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Aaaand I take back everything I just speculated about the first episode... 

 

From Twitter:

 

Colin O'Donoghue has filmed with the #Frozen cast and says he has a new costume! #OUAT #OnceUponATime

 

(Unless it was just a fitting)

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Petition for more Josh Dallas in tight-fitting t-shirts please

 

Co-signed. Maybe he can go do some more fairy dust mining. I'm still upset that they had him in that horrid sleep shirt in the missing year. What would possess them to skip the wonderful opportunity for shirtlessness?

 

On a more spoilery note, still not at all interested in anything Frozen related. And if Hook dated (courted?) Elsa or Anna in the past and they even try to throw a wrench like that into Hook/Emma, I'm done with this show.

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Hah. Even on a Saturday night, Adam is around to crush spoilers:

Adam Horowitz ‏@AdamHorowitzLA  6m
@katmtan only been shooting a few days but no and no to that.  #nospoilers :)  Colin hasn't filmed yet.

 

Katrina Tan @katmtan  ·  48s
@AdamHorowitzLA okay! Maybe misheard he had a fitting and met them

 

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One of the girls on twitter says she has a scoop on Josh's beard and its relationship to filming. I don't know if that means he might actually have it on the show or what. Don't know how that would work unless it's a flashback.

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And the speculation frenzy begins! :-)

 

That's a weird tidbit on Josh's beard.

 

Oooh, James flashback????? David/James' father????

 

Here's more beard Twitter news. (LOL.)

 

 

 

Lindsay B @lemon_buzz  ·  15m

Josh Dallas told me he hasn't filmed yet & isn't sure if he's going to be allowed to keep the beard for filming but he thinks he will #OUAT

 

How's that going to work if it really is only 10 hours since the Zelena-portal crisis? I mean, I have a friend who we joke that his superhero name is Quickbeard, because he grows a beard so quickly. But Josh's level of beard is still a bit too much for my friend overnight. 

 

It really will be like Real Husbands of Storybrooke with David trying to copy his bro Hook.

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To be fair, Charming's hair grew magically in the two minutes in between when the Jolly Roger entered the whirlpool in S2 and when it surfaced in Neverland in S3, and it wasn't really a big deal. Maybe that's Charming's magical power that he kind of contributed to Emma's magical-ness. ;)

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To be fair, Charming's hair grew magically in the two minutes in between when the Jolly Roger entered the whirlpool in S2 and when it surfaced in Neverland in S3, and it wasn't really a big deal.

 

Hair growth is unpredictable inside a vortex portal to another realm, Adam and Eddy Rule # 183492749817349174.

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Oh, I want it to be James. I want the beard to mean something.

 

Maybe that's Charming's magical power that he kind of contributed to Emma's magical-ness. ;)

And he can regenerate his sword too.

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Let's not forget the reverse curse and its ability to magically regrow the rat's nest on Snow's head. And I don't know what was up with Neverland, but it was wreaking havoc with Ginny's eyebrows. Since I doubt she had a pencil with her and Pan's eyebrows were so fantastic themselves, I believe he used the magic of the land to mess around with them daily.

 

And who is not surprised that the main cast has not been filming yet this season? The premiere is going to be all Frozen all the time, isn't it? We'll be lucky to even get a glimpse to judge the main cast's hirsuteness. Also, did you know that hirsuteness is actually a word?

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Let's not forget the reverse curse and its ability to magically regrow the rat's nest on Snow's head. And I don't know what was up with Neverland, but it was wreaking havoc with Ginny's eyebrows. Since I doubt she had a pencil with her and Pan's eyebrows were so fantastic themselves, I believe he used the magic of the land to mess around with them daily.

 

And who is not surprised that the main cast has not been filming yet this season? The premiere is going to be all Frozen all the time, isn't it? We'll be lucky to even get a glimpse to judge the main cast's hirsuteness. Also, did you know that hirsuteness is actually a word?

 

From the spoilers, it seems like we'll also get Regina drama unfortunately, but yeah it's this and Frozen fanservice.

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I'm gonna be positive and say I don't think it's that bad. So they started on the 9th and filmed Wednesday, Thursday and Friday for the flashbacks. They don't film on the weekends, and then Monday the main cast will start. It usually takes 8/9 days to complete one episode, so the flashback stuff filmed would be one third of the total filming time. Yes, it's annoying that after 4 months of waiting, we won't get 100% main cast, but I don't think the flashbacks scenes will be really that much.

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I'm gonna be positive and say I don't think it's that bad. So they started on the 9th and filmed Wednesday, Thursday and Friday for the flashbacks. They don't film on the weekends, and then Monday the main cast will start. It usually takes 8/9 days to complete one episode, so the flashback stuff filmed would be one third of the total filming time. Yes, it's annoying that after 4 months of waiting, we won't get 100% main cast, but I don't think the flashbacks scenes will be really that much.

 

It's not just the Frozen stuff, but we'll also get the same villain stuff (mostly Regina), while the main characters are more sidelined because the writers have more to deal with on their plate.

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Am I the only one who things the flashbacks for Frozen are more appropriate for episode 2.  Episode 1 should be about dealing with the fallout of the time travel.  They could just bring Elsa in the last 10 minutes when people start realizing there's something off with the weather.

 

Also, I feel for the actors having to wear jackets, it's going to be 31 celcius in Vancouver today.

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I think they basically had to start with the Frozen flashbacks because a lot of people will be tuning in after the Frozen promotion, and if they only got a brief Elsa scene there would be protests. So I believe the smartest course of action would be give people great Frozen flashbacks so they get hooked and come back for episode #2 when, hopefully, they will go back to our main cast. But TBH, I would prefer a second Frozen flashback over a Snowing/Regina one. 

 

What I really want for episode 2, though, would be an Emma flashback to underline the similarities between her abusive childhood and Elsa's.

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What I really want for episode 2, though, would be an Emma flashback to underline the similarities between her abusive childhood and Elsa's.

 

Emma didn't have an abusive childhood.  She was just fiiiine!

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Episode 1 should be about dealing with the fallout of the time travel.

 

I honestly think the writers they already dealt with it in the last 10 minutes of "There's No Place Like Home".  Regina is the only one who needs to deal with any long-term repercussions and that will be multi-episode.  

 

 

 

I think they basically had to start with the Frozen flashbacks because a lot of people will be tuning in after the Frozen promotion, and if they only got a brief Elsa scene there would be protests.

 

Yeah, I don't think the Zelena's green face being the last scene (NYC Serenade style) will fly with this premiere.  

 

Since Elsa has to be doing *something* in Storybrooke to parallel the flashback story, I assume that someone will find her in the first episode so she has someone to "communicate" with.  I suppose they could just have Hook or Emma or Rumple finding the urn.  It depends how long they will keep Elsa as the false villain, before Elizabeth Mitchell shows up (ugh - though... that could be the "surprise" at the end of the first episode).

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I suppose they could just have Hook or Emma or Rumple finding the urn.

 

There is no urn to find,. The first thing Elsa does when she reforms is freeze the urn so that it disintegrates.

 

I wonder who they are going to have say "Let it go" (how can you not) and to whom?

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I'm hopeful, with Jennifer saying that Emma and Elsa will have parallels of the "unwanted powers" kind after reading the 401 script, that it will be Emma finding Elsa. Regina will have to deal with the oh-so-tragic breakup from her boyfriend of four days. Snowing will have Prince Terrible Name. Rumbelle will be honeymooning. We know Emma has the line "It's only been 10 hours since the last crisis!" so I'm hoping she will be on the front line.

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We know Emma has the line "It's only been 10 hours since the last crisis!"

 

Dang, so Elsa really gets an early start on her freezing-the-town agenda. So much for the element of surprise, like Cora did.

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One of the people who talked to Colin and Josh insisted on Twitter that Colin did actually say he's done some filming and that Adam is just trying to cover that spoiler. I could totally see that. I could also totally see that with Colin's accent, "fitting" could be misheard as "filming." So who knows.

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Dang, so Elsa really gets an early start on her freezing-the-town agenda.

 

Meanwhile the actual town of "Storybrooke" is going to be in the mid-80s all week. Wonderful time to be wearing a winter coat.

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One of the people who talked to Colin and Josh insisted on Twitter that Colin did actually say he's done some filming and that Adam is just trying to cover that spoiler. I could totally see that. I could also totally see that with Colin's accent, "fitting" could be misheard as "filming." So who knows.

Which one is it? I know lemon_buzz has some pics, did someone else talk to him?

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Do we actually know that Storybrooke will be, ahem, frozen?

 

I mean, it was snowing in Storybrooke a few days prior and the actors generally wear jackets, but I think we're just assuming at this stage that the town will be freezing and they will all be in scarves and mittens, right?

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Which one is it? I know lemon_buzz has some pics, did someone else talk to him?

Yea, that quote came from Kat something. She posts good spoiler info, but I feel icky reading her tweets sometimes since it seems like she's almost stalking the show's production. So either she talked to Colin or saw him going into the studio or recognized his car and assumed he was filming with the Frozen actors when he wasn't.

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It's this guy who thinks Adam is lying. He was there, but also seems to have a bit of a chip on his shoulder. 

 

Yeah, him. I don't know anything at all about the Vancouver spoilerphiles and their histories with the show, but info one gets online is always subject to the "grain of salt" caveat.

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He's pretty rude. On one hand, he's often right (he was right about Neal being killed off, but it was also kind of obvious to everyone); on the other hand, Adam very rarely outright lies, he usually just misdirects. And he didn't need to address this thing at all (nobody tweeted it to him, he spontanously decided to reply to a random tweet).

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Adam very rarely outright lies, he usually just misdirects. And he didn't need to address this thing at all (nobody tweeted it to him, he spontanously decided to reply to a random tweet).

Yeah, that was my take. If it were true, he'd have been better off ignoring it than straight-up lying. 97% of people who watch the show would never know. Although why was Adam up on a Saturday night searching Twitter for spoilers, I can't say. Maybe he wasn't invited to the soccer.

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She looks like Kathryn a little bit in that picture, lol.

 

I would think Elsa would be wearing more makeup in her face, though. Elsa has an iconic thick eyeliner. It looks like photoshop to me.

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I think it looks photoshopped also. Georgina posted this on twitter:

If you must know this isn't me, but my cousin Princess Someonelsa.

So I guess it's not her.

Also, those earlier pics of what people thought were Colin's stunt double were actually a Hook impersonator. The same one that kissed Lana's hand on stage at a recent convention.

https://mobile.twitter.com/tomabaud

Both cases of people wanting their 15 minutes of fame I suppose.

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That seems a little crazy to Photoshop the Elsa photo. I wonder if it'sher stand in or something. So bizarre to see someone go that fat for a photo though. Is this what this show has become in terms of popularity?
 

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I barely recognize him!  The hair may be less Kristoff than his previous shaggy hair, but...I'm not complaining.  Ooof.  *fans self*

 

These casting directors really know how to pick the man candy. 

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Hmmm. That's an odd connection there. Though being trapped in an urn is rather akin to being trapped in a genie's bottle or mirror.

 

I guess it's possible that because of scheduling, they had to film something of his at the same time as the Frozenbacks, but it might not be connected.

 

Or it could be connected! Whatever it was, it sounds pretty short.

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People have always gone crazy for Once photos. Add the Frozen element, and I have no doubt people will go to great lengths.

 

Especially as the media will be more interested than usual in any proven pics even if they're fuzzy.

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I'm betting there's a connection between Elsa's urn and the Genie's bottle. Maybe the urn had to be "cursed" with a similar spell as the bottle, in order to contain someone as powerful as Elsa?

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A line of dialogue? Anna to whoever urned up Elsa? Anna to Rumple?

Or someone saying it to Elsa and then someone defending her -- just because she can freeze things with her touch, it doesn't make her a monster, and it's not her fault.

 

If the magic that urned Elsa is like genie magic, does that give Hook three wishes? After all, she was freed because he took the urn out of the cabinet. Maybe he should get one wish as partial credit.

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