Sweet Fellowship: Duggars and Friends (aka the Bates Family and Other Featured Families Thread)

[Minivanessa]

22 minutes ago, libgirl2 said:

Yea, but a cruise with people dressing immodestly? Much alcohol going around? 

Passports are a possibility. And you just can't get one in an hour. I have heard stories of people not being able to go  on trips because they didn't get theirs in time, even if they applied early enough. 

There are links upthread to info about the cruise. One of the FAQs said that you can go on the cruise without a passport (although I think alternate ID like a certified birth certificate is required), but without a passport you can enter, but you can't venture beyond, the special ("resort"?) area on land at the destination that cruise passengers can visit when the boat is docked. 

Passports are def a possibility, but probably not the deal breaker. If passports were the only reason, she'd have ranted about it as her being somehow Christianly persecuted for not being able to get one in time or something like that.

Edited November 2, 2023 by Jeeves

[oliviabenson]

5 minutes ago, libgirl2 said:

Yea, but a cruise with people dressing immodestly? Much alcohol going around? 

Passports are a possibility. And you just can't get one in an hour. I have heard stories of people not being able to go  on trips because they didn't get theirs in time, even if they applied early enough. 

Saw this posted elsewhere

" (ii) the confirmed earner and his/her guest must: (a) travel on same itinerary; (b) have all necessary documentation to permit travel and participate in the Prize (including all required COVID-19 documentation (including, without limitation, any required proof of vaccine documentation, proof of valid vaccine exemption documentation, and/or proof of negative COVID-19 test documentation); and..."

https://static.plexusworldwide.com/cdn/sail-ebration-cruise-official-rules-en-ca.pdf

Sooo then it’s about COVID then. Then lack of $. 
 

Either way I’m glad Jill for once didn’t get her way. That vile woman and her lazy husband doesn’t deserve anything nice for the rest of their life. 

[Ohiopirate02]

2 minutes ago, libgirl2 said:

Yea, but a cruise with people dressing immodestly? Much alcohol going around? 

Passports are a possibility. And you just can't get one in an hour. I have heard stories of people not being able to go  on trips because they didn't get theirs in time, even if they applied early enough. 

Saw this posted elsewhere

" (ii) the confirmed earner and his/her guest must: (a) travel on same itinerary; (b) have all necessary documentation to permit travel and participate in the Prize (including all required COVID-19 documentation (including, without limitation, any required proof of vaccine documentation, proof of valid vaccine exemption documentation, and/or proof of negative COVID-19 test documentation); and..."

https://static.plexusworldwide.com/cdn/sail-ebration-cruise-official-rules-en-ca.pdf

A passport is not a requirement on some cruise lines leaving from the US.  Because you leave and return in the US, you do not necessarily need one though a passport is recommended.  And, you can still visit the various foreign ports without a passport.  A birth certificate works on both Disney and Carnival.  

[oliviabenson]

Oh myyyy that’s not a MAHMO approved… too close! And SEVERELY immahdest.

[libgirl2]

5 minutes ago, oliviabenson said:

Oh myyyy that’s not a MAHMO approved… too close! And SEVERELY immahdest.

Good for them! Full hugs too. 

[Minivanessa]

Just now, libgirl2 said:

Good for them! Full hugs too. 

Oh yes! And don't you know Jill is FUMING. Butt hurt so bad. Another photoshoot that she didn't do, or appear in, or direct, or release to the waiting world. The Finger™ not in evidence. Oh, the tragedy!! 🤣

[oliviabenson]

Her finger is severely enraged it’s scooping up guac as fast as it can! Mahmo is angry!

[Madtown]

Those are really nice pictures. They actually look like a normal couple in love.  So much better than the cringeworthy ones that MAHMO takes.

I'm hoping in all hopes that Jill was behind all of Timbits creepy videos and posts. Or, that he's realizing what a freakin' psycho his mom is.

[floridamom]

I wish Timbo would kiss her in one of the photos, even on the cheek or forehead. That would make Mahmo really nervous.

[libgirl2]

My plexus friend is on the cruise. He has a room to himself with a balcony which I think all or  most rooms do.  It actually looks nice. 

Edited November 2, 2023 by libgirl2

[Salacious Kitty]

So bummed that Jill sat this one out. But not half as bummed as she is, for sure. 

It would have been a snarker's dream. Sigh.

[libgirl2]

6 minutes ago, Salacious Kitty said:

So bummed that Jill sat this one out. But not half as bummed as she is, for sure. 

It would have been a snarker's dream. Sigh.

I almost, almost feel bad for her, but I feel worse for us! 

[libgirl2]

Now there is a video, so far two bars, lots of shorts, people swimming in actual bathing suits. Jill's head would have exploded. 

[Ohiopirate02]

4 minutes ago, libgirl2 said:

Now there is a video, so far two bars, lots of shorts, people swimming in actual bathing suits. Jill's head would have exploded. 

Did Plexus sell out an entire cruise ship, or are there other passengers on board?  

[libgirl2]

Just now, Ohiopirate02 said:

Did Plexus sell out an entire cruise ship, or are there other passengers on board?  

It has to be the whole ship, there are plexus signs everywhere. 

[BradandJanet]

Things must be going pretty badly for Jill to miss out on mingling with Plexus royalty. She loves being in the Plexus world, and she both earned and won the opportunity to go on this trip. I can't see her passing it up without a very big  reason. Getting rewards from the Plexus higher-ups is a lot more fun that hanging around laundromats and parking lots passing out smiley tracts. 

I would feel sorry for pretty much anyone other than Jill. Because David won't work to support his family and Jill enables him, their 13 children have missed out on important life opportunities like education, socialization, nutrition, play, and career choices. 

I'm guessing the "spiritual warfare" is Teidi carrying on their engagement, in their own way, without Jill's supervision. Ouch. 

 

[oliviabenson]

Now that’s the go fund me us snarkers would have contributed to! Worth every $ to see Jill on that cruise and her wardrobe 🤣🤣🤣. Jill missed out on the golden opportunity 🤣🤣🤣.

[ginger90]

Part of a blog post that mentions the magazine:

”I (Jill) started a quarterly – Make Your Life Count – MAGAZINE!  This was a HUGE step of financial faith.  It will be printed and shipped to all of our subscribers, FREE of cost to them!   Please pray that God would provide for this need.  If you wish to subscribe to this “Rodrigues Family Production” magazine, then please e-mail us to let us know!  It is a magazine designed to encourage Biblical, godly homes.  If you desire to donate to help with the next printing and shipping of the magazine (early 2024), then please also e-mail Jill to ask how to donate to this need.  Thank You!  

Thank you for your prayers for our family against the evil darkness of this old world, the devil, and spiritual wickedness in high places. In a world of uncertainty and wars and rumors of wars, we have learned the value of simply living EACH day to its fullest!  To put one foot in front of the next and not to worry about tomorrow….for we know WHO holds the future!  It brings a simple faith, trust and JOY as we walk through a world of uncertainty.  We love each one of you!                             

All Because of Jesus,  Jill for the Rodrigues Family”

[GeeGolly]

Maybe, just maybe Jill didn't want to stand out as the wacko that she is. To Jill this women are smart business women. Women she wants to hitch her wagon too. I'm sure she noticed a few stares, grimaces or chuckles aimed at her at other gatherings.

Now if this was an Alaskan cruise she'd be all in. 🤣

[libgirl2]

13 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

Maybe, just maybe Jill didn't want to stand out as the wacko that she is. To Jill this women are smart business women. Women she wants to hitch her wagon too. I'm sure she noticed a few stares, grimaces or chuckles aimed at her at other gatherings.

Now if this was an Alaskan cruise she'd be all in. 🤣

Jill doesn't think she herself is a wacko, so I don't think that is the case. 

 

[beckie]

Jill and clan didn't get vaxxed did they? Could be as simple as she can't provide the proof of vaccination she needed for the trip.

[GeeGolly]

3 minutes ago, beckie said:

Jill and clan didn't get vaxxed did they? Could be as simple as she can't provide the proof of vaccination she needed for the trip.

I'm sure she could provide an exemption.

1 hour ago, libgirl2 said:

Jill doesn't think she herself is a wacko, so I don't think that is the case. 

 

I think with the Plexus ladies, but only the Plexus ladies, she knows.

[beckie]

2 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

I'm sure she could provide an exemption.

I think with the Plexus ladies, but only the Plexus ladies, she knows.

What kind of exemption could she provide that the cruise would accept? Bat sh*t crazy doesn't count. 

[CalicoKitty]

5 hours ago, libgirl2 said:

Good for them! Full hugs too. 

They look so happy, and I am happy for them.  It seems Tim has picked his side, and I hope he continues to stand up for Heidi against the MIL beast.  Any info on the wedding date?

Where and how did they meet?

[Salacious Kitty]

Just now, CalicoKitty said:

They look so happy, and I am happy for them.  It seems Tim has picked his side, and I hope he continues to stand up for Heidi against the MIL beast.  Any info on the wedding date?

Where and how did they meet?

They met through the Plexus connection between Jill and Heidi's mom. The families met somewhere, and I guess there was interest from the get go. I forget the timeline, but they've been together for the better part of a year in some capacity. 

[GeeGolly]

3 minutes ago, beckie said:

What kind of exemption could she provide that the cruise would accept? Bat sh*t crazy doesn't count. 

A religious exemption.

[CalicoKitty]

How long does it take to get vaccine exemption paperwork?  Maybe she just didn't plan ahead.  After all, she considers herself very special.

[Salacious Kitty]

Do they really need proof of vaccination or exemptions? This is a closed Plexus event. 

[oliviabenson]

Ellen is throwing shade at someone (no name is given) but it’s probably Jill. 
 

It’s really good.

 

Juicy rumors me like!

[Salacious Kitty]

7 minutes ago, oliviabenson said:

Ellen is throwing shade at someone (no name is given) but it’s probably Jill. 
 

It’s really good.

 

Juicy rumors me like!

Got a link? 😀

[ginger90]

42 minutes ago, Salacious Kitty said:

Got a link? 😀

There’s a couple of recent ones that could be what is being referred to:

[Salacious Kitty]

Those first two certainly could refer to Jill. I'm sure she's ruined many a "friendship" by treating people like garbage.

[CalicoKitty]

Maybe Jill was demanding a change to some rule for the cruise.  I'm still puzzled by her comment (I know, aren't they all puzzling?) that she has been so sick, and she has been fighting demons, or something like that.  I do wonder if she has Covid.

1 hour ago, Salacious Kitty said:

Do they really need proof of vaccination or exemptions? This is a closed Plexus event. 

Maybe she would need proof of vaccination to get off the ship.  She wouldn't be able to swim in the ocean in her denim skirt if she wasn't allowed off the ship.

[Salacious Kitty]

I believe the only port of call on the cruise is a closed location that the ship line owns and operates. They're not in contact with the locals. 

[BradandJanet]

Maybe Jill just needed a negative Covid test to get on that boat, and she couldn't provide one because she was sick with Covid. 

Sweet justice. 

[BetyBee]

The third comment about working Dads could be a dig at lazy Dave!

Looks like Tim is all in with the Coveretts. 

[Madtown]

Do you still need to be vaccinated to go on a cruise? I know someone who has never had a vaccination(teenager)and they will be going on a cruise this month. I don't go on cruises, so I know nothing about exemptions(I'm vaccinated).

[absolutelyido]

35 minutes ago, Madtown said:

Do you still need to be vaccinated to go on a cruise? I know someone who has never had a vaccination(teenager)and they will be going on a cruise this month. I don't go on cruises, so I know nothing about exemptions(I'm vaccinated).

No, I took a cruise in September and no proof of vaccination required.

[Kbo]

35 minutes ago, absolutelyido said:

No, I took a cruise in September and no proof of vaccination required.

Same, I took a cruise in March and there were no COVID requirements. Whatever the reason, I don’t think it’s that. I’m truly surprised she didn’t go, honestly. 

[CalicoKitty]

3 hours ago, Madtown said:

Do you still need to be vaccinated to go on a cruise? I know someone who has never had a vaccination(teenager)and they will be going on a cruise this month. I don't go on cruises, so I know nothing about exemptions(I'm vaccinated).

It all depends on the cruise line and the destination.  I have a cruise planned in March, and their cruises sailing through the end of this month require proof of vaccination.  So I won't need any vaccination documents in April.  However, there are specific cruises to certain parts of the world that will require vaccine documents through all of 2024.  Each cruise line has their own rules.

[ginger90]

There were a couple of pictures, I’m just using this one.

 

[ginger90]

“Various reasons”

If Plexus doesn’t approve her various reasons, she won’t receive any of the wonderful gifts.

”2023 Leaders Retreat Caribbean Cruise FAQs
General (cont.)
Question: What if I earn Leaders Retreat and choose not to attend? What happens to the prizes I have earned?
Answer: If you achieve 1,250 or more credits and choose not to attend, all contest prizes you would have received while on the cruise will be automatically forfeited if you do not attend. No cash alternatives will be issued and the prizes are non-transferable.
Question: What if I have an extenuating circumstance that does not allow me to attend Leaders Retreat?
Answer: Those who cannot attend due to extenuating circumstances may submit an exceptions request, which will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. Extenuating circumstances include military deployment, pregnancy, death in the family, or severe illness.”

I laughed at “severe illness”.

[Turquoise]

So Jilly was up in the middle of the night writing a birthday tribute to herself? How predictable.

[wilsie]

Maybe she has mentioned "God is good" on her other FB posts but from what's been shown here, not so much.  And that was her go-to way of saying god was doing what Jill wanted.

[Minivanessa]

8 hours ago, Kbo said:

I’m truly surprised she didn’t go, honestly. 

I'm surprised because over the past months she's gone so hard into the Plexus pushing on her social media, indicating that her Plexus boss lady role and aspirations are a higher priority than they used to be. But I'm not shocked, because I always thought she'd be challenged to find the funds for the land transportation and other expenses she'd incur in order to take the cruise she "won."

I also see a tension, a lurking conflict, between her role as the helpmeet and submissive wife of an IFB traveling preacher and missionary, and her role as a Plexus hun. 

The IFB Preacher's Wife. I'm so used to seeing Jill as the public face of the Rod Family Serving Jesus, that it's easy to forget that in the IFB world, it's DAVID who's the head of the family and the official Missionary in Charge of the operation. He's the one who is booked to preach at those churches, revivals, and conferences. She's his wife, who because she has the wrong kind of genitals can't preach, but does have her own supporting (cough, cough) role. She can perform music, along with the kids. She can speak to women's groups. She obviously can post stuff on social media, and she can lead that annual women's retreat (that someone else started and Jill grabbed hold of when that person stepped back I think because of health). The role of Preacher's Wife is a high status position in the IFB world, and that's how Jill wants to be seen. AFAIK the IFB frowns on wimmin holding jobs, but it's okay for godly wives to have little sidelines to bring in money. IIRC Jonathan's mom (a real preacher's wife) has some kind of farm operation - goats? reptiles? Side hustles such as MLMs are okay. The parameters of Jill's situation with the Rod Family Serving Jesus include:

• Staying in her lane as supportive and submissive wife of David who is a traveling preacher and missionary.
• Organizing and promoting their appearances. Which IMO includes posting appropriate religious stuff and content showing their godly family life. 
• Presenting the family as of modest financial means, having SACRIFICED so much worldly stuff to serve the correct Jesus, and an appropriate recipient of love offerings everywhere they go.
• Chronicling the family's work to save souls for the Lord Daniel. Including their travails and suffering in this evil world, including the RV breakdowns.

The Plexus Boss Babe. Whether it's driven by her narcissism or desperation to bring in money (I think it's both), Jill ramped up her Plexus pushing this year. It's all over her social media, all the time. The highlights of her year were the Nashville convention and the "Gold School" meeting in Austin. She busted her butt, and apparently signed up everybody in sight as a downline (probably including her dog), and "won" or "earned" the "WONDERFUL" cruise. She's humping like mad to move up the Plexus ladder to the next status. And so we get this stuff on the Rod Family Serving Jesus social media, and I'm sure she's doing this stuff offline wherever she can:

• Sales pitches for the wonderful Plexus products that will keep everyone healthy. 
• Working with her downlines ("team") to push Plexus; she posts publicly their Zoom calls and pics of their meetings. And I saw that she has recently publicly posted the names and sales rankings of her downlines. (Which to me is a WTF moment. Why does the PUBLIC who follows Jill on SM need to know that detail?)
• Recruitment of new downlines - she's pushing a "business" opportunity, i.e., opportunity to make money. 
• Presenting Plexus as an essential thing for good health, and herself as a successful upline making money from selling the wonderful stuff.

I tend to skim over her Plexus stuff on SM, but even if she soft-pedals the money side of it, this is clearly a 100% worldly thing. She's making no secret of her lust to move up to a higher status in the Plexus system. 

So is she a successful Plexus boss babe, who I should follow by signing up as a downline so I can share in the wealth? Or is she the dogly wife of a preacher serving the correct Jesus, as they live a devout life apart from the evils of the world, and because this has been such a financial sacrifice for them, I should throw love offerings at them? 

I wonder if the balance of her social media content has tipped so far over toward the Plexus side, that there's been some mutterings and pushback from the IFB world. She can sprinkle the Jesus-y talk all over her Plexus postings and meetings and team calls, but it's a worldly activity to earn money. "So, she's pulling in enough bucks to spend days at a convention in Nashville, staying in a hotel and wearing new outfits every day. Then she brings her skinny raggedy kids to our church and wants us to pile on the love offerings? My grocery bill is up by 40% this year and gas prices are nuts. Don't think the Rods need my money anymore."

Would Jill have been wiser to run separate social media accounts for her Plexus biz and the Rod Family Serving Jesus? Maybe. But I think it's probably one of the basic IFB rules that wives can't have their own social media presence apart from their husbands. Hence all the "X Family" and "JohnJane Doe" social media accounts. 

At this point the mix is even more interesting because one of her downlines is the mother of Tim's fiance: religion, family relations, and Plexus money. Of course, in Jill's world, EVERYTHING is all about Jill, all the time. I see from discussions here and elsewhere that Ellen Covert may not be as easily steamrolled as Jill expects. I'm here for the drah-mah. 

[BetyBee]

1 hour ago, Turquoise said:

So Jilly was up in the middle of the night writing a birthday tribute to herself? How predictable.

Yaaaassss! I don't care what Kaylee Girl Jill says. Jill does NOT light up a room! (™Dateline)

[crazy8s]

1 hour ago, ginger90 said:

There were a couple of pictures, I’m just using this one.

 

how convenient Kaylee girl had all those pics from mama's phone to add to her tribute. 😂

[oliviabenson]

Jill lightens others wallets that’s pretty much it.

[oliviabenson]

36 minutes ago, BetyBee said:

Yaaaassss! I don't care what Kaylee Girl Jill says. Jill does NOT light up a room! (™Dateline)

Haha! Haha! That is my favorite line from Dateline.

[laurakaye]

I just saw posts from Janelle and Christine Brown from Sister Wives, enjoying their Plexus cruise.  This might be a dumb question, but does JillRod know of these Z-list reality celebrities and if so, would she try to approach them for a selfie in order to up her own game?  We know she adores reminding us that Nurie is married to Anna Duggar's brother (although the shine from that particular name-drop is now tarnished), so I wondered if Jill would throw elbows in order to glom on to another TLC-related reality talent, or would she just stand by, silently judging them like she does everyone else?

I was really hoping for Jill and these Sister Wives' orbits to  finally collide!

Edited November 3, 2023 by laurakaye