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Spoiler Discussion: The apple was poisoned?!

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rogvortex58

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I guess it depends which of them want to go back to live in EF2 and which of them actually want to live in a place with indoor plumbing.

Tiana’s probably back to her realm. She and Naveen can live in her palace and get married. Jack has no reason to stay. No idea about Alice. She and Robin could go either way. Nothing against Rogers, but I don’t really want him in Storybrooke. Henry Ella and Lucy will probably all go together.

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When everyone realized Rumple and Regina weren't coming back, they had a big celebration and put on a cloaking spell so they can never be found or contacted ever again.

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At least someone is freaking out over Emma's darkness. Keep giving a shit, Hook! You're pretty much the only one who does...

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HER GRANDMA IS EMMA! Are they being serious with this?

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36 minutes ago, rogvortex58 said:

Jack has no reason to stay.

I'm trying to remember who Jack is, but that name doesn't ring a bell. 

Yeah--Rogers in Storybrooke is unnecessary. He and Alice would likely go back to the magical realms. 

I do think it would be fitting to show Henry returning to Storybrooke with his wife and daughter, as he began this season by leaving Storybrooke, but without Emma and Snowing there, it seems pointless for him to return. After all, Regina will probably tag along with him wherever he goes, and there's nobody in Storybrooke besides Emma/Hook and his grandparents that he'd be interested in visiting. He seems to have made a life for himself in the Disenchanted Forest. 

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Rumsy4

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12 minutes ago, rogvortex58 said:

Nick in HH. Henry’s friend Jack in EF2.

Thanks. I forgot that his Disenchanted name is not Nick as well. 

Is Shady Blue back for the Finale? 

Would they actually show that 15 years or so have passed since Henry left Storybrooke at the start of the Season? Or will the writers chicken out and show everyone still the same age, and Emma is 7 months pregnant, while Henry has a 10 year old daughter in tow? And nobody explains anything. 

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sharky

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Hook could say “I like it here. Take my Jolly Roger and leave.” And then WHook and Alice could be pirates! And we could finally see them together, which I actually would like to see. 

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Rumsy4

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15 minutes ago, sharky said:

Hook could say “I like it here. Take my Jolly Roger and leave.” And then WHook and Alice could be pirates! And we could finally see them together, which I actually would like to see. 

There's another Jolly Roger though. WHook could just go back to it. 

Yeah--I would love to see WHook and Alice reunited and adventuring the seven seas. In the promo for tonight's episode, little Alice seems to have painted a sailing ship in her Tower Room. Poor kid.

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7 hours ago, Rumsy4 said:

Are you sure? Does this mean Clone Queen is back? Ugh...nooooo. Unless it is Disenchanted Robin. Don't tell me the Finale has a love pentagon between the two Robins, the two Reginas, and Facilier.

Dr. Facilier accidentally ate that feather, so he's actually Original recipe Robin, who will get his body back in the finale so Regina could have her happy ending.

 

5 hours ago, Rumsy4 said:

Pan went out with a whimper in Season 5. I'm not sure what's there left to "explore".

Yeah, seriously.  I would be disappointed if we didn't get to see Cora again.

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10 minutes ago, legaleagle53 said:

"Operation Hyacinth."

Now I want Hyacinth Bucket from Keeping Up Appearances to be one of the coat hangers.  Perhaps the real big bad of the season.  I don't think she would approve of many of the characters.

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Rumsy4

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36 minutes ago, legaleagle53 said:

"Operation Hyacinth."

Lucy said it's the first flower Henry gave her mother. Was this in HH? I don't remember that scene. Not that I pay attention to any Murderella/Henry scenes.

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KingOfHearts

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33 minutes ago, Rumsy4 said:

I'm worried about Roni coming in for some afternoon delight while Lucy's in there, hiding. 

I mean. She was raping Graham while Henry was in the house. She had sex with Robin in the same room as his wife... ish.

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1 hour ago, KingOfHearts said:

So Adam lied about the cast having an open invitation to come back, I guess?

 

I've wonder the wisdom of A&E claiming that every actor who was ever on the show has an open invitation to come back.  I mean, they still need to pay them, don't they?

Gideon is a weak character, but do A&E expect us to believe that Rumple would never speak to his son again?  That was one of the most ridiculous things about "Beauty".  It was unfathomable that Belle would just go die while her son was still a young adult.  But they were already ignoring Gideon then, so this isn't a surprise, I guess.  

With better planning, Gideon could have returned maybe not in the actual finale, but in Episode 19 or 20.   With less arrogance, they could have devoted 7B to wrapping up the show instead of persisting in ramming this failure of a requel through to another season.

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KingOfHearts

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8 minutes ago, Camera One said:

Gideon is a weak character, but do A&E expect us to believe that Rumple would never speak to his son again?  That was one of the most ridiculous things about "Beauty".  It was unfathomable that Belle would just go die while her son was still a young adult.  But they were already ignoring Gideon then, so this isn't a surprise, I guess.  

Rumple spent centuries trying to find his son. Now that he's got a new one, he doesn't care about him at all? The show spent all of S6 trying to convince us of Gideon's importance. There seems to be a pattern of drilling viewers until they're on board with something, then taking it away like it never mattered.

I don't even like Gideon. I just think, narratively speaking, he needed to be there to complete Rumple's arc if Belle is pushing up... er, roses.

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9 minutes ago, Camera One said:

Have Young Snow, Young Emma, Young Regina, Young David, Young Hook, Young Baelfire #1+2, Young Zelena and Belle's mother been invited back yet?  I'm really excited to see them all.

No, but we've got Merida, August, and Lily! :D

(Just kidding, thankfully.)

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Not having adult Gideon would support the theory of going back to the "present" in Storybrooke, so Gideon would still be a small child, if he's there at all -- the Rumple family would have left town by 2017-18, so going back to the current time before Henry left wouldn't change their departure.

The real question is, has there been any mention of Belle returning? You'd think she'd have to show up to give Rumple his happy ending, even if it's them being reunited in the afterlife. Though isn't it a bit presumptuous of him, given the life he's led, to assume he'd end up in the same place as Belle? Then again, I guess there's Cora.

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Maybe they're waiting to announce Belle since she would be a "big" return.  The actress hasn't put the kibosh on returning, so I would think she's a guarantee.

The presence of Peter Pan and Cruella may suggest some sort of AU where they're still alive, or they're going back to the Season 1-2 time period.  

Or they're going to rip off "Lost" and everyone would be at the same place, together.

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I would think they had plans for Belle to return even if this were not the last season.  I thought it was Robert's last season regardless and expected at the very least a ghostly image of her to escort him to the other side.  Although I suppose if that is the plan, they might have filmed that with their centric early in the year.

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Souris

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1 hour ago, Camera One said:

Maybe they're waiting to announce Belle since she would be a "big" return.  The actress hasn't put the kibosh on returning, so I would think she's a guarantee.

The presence of Peter Pan and Cruella may suggest some sort of AU where they're still alive, or they're going back to the Season 1-2 time period.  

Could they be Wish Realm versions of Peter Pan and Cruella?

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KingOfHearts

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23 minutes ago, Souris said:

Could they be Wish Realm versions of Peter Pan and Cruella?

They're from Wish Neverland and Wish Fictional 1920s England... you mean you've never heard of those?!

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rogvortex58

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Nothing against WHook or Alice. But I hate the wish realm.

We’re supposed to believe WRobin and WHook are real enough to come to our world and get happy endings. But meanwhile it’s acceptable for Regina to just kill WSnowing because they weren’t considered real at the time?

Give me a break!

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KingOfHearts

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32 minutes ago, rogvortex58 said:

Nothing against WHook or Alice. But I hate the wish realm.

We’re supposed to believe WRobin and WHook are real enough to come to our world and get happy endings. But meanwhile it’s acceptable for Regina to just kill WSnowing because they weren’t considered real at the time?

Give me a break!

I don't hate the idea of the Wish Realm, or having an alternate set of the main characters. It's just the way it's been handled that infuriatingly makes no sense.

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Rumsy4

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I think the most likely explanation for Pan and Cruella is for them to show up in Underworld Redux, gnashing their teeth as Rumple walks off into the glorious Light a la Cora. However, since A&E love their irredeemable villains, Pan and Cruella probably go to Heaven as well. The series will not be considered truly resolved without giving them closure. ;-)

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KingOfHearts

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1 minute ago, Rumsy4 said:

I think the most likely explanation for Pan and Cruella is for them to show up in Underworld Redux, gnashing their teeth as Rumple walks off into the glorious Light a la Cora. However, since A&E love their irredeemable villains, Pan and Cruella probably go to Heaven as well. The series will not be considered truly resolved without giving them closure. ;-)

Cruella now runs the Animal Shelter, and Pan is a youth group leader. 

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8 minutes ago, KingOfHearts said:

Cruella now runs the Animal Shelter, and Pan is a youth group leader. 

 

12 minutes ago, Rumsy4 said:

as Rumple walks off into the glorious Light a la Cora. However, since A&E love their irredeemable villains, Pan and Cruella probably go to Heaven as well. The series will not be considered truly resolved without giving them closure. ;-)

I'm already feeling warm fuzzy feelings.

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10 minutes ago, KingOfHearts said:

Cruella now runs the Animal Shelter, and Pan is a youth group leader. 

And the Original Blind Witch now runs the Underworld child care. 

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1 minute ago, Rumsy4 said:

And the Original Blind Witch now runs the Underworld child care. 

Now there'll be two Blind Witches in the Underworld.  Or did the other one go to Disenchanted Underbrooke?  Though she might have went into the light because she offered the heroes a gingerbread cookie.

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KingOfHearts

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24 minutes ago, Camera One said:

Now there'll be two Blind Witches in the Underworld.  Or did the other one go to Disenchanted Underbrooke?

Disenchanted Underbrooke is where Japanese!Cruella, French!Hades, and Lithuanian!Blind Witch live. 

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Based on the title "The Girl in the Tower", the next episode should be an Alice centric, and the next "untold" story would be how she got out of the Tower.  I suspect that Robyn will be the one to get her out (maybe she could have Alice hanging on the magic arrow that doesn't miss and shoot it out the tower window and Alice can zipline her way to the ground). 

Yet the promo only focused on Roni, Lucy and Dr. Facilier.  What's up with that?  They don't think their new epic romance will get viewers to tune in? 

I suppose Gothel could also be the Girl in the Tower since this season has multiple Rapunzels (Fake Gothel Rapunzel, Tremaine Rapunzel and Young Alice Rapunzel), but I suspect her backstory is the one titled "Flower Girl" much later in the season.  

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Rumsy4

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Apparently, Lana, Beverly, and Keegan are filming now at the Snow and Charming statue (X). Wishverse for the Series finale??

Weaver and Rogers filming at this set (X).

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2 minutes ago, Rumsy4 said:

Apparently, Lana, Beverly, and Keegan are filming now at the Snow and Charming statue (X). Wishverse for the Series finale??

What an appropriate alternative to bringing Ginny and Josh back.  They still get to stand there doing nothing.

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18 minutes ago, Rumsy4 said:

Apparently, Lana, Beverly, and Keegan are filming now at the Snow and Charming statue (X). Wishverse for the Series finale?? 

So a monument to the not really people that Regina murdered in Wish Verse

Or  back to Greek mythology and Medusa turned them into stone to explain why they aren't part of the finale at all or in more than brief cameo when they are saved. 

Or something one of those obscure fairy tales where people turn to stone.

Didn't Dark Emma turn a dwarf to stone at some point?

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Well, the press release sounds much better than the promo.

So nice to finally get an Alice centric.

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TILLY FIGHTS TO PROVE HER INNOCENCE WHILE ALICE FINDS HER WAY IN A LONELY WORLD AND FORGES AN UNBREAKABLE CONNECTION, 
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“The Girl in the Tower” – Rogers works to prove Tilly’s innocence in the case of the Blind Baker’s death, while Ivy attempts to make amends with Anastasia, and Samdi makes a revealing confession to Roni. Meanwhile, in a faraway realm, Alice forms an unbreakable bond, on “Once Upon a Time,” FRIDAY, MARCH 23 (8:00–9:01 p.m. EDT), on The ABC Television Network, streaming and on demand.

“Once Upon a Time” stars Lana Parrilla as Regina/Roni, Robert Carlyle as Rumpelstiltskin/Weaver, Colin O’Donoghue as Hook/Rogers, Andrew J. West as Henry Mills, Gabrielle Anwar as Lady Tremaine/Victoria Belfrey, Dania Ramirez as Cinderella/Jacinda, Alison Fernandez as Lucy, and Mekia Cox as Sabine/Tiana.

Guest starring in this episode are Rebecca Mader as Zelena/Kelly, Rose Reynolds as Alice/Tilly, Adelaide Kane as Drizella/Ivy, Emma Booth as The Witch/Gothel/Eloise Gardener, Daniel Francis as Dr. Facilier/Mr. Samdi, Yael Yurman as Anastasia and Tiera Skovbye as Robin/Margot.

“The Girl in the Tower” was written by Dana Horgan & Leah Fong, and directed by Antonio Negret.

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KingOfHearts

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38 minutes ago, rogvortex58 said:

ALICE FINDS HER WAY IN A LONELY WORLD

Just a small town girl.

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FORGES AN UNBREAKABLE CONNECTION

Okay, if this were a straight couple, they would not use this type of language. They would not be hammering it in how amazingly attached they are to each other.

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Gabrielle Anwar as Lady Tremaine/Victoria Belfrey

I know it's just showbiz, but it's weird that Anwar is still listed as a regular. She's probably going to be for the rest of the season. Yet, Kane and Mader are still just guest stars?

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Tiera Skovbye as Robin/Margot

Why does this make me think of Margot Robbie? Is it just me?

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