Spoiler Discussion: The apple was poisoned?!

[Vader12]

47 minutes ago, Stuffy said:

That's a fake website. I've never understood the point of it unless it's making money from the adds. Put in any of the actors names and laugh at the headlines. 

No matter. The guy who made gossip has not given official proof of anything like Larry did. So we can't officially trust them until the truth is revealed.

[Free]

Just now, Mathius said:

ABC would be smart to not renew it, since it's so freaking obvious that the already bad ratings will drop lower if they did.

It would, but we don't know how desperate they can be.

[Souris]

1 minute ago, Souris said:

Info about filming today:

#OnceUponATime will shoot tonight with Gosh, Lana, Colin, Bex, Karen David and Deniz akdeniz. No Bobby, Emilie, JMo or Jared.

JMo has wrapped for S6.

Looks like tonight is the group that apparently ends up in the EF in the finale. The ones not there tonight seemed to be in SB in the finale (apart from Belle, who we don't know anything about in the finale, I don't think).

[Vader12]

7 minutes ago, Souris said:

Looks like tonight is the group that apparently ends up in the EF in the finale. The ones not there tonight seemed to be in SB in the finale (apart from Belle, who we don't know anything about in the finale, I don't think).

What if it is a different scene like it is part of the one we saw with Snow, Hook and Jasmine in their enchanted forest clothes.

[PixiePaws1]

The guy playing the bar tender apparently filmed with Jen and Giles at CS' house. I am hoping it's because the bar tender was just ferrying too drunk to drive Emma home and not her trying for a 1 night stand....it was night filming so least not 'morning after' . I suspect convoluted Gideon plot. Maybe shape shifted to look like the bar tender to drug Emma ..we know they appear to be off together for quite a few scenes.

The writers are really making me angry at Emma dropping all her faith in Killian like a rock in one day....he went a whole year on her saying 'Good' and no hope of seeing her again...

[RulerofallIsurvey]

2 hours ago, superloislane said:

I'm not getting why anyone is angry with Emma for thinking Hook left town...he was about to do just that! He had packed a bag and was about to leave with Nemo but what, because he changed his mind two seconds before, Emma is somehow wrong to think he was about to leave???

1.  I'm not mad at Emma so much as the stupid writers IF that's the way it plays out in the episode (a condition which I stated in my previous post also.)

2. Emma didn't know - and as far as we know yet had no way of knowing that Killian was about to leave town on the Nautilus.  So based on what we've seen in the last ep, and the little spoiler, then yeah, as others have said, that's a big jump (as @Curio said) for Emma to make from telling him to go figure things out and come back to her when he's ready and believing that he's left and not coming back so she's packing all his personal stuff up and putting it out in the freaking shed.  (Seriously - that house isn't so full that she couldn't have found room in a closet at least.)

3.  He didn't leave - and the writer of last week's ep seemed to believe that he would have left a note if he was actually going to leave.  I think the note (had there been one) would have contained an explanation and reassurance that he was coming back - because that's the kind of guy he is.  If Emma had that reassurance, then there would be no reason for her to be packing all his stuff away.  

2 hours ago, woolmintons said:

Leaving his most treasured possessions back at their house should have been a huge red flag to her.  Imagine if they had had a huge fight when her secret came out and she gave every indication that she had left town for good (not that she would leave Henry, but humor me) and Hook walked into their bedroom to see her baby blanket and cigar box o' memories. Would he say "I'm going to shove Emma's most treasured objects, the ones she's literally carried through countless foster homes, the streets, prison and several states, into the shed," or would he take that as a sign that she's coming back when she's ready because she would NEVER leave those things behind for good?

Seriously - it gets even worse when you consider the centuries that Killian has held on to some of his things versus the few decades of Emma's treasured possessions.  And what would Killian think if he came home and found all of Emma's stuff there, but her inexplicably no where in sight after they had a fight?  Would he immediately think she'd left him?  No, he would think "Emma's in trouble!" and then set off to find her, not start packing her stuff away.

22 minutes ago, PixiePaws1 said:

The writers are really making me angry at Emma dropping all her faith in Killian like a rock in one day....he went a whole year on her saying 'Good' and no hope of seeing her again...

This right here.  And she knows that he did that!  And now she jumps to the conclusion after one night away and one fight that he's abandoned her?  

If they show Emma (drunk or not) with a one night stand it makes her look even worse after Killian turned down the prostitute the crew bought for him.  

[Vader12]

By looking at the bts photos from 20 to 22, it's giving me a thought of what the storyline might be and how it goes. Nothing official, just a thought.

Since the mentioning and talk of a rehash of the battle of Emma/Gideon and maybe a rehash of the wish realm (if I remember) it is possible that the photos of:

1. Emma (wearing this new jacket) and Regina giving a goodbye to Henry at the bus stop.

2. Emma and Deputy Hook solving crime when driving the Bug.

3. Black Fairy as maybe mayor of the town.

4. Rumple and Belle in this house.

5. Snowing and Prince Neal at the farm house.

6. Rumple and Gideon running the pawn shop titled Gold and Son

7. This wedding from ep 20.

It's possible those scenes are part of a wish realm to distract Emma or brainwash her like from ep 10, but then Henry might show up to try to save some people before the ambulance scene. And Henry's condition was probably caused by the Black fairy and she was probably pretending she was concerned if he was not okay. And it is possible that the Henry in the bus is another wish realm version of the real Henry. Henry might get better to undo the damage.

Now the photos of Snowing, Regina, Hook, and Zelena are probably in the enchanted forest to be kept out of the way by maybe The Black Fairy before they bump into and seek help from Aladdin and Jasmine. Tiger Lily and that Girl might be apart of it.

And the scene of Emma (in the famous leather jacket) and Henry in a sling (which might be because of the night battl since it was filmed that Jared had a stunt man) are having a moment or something. It is possible that they may have lost two majors they knew during the battle (if the writers are going there) and this scene might take place after the battle. And that scene might be what was teased to come full circle, back to where S1 began, where mother and son work together and where Emma is once again wearing her leather jacket.

Just a thought.

Edited March 31, 2017 by Vader12

[AshhyOut]

People have some insane standards for Emma. I don't see the big deal about her taking his stuff to the shed. It's practically the equivalent of someone unfollowing their SO on instagram and deleting all their pictures immediately after a fight, in other words a knee-jerk reaction to an extremely emotional event.

43 minutes ago, PixiePaws1 said:

dropping all her faith in Killian like a rock in one day....he went a whole year on her saying 'Good' and no hope of seeing her again...

It's not about that. Was anyone this pissed at Hook for not having faith in Emma forgiving him? I mean after all the times she forgave him or simply didn't care what he did, plus she went to hell and was ready to die in the Underworld for him. It's the same difference. All I saw was, "well Hook is extremely self-loathing so it's understandable that he didn't want to tell Emma even if he was wrong." In other words it wasn't about faith in Emma, it was about his issues. The same way this isn't really about Hook, it's about Emma's issues. Yeah they both have the same type of personal issues that affect their relationship. Imagine that.

Calling for unconditional faith or the level of faith that Hook fans want or whatever would be Belle. And Belle gets bashed all the time for Rumbelle. And Snow, Emma and co. gets bashed all the time for never having a realistic reaction to Regina or allowed to be mad at her. Well here you go, a realistic reaction.

[oncebluethrone]

2 hours ago, Mathius said:

Are they going to retcon the Black Fairy into somehow being responsible for every evil on this show?  Seriously?

I think that what Jen meant was that the Black Fairy created the dark curse.

[Souris]

Wow, LOL, Jen posted debunking that she has wrapped on S6 (which Kat had posted earlier and has now deleted).

I still have work to do on season 6. Your sources are incorrect. #Onceuponatime #emmaswan

Never seen Jen do that before!

[Curio]

8 minutes ago, AshhyOut said:

Well here you go, a realistic reaction.

The whole point being made is that Emma putting Hook's things in the shed isn't a realistic reaction based on what we know about her character. If Emma immediately forgave him, that would have been Belle behavior. Emma getting upset with Hook and putting the engagement on hold is realistic; immediately putting his things in the shed because he hasn't returned home in 24 hours isn't realistic. This is the same Emma who freaked out when Regina didn't call after one hour and tore the town up trying to find her. This is the same Emma who was able to use mirror technology to spy on Ariel and Eric to see how they were. There are so many canon events and characterizations that have to be ignored for Emma to immediately assume Hook ditched her that it's unrealistic. If they do a time jump and a week or two has passed, okay, that's different. But it's TS;TW. It's probably 12 hours at most. 

As usual, I think there's a huge disconnect between what the writers think they're showing on screen and how the audience interprets it. What I saw on screen was Emma and Killian getting into an argument, not an official break up, and Emma putting the engagement on hold. (I know many couples who continue dating after they put a wedding or engagement on hold after complications.) But now the show wants us to believe they officially broke up and 6x15 wants us to cheer on Emma getting drunk with her gal pals. What I saw on screen was Killian taking time for himself after Emma basically told him to figure things out and going to Nemo Rehab for a few days or weeks to get his life in order, but the show now wants us to believe that's the same as abandoning someone.

[Shanna Marie]

I could see Emma getting mad and putting his stuff in the shed if he'd been the one to walk out, if she'd told him what she did about them needing to work together on this, and he'd walked out in a huff and then never came back. But she was the one to walk away from him after making the big, symbolic gesture of handing the ring back. When you're the one to walk away, it's weird to then assume he's gone for good, to the point of putting his stuff out in the shed.

Not to mention that there are enemies in town. Rumple hates his guts and would love a chance to get rid of him. Gideon's something of a wild card. David just tried to kill the person he thought was responsible for his father's death, so how would he react if Hook had maybe gone and told him and there was no one to hold him back? There are the Untold Stories people we don't know about (and that they've forgotten). Can anyone just assume that he left voluntarily and isn't tied up in the trunk of Rumple's car (like another time when they assumed he just hadn't shown up), isn't tied up to a fence with his heart ripped out, isn't locked up in that psych ward basement they use as a prison, hasn't been grabbed by the evil Musketeers, or whatever?

The sneak peek scene just seems weird in context of the actual recent events, in context of their setting, and in context of Hook's behavior on the whole. The guy literally died for Emma, and after one fight when he doesn't come home, she puts his stuff in the shed and assumes he just ditched her.

[RulerofallIsurvey]

52 minutes ago, AshhyOut said:

People have some insane standards for Emma. I don't see the big deal about her taking his stuff to the shed. It's practically the equivalent of someone unfollowing their SO on instagram and deleting all their pictures immediately after a fight, in other words a knee-jerk reaction to an extremely emotional event.

I don't have insane standards for Emma.  I just want her to treat her former fiance with the same respect and faith which he treats her.  Or, is expecting and/or wanting equity in a relationship insane?  I guess if you're a RumBelle shipper it is.  

A knee-jerk reaction of unfollowing your SO after a fight is pretty high school Drama Queen.  I didn't realize Emma was a thirteen year old at heart.  That is not how adults should behave, especially not adults in a committed relationship (committed enough to be engaged).  YMMV.

[woolmintons]

She told him to get his shit together and then they could talk. She's asking for his trust and she's not giving it in return. Trusting him would mean believing that he left to do what she asked, not that he left FOREVER and is never coming back. She's apparently immediately jumping to the worst possible conclusion and it's a real disservice to the character and her development over six seasons.

I'm also tired of the double standards and the uneven relationship. They write a whooooole scene in the episode not to be named where he has to basically ask permission to see her box o' memories, and then apparently she's just looking through his sea chest where he felt it was safe enough to hide the ring. Emma has said downright ugly things to him before, and fandom's response was "He's a big boy, he can handle it," but when Emma violates him, curses him against his will, and he calls her an orphan, their response is "He's an abusive asshole for what he said to her and deserves to die." They write Hook as noticing if the slightest thing is wrong with Emma, yet the dude looks like he would rather drink bleach than have some of these conversations, and they have Emma completely oblivious to it. We've joked before about Hook disappearing from town and no one noticing, but it's totally true.

But apparently I'm filled with ~internalized misogyny~! Emma’s just my ~self-insert~ because my lady parts make my brain go bluuuuuhhhhhhh when Colin’s on screen! Hook's some poor tragic cinnamon roll blob that Emma's just oh so mean to and forced into proposing. How dare she! This is all her fault! If only she hadn't snooped through his things!</s>

I'm not saying Kilian Jones deserves better. I would never say that. I'm not saying he's without blame. Emma has every right to be pissed at him for proposing while keeping the secret and for trying to destroy his memories. She has every right to give the ring back. He fucked up. What she doesn't have a right to is to immediately act like he's never coming back when there is evidence right in her fucking hands that he intended to come back and that maybe he was doing as she asked? Instead, I'm thinking Emma, honey, you are a smart woman. You know how important these things are to him. He kept them all of these  years, just like you have. Please have more faith in your TRUE LOVE than that. Your relationship should be shaped by your past experiences with HIM; instead you're treating this a though he isn't utterly devoted to you, you followed him to the Underworld and were willing to split your heart with him, and the dude likes to go off and brood and deal with shit on his own.

They took the time to put the freaking scene of her looking through his sea chest. It's not just her picking up just Liam's ring because it was on a table. They specifically showed her looking at ALL OF THESE IMPORTANT THINGS AND THEN IGNORING THEM.

Snow's job in the narrative is apparently to be contrary at times, maybe she'll point this out to her daughter. If they'd let her have a conversation with Emma, that is. Also, why deal with the main character's relationship before her wedding when we can have a Zelena/Oz centric!

[Curio]

7 minutes ago, woolmintons said:

Also, why deal with the main character's relationship before her wedding when we can have a Zelena/Oz centric!

What will there be left to resolve? There'll be a quick 2-minute scene at the end of "Awake" where everyone hugs and makes up and no one will talk about this fight ever again. On to Zelena's random plot!

[daxx]

My theory on the finale based on the spoilers we have plus various tumblr discussions I've seen is that the Black Fairy recasts or uncasts the original curse and the bulk of the cast goes to the EF, Emma, Henry, Rumple not sure who else stay in Storybrooke but they are memory cursed like in season one and the BF is the mayor. Those that are dumped back in the EF change clothes magically and when the curse breaks they return to Storybrooke in the formal wear they were wearing at the wedding/ reception where they were when the curse was cast. That is the scene we saw last night, the EF group returned to Storybrooke in the wedding clothes.

Perhaps someone dies (Rumple) hence the emotional scene with Henry and Emma talking about losing his grandpa.

In the middle of the episodes hijinks occur in the EF involving the beanstalk and in Storybrooke stuff with the Black Fairy.

The seeing Henry off to school, scene at Snowings farm, scene with Zelena and baby and the CS sheriffing scene are part of a final montage. They live happily ever after.

 

I have no idea how those two people cast fit into any of this.

[Curio]

5 minutes ago, daxx said:

I have no idea how those two people cast fit into any of this.

They're either brought in because of the Black Fairy's curse, or they're random people who meet up with the gang in the Enchanted Forest.

[Mathius]

1 hour ago, AshhyOut said:

Calling for unconditional faith or the level of faith that Hook fans want or whatever would be Belle. And Belle gets bashed all the time for Rumbelle.

Except that Emma is being like Belle, but in reverse.  With Belle, she for the longest time gave Rumple unwavering faith and support despite knowing full well what he was like - she was in total denial.  With Emma, she knows full well what Hook is like and the level of his passion for her, especially with what they went through in Season 5 (they got confirmed as True Love in the Underworld!), and yet she's in denial about that and instead assumes the worst of him.  It should be obvious to her that Hook would never abandon her, just like it should be obvious to Belle that Rumple would betray her. 

Edited March 31, 2017 by Mathius

[superloislane]

I have genuinely seen people on this board more upset at Emma for going through Hook's sea chest, putting his stuff in a shed and 'forcing' him to propose to her (even though it's impossible to force a grown man to propose to you because he's supposed to have a backbone) and bringing these things up over and over again in discussions than I have seen people upset with Hook for proposing while lying to Emma, burning his memories, not trusting that Emma would want to marry him after learning about what he did even though she's forgiven him for a lot of other things, wanting to leave on a submarine while a killer is after his love and...oh yeah, hiding the fact that he murdered one of Emma's family members! I love Hook but come on!

Just go through a few of the threads for a couple of minutes and you'll see what I mean. Everyone can have their opinion but it's just been bugging me. The reaction to Emma is 'they're wrecking her character!' while the reaction to Hook is 'poor Hook, he deserves better, he's now my favourite character!'

[Curio]

Maybe we continue this conversation in a place that's not the spoilers thread, since it's not really about spoilers anymore...

[AshhyOut]

1 hour ago, RulerofallIsurvey said:

I just want her to treat her former fiance with the same respect and faith which he treats her.  I guess if you're a RumBelle shipper it is.  

A knee-jerk reaction of unfollowing your SO after a fight is pretty high school Drama Queen.  I didn't realize Emma was a thirteen year old at heart.  That is not how adults should behave, especially not adults in a committed relationship (committed enough to be engaged).

What faith and respect? Hook doesn't have faith in Emma. He asks for her trust all the time, from the first moment they met as strangers and he never gives her that trust either. It goes both ways. He's never ever voluntarily confided in her about anything. They have the same story over and over again, both of them. Emma hides something, it comes out, she apologizes and swears no more secrets and Hook is usually standing right there being a hypocrite keeping his own secret. That's respect? Of course he's like "I'm so horrible" yadda yadda and angst over hiding his secret so that's ok, it comes out and Emma's like so? Kiss. End of story, repeat.

And yes a knee-jerk reaction is childish and immature and taking his stuff out to the shed is the stuff drama queens are made of. Emma is childish and immature. That's always been established onscreen and she herself admitted it. Practically all the characters have called her out on that. She's never quit feeling like that orphaned kid everyone left and Hook hasn't overcome his issue either.

55 minutes ago, woolmintons said:

Emma, honey, you are a smart woman. You know how important these things are to him. He kept them all of these  years, just like you have. Please have more faith in your TRUE LOVE than that. Your relationship should be shaped by your past experiences with HIM

Emma isn't smart and has never been smart! We're talking about the chick that got bamboozled by Sidney here and spent an entire freaking season getting outsmarted by Regina. None of these characters are smart! Well why didn't Hook have more faith in Emma? Since they've been in a relationship, when has she ever not forgiven him about anything?

 

55 minutes ago, woolmintons said:

Also, why deal with the main character's relationship before her wedding when we can have a Zelena/Oz centric!

Well at least Zelena's fun and she's hasn't had a centric or real screentime in forever. And dealing with the main character's relationship is tired and has been over done. I mean this taking out his stuff to the shed stuff is dealing with their relationship. Who wants to watch that. Hook and Emma's problems while realistic don't make for riveting tv.

 

11 minutes ago, Mathius said:

It should be obvious to her that Hook would never abandon her

Just like it should be obvious to Hook that Emma wouldn't ever not "forgive" him? Even when they weren't in a relationship she didn't hold a grudge or cut him off from her life. 

[formerlyfreedom]

Topic please. This is the Spoiler Discussion topic.

[Kktjones]

3 hours ago, daxx said:

My theory on the finale based on the spoilers we have plus various tumblr discussions I've seen is that the Black Fairy recasts or uncasts the original curse and the bulk of the cast goes to the EF, Emma, Henry, Rumple not sure who else stay in Storybrooke but they are memory cursed like in season one and the BF is the mayor. Those that are dumped back in the EF change clothes magically and when the curse breaks they return to Storybrooke in the formal wear they were wearing at the wedding/ reception where they were when the curse was cast. That is the scene we saw last night, the EF group returned to Storybrooke in the wedding clothes.

Perhaps someone dies (Rumple) hence the emotional scene with Henry and Emma talking about losing his grandpa.

In the middle of the episodes hijinks occur in the EF involving the beanstalk and in Storybrooke stuff with the Black Fairy.

The seeing Henry off to school, scene at Snowings farm, scene with Zelena and baby and the CS sheriffing scene are part of a final montage. They live happily ever after.

Yep. I think this is exactly what happens. I guess the only question is how long the whole gang is separated. I REALLY hope that we get some of the wedding reception in 6x21 and they don't whisk everyone off to the EF at the end of 6x20 or the very beginning of 6x21. I mean the reunion scene is cute and all, but I'd much rather have everyone together during the majority of the ep. It just feels like 6x10/11 and 5x22/23 with everyone separated.

[RulerofallIsurvey]

3 hours ago, AshhyOut said:

What faith and respect?

Just like it should be obvious to Hook that Emma wouldn't ever not "forgive" him? Even when they weren't in a relationship she didn't hold a grudge or cut him off from her life. 

responding in ep thread.

[Souris]

12 minutes ago, Kktjones said:

Yep. I think this is exactly what happens. I guess the only question is how long the whole gang is separated. I REALLY hope that we get some of the wedding reception in 6x21 and they don't whisk everyone off to the EF at the end of 6x20 or the very beginning of 6x21. I mean the reunion scene is cute and all, but I'd much rather have everyone together during the majority of the ep. It just feels like 6x10/11 and 5x22/23 with everyone separated.

Sadly, the spoilers seem to indicate that the group is separated the entire finale until the end. As with the S5 finale, which is incredibly frustrating.

Edited April 1, 2017 by Souris

[KAOS Agent]

Did we ever establish whether Gideon died in the battle in the street? 'Cuz I really need him to die.

[Vader12]

1 minute ago, KAOS Agent said:

Did we ever establish whether Gideon died in the battle in the street? 'Cuz I really need him to die.

Did we also establish whether one or two of the regulars die in the street as well? If so, I guess it might be covered like how we saw in the BTS photos of Swan Song not seeing anything on who gets killed or how they mostly don't show any funerals to public.

[Mathius]

It's reported that Rumple dies, and I really believe it now that I see he isn't there at the final battle with Gideon, meaning:

1. He dies before that battle, probably killed by Gideon.

2. He IS Gideon in the final battle, taking Gideon's place so that his son doesn't have to either become a killer or be killed.

[Rumsy4]

Maybe Gideon has already been de-aged by Rumple, and is with Belle (both of them ~unconscious, of course). Then, Rumple takes Gideon's place and fights Emma. Or Rumple already died sacrificially while offing the Black Fairy a la Pan. 

[Kktjones]

Can someone explain why Rumple would "take Gideon's place" and fight Emma? And even if he did, why would he make himself look like Gideon. I've seen this theory more than once, but I don't get it.

[Camera One]

I just watched the Sneak Peek at the bar.  Now I'm looking forward to the episode even less, if that's even possible.  Of course, Snow has to be stuck to Regina, and played for laughs at a bar.  Why would Emma be packing up Hook's stuff already?  Are they fast-forwarding a month during which Gideon isn't trying to kill Emma?  Henry is just sitting there listening to music?  Shouldn't he be preparing a basket with wine and cheese?   I don't forsee any satisfying family scenes in this episode at all.

[Rumsy4]

Exactly!!

[Camera One]

I'm curious if the writers will give a reason why Regina isn't trying to help wake up David instead of going to a bar for some drinks.

[Rumsy4]

Why isn't Snow trying to wake up David and break the Curse for good??

[justmythoughts]

Why worry about the new sleeping curse? Snow and David had been separated for 28 years, now they can leave messages, vídeos, sleep well even with a baby at home... And while awake Charming can hide secrets and Snow can talk to her buddy Gina and have shots. Isn't that the perfect life? I guess according to A&E it is.

[Vader12]

8 hours ago, Mathius said:

It's reported that Rumple dies, and I really believe it now that I see he isn't there at the final battle with Gideon, meaning:

1. He dies before that battle, probably killed by Gideon.

2. He IS Gideon in the final battle, taking Gideon's place so that his son doesn't have to either become a killer or be killed.

Where's the link to it. Cause of there isn't one, then this is trolling.

[Serena]

1 hour ago, Vader12 said:

Where's the link to it. Cause of there isn't one, then this is trolling.

This is the spoiler thread, so we usually call it "speculation" instead of trolling.

I also believe Rumple will die, since it's the only ending that makes sense for the character. Unlike with Regina, I believe A&E COULD go through with it. Will they? IMHO, yes, but they've suprised me (negatively) before.

[formerlyfreedom]

The site rule is 'Be Civil' - no one has to 'prove' anything in the topic, as it's a spot to discuss spoilers and spoiler related speculation.  Differing opinions are fine. Please treat each other with respect, or warnings (or more) may occur.

[Vader12]

From reading that interview with Eduardo, he mentioned about all of Emma's leather jackets he designed. And when mention that she will wear a newer version of her classic (as in leather jacket) jacket, sounds more like she will be wearing a new leather jacket at the end of the season finale (even though he said at the end of the series, which he might mean season). That might explain the scene of Emma kissing the forehead next to Granny's and the bug. That jacket we saw Emma wore when next to Henry and Regina near the bus stop is not leather, so I am beginning to doubt (not officially) that that counts for the new version of the classic leather jacket.

And even though Eduardo slipped out Wedding out of his mouth, Adam mentioned he doesn't know (as though maybe he doesn't what it is really for) on twitter, before he erased his answer. That might clue us that the wedding for ep 20 might not be what we think. Like some people might have speculated, it might be in Emma's head like in the wish realm or something. Don't know it, but one can't be too careful for the unexpected.

[Serena]

Emma and Hook are wearing wedding bands after 620, though, so the wedding clearly goes through. Maybe someone has the pictures, but I remember them being posted in this thread a few days ago?

[Vader12]

34 minutes ago, Serena said:

Emma and Hook are wearing wedding bands after 620, though, so the wedding clearly goes through. Maybe someone has the pictures, but I remember them being posted in this thread a few days ago?

I know that. But as Adam may have hinted if I remember, some of the scenes from the musical is not what we think we think it is. That made me unsure right now. What if that was really for a different scene like being part of a wish realm. That's probably what Adam meant by saying he (Eduardo) doesn't know. Right before he removed his answer from Twitter a few seconds later, like he does with some things he answered as a hint and spoiler. I mean after all, five of the regulars are seen in the enchanted forest wearing Fairytale clothes. Also, every filming scene is out of order and are not always what they seem.

Edited April 1, 2017 by Vader12

[Serena]

I think Adam is lying, TBH. This reminds me of Eduardo also spoiling some big stuff some seasons ago... I want to say he spoiled the S3 finale by talking about Hook's costume in it?

[Shanna Marie]

1 hour ago, Serena said:

This reminds me of Eduardo also spoiling some big stuff some seasons ago... I want to say he spoiled the S3 finale by talking about Hook's costume in it?

All he said was something about Hook being a prince. Then speculation ran amok about Hook's background, but it turned out only that Hook was posing as "Prince Charles." I don't think there was any actual spoiling, just rampant speculation (and I may end up owing him a fruit basket because my own speculation on that ended up giving me a great story idea for something entirely different).

[Vader12]

34 minutes ago, Shanna Marie said:

All he said was something about Hook being a prince. Then speculation ran amok about Hook's background, but it turned out only that Hook was posing as "Prince Charles." I don't think there was any actual spoiling, just rampant speculation (and I may end up owing him a fruit basket because my own speculation on that ended up giving me a great story idea for something entirely different).

Like I said, some things are not what they seem sometimes and like Adam already said, "he doesn't know".

Edited April 1, 2017 by Vader12

[PixiePaws1]

With Emma holding Killian's shell necklace in the promo for this week i have been thinking she will propose to him while he is in another realm. Not in that specific scene but later on. I also think Nemo could marry them while they are physically separated using the shells ..leading to the 2nd  big wedding in the musical ep (just like Snowing had 2) that gets interrupted by BF shenanigans. 

[KAOS Agent]

Everyone is dressed to the nines during the final battle except Emma. David is smoking in his tux (and I'm really shallow about this, so I think this needs more focus). If there isn't a wedding going on that was interrupted and everyone sent elsewhere, why the hell else are these people all dressed up? These are the idiots who have Granny's as their go to celebration destination.

Edited April 1, 2017 by KAOS Agent

[Mathius]

The good news: the finale won't be another Emma/Regina adventure, since Regina is confirmed to be EF-ized and stuck with David, Snow, Hook, and Zelena alongside Aladdin and Jasmine (and yes, Deniz Akdeniz was finally confirmed to be involved, not just Karen David).

The bad news: the finale will be another Henry adventure.  *head, meet desk*

[Vader12]

This girl visited the set this past week and just posted some photos.

All mains dressed in modern attire in the caves. Belle also has her wedding ring on, so it looks like RB is back together by this point.

Edited April 2, 2017 by Vader12

[formerlyfreedom]

This is NOT the spot to discuss past episodes. This is the spot to RESPECTFULLY discuss spoilers. Calling other posters names, being rude, etc, will get you suspended and/or banned.

 

[sharky]

I think we already had some idea that they were going to use the cave set after discussion from people who went on the VanCon set tour that they were working on that set so that's some interesting confirmation. What the hell is going on there?