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[ZettaK]

Also, the IG account of the above link had this. Lala is in negotiations to join The Valley.

Edited May 13 by ZettaK

[peachmangosteen]

I read somewhere else that a lot of Bravo people apparently take the show off their instagrams during the off season so it might just be more of that.

Edited May 13 by peachmangosteen

[ZettaK]

Tom Schwartz and James Kennedy removed Bravo/VPR, as well from their IG. 

Edited May 14 by ZettaK

[Gharlane]

On 5/11/2024 at 2:19 PM, RealHousewife said:

Shared with people other than Rachel?

I'm not a lawyer, but I would think sending it to anyone would count. I'm sure there's an online resource for being sure. 🕵️‍♂️

 

2 hours ago, Lassus said:

I would be legitimately shocked.  It has ratings and money and eyes.  Perhaps I'm massively wrong, but it seems to make very little sense to cancel the show at this point.

Do we have the numbers for viewership this season? 🤔

 

2 hours ago, ZettaK said:

I thought that the finale was a series finale after I saw the retrospective at the end.

I got the same impression, but they did the same last season, before Scandoval broke. 🤷‍♂️

 

2 hours ago, ZettaK said:

Oh, well. Most of them can join The Valley. 

I have no doubt that's where they'll be when this show is over.

[Lassus]

1 hour ago, Gharlane said:

Do we have the numbers for viewership this season? 🤔

My google-fu is insufficient for this task, but something tells me somewhere in the Bravo reddit universe there is something reliable sourced.

[lasu]

I think Arianna is telling the truth in her sworn statement.  I think she saw it, recorded in on her own phone, sent it to Rachel, and then confronted Tom who took her phone and deleted it.  I think this is true because with this timeline, she really didn't have a chance to send it to anyone else.  And it's an easy lie to prove or disprove, and she certainly can't count on Tom to back up her timeline if it's fake.  It just doesn't make sense to lie.

If what she did is illegal, I hope the main thing that comes out of it is a PSA.  Rachel hasn't really been hurt by it, except for I'm sure being humiliated that Arianna saw it, but that would have happened even if Arianna hadn't recorded it.  I don't think Arianna should be punished for something she did in the heat of the moment that didn't actually amount to anything.

This is one of those rare cases where I don't have to pick a side, because it's in both Rachel and Arianna's best interest if Arianna didn't send it to anyone else.

 

 

[Gharlane]

Has anyone seen commercials for the reunion yet? I haven't, but that's partially because we were hit by a couple tornados on Friday.

[heatherchandler]

On 5/11/2024 at 5:43 PM, Wicked said:

I think that if it had been shared it would have been leaked by now

No way would someone send it out knowing that they could get in serious trouble for releasing revenge porn.  Everything is traceable these days.

[ZettaK]

5 hours ago, lasu said:

I think Arianna is telling the truth in her sworn statement.  I think she saw it, recorded in on her own phone, sent it to Rachel, and then confronted Tom who took her phone and deleted it.  I think this is true because with this timeline, she really didn't have a chance to send it to anyone else.  And it's an easy lie to prove or disprove, and she certainly can't count on Tom to back up her timeline if it's fake.  It just doesn't make sense to lie.

If what she did is illegal, I hope the main thing that comes out of it is a PSA.  Rachel hasn't really been hurt by it, except for I'm sure being humiliated that Arianna saw it, but that would have happened even if Arianna hadn't recorded it.  I don't think Arianna should be punished for something she did in the heat of the moment that didn't actually amount to anything.

This is one of those rare cases where I don't have to pick a side, because it's in both Rachel and Arianna's best interest if Arianna didn't send it to anyone else.

 

 

Even if only Ariana saw the video, it was described by multiple cast members at the after season filming session, at the reunion, and was discussed in detail on conventional and social media, so Rachel was hurt- she was humiliated. She didn't want the video to become public fodder. 

5 hours ago, Gharlane said:

Has anyone seen commercials for the reunion yet? I haven't, but that's partially because we were hit by a couple tornados on Friday.

Bravo sneak peek from the reunion.

https://youtu.be/1XuX83_Qcuc?si=DlQpZ9OJ5rYJt_Wi

Edited May 14 by ZettaK

[ZettaK]

14 hours ago, Gharlane said:

Do we have the numbers for viewership this season? 🤔

Viewership for the last 3 seasons. It was high last season after Scandoval broke. The first episode of this season had high viewership numbers which went progressively down during the season until the season finale episode which had high numbers.

These are live, and rerun views combined (I think from streaming, as well, because I read about it before).

https://tvdeets.com/ratings/vanderpump-rules/

Edited May 14 by ZettaK

[Lassus]

20 hours ago, Gharlane said:

23 hours ago, ZettaK said:

Oh, well. Most of them can join The Valley. 

I have no doubt that's where they'll be when this show is over.

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/jax-taylor-says-vanderpump-rules-162001333.html

EDIT:  The fun thumbnail didn't come up, but the amazing headline is:  

Jax Taylor Says ‘Vanderpump Rules’ Stars Coming Over to ‘The Valley’ Is a ‘Hard No’: ‘It Isn’t Fair’

 

6 hours ago, ZettaK said:

The first episode of this season had high viewership numbers which went progressively down during the season until the season finale episode which had high numbers.

I'd be curious where the "progressively down" numbers match up with the rest of the BRAVO slate.  Because I'd be pretty sure it was still above much of everything else.

Edited May 14 by Lassus

[Lassus]

6 hours ago, ZettaK said:

Even if only Ariana saw the video, it was described by multiple cast members at the after season filming session, at the reunion, and was discussed in detail on conventional and social media, so Rachel was hurt- she was humiliated. She didn't want the video to become public fodder. 

I know Ariana has her share of haters, but I'm pretty sure as much as she despises Rachel, she wouldn't go as far as to send the video to anyone.  No proof, on faith, maybe naïve, but I'm just not seeing it.

[bosawks]

56 minutes ago, Lassus said:

  Jax Taylor Says ‘Vanderpump Rules’ Stars Coming Over to ‘The Valley’ Is a ‘Hard No’: ‘It Isn’t Fair’

All's fair in love and BRAVO.

[lasu]

7 hours ago, ZettaK said:

Even if only Ariana saw the video, it was described by multiple cast members at the after season filming session, at the reunion, and was discussed in detail on conventional and social media, so Rachel was hurt- she was humiliated. She didn't want the video to become public fodder. 

Sure, and I honestly feel for her.  It's not something I think she "deserves."  But, describing it isn't illegal.  I don't want to see Arianna punished unless she did more than what she described in her statement, though at the same time, I hope that what she did (recording it to her phone, not sending it back to Rachel) IS technically against revenge porn laws.  It *should* be illegal to do that, IMO.  But I think this should just serve as awareness for all of us.  I've certainly learned more.

[hottesthw]

3 hours ago, Lassus said:

I know Ariana has her share of haters, but I'm pretty sure as much as she despises Rachel, she wouldn't go as far as to send the video to anyone.  No proof, on faith, maybe naïve, but I'm just not seeing it.

Based on the fact that she is on this show after all that happens proves the character Ariana has (or lacks). She’s no better than the rest of them. I put nothing past her. Good for Rachel for at least trying to put a stop to this. 

[Gharlane]

11 hours ago, ZettaK said:

17 hours ago, Gharlane said:

Has anyone seen commercials for the reunion yet? I haven't, but that's partially because we were hit by a couple tornados on Friday.

SNEAK PEEK: Your First Look at the Vanderpump Rules Season 11 Reunion!

Oooh, this one looks interesting!

Of course, that means it's going to really be dull.😒

 

5 hours ago, Lassus said:

Jax Taylor Says ‘Vanderpump Rules’ Stars Coming Over to ‘The Valley’ Is a ‘Hard No’: ‘It Isn’t Fair’

🤣

[RealHousewife]

12 hours ago, ZettaK said:

Even if only Ariana saw the video, it was described by multiple cast members at the after season filming session, at the reunion, and was discussed in detail on conventional and social media, so Rachel was hurt- she was humiliated. She didn't want the video to become public fodder. 

Bravo sneak peek from the reunion.

https://youtu.be/1XuX83_Qcuc?si=DlQpZ9OJ5rYJt_Wi

Oh so Ariana and/or Tom showed the video? How horrifying. Didn’t something like that happen to Stassi too?

[lasu]

29 minutes ago, RealHousewife said:

Oh so Ariana and/or Tom showed the video? How horrifying.

No, at least according Arianna, that's not what happened.  Arianna found the video and recorded it to her own phone (which may be against revenge porn laws), and then sent it to Rachel (which may also be against revenge porn laws).  But (to my knowledge), no one else is claiming they've seen it or been sent it, they've only heard descriptions of what Arianna saw.

[RealHousewife]

24 minutes ago, lasu said:

No, at least according Arianna, that's not what happened.  Arianna found the video and recorded it to her own phone (which may be against revenge porn laws), and then sent it to Rachel (which may also be against revenge porn laws).  But (to my knowledge), no one else is claiming they've seen it or been sent it, they've only heard descriptions of what Arianna saw.

Gotcha, thanks for clearing that up. 

[ZettaK]

Jax has such a nerve. It's not up to him to decide who can participate to The Valley (which was renewed for a second season). He doesn't want anybody from Vanderpump Rules because they are well known already (and coming from Scandoval), but he is the only one, and Kristen who are known on The Valley. Lala just bought a house in the Valley (she owns another one in Palm Springs), I'm sure not by coincidence. She said she can't afford to anywhere else.

[heatherchandler]

Lisa “shades” Ariana and Katie:

https://www.the-sun.com/tv/11192592/lisa-vanderpump-ariana-madix-katie-maloney-something-about-her/
 

This picture of Ariana and Katie, Ariana showing boob in a promo shot for their sandwich shop?!  Desperate much?

 

[princelina]

14 hours ago, lasu said:

Sure, and I honestly feel for her.  It's not something I think she "deserves."  But, describing it isn't illegal.  I don't want to see Arianna punished unless she did more than what she described in her statement, though at the same time, I hope that what she did (recording it to her phone, not sending it back to Rachel) IS technically against revenge porn laws.  It *should* be illegal to do that, IMO.  But I think this should just serve as awareness for all of us.  I've certainly learned more.

The thing I have learned is that "revenge porn" laws exist!  And in my heart I think that if Ariana's problem happened to me I probably wouldn't have sent it out to everyone because I'd be afraid of possible consequences, and having that trail on my phone even without knowing the laws, but you can bet I'd have shown it to everyone we both know!  And I don't/wouldn't feel bad at all - don't masturbate on camera you weirdos!  It's not that hard not to do 😄

[Gharlane]

6 hours ago, heatherchandler said:

Lisa Vanderpump shades Ariana Madix & Katie Maloney and brags she would’ve had Something About Her ‘opened a year ago’
 

This picture of Ariana and Katie, Ariana showing boob in a promo shot for their sandwich shop?!  Desperate much?

Wait, is that's their shop? It looks like a stand in an open space, like a mall or convention center (note the people to the right).

[hoodooznoodooz]

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Edited May 15 by hoodooznoodooz

[hoodooznoodooz]

LVP shades Katie and Ariana. Who found the location that supposedly passed every necessary inspection, as the previous business? Who recommended Penny? LVP s u c k s.

[hoodooznoodooz]

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Edited May 15 by hoodooznoodooz

[heatherchandler]

2 hours ago, Gharlane said:

Wait, is that's their shop? It looks like a stand in an open space, like a mall or convention center (note the people to the right).

You’re right, and they may be promoting potato chips.. my criticism still stands!  Boobs out for food promotion?

[RealHousewife]

3 hours ago, heatherchandler said:

You’re right, and they may be promoting potato chips.. my criticism still stands!  Boobs out for food promotion?

Hey, it worked for Hooters!

[politichick]

3 hours ago, heatherchandler said:

You’re right, and they may be promoting potato chips.. my criticism still stands!  Boobs out for food promotion?

Yeah, I'm an Ariana fan, big time, but that's not working for me, either, lol.

[RealHousewife]

I saw an episode recently where Lisa had a one-on-one business meeting with some guy, and she showed a ton of cleavage. It was a lot, even for her. Maybe ira just normal in that circle or in LA.

[Katie W]

6 hours ago, Gharlane said:

Wait, is that's their shop? It looks like a stand in an open space, like a mall or convention center (note the people to the right).

It's a pop-up version of their store they did at Bravocon this year. 

[peachmangosteen]

[Gharlane]

13 hours ago, heatherchandler said:

You’re right, and they may be promoting potato chips.. my criticism still stands!  Boobs out for food promotion?

Cookies and Triskit mini pizzas? 

[snarts]

Andy, Stassi/Beau, Kristen and others showed up for the Something About Her soft opening yesterday.

Grand opening is May 22nd.

Suck it, Lala :)

Edited May 18 by snarts

[RealHousewife]

8 minutes ago, snarts said:

Andy, Stassi/Beau, Kristen and others showed up for the Something About Her soft opening yesterday.

Grand opening is May 22nd.

Suck it, Lala :)

How nice! I plan to visit on my next trip to LA. 

[Kiki777]

I can’t stand Andy but it’s a good sign that he showed up for them.

[hoodooznoodooz]

There’s a woman who kindly transcribes/recaps most of the Vanderpump Rules cast members’ and former cast members’ podcasts. 

(I didn’t proofread it.)
 

Rachel: Hello everyone. And welcome back to another episode of Rachel Goes rogue. This is your host Rachel Savannah Leviss. And today we are talking about the reunion part 1. So let’s get into it. I have my producers here asking me some questions so that we can get this conversation started.

So even in the teaser that they put out, your name was all over that. There was a whole lot of discussion even about this podcast. And about some of the choices you’ve made not going on this season but yet you’re still be talked about the reunion. Hearing your name being brought up, how did that feel? (Timestamp: 1:54)

Rachel: Kind of expected for my name to brought up. It’s almost like, you kind of have to laugh at it at this point because oh man, they just have an issue with me commenting my experience. When I speak they don’t want me to have a voice. I think we’ve said it before on this podcast.

Rachel: It’s just a little bit hypocritical when the cast is talking about me on this season. And I talk about my experience and name names and they have an issue with it. So it’s just the same old thing. And I think after this season, I don’t think I’ll be a topic of conversation so we’re almost there.

So Lisa specifically was asked if she thought that you would come back this season. And she said, and I quote, all of her actions were so kind of unpredictable. I didn't really know what all of this nonsense on a podcast and her denigrating everyone. It's absolutely ridiculous (Timestamp: 3:14)

Rachel: I think it's absolutely ridiculous that Lisa thinks I'm denigrating everyone. I'm definitely not. If anything, they're denigrating me, talking about me every single week and just painting me in the worst possible light, even though I'm not even there to defend myself.

Rachel: But yeah, I have gone rogue. I'm actually figuring out what is the healthiest option for me. So I've said it before, and I'll say it again, going back to Vanderpump Rules would jeopardize my mental wellbeing.

Rachel: And I, after watching this whole season play out, I'm happy that I didn't go back. I think it would have been really bad for my mental wellbeing. And this is the season that they got to have.

Rachel: And unfortunately, it wasn't that spectacular from my point of view, anyway, my opinion. No, I'm not gonna let myself enter into that arena again and be dogpiled on and be humiliated and harassed and bullied and talk down to the way that I have been in the past for things that were, for smaller things, if that makes sense.

Rachel: And this is like the center, the nucleus of Vanderpump right now. But I think it's also like, if you really wanted me to come back, then show some compassion for the network, support your cast members when they're asking for help.

Rachel: If I was supported in the way that I felt like I deserve to be, then maybe there would have been a world where I did come back, but then I also would have had to ensure that we would have productive conversations and not just like dog piling and gaslighting by Scheana and all that negativity. I guess it's a tough ask.

Rachel: I had an ask and I wasn't met where I wanted to be met, and so I had to walk away.

So Tom was asked if he knew anything about you wanting to come back, and he said that he encouraged you to take time away from everyone, including him, and come to your decision that way. You've kind of talked about how things went down in previous episodes. How did it feel hearing him say that? (Timestamp: 5:39)

Rachel: Oh my gosh, it's infuriating. And I don't mean to smile, but watching him say that is so infuriating because then like a few seconds later, he's calling me a coward. But if you listen to him, like he's constantly contradicting himself in the way that he's putting up this front, like he's being supportive and he wants the best for me and he wants me to like take some space to figure things out for myself.

Rachel: Yet if I do take some space and figure things out for myself, not only am I selfish, but if I choose to not come back, then I'm also a coward. So do you see how infuriating that can be? And how do you handle that?

Rachel: It's like you just have to laugh it off because this person is showing you time and time again the type of person that they are. And I want to believe that he has good intentions and that he could be a supportive person. But deep down, he has ulterior motives and he really just wanted me back because it would make him look better and he would have more support.
 

So on one hand, you have Tom calling you a coward. On the other hand, you have Lala kind of sticking up for you and saying that she didn't know if she could do what you did last year showing up to the reunion. She says that time heals and had you come back, that you probably would have had a really productive conversation. But then on the other hand, she's like, but I still stand by everything that I said at the reunion last year. So what is your take on what Lala was saying at the reunion and where is your relationship with her today? Because she kind of seems like the only one that's at least had your back in small ways. (Timestamp: 7:10)

Rachel: Yeah, it's very interesting to see how this has played out. And my feelings towards Lala have changed a little bit since we first started recording this podcast. And since the moment that I got that voice memo from her back, you know, months and months ago, last summer.

Rachel: At first, I really thought that she wanted me to come back to the show. And that was the only intention for sending me that voice memo. But as I'm seeing her really connect to the different parts of being in an abusive, narcissistic relationship, there's like a common thread there.

Rachel: And I think she really does get it because she's experienced it firsthand. And it's validating in a way to have that representation on Vanderpump Rules when I'm not there. So hearing her stick up for me once again and just validate that I was very courageous to come back for the reunion last year, it is validating.

Rachel: I think also she walks a fine line between being supportive of me and also like how she said she stands behind what she said last year at the reunion. I think she's also aware that everyone else in the room is anti Rachel. So she's choosing her words carefully, but if you listen to what she actually has to say, you can tell that she's pretty supportive, which is a good feeling.

So where would you say your relationship with her is today? (Timestamp: 9:22)

Rachel: Well, I don't have a relationship with her because I don't text her or call her or reach out to her at all. So we don't have a relationship, but I don't have hard feelings against her. I do think that maybe Lala and I could have a constructive conversation to move forward.

Rachel: I'm not sure that we would hang out and become friends, but I do think we have a common ground for both reality TV and bad past relationships.

And so she kind of was the main one taking a lot of time talking at the reunion. She was interjecting on a lot of places. She even said something really interesting at the end of the episode, where she said the rules of the game regarding filming have changed this season. Do you think everything she's saying during this reunion is genuine, or do you think she's just trying to keep a job? (Timestamp: 9:58)

Rachel: That's a great question. I think a large part of Lala's motivation is to ensure that she does have job security in this entertainment industry.

I just want to know if you find her words genuine. She also does kind of give the energy that she's the only person being really honest in saying what's really in her brain. So it's hard to tell if she is being honest to a fault, or if she is doing these things with an ulterior motive as to like keep the show going or keep a job. So which side do you kind of fall on with that? (Timestamp: 10:34)

Rachel: I think that both can be true. I think that she can be honest to a fault and actually like say what she's thinking because she tends to do that, right? And she also wants to ensure that she has a job longevity with being a cast member on Vanderpump Rules.

Rachel: For Lala, I think she's doing her best to balance reality TV and the producer's needs while she's evolving as a person. It's a lot of pressure, which I understand. I think both things can be true.

Rachel: And I suspect that she'll probably transfer over to the Valley, and I think that would do the Valley well.

She has come out to say that she's not. Says she didn't buy her house in the Valley so she could be on the show. Do you believe that? (Timestamp: 11:45)

Rachel: Okay, that could be true, too. She didn't buy her house in the Valley to be on the show, but that doesn't mean that she's not gonna be on the show. We'll see.

And so Lala does have a moment where, one of the big moments where she really stuck up for you was talking about the grooming. She really clarified to Tom what grooming was, and he kind of rebuts what she says by saying that he was very impressionable when you took off all your clothes and jumped in his pool. (Timestamp: 12:00)

Rachel: Gees. Oh my god. Okay, yeah, that may be true, although I didn't take off all of my clothes. But I'm talking about the moments leading up to that point. There was intention behind the way that Tom really gave me undivided attention to want to know my situation and what was happening in my reality.

Rachel: Things were a little bit blurry, and it was a gradual thing that took place where I started feeling more attracted to him. We were talking about grooming. We're talking about the events that led up to the moment that Tom is bringing up at the reunion, me getting in the pool and us kissing.

Rachel: Also, if you haven't listened to this podcast, definitely go back after finishing our recording here. It's chapter 13, and it's with Your Bish Therapist, and she breaks down grooming so well. And I'm not saying that Tom groomed me to be like Tom's victim.

Rachel: I can take responsibility for my part in that too, because I was in a place where I was seeking validation from somebody and I felt safe around Tom, and I enjoyed my time with him. And I wasn't someone who necessarily fell victim to him, but there is a big age gap. He also was aware of my situation and knew that I was very vulnerable.

Rachel: And come on, like Tom is a manipulative person, like hands down, we can all see it. So there's a term that psychologists use for what happened between Tom and I, and it's called grooming. And then also another little note with the grooming thing that I didn't mention with Your Bish Therapist, but I kind of wish that I did.

Rachel: I think there's also this element that the show itself brings in to play. I think Vanderpump Rules itself groomed me to be okay with this type of behavior, because it's been modeled for me time and time again with previous relationships on the show from the very beginning. And I'm not a fan either.

Rachel: I know a lot of people think that I'm a huge fangirl, and just that's why I was on the show. That's not the case. Anyway, I don't need to defend myself.

Rachel: My point is that we see Jax cheating on Stassi, we see Tom cheating on Kristin with Ariana, we see Lala and James have a thing, and then Lala telling me on camera that they had a thing. We see Lala going down on Ariana, and it's very messy and complicated and blurry. And it's also like these things are accepted, basically, as the norm.

Rachel: And this is not to excuse my behavior at all, but it definitely was a factor in all of this, my decision making. It's something that has been normalized on this show.

I mean, there's no way that you could have predicted how big this scandal got, but you're saying that this behavior was kind of normalized. Did you think that if you were ever found out, it was kind of gonna be treated the same way any other cheating situation on the show had been treated? You didn't even really think that it would have blown up? (Timestamp: 16:15)

Rachel: That's correct, yes. I thought that if Tom and I got found out or like we came clean, that it would have been treated the way that cheating has always been treated on this show. All of the past cheating behaviors were not only accepted, but they were encouraged for many seasons with each cast member and made good TV to be consumed by the viewers, which kept the viewers coming back.

Rachel: Scandoval, just insanity, the scale that it's imploded to. And I don't think anyone could have predicted that.

Definitely not. You were saying that you take responsibility for your part in Scandoval. You admit that Schwartz during the reunion basically called you out and called you conniving, called you ruthless. Last year, Schwartz was doubling down on not knowing about the affair. This year, now he's coming at you, calling you conniving and ruthless. Do you think it's because you kind of outed his role in all the things? (Timestamp: 17:09)

Rachel: I think that Schwartz is Tom's mouthpiece. I think that Schwartz spends so much time with Tom that he hears Tom talk about me in a certain way. And without a doubt, Tom has been the one saying that I am conniving and I'm ruthless.

Rachel: I don't think that Schwartz actually thinks that because when Schwartz and I were all hanging out together, it wasn't ideal and Schwartz did have an issue with it. And Schwartz did try to talk some sense into Sandoval, but Sandoval also didn't uphold Schwartz's boundaries with not hanging out at his apartment. So to hear Schwartz say that I was conniving and ruthless, it's just like, come on, Schwartz.

He said, you are not a victim in this, that you were just as conniving, if not more so, and ruthless in your pursuit for pleasure. (Timestamp: 18:31)

Rachel: Wow. Okay. I don't think that I'm more conniving than Tom Sandoval. And yeah, maybe I was a little bit ruthless with my pursuit of pleasure. I can own that, sure.

Rachel: But I feel like Schwartz is spinning it. Like it was all me, and I was the mastermind behind it all. And that Tom gets off scot-free, and that's just obviously not the case.

ads podcast resumes at 21:05

Rachel: I think at the end of that victim ruthless comment, Tom said, it was 50 50. I hear the way that Tom has spoken about the situation before, and he portrays it as, you know, I was the one that seduced him, and I'm the one that is responsible for it, which is definitely not the case.

Rachel: And Tom was the one that was in the relationship. He had the responsibility to end that relationship with Ariana if he didn't want to be in that anymore, if he wasn't happy in that anymore. He had support to do that and still failed to do that. I believe that Tom had the responsibility to break up with her. So I don't think that it is 50 50.

At the end of that exchange, too, Katie says that you haven't taken responsibility. (Timestamp: 22:03)

Rachel: What do you guys mean by I didn’t take responsibility?!?! “I really don't know. I take responsibility for my part in the affair. I totally do.

Rachel: I can see how it's messed up. And I apologize to Ariana and the people that I hurt because it wasn't just Ariana either. It was our friends who trusted me and trusted Tom. And that wasn't cool to be deceiving. And Ariana trusted me to be honest with her. And I had a responsibility to respect our friendship.

Rachel: And I failed to do that. I take responsibility with that. I am sorry. I'm doing everything in my power not to put myself in that position again and to really prioritize my female friendships. And I've gone away to figure out what led me here. I have really done a deep dive with therapists on this whole scandal situation.

Rachel: I'm doing this podcast to share those things with you guys because I feel like it will help other people who maybe don't have access to therapy or want to know more, have that curiosity as to like, you know, my thought process behind it and how that can relate to themselves.

Rachel: So I really feel like I have done everything in my power to take responsibility and to take accountability. I haven't denied anything, and I am upholding my values and I'm prioritizing my mental health. And that's really all I can do.

And so you've spoken about this before, and you said that's a lawsuit that you are bringing upon Ariana and Tom is just that. It's something that you believe you're doing to uphold your values and to prioritize yourself. (Timestamp: 23:54)

Rachel: This is also a part of me upholding my boundaries. A boundary has been violated by Tom for filming me without asking my permission first. And if he would have asked, I would have fricking said hell no.

Rachel: And then not only that, but like the boundary had been violated because Tom recorded me without me knowing, but then Ariana was the one that sent it to me. And that's a boundary violation as well. This is an action I'm taking to uphold my boundaries and to show other people that this isn't okay.

Well, I want your opinion on Scheana kind of speaking up for Ariana, because it's almost like a role reversal of what happened last year, where they were asking Sheena about her lawsuit. She couldn't speak on it. And then Tom kind of spoke and interjected and caused a whole issue there. Now this time, Scheana’s the one that's speaking up because they can't speak on it. What was your take on that? (Timestamp: 24:49)

Rachel: I think it's interesting because in this reunion as well, I'm not there to be represented in the conversation either. I remember last year when they were asking Sheena about the restraining order that was put in place. They only asked Scheana about that, and they didn't ask me about it when I was on stage.

Rachel: So watching this back, obviously I know that, you know, I'm not there to answer any questions, but it is interesting to see that Scheana is the one, as a representative for Ariana, saying it's ridiculous. Of course, she can't comment on it. And then also Tom spinning it like, oh, well, you know, I understand if she just wanted to press charges against me, but doing it against Ariana is despicable or whatever he said.

Rachel: It became a big deal because, first of all, you don't take a video like that without somebody knowing. And then you don't leave it on your phone for your girlfriend to find. And then also the way it blew up, Ariana went straight to production to tell them about it.

Rachel: TMZ reported on it and this video, and there was a target on me. Like people were out to take me down. And I knew that this video had a high probability of being circulated.

Rachel: So that was absolutely terrifying. And I, oh my gosh, if that video got out, I would have still gone to the meadows because I would have been in an even worse place. But like, imagine the additional trauma on top of that, what I was already going through. I think I would have been there for like six months.

Well, he then said that you don't have a soul. (Timestamp: 27:13)

Rachel: I'm not going around on my podcast saying that these people don't have souls. It's a new low, and I think it's more reflective of who Tom is as a person. And honestly, it's really hard for me to even like comment on it right now because I just know that that's not true at all. So it's hard for me to like get into some sort of feeling about it.

Do you also think, Rachel, that it's too tiered? So on one hand, there's these individual people talking about individual feelings, but at the end of the day, they're still on a reality show. They're making sound bites and also sort of redirecting the narrative. So when the fans are saying, what's going on with the show? And it's not great, and it's boring. Well, they bring you into the picture and they badmouth you. How do you feel about that? Do you feel that part of them is actually saying it or part of it is production value and the direction of the narrative because it brings up news? (Timestamp: 27:47)

Rachel: That's a great question that I kind of forgot to think about because as we all know, Tom does prioritize the show. This is not his first rodeo. He knows what he's doing.

Rachel: He knows that production needs certain sound bites. And it does change the trajectory of how people view me, I guess, in a way, if I'm not there to represent myself. So yeah, that is interesting.

Rachel: A really good point that I think we do need to take into consideration. It's not that exciting of a show and the cast seems to get all riled up about tearing me down. But yeah, it seems like it's calculated what Tom is saying about me to present me in a way that would in turn support him being a better looking person.

At the end of this whole conversation about you, James apologizes to the group for introducing you to everyone. They kind of say, well, you're the one that brought her in here. And he's like, sorry, guys. And they end by saying, if that's the apology we all needed, what does that feel like to see? (Timestamp: 29:19)

Rachel: It's just like one big huge eye roll. It's like the blame game. It's like, well, it's your fault. Well, it's your fault. Oh, it's James' fault for even bringing her here. I think sometimes when I watch the show, I disassociate a little bit because it is painful to watch.

Rachel: And when I saw that, and also like when I see James, it's like I've had to work through a lot of emotions through that relationship. Seeing James' whole arc this season and how he has so much support, which is fine, like it's fine, but I don't think it's burned based off of the things that he has done. And so when I see that and the cast all laughing and bonding over, oh, that was the apology we needed.

Rachel: It's like, it kind of makes you go insane a little bit because I've been apologizing, I've been taking accountability. This has been my soul's journey through this experience of really trying to overcome my social anxiety and like seeing the show as an opportunity to do that. And then overcoming some of these codependency tendencies with James and overcoming that relationship.

Rachel: And then following my heart, and where did it lead me? Straight to Tom Sandoval. And meanwhile, all of this is being filmed. I'm in my 20s and we're all supposed to make mistakes in our 20s and learn from it. And I feel like I've done exactly that. Yeah, I think it's just hard to watch scenes like that.

(There’s even more, but you get the gist of it. You probably got the gist of it several paragraphs ago.)

[surfgirl]

I tried, I really did, to read all that and only got through maybe 25%. Are there Cliff Notes? 😅 

[Carolina Girl]

10 hours ago, surfgirl said:

I tried, I really did, to read all that and only got through maybe 25%. Are there Cliff Notes? 😅 

Now imagine in it that ridiculous semi-comatose voice of hers.....

[hoodooznoodooz]

17 hours ago, snarts said:

Andy, Stassi/Beau, Kristen and others showed up for the Something About Her soft opening yesterday.

Grand opening is May 22nd.

Suck it, Lala :)

Has anyone looked at their menu? Many items’ descriptions end with “S&P.” Do we think that means salt and pepper? How generous.

[AnnieBananie]

All the dots connected for me today when I was marathoning Bar Rescue (I know, I know) and one of the episodes had Penny Davidi as the rescuing chef. She was listed as the head chef at SUR, and that's when it clicked - of course she was the consultant for SAH, through Lisa.

(This is old news for most of you, so forgive me that I just figured it all out as to why she was connected to Katie and Ariana!)

[Jennifersdc]

On 5/8/2024 at 4:48 PM, heatherchandler said:

As I understand SHE (Ariana) shared it with herself, which is technically sharing it, and she was sending it to others from his phone.  

I did not see a claim that Ariana sent it to others from Tom’s phone. She did send it to herself to send to Raquel (not sure if that meets the “distribution” threshold). She wasn’t able to send it to anybody else because Sandoval grabbed her phone and deleted it immediately from her phone. That’s what her text to Logan literally says while this is all happening confirms. I think this gives Rachel a pretty high bar to meet. This video has never seen the light of day so I’m not even sure what kind of damages she is claiming. She did it. Doesn’t mean nobody is allowed to talk about it. 

Not a lawyer - but I’m pretty sure Rachel is going to have to get somebody to testify they were actually sent the video.
 

Do they all know what’s on it? Absolutely. I’m sure Ariana described it in excruciating detail. 

No clue about Sandoval recording her. I don’t do FaceTime. Does it let the other party know they are being recorded?

BTW - if you didn’t guess. I think Rachel is completely full of shit. Her and Sandoval deserve each other. Too bad it didn’t work out.😈

ETA - I don’t think Ariana is as smart as she thinks she is - but I do think she was smart enough to know not to send that video to any outsiders. Even if was dumb enough to do that in blind rage - I think it would have surfaced by now.

 

Edited May 19 by Jennifersdc

[hoodooznoodooz]

Sandoval might have even done Ariana a favor, deleting it from her phone. 🙃

[Jennifersdc]

1 hour ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

Sandoval might have even done Ariana a favor, deleting it from her phone. 🙃

Yep

[ZettaK]

4 hours ago, Jennifersdc said:

I did not see a claim that Ariana sent it to others from Tom’s phone. She did send it to herself to send to Raquel (not sure if that meets the “distribution” threshold). She wasn’t able to send it to anybody else because Sandoval grabbed her phone and deleted it immediately from her phone. That’s what her text to Logan literally says while this is all happening confirms. I think this gives Rachel a pretty high bar to meet. This video has never seen the light of day so I’m not even sure what kind of damages she is claiming. She did it. Doesn’t mean nobody is allowed to talk about it. 

Not a lawyer - but I’m pretty sure Rachel is going to have to get somebody to testify they were actually sent the video.
 

Do they all know what’s on it? Absolutely. I’m sure Ariana described it in excruciating detail. 

No clue about Sandoval recording her. I don’t do FaceTime. Does it let the other party know they are being recorded?

BTW - if you didn’t guess. I think Rachel is completely full of shit. Her and Sandoval deserve each other. Too bad it didn’t work out.😈

ETA - I don’t think Ariana is as smart as she thinks she is - but I do think she was smart enough to know not to send that video to any outsiders. Even if was dumb enough to do that in blind rage - I think it would have surfaced by now.

 

Rachel said that Ariana told (the Bravo) production. It's obvious, because that's why Bravo started filming again when the season was airing already in order to document the reactions of the cast. As for the video surfacing, or not, Rachel made it clear she was angry (eg. she filed a restraining order against Scheana), and upset about the video circulating, so I doubt anybody would dare to give it to the media for example, or share it.

[Jennifersdc]

8 hours ago, ZettaK said:

Rachel said that Ariana told (the Bravo) production. It's obvious, because that's why Bravo started filming again when the season was airing already in order to document the reactions of the cast. As for the video surfacing, or not, Rachel made it clear she was angry (eg. she filed a restraining order against Scheana), and upset about the video circulating, so I doubt anybody would dare to give it to the media for example, or share it.

But that’s what she’s suing for. That they shared the video with others. Outside the three of them I haven’t heard anybody else claim they actually saw it. I’m pretty sure Rachel and her lawyers had no clue re text to Logan saying Tom deleted it from Ariana’s phone almost immediately. 

I guess she’s suing Sandoval recording her without per permission. She may have a civil case against him. I guess we’ll see how it plays out. 

[Gharlane]

10 minutes ago, Jennifersdc said:

But that’s what she’s suing for. That they shared the video with others. Outside the three of them I haven’t heard anybody else claim they actually saw it. 

The way I remember it, most of the cast saw it, but I'm not if they received a copy or she showed it to them on her phone.

[politichick]

7 minutes ago, Gharlane said:

The way I remember it, most of the cast saw it, but I'm not if they received a copy or she showed it to them on her phone.

But how could she do that if Tom deleted it from her phone? I don't think she would do that but if she would have in the heat and shock of the moment, as someone said above, Tom did Ariana a favor by deleting it from her phone.

I sadly read most of the transcript on reddit and Rachel's lawyers probably want to slap her now. She pretty much exonerated Ariana and admitted she's suing her for spite--or as she stupidly said, to make her boundaries clear. The girl still needs help.

[Katie W]

I've read some of the filings and I think she's only going after Ariana because of the two of them; Ariana has money.  I think Tom is broke. Ariana's lawyers have already submitted evidence from experts that the video was deleted and that it was only sent to Rachel. I can not believe Rachel is still talking about this on her podcast.  Ariana's lawyers have already used what she's said in her podcast when they filed to have the case dismissed. She's already contradicted herself mulitple times on the podcast! 

[Carolina Girl]

10 hours ago, ZettaK said:

Rachel said that Ariana told (the Bravo) production.

Ariana can tell Bravo production anything she wants.  That's not evidence - that's hearsay.  Rach-cakes needs to produce someone who actually received the video and so far I haven't heard a name mentioned.  Under discovery rules, she'll have to reveal WHO has information relative to the allegations of a civil complaint which would then allow this person to be deposed - UNDER OATH.  They may tell a different story when perjury is involved.

I think Rachel thought she'd get some publicity - like that attention-grab with the TRO - and that maybe Bravo might even cut her a check to make it all go away.  Instead, if she loses (and I can see a summary judgment coming her way), she is going to find herself responsible for attorneys' fees and costs incurred by Ariana and/or Tom in the action.