's not even going to give him a chance.  She already has an apartment she wants him to live in.  Never mind what he might have wanted.  Nothing about this is what Sean wants.  She is unwilling to give in.  I can understand that it might not be 100% her fault if she told the experts that Manhattan was a deal breaker.  Even if Sean was amenable to that in theory, seeing how it's playing itself out is completely intimidating and with good reason.  If he were with someone like Jessica shopping for an apartment in NY would have been more of a compromise and less intimidating (in fact at this point I can see him matched with her better than Davina).  Sean is the one who would have to do all the compromising with Davina.  And I suspect she is like that about everything.

[Wings]

 

Sean may make a lot of money by Central Jersey standards but put him in Manhattan and that alone will take a few inches off his dick.

 

Good one Snarkle! 

 

I would like to know some specifics on how these people were chosen for each other.  The standard personality tests, and interviews, of course, but beyond that.  How could they have seen Ryan D's temper and his habit of storming out of the room when something doesn't suit him?  The answer is they had no way.  None.  Had they been mildly intuitive, his manner of speech and body language could have raised a flag to prompt some leading questions, I think.  

 

And to place a woman who has a difficult time communicating what she needs (Jessica) with an aggressive man boggles my mind.  I did couples counseling in a workshop setting for years and have seen this dynamic.  It takes a lot of work.  It can be done but the foundation of love has to be there.  Falling in love under these circumstance would be very difficult.  If they both get the proper guidance on conflict 101 immediately, it might work but for how long, I don't know.

 

I doubt this show is deluged with applicants so the pool to choose from must be relatively small.  

 

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[Dr. Reality Dr]

Yep davina is spoiled

[Bongo]

Sean needs to grow a pair.  He just moved to Manhattan from central Jersey leaving behind his shorter commute to work, his friends and family, parking and a spacious condo.  Welcome to the Jungle baby!  So she is on HIS case for not being affectionate "right now" or not wanting to stay the night with her "right now".  Jeez.  He has at least an hour commute back to Jackson, NJ and work early in the AM. 

 

After nagging him, he says "so this is what you are saying to me" parroting back "her concerns" to show her he is "listening".  Um, no.  He should have clearly made it known to her the major sacrifices he has made at this point and at least she is the one who needs to be more understaning and affectionate at this point.  She is clearly incapable of empathy.

Edited April 22, 2015 by Bongo

[Wings]

I have a wait and see attitude with Davina.  I don't like Sean and find him a little off in some way.  Davina may be experiencing the same thing.

 

As for her wanting to stay in Manhattan, she probably stated that clearly in her application.  She also said financially secure.   She may have  even stated that she wanted someone with a salary to match or exceed hers, but no one with her income in NYC applied.  They paired her with a man in Jersey who said he would relocate. Not her fault that he really doesn't want to do that.   I feel her frustration and disappointment.  Sean wants to screw her but not put out the effort to woo her.  He leaves her on the first night together in their new apartment.  I tend to be on Davina's side on this one.  

 

Jaclyn and Ryan are cute together and well matched.  I would not be surprised to learn, down the road, that they have his niece live with them (adopt?) and Ryan finds a job in real estate in an area they choose. It is fortunate he has a job he can do anywhere.  Mom doesn't look like she will fair well living alone so she may come along as part of the package, too.  Or someone else will step up to care for her.  I can see a future with them but it is still early.  

[Liberty]

It was as if she justified moving Sean to Manhattan since 'she told the experts it was a deal breaker'.  Not certain that really justifies what she is doing, it will not be the "experts" she divorces.  Saying "I told the experts..." is not a good enough reason to disregard a spouse.

 

Davina wearing aviator sunglasses on the car ride when it is raining outside, give me a break.

 

Do Sean and Ryan R. both drive BMWs?

[SaucyMommy]

Davina has the ability to make absolutely everything about her. Yes, Sean is acting very overwhelmed, and instead of asking him how he's feeling she makes it about how she is feeling. Something I've learned in marriage is there are 2 people with 2 sets of feelings. This feels very much like two individuals that are stuck together. I was reading things about Sean online and I don't doubt he's a playboy. He seems totally uninterested in being fully committed. That said, Davina feels too high maintenance for me to even begin to share a life with someone. It bothered me when she was talking about how much more successful she was than him. She was going on and on about how men resent her. I was single once too. I made a ton of money too. And it was NEVER an issue then and isn't an issue now. Because 1. I don't discuss it 2. my husband and I share all finances 3. I still let him pay for everything so he feels like the chivalrous man providing for his family. Any modern man would not have an issue with a woman making more money now. I've also learned that financial stability is fleeting. Who knows if she will have a child and leave that behind. It's temporary Davina. Stop letting your career define who you are. That's why people don't like you! 

 

Ryan D and Jessica. OMG this woman has absolutely no spine whatsoever and he's a controlling jerk. What the heck was with his velour running suit? Is it 1985? I felt like I was watching a Cyndi Lauper Video with that get up. I detest him as a human. I feel bad for her. But Dr. Logan was right that unless she asserts herself every single man will steam roll their way right over her.

 

Ryan R and Jacklyn. I like them still. But I still hate his accent. She's trying. It does feel a bit forced. But I liked that they compromised. Compromise is key in marriage.

[Wings]

SaucyMommy.  Juicy!  More details on Sean, please! 

[Wings]

It was as if she justified moving Sean to Manhattan since 'she told the experts it was a deal breaker'.  Not certain that really justifies what she is doing, it will not be the "experts" she divorces.  Saying "I told the experts..." is not a good enough reason to disregard a spouse.

 

Davina wearing aviator sunglasses on the car ride when it is raining outside, give me a break.

 

 

Do Sean and Ryan R. both drive BMWs?

 

 

My post was merely MY speculation.  She may not be thinking this at all!   It is early in the game here and I am trying to give everyone the benefit of the doubt.   The stress of this situation brings out their underbellies.  It will be interesting to see this unfold.  We may see an unlikely couple work through the conflict and fall in love.  Stranger things have happened.  

[Nancybeth]

I really thought Sean and Davina were Jason and Courtney 2.0 at the start.  Now I'm pretty sure they're a Vaughn and Monet redux.  The issues on each side are different, but they're going to barely make it through the six weeks and make an easy decision to divorce.  Also, um, I think they're actually living in an IKEA showroom and not a real apartment :)

 

Ryan D. and Jessica are turning into one of those couples where everything becomes a fight, but then they make up and forget it ever happened and exhaust everyone else around them.  Including me.

 

And man, Ryan R. and Jacquelyn (Jacklyn?) are totally winning me over.  I didn't really like either of them at first, but I think they're genuinely trying very hard and compromising and all the things you need to do when you find yourself married to a perfect stranger.   It IS a little forced , but also necessary to make it work, I think. 

[humbleopinion]

Did I imagine the sound of Sean's Bimmer wheels squealing and rubber burning as he peeled the hell out of Manhattan?

The man has checked out.

You could see the black cloud cross his face when Davina declared that she needed to be f'ing courted.

He couldn't eat dinner fast enough.

Apparently anything outside a 2 block radius of Davina's neighborhood was a deal breaker, she probably refused to see any places out of the area.

Sean need to pick up extra shifts to pay for his fancy city apartment and to avoid his wife.

 

As much as Sean is unpleasant, Davina has shown to the world that unless she has complete dominance, she is not pleased.

Drive, Sean, drive.

[Neurochick]

Davina was in the process of moving to another apartment in Manhattan when this started so it's like she was assuming during this process that they'd match her with someone who either lived there or wanted to live there.  I understand the Manhattan myopia of people who can't imagine why anyone wouldn't want to live there.  I'm a native of the place who moved to the 'burbs 20 years ago.  I am over that myopia myself but see it in people like Davina.  I don't know how the "experts" could not have seen this problem coming a mile away with the two of them.  Maybe they thought Sean would cave in and give up his career to live with her in Manhattan - But if they really knew him like they claimed they did they would have known that wasn't likely to happen.  I don't even think that if he was crazy about her he would do that.  The experts should have known that combining someone who was entrenched in Manhattan with someone who lived in Central Jersey was a recipe for problems.  It's not just a culture shock issue but also a feasibility issue - Like where do you park your car on a regular basis?  How long does it take to get to anywhere you can work?  Plus the rents in NYC are insanely high these days.  Sean may make a lot of money by Central Jersey standards but put him in Manhattan and that alone will take a few inches off his dick.  Seriously.   I am so with him on going back to his job in NJ.  Forgive me for saying this, but this is how guys have traditionally reacted to that kind of expectation from a woman.  Women have traditionally been the ones to (like Jessica) keep their mouths shut and let the guy have his way while men get into their cars and go back home.

 

I can understand Davina not wanting to leave Manhattan.  In Manhattan she probably has everything she needs in walking distance.  She might feel, why live someplace where I have to drive  to buy a quart of milk?  Plus cars are expensive and a pain in the ass (gas, inspections, mechanics, etc).  Now in life, things change, lives change and Davina might have grown to love New Jersey, but it would have taken time, can't be done with a sledgehammer.

 

This is why I call bullshit on the show.  In reality, Davina wouldn't be with a man like Sean.  Why couldn't they find a white man who lived in Manhattan for her?  Why create unnecessary conflict?  That's what I'd like to ask the experts.

 

She was going on and on about how men resent her. I was single once too. I made a ton of money too. And it was NEVER an issue then and isn't an issue now. Because 1. I don't discuss it 2. my husband and I share all finances 3. I still let him pay for everything so he feels like the chivalrous man providing for his family. Any modern man would not have an issue with a woman making more money now. I've also learned that financial stability is fleeting. Who knows if she will have a child and leave that behind. It's temporary Davina. Stop letting your career define who you are. That's why people don't like you!

 

 

This is very true.  Let's switch the sexes.  How would Davina feel if Sean made more money than she and kept beating her over the head with it?  We'd all agree he was being abusive and he would be, she's doing the same thing.

 

Jessica needs to grow a spine.  I think she's afraid that if she asserts herself Ryan, and all men will leave her.  

Edited April 22, 2015 by Neurochick

[Wings]

Production pays for the apartment and furnishes it, clearly.  The apt hunt was a set up like all the real estate shows.  Those places were secured long before this started.  They probably had to move all the furniture into the hall to film them looking at it.  

[bichonblitz]

So Davina is a pharmaceutical sales rep, right? Just how much do they earn? I would think Sean, as an ER nurse in NJ would do very well- 6 figures maybe? It's not like the guy is digging ditches for $12 bucks an hour.  Someone from the Triboro area please enlighten me on the income of these positions in that area of the country. 

 

Ryan R. moving from Long Island and Jac moving from New Jersey to Queens! This is culture shock! I don't know if these two kids from the burbs are going to be ok with that situation for long...

[Wings]

I can understand Davina not wanting to leave Manhattan.  In Manhattan she probably has everything she needs in walking distance.  She might feel, why live someplace where I have to drive  to buy a quart of milk?  Plus cars are expensive and a pain in the ass (gas, inspections, mechanics, etc).  Now in life, things change, lives change and Davina might have grown to love New Jersey, but it would have taken time, can't be done with a sledgehammer.

 

This is why I call bullshit on the show.  In reality, Davina wouldn't be with a man like Sean.  Why couldn't they find a white man who lived in Manhattan for her?  Why create unnecessary conflict?  That's what I'd like to ask the experts.

 

Me too.  I think their answer would be that no men from NYC applied!   

So Davina is a pharmaceutical sales rep, right? Just how much do they earn? I would think Sean, as an ER nurse in NJ would do very well- 6 figures maybe? It's not like the guy is digging ditches for $12 bucks an hour.  Someone from the Triboro area please enlighten me on the income of these positions in that area of the country. 

 

Ryan R. moving from Long Island and Jac moving from New Jersey to Queens! This is culture shock! I don't know if these two kids from the burbs are going to be ok with that situation for long...

 

ER nurses do not earn 6 figures!  Just an FYI,  ER doctors are on the bottom of the pay scale for physicians.  

Edited April 22, 2015 by wings707