Sweet Fellowship: Duggars and Friends (aka the Bates Family and Other Featured Families Thread)

[libgirl2]

2 minutes ago, crazycatlady58 said:

Well I can understand why she did not want to give the name of the hospital but if you are going to not wear a mask in that situation ..own it. Be proud of the fact you did not wear a mask. Just to be clear I think they should be wearing a mask in the hospital and there is no reason to bring everyone in at the same time.

Maybe the hospital has tried and they are just done with the whole lot of them? 

[Cinnabon]

What makes this situation all the more sickening is that if Jill’s mom does become infected with Covid or RSV, Jill will blame the hospital and the medical staff.

1 minute ago, libgirl2 said:

Maybe the hospital has tried and they are just done with the whole lot of them? 

Probably, but there are other vulnerable patients and their families in that hospital, too. At the very least, they should be limiting the number of visitors who can enter at one time, imo. 

[Notabug]

3 hours ago, Madtown said:

Someone did question on the Facebook post what hospital and why no masks. Of course Jill hasn't answered. Suprised the comment has been deleted and the person hasn't been blocked. I was going to comment about masks, but apparently you have to be a "friend" to comment.

Columbus is a rather conservative town and I would not be surprised if there were a significant number of hospital visitors who flaunt the rules.  

As I've said before, other than telling them to mask up or leave, there isn't a lot the hospital staff can do to prevent people from flaunting the rules.  If they ask and Jill refuses to mask up or leave, they don't have much recourse except to call the cops and charge them with trespassing.  The police are not terribly interested in arresting hospital visitors. No doubt, whenever asked to wear a mask, Jill protests loudly, talking about her civil rights and God's will and the like.  With others visiting who are probably in agreement with her, it is hard to imagine the staff challenging her very strongly. 

I live in an area where people are more compliant, but, even here, there are people who belligerently refuse to wear a mask and challenge the staff to do something about it.  I've seen it at least twice in the past 6 months.  It's understandable that people think hospitals should be enforcing these rules, but there is no way to handle people who blatantly flaunt them and want to cause an argument.  Because that is exactly what Jill wants, probably David, too.  They want to be called out on their idiocy so that they can claim persecution.  There is no easy answer.

The hospital where I work has a script for employees to follow when people refuse to wear a mask.  The final point is to simply tell the person that they are not allowed to visit without one and to offer them the phone number of the hospital ombudsman to discuss it further and to offer to take their phone number and a member of their loved one's treatment team will update them on his/her status.  No mention of what to do if they cruise on past, which is what I've seen happen.  There is absolutely no mention of calling for security to remove the offender or calling security at all.

There are also now signs in all of the inpatient and outpatient areas telling people that foul or abusive language, threatening gestures or acts against employees are not permitted and anyone who does such things will be subject to prosecution.  Now, I consider not wearing a mask to be threatening in its own way; but that is not what we employees are told when it comes to dealing with idiots.  

Edited July 28, 2022 by Notabug

[Cinnabon]

11 minutes ago, Notabug said:

Columbus is a rather conservative town and I would not be surprised if there were a significant number of hospital visitors who flaunt the rules.  

As I've said before, other than telling them to mask up or leave, there isn't a lot the hospital staff can do to prevent people from flaunting the rules.  If they ask and Jill refuses to mask up or leave, they don't have much recourse except to call the cops and charge them with trespassing.  The police are not terribly interested in arresting hospital visitors. No doubt, whenever asked to wear a mask, Jill protests loudly, talking about her civil rights and God's will and the like.  With others visiting who are probably in agreement with her, it is hard to imagine the staff challenging her very strongly. 

I live in an area where people are more compliant, but, even here, there are people who belligerently refuse to wear a mask and challenge the staff to do something about it.  I've seen it at least twice in the past 6 months.  It's understandable that people think hospitals should be enforcing these rules, but there is no way to handle people who blatantly flaunt them and want to cause an argument.  Because that is exactly what Jill wants, probably David, too.  They want to be called out on their idiocy so that they can claim persecution.  There is no easy answer.

The hospital where I work has a script for employees to follow when people refuse to wear a mask.  The final point is to simply tell the person that they are not allowed to visit without one and to offer them the phone number of the hospital ombudsman to discuss it further and to offer to take their phone number and a member of their loved one's treatment team will update them on his/her status.  No mention of what to do if they cruise on past, which is what I've seen happen.  There are also now signs in all of the inpatient and outpatient areas telling people that foul or abusive language, threatening gestures or acts against employees are not permitted and anyone who does such things will be subject to prosecution.  Now, I consider not wearing a mask to be threatening in its own way; but that is not what we employees are told when it comes to dealing with idiots.

I live in SW Ohio about an hour from Cincinnati/Kentucky, so it’s not dissimilar to Columbus. I guess I’m lucky that my experience in hospitals here has been different. Everyone was required to wear a mask when entering the last time I was in a Cincinnati hospital (2 weeks ago) and it appeared that everyone complied. I was in a class situation, and there were less than 10 other patients present in a big room, sitting with lots of space between us, and everyone wore masks without comment. I did see big signs warning that foul language, abusive behavior, etc were prohibited, though, so they’ve probably had ongoing issues. So sad that people have to be told that’s unacceptable.

Edited July 28, 2022 by Cinnabon

[libgirl2]

2 minutes ago, Cinnabon said:

I live in SW Ohio about an hour from Cincinnati/Kentucky, so it’s not dissimilar to Columbus. I guess I’m lucky that my experience in hospitals here has been different. Everyone was require to wear a mask when entering the last time I was in a Cincinnati hospital (2 weeks ago) and it appeared that everyone complied. I did big signs warning that foul language, abusive behavior, etc were prohibited, though, so they’ve probably had ongoing issues. So sad that people have to be told that’s unacceptable.

Yes it is. That is what we have come to about so many things. 

[Notabug]

30 minutes ago, Cinnabon said:

I live in SW Ohio about an hour from Cincinnati/Kentucky, so it’s not dissimilar to Columbus. I guess I’m lucky that my experience in hospitals here has been different. Everyone was required to wear a mask when entering the last time I was in a Cincinnati hospital (2 weeks ago) and it appeared that everyone complied. I was in a class situation, and there were less than 10 other patients present in a big room, sitting with lots of space between us, and everyone wore masks without comment. I did see big signs warning that foul language, abusive behavior, etc were prohibited, though, so they’ve probably had ongoing issues. So sad that people have to be told that’s unacceptable.

That is the real tragedy in all of this; the lack of respect for common decency.  

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live in SW Ohio about an hour from Cincinnati/Kentucky, so it’s not dissimilar to Columbus. I guess I’m lucky that my experience in hospitals here has been different. Everyone was required to wear a mask when entering the last time I was in a Cincinnati hospital (2 weeks ago) and it appeared that everyone complied. I was in a class situation

I don't mean to imply that every patient and visitor at OSU hospitals is ignoring the mask mandate; I suspect that, even in Columbus, it isn't a common occurrence.  But, I do expect it happens more often in Columbus than in other places that are less hard core conservative.  The Rods are probably fairly exceptional even there, not just for their disregard for the rules, but for the huge numbers of them filling the elevators and hallways with their germs.

I've seen 2 people get snotty in 2+ years of masking at work.  I've seen thousands more who didn't and I've seen plenty of people who arrived without a mask who were quite happy to don one when asked.

Edited July 28, 2022 by Notabug

[Absolom]

31 minutes ago, Notabug said:

The hospital where I work has a script for employees to follow when people refuse to wear a mask. 

It's so different.  Our hospital has four or five security guards at the entrance.  I've seen people try to force their way in.  They were taken in hand by two guards with two more walking up and held for the police.  Since the police are regularly dropping off people it takes about two minutes for someone to show up and ask them to leave willingly with a warning or go sit in the police car in handcuffs until the officer has time to book them.  

I wonder how Jill would deal with that?  Would she choose to leave or be arrested?  What I've usually seen from the Jill types is as soon as security approaches them, they scream about their rights, but leave very quickly before they can be apprehended.  It's really rare though.  Some people grumble, but only a couple people have created a scene that I've witnessed.  

[Notabug]

11 minutes ago, Absolom said:

It's so different.  Our hospital has four or five security guards at the entrance.  I've seen people try to force their way in.  They were taken in hand by two guards with two more walking up and held for the police.  Since the police are regularly dropping off people it takes about two minutes for someone to show up and ask them to leave willingly with a warning or go sit in the police car in handcuffs until the officer has time to book them.  

I wonder how Jill would deal with that?  Would she choose to leave or be arrested?  What I've usually seen from the Jill types is as soon as security approaches them, they scream about their rights, but leave very quickly before they can be apprehended.  It's really rare though.  Some people grumble, but only a couple people have created a scene that I've witnessed.  

I don't think Jill would wait for a police officer to show up, though.  Even if it is just a couple of minutes, I suspect she would push right past whoever was checking ID's and issuing masks and go wherever she wants.  Or take a mask, pretend to put it on and toss it aside as soon as she was past the desk.  We've seen photos of them walking in what appear to be public spaces in the hospital, but not every hallway or waiting area is going to be monitored.  I see Jill as the sort to laugh and ignore anyone who got in her way.  I doubt the hospital security force (OSU has its own police department as does the major medical center where I work) is going to go up on the floor and risk a physical confrontation. And, God forbid another visitor would ask her to to put on a mask!  

These days, people are so volatile and quick to take offense and lash out, I think many employees would think twice before confronting them, especially now that Mama has been in the hospital awhile and they see how BSC Jill really is.

Edited July 28, 2022 by Notabug

[Cinnabon]

22 minutes ago, Notabug said:

That is the real tragedy in all of this; the lack of respect for common decency.  

I don't mean to imply that every patient and visitor at OSU hospitals is ignoring the mask mandate; I suspect that, even in Columbus, it isn't a common occurrence.  But, I do expect it happens more often in Columbus than in other places that are less hard core conservative.  The Rods are probably fairly exceptional even there, not just for their disregard for the rules, but for the huge numbers of them filling the elevators and hallways with their germs.

I've seen 2 people get snotty in 2+ years of masking at work.  I've seen thousands more who didn't and I've seen plenty of people who arrived without a mask who were quite happy to don one when asked.

I went to pick up my cat’s medication at my vet’s office the other day. They had a big sign outside the front door stating that masks were required, and they had a box of masks right there for anyone without one. The office was fairly empty, but everyone coming in or out, including children, was wearing them. I assume anyone who had major issues with their rules found new vets.

I’m sure hospital guests often take off their masks once they get into patients’ rooms, but  a dozen loud people traipsing maskless through the halls is something else. The hospital really needs to put limits on now many visitors a patient can have at one time.

Edited July 28, 2022 by Cinnabon

[Absolom]

The world is so different.  Here if she did that, they'd go right after her and take her to the security office to be held for the police.  I should tell the story some day of what I've seen at Huntington Memorial.  

I take it the hospital where Jill is visiting doesn't have much of a security staff?  When I went in for a treatment a few months ago, there were six security officers at the entrance.  I'm not sure what had happened, but it's taken very seriously here.  BSC Jill would be considered for a section or a jail cell if she tried to pull shenanigans.  I'm guessing she'd at least pretend to conform.  

[GeeGolly]

At hospitals around here, depending on the door, you may walk into an expansive lobby or a typical entrance. Since they onset of the pandemic the larger entrances have been cordoned off into one or two lanes. While temperature checks have stopped, all entrances still have guards who enforce all rules for both patients and visitors. The Rods wouldn't make it passed the guards without jumping the barriers. This is the guards job and they have no problem enforcing them.

That's not to say  a couple of Rods couldn't take their masks off after passing the guard, but they would stand out and would be asked to comply by hospital employees. But still they wouldn't make it past the guards because of the number of them.

[Cinnabon]

Just now, Absolom said:

The world is so different.  Here if she did that, they'd go right after her and take her to the security office to be held for the police.  I should tell the story some day of what I've seen at Huntington Memorial.  

I take it the hospital where Jill is visiting doesn't have much of a security staff?  When I went in for a treatment a few months ago, there were six security officers at the entrance.  I'm not sure what had happened, but it's taken very seriously here.  BSC Jill would be considered for a section or a jail cell if she tried to pull shenanigans.  I'm guessing she'd at least pretend to conform.  

Exactly. They should call security/the cops on her and the rest of the superspreading horde. I bet the kids would have no problems following the rules if it weren’t for Jill. If the hospital put their foot down and demanded masks, would they insist on transferring Ma to a different hospital? I doubt it. 

Just now, GeeGolly said:

At hospitals around here, depending on the door, you may walk into an expansive lobby or a typical entrance. Since they onset of the pandemic the larger entrances have been cordoned off into one or two lanes. While temperature checks have stopped, all entrances still have guards who enforce all rules for both patients and visitors. The Rods wouldn't make it passed the guards without jumping the barriers. This is the guards job and they have no problem enforcing them.

That's not to say  a couple of Rods couldn't take their masks off after passing the guard, but they would stand out and would be asked to comply by hospital employees. But still they wouldn't make it past the guards because of the number of them.

They are clearly stopped at the door and given their identification badges, as we’ve seen them wearing them in pictures from Ma’s room. I’m sure they’re wearing masks at that point, too, and taking them off later. 

[GeeGolly]

2 minutes ago, Cinnabon said:

They are clearly stopped at the door and given their identification badges, as we’ve seen them wearing them in pictures from Ma’s room. I’m sure they’re wearing masks at that point, too, and taking them off later. 

I'm not sure that's happening. They were shown walking in the hallway with no masks on their faces or in their hands. Also only a few have been shown with visitor stickers and one clearly looks as if its been reused.

But anyway, they wouldn't all be allowed in at the same time around here. Even before the pandemic the number of visitors were limited. Anyone could get away with an extra quiet visitor or two, but a family of 10 plus - nope.

[CalicoKitty]

18 hours ago, ginger90 said:

I’m only posting one picture because we haven’t seen these two in a while. From a visitor badge, it looks like this visit was on Sunday.

The whole crew was there.

Jill’s latest post:

A lot of people have asked me about my sweet Mom's progress. She is continuing to improve, although she is still quite confused and dealing with a killer headache.  😪  She had successful surgery today to take out her head drain and put in a permanent shunt.  Less wires and tubes attached to her - YES!..... but, MORE of her beautiful hair got shaved off!  😢  She is doing well, all things considering and we thank you for your prayers!  ❤️ A HUGE thank you to my Aunt Brenda Noyes-Gainer and Bette Bray Burlew for coming to help.  Thank you also for Kevin Burlew coming to be a blessing.  My brother in law ( Kevin Foster ) always lovingly puts essential oils on my mom when he visits.  😊  We are blessed to have such wonderful relatives and friends!  😊🥰😉

Philip reminds me of Wally Cox in this picture (I'm old).

[libgirl2]

3 minutes ago, CalicoKitty said:

Philip reminds me of Wally Cox in this picture (I'm old).

That is who he looks like! From what I heard, Wally Cox was quite the ladies man. 

[Notabug]

1 hour ago, Absolom said:

The world is so different.  Here if she did that, they'd go right after her and take her to the security office to be held for the police.  I should tell the story some day of what I've seen at Huntington Memorial.  

I take it the hospital where Jill is visiting doesn't have much of a security staff?  When I went in for a treatment a few months ago, there were six security officers at the entrance.  I'm not sure what had happened, but it's taken very seriously here.  BSC Jill would be considered for a section or a jail cell if she tried to pull shenanigans.  I'm guessing she'd at least pretend to conform.  

I haven't been to the hospital where Mama is for a long, long time, but I did go to medical school there.  Ohio State, being a university with over 60,000 students enrolled at main campus, has its own police force and there is a special detachment for the hospital.  I am sure there are at least a couple of security officers present at the entrance at any given time, though 6 sounds like more than most hospitals would have.

The problem is that I don't think Jill would obey a police officer and stop and wait if told she couldn't go in without a mask.  You're talking about rational people who are basically law-abiding.  I don't think Jill thinks that applies to her and she would refuse to stop and essentially dare the cops to come after her, grab her and wrestle her to the ground.  I seriously doubt that most hospital police forces are going to physically restrain someone for not wearing a mask and I don't think anything less than that would stop Jill.  I could see the cops taking a look at her and her hubby and their ragtag band of kids and being concerned about what they would do should one of their number be physically prevented from entering.  And I don't think even 6 cops would be enough to prevent JRod, Dave and all her kids from getting in even if they did try to physically prevent it.

Personally, I think the likeliest thing is that Jill and the fam make a big show of putting on masks all the while griping about how ridiculous and unnecessary they are and then take them off once they're out  of sight of security.  They may only be taking them off for Mama to take pictures for all we know.  Jill would hate to have anyone see her behaving as though she had common sense.

[Notabug]

1 hour ago, GeeGolly said:

I'm not sure that's happening. They were shown walking in the hallway with no masks on their faces or in their hands. Also only a few have been shown with visitor stickers and one clearly looks as if its been reused.

But anyway, they wouldn't all be allowed in at the same time around here. Even before the pandemic the number of visitors were limited. Anyone could get away with an extra quiet visitor or two, but a family of 10 plus - nope.

Hospitals are currently faced with the issue of patient satisfaction numbers which are looked at by Medicare as well as insurance companies when deciding who gets their business and how they get paid.

A couple years before the pandemic, the hospital where I practiced got patient satisfaction numbers that were not what they'd hoped for.  They investigated and discovered that, for obstetric patients, the number one complaint was that the patients wanted to have as many visitors as they wanted both during labor and delivery and afterwards on post partum.  That was the biggest complaint by a landslide.  At the time, they were allowed 2 designated visitors in labor and delivery although the nurses often made exceptions to allow quick visits from more people.  Then, postpartum, they could have as many visitors as they wanted, but no more than 2 at a time.

After the survey, the hospital had to do something to fix those numbers or they'd have been in trouble with their insurance carriers.  So, labor and delivery became a free-for-all with many people having 6-10 family members and friends there for the delivery and a cast of thousands in and  out while they were in labor.  A major PITA because, by law, labor and delivery units must be locked to prevent infant abduction so every visitor had to be buzzed onto the unit.  There were times when the staff had trouble taking care of the patient or accessing needed equipment because there were all sorts of idiots loitering around the room.  Lots of trouble with visitors thinking they were in a hotel and demanding blankets, pillows and snacks and being rude when told these things were not available.

The pandemic put an end to it, but I'm sure it'll be back and the staff will be stuck with it.

Since Mama is in ICU and Jilly and the fam are visiting from out of town, I am sure they demanded special visiting privileges which ICU's will often grant in the case of people who don't live nearby and when a patient is seriously ill.  Exceptions are made all the time for this.

[Cinnabon]

18 minutes ago, Notabug said:

Hospitals are currently faced with the issue of patient satisfaction numbers which are looked at by Medicare as well as insurance companies when deciding who gets their business and how they get paid.

A couple years before the pandemic, the hospital where I practiced got patient satisfaction numbers that were not what they'd hoped for.  They investigated and discovered that, for obstetric patients, the number one complaint was that the patients wanted to have as many visitors as they wanted both during labor and delivery and afterwards on post partum.  That was the biggest complaint by a landslide.  At the time, they were allowed 2 designated visitors in labor and delivery although the nurses often made exceptions to allow quick visits from more people.  Then, postpartum, they could have as many visitors as they wanted, but no more than 2 at a time.

After the survey, the hospital had to do something to fix those numbers or they'd have been in trouble with their insurance carriers.  So, labor and delivery became a free-for-all with many people having 6-10 family members and friends there for the delivery and a cast of thousands in and  out while they were in labor.  A major PITA because, by law, labor and delivery units must be locked to prevent infant abduction so every visitor had to be buzzed onto the unit.  There were times when the staff had trouble taking care of the patient or accessing needed equipment because there were all sorts of idiots loitering around the room.  Lots of trouble with visitors thinking they were in a hotel and demanding blankets, pillows and snacks and being rude when told these things were not available.

The pandemic put an end to it, but I'm sure it'll be back and the staff will be stuck with it.

Since Mama is in ICU and Jilly and the fam are visiting from out of town, I am sure they demanded special visiting privileges which ICU's will often grant in the case of people who don't live nearby and when a patient is seriously ill.  Exceptions are made all the time for this.

I wonder how many patients will fill out their patient satisfaction surveys negatively because the hospital continued to allow the Rods’ behavior? Not only loud and annoying, but potentially dangerous for others there.  I know I would, even if I didn’t say anything out loud while I was there.

I also wonder how many germs are spread to newborns when new mothers allow dozens of visitors in their hospital rooms.

Edited July 28, 2022 by Cinnabon

[GeeGolly]

Anyone else find the SIL rubbing essential oil on his MIL's foot kind of creepy?

[Notabug]

4 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

Anyone else find the SIL rubbing essential oil on his MIL's foot kind of creepy?

I find the entire ship of fools to be very creepy.

Anyone live in Columbus?   Anyone want to call the hospital ombudsman to complain about a massive family filled with rude, nasty people who traipsed up and down the halls without masks purportedly visiting a sick family member?

Edited July 28, 2022 by Notabug

[Cinnabon]

6 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

Anyone else find the SIL rubbing essential oil on his MIL's foot kind of creepy?

YES. These are the kind of people who bought horse dewormer to treat Covid (hello, Bin’s mom). I hope they’re not making idiotic suggestions/demands about her treatment  to Ma’s doctors and caregivers.

4 minutes ago, Notabug said:

I find the entire ship of fools to be very creepy.

Anyone live in Columbus?   Anyone want to call the hospital ombudsman to complain about a massive family filled with rude, nasty people who traipsed up and down the halls without masks.  

 I live about an hour away from there and once saw a specialist there. Does that count?

Edited July 28, 2022 by Cinnabon

[GeeGolly]

Any word if the Med-Dicks have "deployed" to KY? 

[Salacious Kitty]

2 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

Any word if the Med-Dicks have "deployed" to KY? 

They even have a chopper for roof rescues. 😂

[farmgal4]

2 hours ago, Absolom said:

The world is so different.  Here if she did that, they'd go right after her and take her to the security office to be held for the police.  I should tell the story some day of what I've seen at Huntington Memorial.  

I take it the hospital where Jill is visiting doesn't have much of a security staff?  When I went in for a treatment a few months ago, there were six security officers at the entrance.  I'm not sure what had happened, but it's taken very seriously here.  BSC Jill would be considered for a section or a jail cell if she tried to pull shenanigans.  I'm guessing she'd at least pretend to conform.  

There’s a picture of Jill in Ma’s hospital room, and Jill’s face is next to Ma’s.  Jill has on a yellow disposable mask, but it’s pulled down below her chin.  The thing that blows my mind is that no one appears to care if Ma gets Covid!  

[Notabug]

2 minutes ago, farmgal4 said:

There’s a picture of Jill in Ma’s hospital room, and Jill’s face is next to Ma’s.  Jill has on a yellow disposable mask, but it’s pulled down below her chin.  The thing that blows my mind is that no one appears to care if Ma gets Covid!  

That's because COVID isn't real, it's a figment of the government's imagination.  Just ask Jill.

[Salacious Kitty]

6 minutes ago, Notabug said:

That's because COVID isn't real, it's a figment of the government's imagination.  Just ask Jill.

Jill actually acknowledged when her parents got Covid fairly early on in the pandemic. They got pretty sick, as I recall. 

Edited July 28, 2022 by Salacious Kitty

[GeeGolly]

20 minutes ago, Salacious Kitty said:

They even have a chopper for roof rescues. 😂

Or they might be stationed at the hospitals training the staff. 🤣 I wonder if they have medical thingies? 😂

[Cinnabon]

44 minutes ago, Notabug said:

That's because COVID isn't real, it's a figment of the government's imagination.  Just ask Jill.

It will still be the hospital’s fault if Ma gets it, either during or after her hospital stay. She’ll say they’re lying about what it really is. 

[oliviabenson]

On 7/27/2022 at 6:06 PM, Salacious Kitty said:

Does the barndo have a/c? I thought it didn't. It's not as if Dave is some HVAC wizard. We've seen his electrical work! 

I’d bet $ it does. No way Dave is watching his map in the heat.

50 minutes ago, farmgal4 said:

There’s a picture of Jill in Ma’s hospital room, and Jill’s face is next to Ma’s.  Jill has on a yellow disposable mask, but it’s pulled down below her chin.  The thing that blows my mind is that no one appears to care if Ma gets Covid!  

All Jill cares about is that ma is losing her hair 😢🙄

[sagittarius sue]

3 hours ago, libgirl2 said:

That is who he looks like! From what I heard, Wally Cox was quite the ladies man. 

I'm not surprised.  Many years ago David Niven was asked on the Dick Cavett show who was the greatest seducer of women in 1930s Hollywood.  He replied Leslie Howard (aka Ashley Wilkes GWTW).  He had a gentle, poetic manner that did the trick.

I'm sure Phiip Rodrigues has no tricks.

[mythoughtis]

11 hours ago, Absolom said:

I am baffled.  To get into the local hospital to visit, I have to pass a security guard, be wearing a mask, get a health check, show my vaccination card, and get an armband.  They keep a log of visitors in and out and if the computer shows two people in "Maybelle's" room, I don't get an armband, but a seat, and they'll call me when someone leaves.  

That hospital has a process similar to that during non-COVID times especially of limiting visitors.  I'm astounded that both the Rodrigues bunch openly flaunt all rules, but that there is apparently zero control system practiced by the hospital.  

Same here, minus the vaccination card and the armband. You get a visitors pass.  You don’t get past the information desk unless you meet the criteria.  They have set up lanes and barriers to make sure of it. 

Edited July 29, 2022 by mythoughtis

[louannems]

17 hours ago, Salacious Kitty said:

Jill actually acknowledged when her parents got Covid fairly early on in the pandemic. They got pretty sick, as I recall. 

Also Jill’s ex-pastor in WV was on an ECMO machine , due to severe Covid, for a month.  Fools, all of them!

[libgirl2]

49 minutes ago, louannems said:

Also Jill’s ex-pastor in WV was on an ECMO machine , due to severe Covid, for a month.  Fools, all of them!

they don't care. Its just a "flu". My best friend's SIL has had it twice. Never vaccinated, never will be vaccinated. 

Edited July 29, 2022 by libgirl2

[xwordfanatik]

Selfish assholes, like the Caldwells.  This kind of crap makes me furious.  That "no mask mentality" has got to be prolonging the pandemic.  Idiots!

[Cinnabon]

28 minutes ago, xwordfanatik said:

Selfish assholes, like the Caldwells.  This kind of crap makes me furious.  That "no mask mentality" has got to be prolonging the pandemic.  Idiots!

I’ve mostly gotten used to the idiots and do everything I can to avoid them and keep myself safe, but when it comes to basic safety measures in a hospital during a deadly global pandemic, no one should be permitted to engage in behavior that could potentially harm or kill other vulnerable patients. California has it exactly where right. Let the Caldwells and the Rods and all the ignorant, selfish, self righteous assholes go maskless in grocery stores or restaurants. We can turn around and walk away when we see them, but hospitalized patients don’t have that option. 

[oliviabenson]

Jill’s favorite word: donations

[oliviabenson]

Not to Jill. Hair is SEVERELY important 

Only you want 20 people in your hospital room

[xwordfanatik]

26 minutes ago, Cinnabon said:

I’ve mostly gotten used to the idiots and do everything I can to avoid them and keep myself safe, but when it comes to basic safety measures in a hospital during a deadly global pandemic, no one should be permitted to engage in behavior that could potentially harm or kill other vulnerable patients. California has it exactly where right. Let the Caldwells and the Rods and all the ignorant, selfish, self righteous assholes go maskless in grocery stores or restaurants. We can turn around and walk away when we see them, but hospitalized patients don’t have that option. 

Good point.  I'm still wearing a mask in any indoor setting, and many others don't.  You are exactly right about hospitals.  In my WA city, any medical or dental office requires masking.  Hospitals?  Absolutely.  Temperature checks are still being done, too.  Safe, not sorry, is my belief.  

[libgirl2]

15 minutes ago, xwordfanatik said:

Good point.  I'm still wearing a mask in any indoor setting, and many others don't.  You are exactly right about hospitals.  In my WA city, any medical or dental office requires masking.  Hospitals?  Absolutely.  Temperature checks are still being done, too.  Safe, not sorry, is my belief.  

I don't wear a mask indoors unless required but I wear one at any medical office I got to, no questions asked. I would never, EVER in a million years whip off my mask when no one is looking in places that masks are required. I wore mine all the times we were required to as well. 

I  avoid large crowds/gatherings. We are pretty much homebodies. I am vaxxed and double boosted. My workplace is having a staff appreciation party and a very busy family indoor amusement venue that has bowling, games etc.... I am not going. I don't want to be touching things that who knows who touched. We have people here that are still wearing disposable gloves, so I can't imagine any of them going. 

Edited July 29, 2022 by libgirl2

[Boston]

22 hours ago, CalicoKitty said:

Philip reminds me of Wally Cox in this picture (I'm old).

I know who Wally Cox is.  From my parent's generation.  But don't tell anyone.

45 minutes ago, libgirl2 said:

I don't wear a mask indoors unless required but I wear one at any medical office I got to, no questions asked. I would never, EVER in a million years whip off my mask when no one is looking in places that masks are required. I wore mine all the times we were required to as well. 

I  avoid large crowds/gatherings. We are pretty much homebodies. I am vaxxed and double boosted. My workplace is having a staff appreciation party and a very busy family indoor amusement venue that has bowling, games etc.... I am not going. I don't want to be touching things that who knows who touched. We have people here that are still wearing disposable gloves, so I can't imagine any of them going. 

I don't wear a mask when food shopping or any other shopping.  However, when I go to the eye dr. or dentist you have to wear one.  I don't mind.  It's a choice and I am one of the ones who have NEVER gotten Covid - knock on wood.

[libgirl2]

6 minutes ago, Boston said:

I know who Wally Cox is.  From my parent's generation.  But don't tell anyone.

I don't wear a mask when food shopping or any other shopping.  However, when I go to the eye dr. or dentist you have to wear one.  I don't mind.  It's a choice and I am one of the ones who have NEVER gotten Covid - knock on wood.

Yes, I haven't gotten it as far as I know. My husband think he had it March of 2020.  We had gone to a concert and the place was packed (it was a childhood favorite band of his on a farewell tour). After that he was really sick and he never gets sick. He said he never felt like that before. I didn't get sick but if it were Covid, maybe I was asymptomatic? 

[heckkitty]

On 7/28/2022 at 12:05 PM, Absolom said:

I wonder how Jill would deal with that?

PeRsEcUtIoN

[Madtown]

28 minutes ago, Boston said:

I don't wear a mask when food shopping or any other shopping.  However, when I go to the eye dr. or dentist you have to wear one.  I don't mind.  It's a choice and I am one of the ones who have NEVER gotten Covid - knock on wood.

We are fully vaccinated and double boosted. We don't wear masks anywhere except where required, which is basically medical facilities, dentist and eye doctor. We obviously wore them when they were mandatory everywhere and didn't have an issue with it.

We just got our second booster this past Sunday. We went to a drug store pharmacy. We didn't put masks on as there were no signs saying we needed to and none of the staff were wearing them. You can bet though when the pharmacist came out(with one on) to get us, she handed us both masks and I had no issues putting them on.

Which makes me wonder if the Rods enter the hospital with masks on and once they are there awhile, they feel they don't have to wear them anymore and no one there makes them? I would think the second they walk into that hospital with no masks, they tell them they have to put one on. I know they probably fight it, like some posters have mentioned above. I just would never think to go into a place that requires them and think I'm better than everyone else and I don't need to wear one.

We never stayed home much after things started to open up and I never felt scared to go to the grocery store when this all started, since that was about the only thing open. My husband worked every day from day one. We felt going out and about, kept our immune system in check. I know going anywhere, we are surrounded by unvaccinated people and there isn't anything we can do, so we just go on with life. We did our part and we haven't had Covid yet either.

[Boston]

We all make our own choices and should not be judged by anyone.

Did I know that Jen (Coffey) was a stylist?  Nope.  The things you learn.. and hope they are true.

[BradandJanet]

It doesn't look as if Jill's latest attempt at "respecting her mother's privacy"--photos of Ma in the hospital bed surrounded by a bunch of Rod kids and Kevin Foster, who is rubbing "healing" oils on Ma's feet--has moved the Gofundme. It's been stuck at $5490 for several days. 

Has Jill lost her magic, or has she moved to other sources? She has the yearly beach and fine dining vacation in Florida, Phillip's college, Kaylee's wedding, and her own anniversary bash coming up in the next few months. Losing the Midas touch is going to make her mighty cranky. Wonder how much she picked up in KY if that was the cowbells' only stop. 

[Absolom]

13 minutes ago, BradandJanet said:

Has Jill lost her magic, or has she moved to other sources? She has the yearly beach and fine dining vacation in Florida, Phillip's college, Kaylee's wedding, and her own anniversary bash coming up in the next few months. Losing the Midas touch is going to make her mighty cranky. Wonder how much she picked up in KY if that was the cowbells' only stop. 

May her grifting continue to fail and please come to a halt.  That would make the week or month for me.  

[GeeGolly]

10 minutes ago, Absolom said:

May her grifting continue to fail and please come to a halt.  That would make the week or month for me.  

We'd need a new thread. Duggar and Duggar Adjacent Failures: The place to celebrate the fall of Josh and JillR 😁

[Future Cat Lady]

32 minutes ago, BradandJanet said:

It doesn't look as if Jill's latest attempt at "respecting her mother's privacy"--photos of Ma in the hospital bed surrounded by a bunch of Rod kids and Kevin Foster, who is rubbing "healing" oils on Ma's feet--has moved the Gofundme. It's been stuck at $5490 for several days. 

Has Jill lost her magic, or has she moved to other sources? She has the yearly beach and fine dining vacation in Florida, Phillip's college, Kaylee's wedding, and her own anniversary bash coming up in the next few months. Losing the Midas touch is going to make her mighty cranky. Wonder how much she picked up in KY if that was the cowbells' only stop. 

She keeps asking for money to the same audience. Some of them might have decided it was enough. She was probably able to get some cash from their ''concert tour''.

[GeeGolly]

One of the RHWOMC, Lydia, is having her bridal shower tomorrow. She is marrying Trace Bates. It'll be interesting to see if Joy and Abbie go and if there will be any full shots of Joy. She looked very pregnant in a pic of her in her home and also looked to be hiding her mid-section in another video.

[Scarlett45]

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