Spoilers With Speculation

[catrox14]

So Dean is driving a jeep in the AU??

[catrox14]

I'm leaning towards Ellen and Jo at this point given Jim's tweet...

[Morrigan2575]

6 minutes ago, catrox14 said:

I'm leaning towards Ellen and Jo at this point given Jim's tweet...

Aww, that would be really nice. I love Ellen.

[Casseiopeia]

23 minutes ago, catrox14 said:

So Dean is driving a jeep in the AU??

That would explain why Jared was wearing the camo jacket...

 

[catrox14]

[SueB]

Wait... why is no one talking about the "tentacle porn" spoiler Jensen gave on The Talk?  Is he serious?  How does he even know that's a thing?  I only know that's a thing because Jules from the Superwiki loves to joke about it.  

Tentacle porn.  It's like all of Robbie's Fan Fiction is going to come true.  Astronauts, Dean as a woman (briefly).... there could be many interesting stories here now that we have "tentacles". 

[Aeryn13]

So they are in the apocalypse world in ep 22? I figured at some point AU!Michael would cross over and bring the threat to our world. I mean, apoca-world is kinda shot to hell already.

Clip from what they have shown in The Talk  here

All hail to Dean being shown as competent and involved in the case via research. His reaction makes it pretty clear that he didn`t prank-tape Sam`s shirt. At some point they might wonder about that. Don`t expect them to jump right to "Trickster" aka their good old buddie Gabe but IMO this is the set-up for it. Apparently he can still work some powers, even from imprisonment.

[ILoveReading]

1 hour ago, Aeryn13 said:

All hail to Dean being shown as competent and involved in the case via research. His reaction makes it pretty clear that he didn`t prank-tape Sam`s shirt. At some point they might wonder about that. Don`t expect them to jump right to "Trickster" aka their good old buddie Gabe but IMO this is the set-up for it. Apparently he can still work some powers, even from imprisonment.

Let's hope this continues. 

It's hard to believe Perez has been the most competent Dean writer so far.

I wonder if Gabriel is the prankster.  One of the notes apparently says Ass Face.  lol The notes don't look like Dean's handwriting. 

[gonzosgirrl]

15 minutes ago, ILoveReading said:

Let's hope this continues. 

It's hard to believe Perez has been the most competent Dean writer so far.

I wonder if Gabriel is the prankster.  One of the notes apparently says Ass Face.  lol The notes don't look like Dean's handwriting. 

Perez? Ugh. Maybe some of the, uhh, feedback he got on Twitter over his previous writing for Dean sunk in. I love that little clip and I almost doubted my own eyes when I saw it yesterday, but I'll reserve my praise for Perez until I see it in context and what comes before/after. I don't trust him even a little bit.

[Bobcatkitten]

I think Dean did prank Sam's shirt but is just distracted because of his discovery. And yes, they don't know Lucifer is ruling heaven with Sister Jo so that is going to be a real shock I think. 

[Myrelle]

On ‎3‎/‎31‎/‎2018 at 8:47 PM, ILoveReading said:

I agree.  I don't think the writers planned anything.  Nothing about his season comes across as a coherent plot line.  Everything feels thrown together. 

This new character seems to be extra incentive due to it being a contract season. 

IA about the new character being extra incentive and I think their plan is the usual one, at this point in the series-throw everything against the wall at the end of the season and see what sticks with the viewers; and as far as that goes, some things/characters they already know the viewers(in general) love-Gabriel is likely one of these, IMO. My guess is that he's the one who's going to contribute the archangel grace for the spell and that will be his second redemption.

On ‎4‎/‎1‎/‎2018 at 3:49 AM, Wayward Son said:

Apparently there was a 13x22 scene between Dean and Cas, which was made private. They put up curtains and other things to block Misha and Ackles from sight. 

 

Could this be the moment Dean says yes to Michael (or whoever it is)? 

I'm really interested in this and wondering when they are going to open the rift via the spell.

I highly doubt that this the moment when Dean takes on the new character. This is probably an emo scene, IMO. Maybe they discuss it, though.

I'm trying to figure out the order of events from the clips and hints we've gotten so far. If the Seal of Solomon is an ingredient to the spell, then they still haven't opened the rift by the beginning of twenty-two, but it seems like the Js might have scenes in the AU in that episode, if JP wearing the camie and Jensen sitting in the jeep means anything, leading me to think that they might open it in this episode and that AUMichael might come through at the end of that one, leaving twenty three as the episode that sees Dean take on his new persona.

I guess the big question for me is are they going to end AUMichael this season or carry him over into next season. I've always thought that they would end him in 23, but maybe not.

I DO think that having Jensen play a completely different character from Dean would afford them more opportunities to film the brothers separated, thus giving the Js the time off they both want. I'm sure that won't go over well in some segments of the fandom, but if the show is going to go on, I would think that they would have to do this a bit more than those segments would want and it can be done in a decent storyboard manner if they would just do it similarly to how they did DemonDean, but by just not having Sam catch up with "Dean" as quickly and easily.

[catrox14]

9 hours ago, SueB said:

Wait... why is no one talking about the "tentacle porn" spoiler Jensen gave on The Talk?  Is he serious?  How does he even know that's a thing?  I only know that's a thing because Jules from the Superwiki loves to joke about it.  

Tentacle porn.  It's like all of Robbie's Fan Fiction is going to come true.  Astronauts, Dean as a woman (briefly).... there could be many interesting stories here now that we have "tentacles". 

I don't think Dean watching or reading porn, of any flavor, is surprising.  And Dean is already pansexual omisexual given his tryst with Anna so...if he was with a creature with tentacles that is maybe kind of humanoid, he'd do it, I think. LOL. I bet it's more like Dean found some old skool illustrated porn in the bunker when he was looking for Seal of Solomon clues. 

 

I am far more curious about the scene between Dean and Cas that was filmed in private. That really makes me wonder what is so shocking or such a big secret, they did it out of the eyes of the crew or limited crew anyway. No, I don't think it's a Destiel thing (much to my chagrin).  I think it's something much more serious, but I can't imagine why it would need to be private unless one kills the other and they don't want that getting out.  Or Castiel possesses Dean and they want to keep that a secret.

Edited April 3, 2018 by catrox14
decided pansexual is the wrong term going with omnisexual

[Bobcatkitten]

Sometimes they close off set when it's a really emotional scene. Maybe that's why?

[Aeryn13]

The summary for this upcoming episode said they find some angry god in the new bunker. Very likely that thing is gonna have some sort of tentacle thing going on. It`s probably a throwaway moment of some kind.   

They needed 4 ingredients for the spell, they already have one. This one hunt involves item 3, the "Seal of Solomon". The promo already gave away their success via the line "now all we need is an archangel`s grace". That`s where Gabe is gonna come in episode 18. 

If they are in the AU world by ep 22, obviously the rift-opening worked. I`d say that happens somehow in episde 21, maybe towards the end of it. 

Maybe for the Finale the threat is that AU!Michael crossed over after all. At least HIM taking over this world`s heaven would make sense because he has the freaking power to back that up. If the angels are stupid enough to bow down to a weak Lucifer, they should tremble before AU!Mike. 

Then that could facilitate them seeking out this world`s Michael.   

[companionenvy]

44 minutes ago, catrox14 said:

And Dean is already pansexual given his tryst with Anna so.

I know this is a very minor point, and maybe you were joking, but I don't think this makes Dean pansexual. Anna was in the body of a human female at the time. 

[catrox14]

24 minutes ago, scribe95 said:

Sometimes they close off set when it's a really emotional scene. Maybe that's why?

I can't imagine what would be so emotional between Dean and Cas that we haven't run across before in whole or in part. They've said emotional goodbyes and had emotional greetings. In Hunteri Heroici they had a pretty emotional scene.  Cas beat the crap out of Dean in s5 and s8 and both were highly emotionally charged on top of violent and conversely MoC!Dean beat the crap out of Cas in s10 in another highly emotionally charged scene. I didn't read anything about those sets being closed or anything behind black curtains.

 It's pretty intriguing, if true.

[Bobcatkitten]

2 minutes ago, catrox14 said:

I can't imagine what would be so emotional between Dean and Cas that we haven't run across before in whole or in part. They've said emotional goodbyes and had emotional greetings. In Hunteri Heroici they had a pretty emotional scene.  Cas beat the crap out of Dean in s5 and s8 and both were highly emotionally charged on top of violent and conversely MoC!Dean beat the crap out of Cas in s10 in another highly emotionally charged scene. I didn't read anything about those sets being closed or anything behind black curtains.

 It's pretty intriguing, if true.

I think the majority of those scenes were in rooms/buildings though. Wasn't this one outside on location? Maybe the actors just needed quiet. I'm just spitballing.

[Jonesy]

10 hours ago, catrox14 said:

I'm leaning towards Ellen and Jo at this point given Jim's tweet...

To wildly speculate on Jim's tweet--the most obvious meaning is Jim is reunited with his set family of the J's and maybe Misha...he recently has lamented he has missed filming with those 3 guys.

BUT the wild spec is this--JDM is alive as John(our John) in AU land...he has been missing since Yellow eyes when he disappeared.  They couldn't find him in Heaven--I know they didn't find Mary there but she still was in Heaven BUT that doesn't mean John is too.

I mean they could always make up some funky reason that John got side tracked to AU land.  Then the family reunion would be John, Mary and the boys.  And maybe the curtained off scene with Jensen and Misha also has JDM in it.  Add the instagram comment Matt Cohen made after Jared announced a season 14--Matt basically said I can't wait to be there next year with hashtags #JW, #M.

Now maybe Matt is joking because he knows Michael and John Winchester are back but neither played by him but instead Jensen and JDM.   He's in the circle of buds so he may know who is coming back.  Also remember how Dabb and Singer talking about how hard it is to get all these working actors together...and who has been the busiest and hardest to get...JDM.  And for the last couple of episodes JDM is not filming TWD, so he very well have some time in his schedule.  And Remember at a TWD con in Germany recently he PROMISED John will be back.

So the likely thing is Jim is talking about reuniting with the J's and maybe M--but i'll throw JDM speculation as possible...if it happens you heard it as possible here.  Even if some of these reasons may be off, a few of them may possibly be correct and point to JDM.

[catrox14]

1 hour ago, companionenvy said:

I know this is a very minor point, and maybe you were joking, but I don't think this makes Dean pansexual. Anna was in the body of a human female at the time. 

 Is this a joke question? But in case it's not, no I'm not joking. 

Dean had sex with her after she told them she was an angel, grace or not, she saw herself as an angel. Dean saw her as an angel. So he was crossing species lines and Anna just happened to be in a human vessel without her grace. I have to ask, are you suggesting that if Anna had gotten her grace back before she propositioned Dean that he wouldn't have done it?

Demon!Dean was a different species as a demon in his own meatsuit and he had sex with human Ann. So for me that makes Dean and Demon!Dean both pansexual.omnisexual  It's not a bad thing to be pansexual omnisexual. And  no I'm not saying that for Destiel reasons before anyone starts reading into my comments something I'm not saying, nor intending to imply nor think.  

Edited April 3, 2018 by catrox14
decided that pansexual is not the right term here. changing to omnisexual

[catrox14]

16 minutes ago, Jakes said:

dd the instagram comment Matt Cohen made after Jared announced a season 14--Matt basically said I can't wait to be there next year with hashtags #JW, #M.

I'm not reading anything into his tweets as Matt mentions John from time to time in his tweets. And I don't think he would spoil his return via a hashtag. Didn't he get into a lot of hot water over because he tweeted a pic of him as Lucifer!John in s11 (he was Lucifer right). Matt is still doing cons so who knows what he really meant.

[SueB]

Hmmmm.... I'd say an outdoor scene that was blocked for privacy is probably done either for something mundane like noise or something intriguing like plot.  The key here is that it's outside.  That's not a place you do something radical unless you are really short on time (as part of the plot).  Cas laying hands on Dean's head would be an example of something we would spend HOURS debating in terms of meaning.  Is it a healing, is he transferring his grace?  If they had their mouths open for VFx to put in a grace transfer, we'd be able to sort out that motion immediately.  Although intriguing, if it was something intimate, I'd expect it indoors ... and I just think that's less likey given we have a spoiler about Dean playing a different character.  Maybe Cas is doing something to stabilize hm or connect him to Jack.  IDK.  But I'd vote for a 'supernatural something' moment that would be a dead give-away if we saw the motion.  

[catrox14]

25 minutes ago, scribe95 said:

I think the majority of those scenes were in rooms/buildings though. Wasn't this one outside on location? Maybe the actors just needed quiet. I'm just spitballing.

I have no idea. I'm only going by @Wayward Son 's mention of it. I don't know anything else about it.

Maybe they are doing a scene in the Empty? 

[Castiels Cat]

1 hour ago, catrox14 said:

I don't think Dean watching or reading porn, of any flavor, is surprising.  And Dean is already pansexual given his tryst with Anna so...if he was with a creature with tentacles that is maybe kind of humanoid, he'd do it, I think. LOL. I bet it's more like Dean found some old skool illustrated porn in the bunker when he was looking for Seal of Solomon clues. 

 

I am far more curious about the scene between Dean and Cas that was filmed in private. That really makes me wonder what is so shocking or such a big secret, they did it out of the eyes of the crew or limited crew anyway. No, I don't think it's a Destiel thing (much to my chagrin).  I think it's something much more serious, but I can't imagine why it would need to be private unless one kills the other and they don't want that getting out.  Or Castiel possesses Dean and they want to keep that a secret.

Isn't Dean's hentai fetish already canon.

[Jonesy]

9 minutes ago, catrox14 said:

I'm not reading anything into his tweets as Matt mentions John from time to time in his tweets. And I don't think he would spoil his return via a hashtag. Didn't he get into a lot of hot water over because he tweeted a pic of him as Lucifer!John in s11 (he was Lucifer right). Matt is still doing cons so who knows what he really meant.

That's why I mentioned not all the points have to be correct for this possibility to be possible.  So Matt's comment might be some oblique thing or not--it's not the main string on things.  That said I still think Jim means reuniting with the guys with an OUTSIDE chance of JDM.

Edited April 3, 2018 by Jakes

[Castiels Cat]

15 hours ago, MysteryGuest said:

I'll be annoyed with AU Dean because they specifically said that the AU is the world where Sam and Dean never were born.  I'm pretty much resigned to it being Michael, even though that wouldn't be my choice.  And if we're getting Michael back, what about Adam?  Isn't he stuck in the cage with Michael?  If they're bringing back every character ever on the show, it would be nice to give Adam a decent ending.

I'll be surprised if JDM comes back this season.  I know he said he'd be back before the end of the show, and Jensen said the same thing a few years ago.  I just don't see how they bring him back this year, unless it's as someone stated above, and it's a way to resolve the Mary character.  She can go back to heaven with John.  

As far as beloved characters go, I'd say Charlie, Ellen, maybe Jo.  I'd say Rufus, but I think he's already dead in the AU as well as in our world, so I'm not sure that would work.  

I do not get the love for Adam. He was dead before they met him. He was resurrected and chose his mother over the brothers he never knew. Dean chose Sam over him.  

There is no relationship. No bond. Nothing.  Their father never even introduced them.

[catrox14]

23 minutes ago, Jakes said:

So the likely thing is Jim is talking about reuniting with the J's and maybe M--bu

But Mary and John wouldn't be family for Bobby. He and John didn't get along. 

To me there is someone else in the mix that was family in the show and that was Ellen in the titanic episode. John being alive in the AU as John would be surprising because that makes Dean and Sam never being born kin

3 minutes ago, SueB said:

Cas laying hands on Dean's head would be an example of something we would spend HOURS debating in terms of meaning.  Is it

Why? What would be the debate?  Are you referring to Destiel readings? If you are, as the resident out Destiel shipper, I wouldn't read it as Destiel. Cas put his hand on Dean's face to heal him in s8, Dean held Cas' face in his two hands after April killed him. He could even be touching Dean's face or vice versa in a heavy emotional scene. Hell, Cas could plant a kiss on Dean's cheek and I still won't call it canon Destiel because I'm certain the reasons won't be as a declaration of romantic love( much to my chagrin).

11 minutes ago, Castiels Cat said:

Isn't Dean's hentai fetish already canon.

It is.

Just now, Castiels Cat said:

I do not get the love for Adam. He was dead before they met him. He was resurrected and chose his mother over the brothers he never knew. Dean chose Sam over him.  

There is no relationship. No bond. Nothing.  Their father never even introduced them.

I think it's a faction of fans that like to point to Adam as an example of why Dean and Sam are shitty people (they aren't) because they left Adam behind. Dean did ask for both so he wasn't completely callous to him. Dean and Sam tried to bond with him a little bit but it was pointless because it was never really Adam.

So, yeah I'm with you on the Adam thing.

[gonzosgirrl]

27 minutes ago, catrox14 said:

 Is this a joke question? But in case it's not, no I'm not joking. 

Dean had sex with her after she told them she was an angel, grace or not, she saw herself as an angel. Dean saw her as an angel. So he was crossing species lines and Anna just happened to be in a human vessel without her grace. I have to ask, are you suggesting that if Anna had gotten her grace back before she propositioned Dean that he wouldn't have done it?

Demon!Dean was a different species as a demon in his own meatsuit and he had sex with human Ann. So for me that makes Dean and Demon!Dean both pansexual.  It's not a bad thing to be pansexual and no I'm not saying that for Destiel reasons before anyone starts reading into my comments something I'm not saying, nor intending to imply nor think.  

So does that also make Sam pansexual vis a vis having sex with Ruby? Or a necrophiliac? I don't care one way or another, but I don't know if I'd categorize their sexuality from a one-off situation. And in SPN terms, I believe they each saw them as humans, if intent counts at all.

[catrox14]

1 hour ago, gonzosgirrl said:

So does that also make Sam pansexual vis a vis having sex with Ruby? Or a necrophiliac? I don't care one way or another, but I don't know if I'd categorize their sexuality from a one-off situation. And in SPN terms, I believe they each saw them as humans, if intent counts at all.

Absolutely yes. Sam knew it was a demon. But that's not the first time I decided Sam was pansexual. OmnisexualHe was with Madison the werewolf knowing she was a werewolf.

For me, they each knew they were having sex with entities in meatsuits in the cases of Anna and Ruby.   In the case of Ruby I think we were supposed to be horrified because she's a demon.

As to them seeing them as humans when they had sex with them, I don't think that was established that is why they did it.  If it is, that's a whole other awful kettle of fish about Dean and Sam fucking what they hate, or don't respect but will use for sex anyway? Eeep. I don't think that's what the show was going for.

Edited April 3, 2018 by catrox14
omnisexual is a better term than pansexual since I'm talking about interspecies sex.

[gonzosgirrl]

4 minutes ago, catrox14 said:

Absolutely yes. Sam knew it was a demon. But that's not the first time I decided Sam was pansexual. He was with Madison the werewolf knowing she was a werewolf.

For me, they each knew they were having sex with entities in meatsuits in the cases of Anna and Ruby.   In the case of Ruby I think we were supposed to be horrified because she's a demon.

As to them seeing them as humans when they had sex with them, I don't think that was established that is why they did it.  If it is, that's a whole other awful kettle of fish about Dean and Sam fucking what they hate, or don't respect but will use for sex anyway? Eeep. I don't think that's what the show was going for.

If that's the case then, they were both 'using' the bodies of the host to have sex with the entity inside it. One of them was dead (Ruby) and I don't know what Anna's body would be considered. It's creepy either way. I never looked at it that way and I don't wish to ever again, lol.

I think they were both attracted to the human forms and personalities of the women, so that is how I see the unions. I am admittedly not well versed on the spectrums of sexuality, but if a man is attracted to a trans woman, even if she is still physically male but presents as a woman, does that make him gay?

Edited April 3, 2018 by gonzosgirrl

[Jonesy]

33 minutes ago, catrox14 said:

But Mary and John wouldn't be family for Bobby. He and John didn't get along. 

To me there is someone else in the mix that was family in the show and that was Ellen in the titanic episode. John being alive in the AU as John would be surprising because that makes Dean and Sam never being born kin

Why? What would be the debate?  Are you referring to Destiel readings? If you are, as the resident out Destiel shipper, I wouldn't read it as Destiel. Cas put his hand on Dean's face to heal him in s8, Dean held Cas' face in his two hands after April killed him. He could even be touching Dean's face or vice versa in a heavy emotional scene. Hell, Cas could plant a kiss on Dean's cheek and I still won't call it canon Destiel because I'm certain the reasons won't be as a declaration of romantic love( much to my chagrin).

It is.

I think it's a faction of fans that like to point to Adam as an example of why Dean and Sam are shitty people (they aren't) because they left Adam behind. Dean did ask for both so he wasn't completely callous to him. Dean and Sam tried to bond with him a little bit but it was pointless because it was never really Adam.

So, yeah I'm with you on the Adam thing.

Still think he's talking the J's and maybe M but Jim's tweet about family doesn't have to mean including him...though he is part of the family that doesn't end in blood.

Edited April 3, 2018 by Jakes

[Myrelle]

2 hours ago, Aeryn13 said:

They needed 4 ingredients for the spell, they already have one. This one hunt involves item 3, the "Seal of Solomon". The promo already gave away their success via the line "now all we need is an archangel`s grace". That`s where Gabe is gonna come in episode 18. 

Oh, so the scene from The Talk is from this week's episode, then?

That makes more sense.

Edited April 3, 2018 by Myrelle

[catrox14]

Just now, gonzosgirrl said:

If that's the case then, they were both 'using' the bodies of the host to have sex with the entity inside it. One of them was dead (Ruby) and I don't know what Anna's body would be considered. It's creepy either way. I never looked at it that way and I don't wish to ever again, lol.

It's a spectrum.

I don't think Sam nor Dean saw Ruby, Madison or Anna as JUST a human meatsuit and were ignoring what they really were, nor that they looked past them to the meatsuits because they were horny. I don't think the show thought about it other than to be shocking to an extent.

Dean thought angels were dicks but he liked Anna, and later Cas (no I'm not saying romantically, canonically)  but as entities he could trust. Plus sometimes Dean is a wild boy who will go with twins and triplets, will wear his partner's panties  because they wanted him to do it, watches hentai and anime porn.  So maybe with Anna he was like, well okay the opportunity has presented itself so he takes it and was just enjoying the moment without caring that she was an angel but also not ignoring it either. That doesn't change that he knew she was an angel in a meatsuit and he opted in.

Sam is more complicated. Madison, was a werewolf, who is human and monster. But I don't think Sam was differentiating that because he just liked her and her being a werewolf was not an aversion to him really given he was attracted to her before he knew she was a werewolf and was attracted to her after he knew. Sam being with Ruby was kind of an aversion to himself because she's a demon but he wanted her and said yes for reasons. Maybe the demon blood made him do it. Who knows.   Hate sex?

Dean being with a demon would have been the most shocking thing in the first several seasons because he loathes them, thinks they are the literal worst.

Maybe it's as simple as their little heads won out over their big heads.

Maybe they would do it again, maybe they wouldn't. I won't be surprised if Dean has a tryst with Sister Jo before all is said and done. If he does, is that because he just likes her, like he liked Anna?

[catrox14]

2 hours ago, gonzosgirrl said:

on the spectrums of sexuality, but if a man is attracted to a trans woman, even if she is still physically male but presents as a woman, does that make him gay?

Edited 30 minutes

I don't know.  I don't personally see the correlation to transgender persons myself. Maybe pansexuality is the wrong term for interspeies sex in this show? Maybe omnisexual is a better term for it? IIll go with that instead and edit my comments accordingly.

Taking the rest of my comments to the sexuality thread, but to be clear I am not suggesting that Dean or Sam are straight or gay or bi or whatever.

I was talking about Dean having sex with something with tentacles in humanoid form. Honestly, this is getting way out of the context of my point about the tentacle porn.  

Edited April 3, 2018 by catrox14

[Wayward Son]

1 hour ago, catrox14 said:

I don't know.  I don't personally see the correlation to transgender persons myself. Maybe pansexuality is the wrong term for interspeies sex in this show? Maybe omnisexual is a better term for it? IIll go with that instead and edit my comments accordingly.

Responded in the Sexuality thread :)

[ILoveReading]

http://www.tvguide.com/news/supernatural-jack-lucifer-first-meeting/

This sounds more of the one note Jack angsting for 2.5 seconds before he decides he's loyal to the Winchesters.

[Lemuria]

Quote

Anna as JUST a human meatsuit

But Anna wasn't any kind of a "meatsuit."  She was born physically as a human, and her grace was sitting in a tree.  She really wasn't an angel until she got it back and that was after she and Dean used poor Baby as a motel.

[MysteryGuest]

7 hours ago, Castiels Cat said:

I do not get the love for Adam. He was dead before they met him. He was resurrected and chose his mother over the brothers he never knew. Dean chose Sam over him.  

There is no relationship. No bond. Nothing.  Their father never even introduced them.

No Adam love, specifically, on my end.  It just feels like a loose end to me, and especially if they're going to let Michael out of the cage.  Mainly just a curiosity.  And no, I don't blame either Sam or Dean for what happened.  They would have saved him if they could have, but the angels weren't having it.

2 hours ago, Lemuria said:

But Anna wasn't any kind of a "meatsuit."  She was born physically as a human, and her grace was sitting in a tree.  She really wasn't an angel until she got it back and that was after she and Dean used poor Baby as a motel.

Agreed.  Anna fell to earth and was "re-born" as an infant (not sure how that worked, exactly).  She wasn't possessing someone.  I can't see Dean having tentacle sex, but then what do I know.  I thought their comment on The Talk was just a joke.

Edited April 3, 2018 by MysteryGuest

[ILoveReading]

 

May sweeps Score card (beware there are potential spoilers for shows other than Supernatural).  Ones I think could apply to Supernatrual.

Characters kissing or saying I love your for the first time- Dean and Cas. (No I don;t really believe it but its for @catrox14

Possible fatality/fate left up in the air- Dean

Fatality- Lucifer (hopefully), Michael, Asmodeus, Dean, maybe. 

Ressurections/Big returns- Bobby.  I think he's going to end up in our world. 

[SueB]

I was mostly surprised Jensen would SAY the words ‘tentacle porn’ on TV.  I mean.... I’m clearly less worldly than some but that’s kinda naughty isn’t it?   Just me then?  Never mind.  And this is not a criticism of Jensen, I’m just stunned that phrase has made it into talk show TV conversation.  

[Wayward Son]

I looked at the spoiler sheet again and there has been some updates re the curtained off scene. 

 

- Jared is also in the scene rather than just Ackles and Misha. So if you hadn’t already time to rule out a Destiel kiss LOL. 

- It takes place in a Gas N Sip of the Apocalypse World so that confirms the Winchester’s and Castiel have crossed over by then. 

 

My personal thoughts / Spec on the different possibilities mentioned so far: 

 

• A Destiel kiss - I had already ruled that out (a Dean / Cas romance will NEVER happen), but the update Sam is there too rules it out x 100. 

 

• A random ‘emo’ scene (TM @Aeryn13) seems unlikely to me also. Those are common enough on this show I see no need for trying to keep one a secret 

 

• To hide a fourth party such as JDM - A lot more likely than the options listed above. I don’t think this is it personally, but the secrecy around the scene would make a lot of sense. 

 

• To hide a major Plot line - This is the option I see as most likely. Personally, I think this is going to be the scene where Dean says yes to Michael. 

[ILoveReading]

 

Longer version of the clip they showed on The Talk.

I see Dean is back to mispronouncing words over two syllables.   Sam just indulge your brother for once.

[catrox14]

55 minutes ago, Wayward Son said:

Jared is also in the scene rather than just Ackles and Misha. So if you hadn’t already time to rule out a Destiel kiss LOL. 

Why? Sam might be the one that tells those idiots in love just to admit it to each before they both die.

[Aeryn13]

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Longer version of the clip they showed on The Talk.

I see Dean is back to mispronouncing words over two syllables. 

Yeah, I saw that and thought "okay, now I recognize Perez` writing again." Well, the shorter clip was fun while it lasted.

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[catrox14]

10 minutes ago, ILoveReading said:

 

Longer version of the clip they showed on The Talk.

I see Dean is back to mispronouncing words over two syllables.   Sam just indulge your brother for once.

Hey, it's LATIN so only Sam gets to pronounce it correctly. It's a wonder Dean can even do the Exorcism recitation these days. Ugh. It's absurd. Also, Jared sounds really sick.

[Bobcatkitten]

He's still saying Jinkies!

[catrox14]

3 minutes ago, scribe95 said:

He's still saying Jinkies!

I hope he never stops. And adds in the Ruh Roh and Zoinks when necessary

[Wayward Son]

25 minutes ago, catrox14 said:

Why? Sam might be the one that tells those idiots in love just to admit it to each before they both die.

LOL if the one in a billion happened (I think it’s even less likely than that tbh) and Destiel kissed I think they’d get the scene to themselves.

 

But either way Sam or no Sam the curtains aren’t for a Destiel kiss. Ackles has made it clear numerous times it’ll never happen and if they were ever gonna go there they’d have done it sometime within the last ten seasons haha. 

 

I’m still going with Dean says yes to AU Michael here.

Edited April 4, 2018 by Wayward Son

[gonzosgirrl]

34 minutes ago, Aeryn13 said:

Yeah, I saw that and thought "okay, now I recognize Perez` writing again." Well, the shorter clip was fun while it lasted.

 

"I knew it!" - tm Chandler Bing. 

Guess I won't retire my #screwyou hashtag just yet. 

And Sam continues to be a buzzkill. Do the writers think this is endearing? They must. As long as it's directed at Dean anyway. 

Edited April 4, 2018 by gonzosgirrl

[Casseiopeia]

1 hour ago, Wayward Son said:

I looked at the spoiler sheet again and there has been some updates re the curtained off scene. 

 

- Jared is also in the scene rather than just Ackles and Misha. So if you hadn’t already time to rule out a Destiel kiss LOL. 

- It takes place in a Gas N Sip of the Apocalypse World so that confirms the Winchester’s and Castiel have crossed over by then. 

 

My personal thoughts / Spec on the different possibilities mentioned so far: 

 

• A Destiel kiss - I had already ruled that out (a Dean / Cas romance will NEVER happen), but the update Sam is there too rules it out x 100. 

 

• A random ‘emo’ scene (TM @Aeryn13) seems unlikely to me also. Those are common enough on this show I see no need for trying to keep one a secret 

 

• To hide a fourth party such as JDM - A lot more likely than the options listed above. I don’t think this is it personally, but the secrecy around the scene would make a lot of sense. 

 

• To hide a major Plot line - This is the option I see as most likely. Personally, I think this is going to be the scene where Dean says yes to Michael. 

Funny enough I watched an old con video last night where Jensen talked about how Kim Manners blocked off the set so that it was just Jensen and Jared in the room when Dean was talking to dead Sam.  Jensen said he and Kim knew it was going to be a very difficult scene to perform so they didn't want 10 or 12 crew members standing around staring at him.  Maybe it is going to be a very difficult emotional scene and that is why it was blocked off.

[catrox14]

9 minutes ago, gonzosgirrl said:

And Sam continues to be a buzzkill. Do the writers think this is endearing? They must. As long as it's directed at Dean anyway. 

It's the Clif's Notes Bad School of Writing. It minimizes both characters and it's terrible.