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7 hours ago, DisneyBoy said:

Not surprised. So much has happened that could have involved Sami already. They've got catching up to do.

The big question is whether or not they'll shoehorn in another round of Ejami. I really hope not.

 

It's short-term again, so probably not.

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Am I the only one not quite jazzed about this?

I've lost all interest in Sami. She's pretty awful most of the time and I don't see what story they can tell with her to put her in a better light.

Lucas was trashed by their last storyline. If they want to have her back to repair some of the damage with him, ok, I'd be into that. I feel like that's needed even. (Is Bryan back?)

But if she's just bringing Sydney on canvas and starting shit with people, I'm not too excited. Nicole's gone, so the obvious drama that could be generated there is out. And it would be nice to know after 30 years that Sami has developed into something new and interesting.

AS can act....but we're waaaaay past Hurricane Sami still being fun, and her partnership with Kate is long past, and the EJami rollercoaster is (hopefully) over and done with...

...so is there any real benefit to her?

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18 minutes ago, DisneyBoy said:

AS can act....but we're waaaaay past Hurricane Sami still being fun, and her partnership with Kate is long past, and the EJami rollercoaster is (hopefully) over and done with...

...so is there any real benefit to her?

Nostalgia? Or the hope she'll bring along a few new viewers from her movies?

I guess the loyal audience has every right to be irritated when AS drops in, wreaks havoc and leaves but I would often drop back in when she did, so 🤷.  As long as Roman and Marlena are on the canvas, it makes sense story-wise that Sami would return occasionally. (I like that about DAYS, the way that they would have family members back for big occasions.)

Was that really the last time she was on, when Lucas went to prison for the abduction?  It's been awhile.  

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4 hours ago, tessaray said:

Nostalgia? Or the hope she'll bring along a few new viewers from her movies?

I guess the loyal audience has every right to be irritated when AS drops in, wreaks havoc and leaves but I would often drop back in when she did, so 🤷.  As long as Roman and Marlena are on the canvas, it makes sense story-wise that Sami would return occasionally. (I like that about DAYS, the way that they would have family members back for big occasions.)

Was that really the last time she was on, when Lucas went to prison for the abduction?  It's been awhile.  

The last time we saw her she found out about EJ/Belle's one night stand/ Chad crashing Lucas/Sami's wedding and told Shawn before she left.  She pulled a Kelly Taylor in the end before she went and chose herself and tbh that's really a fitting ending for Sami as her love life was the least interesting thing about her. 

Sami should've returned for the Ericole/Sloan/EJ baby drama I'm not sure what would bring her back now unless she's ushering off EJ for a HEA(because the show could be ending)

The show doesn't care enough about Lucas to go through all this trouble and this show doesn't really care about EJ beyond Sami when it comes down to it. Nicole gave him a bit of a reprieve this past year but he was a standby for Eric(yet I found Ejole way better). I figured with the writing switch there are probably certain characters they want to write out and EJ seems ripe for the picking tbh.

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It's sad. Dan has done good work. If any DiMeras need to be written out its Stefan and Kristen. Hopefully they keep that in mind.

Is there anything happening to suggest the show is ending though? Besides the usual dread, I mean?

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12 hours ago, DisneyBoy said:

Am I the only one not quite jazzed about this?

I've lost all interest in Sami. She's pretty awful most of the time and I don't see what story they can tell with her to put her in a better light.

I couldn't agree more.🥱

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On 8/6/2024 at 4:57 PM, DisneyBoy said:

The big question is whether or not they'll shoehorn in another round of Ejami. I really hope not.

Dan's version of EJ has had chemistry with pretty much everyone EXCEPT for Sami. Yet I get the annoying feeling this show is leaving Ejami as the end-end game for when this show finally does end, which is why every relationship that EJ's Dan has had been a non-starter.

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8 hours ago, DisneyBoy said:

Is there anything happening to suggest the show is ending though? Besides the usual dread, I mean?

There are always people claiming the show is gonna end every damn day lol.

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I hold out hope - weak though it may be - that the show realizes Sami and Lucas have a longer history and less awful history compared to EJami and go there instead.

Because you're right, method, there was no chemistry between her and Dan.

AS says the storyline she came back for shocked her so...who knows.

 

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12 hours ago, DisneyBoy said:

Is there anything happening to suggest the show is ending though? Besides the usual dread, I mean?

The show is in the Top 10 most watched shows every weekday on Peacock-- usually between numbers 5-10 (yesterday or the day before, it was #5). It falls off the Top 10 during the weekend but comes back on Monday.

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19 hours ago, DisneyBoy said:

It's sad. Dan has done good work. If any DiMeras need to be written out its Stefan and Kristen. Hopefully they keep that in mind.

Is there anything happening to suggest the show is ending though? Besides the usual dread, I mean?

I guess for me it depends on the lawsuit and how that will end up. 

Ken owns the show so he can end it at any time is my concern this time around.

However Days has lasted longer than I expected go figure. Now GH I personally think is ending but they haven't announced it yet.

2 hours ago, brisbydog said:

I remember when she left as Gwen and came back as Theresa so I'm expecting the reverse this time around until told otherwise.

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17 hours ago, CanaryFan98 said:

Now GH I personally think is ending but they haven't announced it yet.

I wouldn't be shocked. Even my mom who is a diehard GH fan in her late 70's seems to barely care about the show anymore. She keeps saying she can't stand Josslyn, lol. 

On 8/8/2024 at 11:35 AM, DisneyBoy said:

I hold out hope - weak though it may be - that the show realizes Sami and Lucas have a longer history and less awful history compared to EJami and go there instead.

Because you're right, method, there was no chemistry between her and Dan.

Yeah, that's kind of the punchline here- Dan's EJ has had really good chemistry with pretty much anyone else he's been paired with aside from Sami. I thought he was good with Belle and Nicole, and I think he has REALLY good hatesex chemistry with Ava, Sloan, and Camila's Gabi. (I'm not sure if he's going to spark with the new Gabi, but I'm positive he's going to try and ruin her for that latest stunt.) Hell, I was even kind of going "Maybe..." during that scene where EJ and Rafe were commiserating on that cliff, and I have NEVER vibed anything homoerotic with Rafe before! LOL Not even during the hot bisexual psycho male nanny storyline. LOL

I just don't think Ejami is ever going to work again without James Scott. I'm sorry, I mean the Whisper Within. Some couples can handle recasting but I don't think this one can.

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6 hours ago, methodwriter85 said:

I wouldn't be shocked. Even my mom who is a diehard GH fan in her late 70's seems to barely care about the show anymore. She keeps saying she can't stand Josslyn, lol. 

Yeah, that's kind of the punchline here- Dan's EJ has had really good chemistry with pretty much anyone else he's been paired with aside from Sami. I thought he was good with Belle and Nicole, and I think he has REALLY good hatesex chemistry with Ava, Sloan, and Camila's Gabi. (I'm not sure if he's going to spark with the new Gabi, but I'm positive he's going to try and ruin her for that latest stunt.) Hell, I was even kind of going "Maybe..." during that scene where EJ and Rafe were commiserating on that cliff, and I have NEVER vibed anything homoerotic with Rafe before! LOL Not even during the hot bisexual psycho male nanny storyline. LOL

I just don't think Ejami is ever going to work again without James Scott. I'm sorry, I mean the Whisper Within. Some couples can handle recasting but I don't think this one can.

I agree about EJ and EJ/Sami. I actually don't hate EJ I just don't want him paired with his rape victim. Plus I actually prefer his non Sami pairings so..

Whatever is causing Sami to return I rather Lucas not be involved beyond their children/grandchildren. I don't need him to be used and tossed aside yet again when they could just invest in another pairing for him. I really liked him with Sheryl (Jordan/Ben's friend) she genuinely wanted him and only him plus they had chemistry. Then they got rid of her and it's been downhill since.

As for GH all those returns and I just don't see those actors coming back unless it was a final send off.

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40 minutes ago, CanaryFan98 said:

I really liked him with Sheryl (Jordan/Ben's friend) she genuinely wanted him and only him plus they had chemistry. Then they got rid of her and it's been downhill since.

I have no recollection of Sheryl! Huh. She sounds great.

I never understood the attempts they made with Lucas dating Anne or Adrienne. Weird pairings.

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6 minutes ago, DisneyBoy said:

I have no recollection of Sheryl! Huh. She sounds great.

I never understood the attempts they made with Lucas dating Anne or Adrienne. Weird pairings.

Jade Harlow played Sheryl she briefly worked at Titan at one point. Even Sami got along with her. Kate asked Lucas to get close to her for business reasons(she didn't trust her but I don't recall why) anyways Lucas was interested in her for real. Kate being the meddling mother she is didn't like it and told Sheryl what happened and had her transferred to Houston. 

I would've loved for her to return with a kid in tow(they slept together before she left town). 

Lucas/Sheryl would've been a lot better than what they threw at Lucas after she left. They could've been conflicted over Ben and Jordan. Clyde could've kidnapped their kid etc. Sheryl could've battled with Kate. I saw potential there but god forbid Lucas have a love interest that only wanted him.

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About Drake...

...is it just me or did he look okay when John came back from Greece...but now looks much thinner just a few short weeks after the return from Greece? Like maybe a month after?

I'm trying to understand if Drake lost a lot of weight as suddenly as he seemed to on TV...or if the shooting schedule meant he lost weight gradually because there was a big break in there somewhere, between the return from Greece and the return from...Chicago was it? Was there a holiday for the cast and crew?

I don't want to think he lost 50+ pounds over what amounts to maybe 18 shooting days :( If it was...2 months, half shooting half on break, that'd be a bit better.

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2 hours ago, DisneyBoy said:

About Drake...

...is it just me or did he look okay when John came back from Greece...but now looks much thinner just a few short weeks after the return from Greece? Like maybe a month after?

I'm trying to understand if Drake lost a lot of weight as suddenly as he seemed to on TV...or if the shooting schedule meant he lost weight gradually because there was a big break in there somewhere, between the return from Greece and the return from...Chicago was it? Was there a holiday for the cast and crew?

I don't want to think he lost 50+ pounds over what amounts to maybe 18 shooting days :( If it was...2 months, half shooting half on break, that'd be a bit better.

I think you're more tuned in to his filming schedule than I am, but I noticed that drastic change the first time he appeared since he "went to Greece".  Something has happened, I don't know what, but John's appearance has definitely been affected.

I so hope, no matter what it is or was, that's he on the mend.

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Oh I'm pretty oblivious to the shooting schedules but sometimes people on here know what's up.

I just couldn't get over how thin his legs were yesterday. Drake's always taken such care of himself. It looks like he's really gone through something.

Are there any recent pictures of him? I mean what we're seeing now was filmed...8 months ago? Maybe he's filled out again?

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Once again, streaming issues (Canada here). DOOL streams on Global/W. (No Peacock). The episode from Friday the 20th has not been posted. The new episodes post within 24 hours in my experience. Anyone know what is going on? I would write to Global but their responses are canned and not useful. Thanks.

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1 hour ago, FrankOFoley said:

Once again, streaming issues (Canada here). DOOL streams on Global/W. (No Peacock). The episode from Friday the 20th has not been posted. The new episodes post within 24 hours in my experience. Anyone know what is going on? I would write to Global but their responses are canned and not useful. Thanks.

I get it through Stack via Prime, they have the Friday episode up. 

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This is weird.

They've just announced the line-up of  confirmed actors attending Day of Days in November.

No Drake :(

 

Some of the Days stars scheduled to attend include Josh Taylor, James Reynolds, Eric Martsolf, Deidre Hall, Robert Scott Wilson, Paul Telfer, Stephen Nichols, Billy Flynn, Galen Gering, Jackée Harry, Raven Bowens, Dan Feuerriegel, Carson Boatman, Elia Cantu, Abigail Klein, Linsey Godfrey, Ashley Puzemis, Leo Howard, Cherie Jimenez, Susan Hayes, Al Calderon, Martha Madison, Brandon Beemer, Stacy Haiduk, Wally Kurth, Judi Evans, Tina Huang, Casey Moss, John Paul Lavoisier, Lamon Archey, Sal Stowers, Kennedy Garcia, Colton Little, Brandon Barash.

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It's very odd that Drake isn't involved I hope it isn't health related.

That being said Casey being a part of this makes me worry what's going to happen with JJ story wise. I don't expect it to be good. Also rather odd that no other Devereaux/Horton is involved(besides Julie/Susan).

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19 hours ago, SanDiegoInExile said:

Lamon Archey and Sal Stowers are in the Horton family tree.

Drake was not listed when the original DoD announcements were made.  So it's not a change from earlier.

You're right I legit forgot about them probably because I tend to see them as Abe's family more than Hortons(even though they are also Hortons).

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21 hours ago, SanDiegoInExile said:

Lamon Archey and Sal Stowers are in the Horton family tree.

Drake was not listed when the original DoD announcements were made.  So it's not a change from earlier.

 

2 hours ago, CanaryFan98 said:

You're right I legit forgot about them probably because I tend to see them as Abe's family more than Hortons(even though they are also Hortons).

Linsey G / Sarah Horton is also listed. Xander is now a Horton via marriage.

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Apparently someone posted last night that Drake has terminal cancer. I couldn’t find the original post but others on Twitter are referencing it. Mostly mad at the poster for revealing it since Drake didn’t want to

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I heard about it last week through the backstage grapevine but I would never have posted it. Especially unconfirmed. But given his appearance lately I believed it.

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18 minutes ago, brisbydog said:

I heard about it last week through the backstage grapevine but I would never have posted it. Especially unconfirmed. But given his appearance lately I believed it.

Yeah that’s what I suspected also this is like when John Aniston was ill the Days family kept it a secret because his daughter asked him too. In this case someone wanted clout.

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What a mess. 

Hearing AS comment that she came back to DOOL for a shocking storyline definitely left me worried he was being written out.

I want so much for this not to be true and for Drake to recover and enjoy his golden years.

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22 minutes ago, DisneyBoy said:

What a mess. 

Hearing AS comment that she came back to DOOL for a shocking storyline definitely left me worried he was being written out.

I want so much for this not to be true and for Drake to recover and enjoy his golden years.

All this time I thought it was Roman because Rex is returning   I didn’t consider John as the possibility 

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Honestly I'd hoped they would retire Roman from the show years ago. He's barely on it and has been stagnant for years as a character.

...this show still has to address Doug's passing, and now they're going to maybe have to write out John or Roman as well?

I knew with an aging cast this was going to happen but it's starting to feel like dominos :(

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27 minutes ago, DisneyBoy said:

Honestly I'd hoped they would retire Roman from the show years ago. He's barely on it and has been stagnant for years as a character.

...this show still has to address Doug's passing, and now they're going to maybe have to write out John or Roman as well?

I knew with an aging cast this was going to happen but it's starting to feel like dominos :(

It won’t get better but soaps not investing in the next generation led to unintended consequences 

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I also assumed they were killing of Roman because Josh wanted to retire. The Rex inclusion through me off, as that made sense for Roman with the returns of Carrie and Sami, but apparently Rex is back for something else, about a month after the John story concludes. This is going to be very  very hard to watch. Drake has been a part of my life since his first episode.

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Oh, my God.  Poor Drake.

John's always been one of my favorite characters, good and bad moments alike.  So to know that we're likely now in the final few months that we're ever going to have with him (and with Drake) . . . it makes me so sad and depressed.

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I started the show with the pawn when I was like 7. My mom told me he was going to be Roman and I being new and a child thought she was brilliant working that out and watched every day to see if she’d be right. 
 

I’ve been in and out on Days and more out than in over the last decade or so but this hits hard.

And I seriously hope the person that leaked this without consent has the day they deserve. 

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Not shocked about Drake. He’s been looking thin and frail for awhile now. I just hope that, after he passes, they don’t reunite Marlena with Roman. I’d rather they bring on a new love interest and start from scratch.

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31 minutes ago, SouthernChick said:

Not shocked about Drake. He’s been looking thin and frail for awhile now. I just hope that, after he passes, they don’t reunite Marlena with Roman. I’d rather they bring on a new love interest and start from scratch.

Isn’t he still with Kate? I don’t see them breaking up tbh. I would figure they would just have Marlena do what Maggie does now and deal with the drama surrounding her children and grandchildren. 

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1 minute ago, CanaryFan98 said:

Isn’t he still with Kate? I don’t see them breaking up tbh. I would figure they would just have Marlena do what Maggie does now and deal with the drama surrounding her children and grandchildren. 

That would be nice, but Marlena has no more children in town other than Brady. I guess she could become more of a presence in his life. 

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32 minutes ago, SouthernChick said:

Not shocked about Drake. He’s been looking thin and frail for awhile now. I just hope that, after he passes, they don’t reunite Marlena with Roman. I’d rather they bring on a new love interest and start from scratch.

I actually think Drake's critical health condition is far more important than Marlena's love life. 

If Maggie could survive a life without Victor, I am sure Marlena could do the same without John.

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I'm so sad to hear this.  It was apparent when he came back after this last extended absence that something had been wrong but I just expected it to be something he'd had and gotten over.  There's something about Drake, some sort of essential goodness that has always come across on screen.....I'm just so sad to hear this.

And angry that someone would be so thoughtless as to leak it when he didn't want it known.  What a shitty thing to do.

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I don't know. I have a different take on the "leak". But first let me say, that I don't condone people posting anyone's personal information

But that said, everybody on this forum (as well as other forums), and other social media have all been speculating about Drake's condition. Everything from long covid to kidney failure.

So is it better to continue to speculate or better to know the truth rather than having to worry that a beloved character might be written out simply for a storyline? At least now we know...and if/when that time comes, it won't shock or surprise us. 

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