Current Plots Discussion: Actually Today's Episode

[Mama No Life]

Honestly Abby deserves to be alone and miserable. She's the only one who has made poor choices and she is punishing Chad for daring to love someone else.  Also her hair and make-up offend me.

[Silver Raven]

2 hours ago, nilyank said:

So after all that the power of porn, Nicole saved pervie's marriage and now he is eternally grateful. They took a creepy, boring story and ended it up just boring.

And they did it off screen.  Jeez, Show. No payoff.

Jebus, Claire, shut up!

"You've completely turned your life around, Nicole."  Er, she's on the run from the law, Brady.

Damn, Marci, slow your delivery down.

Hm.  I thought Claire was sending Wyatt the stuff on Ciera, but she was on her tablet at the time he got the email. Who else would it be?  Clearly not Theo, he was jealous of Wyatt.  Please don't let it be Chase?

Does Claire really think Theo would be happy with her if she actually did a sex tape without telling him?

[Rowan]

Thank, God! I'm glad she left. She's right. Who wants to be married to someone who can't even pretend he's not in love with another woman. She did it for both of their sakes and I applaud it. And, yes, Gabi is still trying to be noble, but maybe she's also smart enough to know that, even if she and Chad give it whirl, he's still going to love Abigail, too. I just wish they'd really hammer that point instead of all the "you should be with Abigail because, well, I'm the one who wants to be the bigger martyr!"

sucks to be you, Chad. 

[DisneyBoy]

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Brady got to show his macho side. Who knew he had a macho side! lol

Kristen did. He's "mind-bendingly virile" remember? Wait - is that different from macho? Whatever. She knew he was allll that!

And Brady also beat up Eric and John over her.

[rcc]

19 minutes ago, DisneyBoy said:

Kristen did. He's "mind-bendingly virile" remember? Wait - is that different from macho? Whatever. She knew he was allll that!

And Brady also beat up Eric and John over her.

Beating people up in the Kristen days. Yup, Macho Brady. How could I forget!

[Frozendiva]

Scooter being afraid of Brady? He has more brain cells! The Kiriakis name may go a ways in Salem or regionally in the US, but not Manitoba.

Scooter and Hilary did get a decent ending to the creepy storyline. I would have hated Nicole having to degrade herself for some blackmailing sniveling dude such as Scooter. He could easily call the RCMP - by the time they'd show up Nicole and Brady would be long-gone.  At least Hilary was game for Scooter's fantasies and they are getting their dysfunctional relationship back on-track. Bye, we won't miss you.

Claire, talent usually does win out. A sex tape is all shades of wrong. Unless you are already established. And Theo would not take too kindly to be used for your 'career' and his dad certainly won't. It's very cheap and notwithstanding Theo's autism, a bit low. He is not fame-hungry like you seem to be. Leave him out of it.

Who is feeding Wyatt the info? Chase? I think I mentioned him as a suspect but it seemed a bit odd at this point. Going to all the trouble for what?

Chad, Gabi and Abby need to be alone right now to figure out who they are and what they want. Gabi is a 'for now' for Chad; Abby is maybe endgame, maybe not.

[DisneyBoy]

Wait - Claire wanted to have sex with Theo to make a sex tape? To help her career?

Dena, Dena, Dena....

Yep, I'm really not going to be watching this now.

 

We could have had Claire and Chloe teaming up to further their careers...or heck, Claire working on an album...or actually having vocal lessons at college...or maybe tensions between Marlena and Claire over her desire to go into an industry as unpredictable as music...but no. Obviously kids these days just want to make sex tapes to become famous and sell music...just like Kim Kardashian, right? I mean, that's like literally the only way to really make an impact, right? Like yeah! YOLO! Hashtag! Epic!

*bangs head against wall*

Edited April 19, 2017 by DisneyBoy

[Vyk]

Nicole finally admitted her feelings for Brady.  It's at least good to see them come together this time without any lies or schemes or manipulations like Nicole had tried when Brady was with Chloe and Arianna.

Still not into nuJade, but I love that her reactions were essentially "couldn't give a shit" when Claire was bitching and moaning about her fans losing interest in her.

Chad and Abigail do need some time apart to figure out what they want.  I know Abigail wants Chad, but she knows that Chad needs time to figure out if he really wants her, too.  As for Gabi . . . she'll get Chad for a while, I think, but it's clear the show's testing her with Eli (whom they also seem to be testing with Lani, despite each having a parent dating each other right now, which is a bit creepy).

[Bwill3133]

I wish they wouldn't have rushed Chad and Gabi but I still like them. It's not going to happen for them because neither Abigail or Gabi want Chad when he's torn. And who would to be honest? For Abigail, Chad has made it clear she is the one he wants despite his feelings for Gabi. He couldn't just turn them off immediately and Abigail didn't really understand that.  I am thankful Chad called her out for being a martyr and faking her death. MM has actually made like Abby but she is partly to blame for this. 

So Nicole's drama was all solved off screen? That's great. 

[FnkyChkn34]

So I caught up on Monday's (I think) episode, and it was all kinds of awful.  Reminded me why I hadn't watched in a few weeks.

I did, however, like Andre's description of Gabi.  She is narcissistic and aggressive and selfish and all those things he said.  Not to mention a kidnapper and convicted murderer.  And the idea of Gabi as a pitching coach???  WTF?  That's beyond absurd.  Chad and Gabi together make me want to puke; no wonder I got sick with the flu over the weekend.  Gabi was best off in prison.

[Mama No Life]

So John's not back for good?  Boooohiiiiiisssss.    Still, nice for a bit. Only good part of today's show.

Deidre Hall is still the best crier in the business. 

[Apprentice79]

1 hour ago, FnkyChkn34 said:

So I caught up on Monday's (I think) episode, and it was all kinds of awful.  Reminded me why I hadn't watched in a few weeks.

I did, however, like Andre's description of Gabi.  She is narcissistic and aggressive and selfish and all those things he said.  Not to mention a kidnapper and convicted murderer.  And the idea of Gabi as a pitching coach???  WTF?  That's beyond absurd.  Chad and Gabi together make me want to puke; no wonder I got sick with the flu over the weekend.  Gabi was best off in prison.

I have always hated Gabi. Most people feel that she was Nick's victim. I never saw her that way.. I remember her being okay with Nick's homophobia, his hatred of Wilson.  She was complicit in his cruelty. She only got rid of him to keep her misdeeds a secret.  Plus, I hold her responsible for Jack's death. Her obsession with Chad led to disastrous results. I don't understand why Dena felt the need to make Chad/Gabi, the greatest love of all.

[FnkyChkn34]

22 minutes ago, Apprentice79 said:

I have always hated Gabi. Most people feel that she was Nick's victim. I never saw her that way.. I remember her being okay with Nick's homophobia, his hatred of Wilson.  She was complicit in his cruelty. She only got rid of him to keep her misdeeds a secret.  Plus, I hold her responsible for Jack's death. Her obsession with Chad led to disastrous results. I don't understand why Dena felt the need to make Chad/Gabi, the greatest love of all.

Exactly, it's like no one remembers her complete obsession with Chad, or that she kidnapped and nearly killed his girlfriend.  Gabi is a basketcase, but yet fans dislike Rafe instead and think Gabi is the good Hernandez?  I don't get it.

[Apprentice79]

33 minutes ago, FnkyChkn34 said:

Exactly, it's like no one remembers her complete obsession with Chad, or that she kidnapped and nearly killed his girlfriend.  Gabi is a basketcase, but yet fans dislike Rafe instead and think Gabi is the good Hernandez?  I don't get it.

I am team Julie in her dislike of Gabi. Is Julie whitewashing Nick? Yes! we tend to remember a loved ones' qualities, over their faults, after they have passed.  Plus, Julie had a moment with Nick, before he was murdered, where he wanted to change his life for the better. In Julie's mind, Gabi robbed him of that.  She is in her right, to not want Gabi to be with her grandson.  

Edited April 19, 2017 by Apprentice79

[Silver Raven]

32 minutes ago, FnkyChkn34 said:

Exactly, it's like no one remembers her complete obsession with Chad, or that she kidnapped and nearly killed his girlfriend.  Gabi is a basketcase, but yet fans dislike Rafe instead and think Gabi is the good Hernandez?  I don't get it.

Gabi did not kidnap Melanie.  She did know about it after the fact and didn't do anything about it, but she wasn't involved in the kidnapping.

[FnkyChkn34]

7 minutes ago, Silver Raven said:

Gabi did not kidnap Melanie.  She did know about it after the fact and didn't do anything about it, but she wasn't involved in the kidnapping.

I thought she hired the guy??  If she didn't, then who did?  

EDIT:  Here's the blurb from Wikipedia:

"To make Chad worry over her, she pretended to have a stalker, writing fake threatening notes. Chad had Gabi move in with him. So further keep up with her lie, she hired a guy named Andrew to pose as her stalker. Eventually, Andrew's actions became too much and Gabi told him to stop. He ended up kidnapping Melanie, to Gabi's knowledge. Andrew blackmailed Gabi into not telling anybody about Melanie. The truth was eventually revealed, and Chad hated Gabi for it."

Close enough.  She knew and never helped.  Chad should still hate her for it.  Gabi knew before Andrew blackmailed her.

Edited April 19, 2017 by FnkyChkn34

[nilyank]

40 minutes ago, FnkyChkn34 said:

Gabi is a basketcase, but yet fans dislike Rafe instead and think Gabi is the good Hernandez?  I don't get it

Gabi confessed to her crime and had to give up her daughter.  Rafe has committed crimes covering for Sami,  Hope and Gabi but he still gets to keep hos badge and act as if he is better than the criminals that he arrests. That is enough for me to dislike him more.

 

Gabi hired the guy to help stalk her in her quest to get Chad. Things just complicated when he decided to kidnap  Melanie on his own and took her underground where there were these dangerous underground gases that explodeed when the guy died/got killed. 

Edited April 19, 2017 by nilyank

[FnkyChkn34]

3 minutes ago, nilyank said:

Gabi confessed to her crime and had to give up her daughter.  Rafe has committed crimes covering for Sami,  Hope and Gabi but he still gets to keep hos badge and act as if he is better than the criminals that he arrests. That is enough for me to dislike him more.

How many times has he lost his badge and had to work/beg for it back?  At least twice that I can remember.  Isn't that why he's not in the FBI anymore?  He's smug but they are all smug.  That can't be the litmus test for me.

[Silver Raven]

They need to keep reminding Tripp that Ava killed Kayla's father.

I hope Drake is fully healthy.

Steve was so good in his scenes with Tripp today.

Yay, Tripp, I don't like chowder, either.  :)

[kitmerlot1213]

1 hour ago, FnkyChkn34 said:

How many times has he lost his badge and had to work/beg for it back?  At least twice that I can remember.  Isn't that why he's not in the FBI anymore?  He's smug but they are all smug.  That can't be the litmus test for me.

The fact that Rafe keeps losing his badge because of his stupid hypocritical choices makes me wonder how he keeps getting jobs in law enforcement.

Re: Gabi's shooting Nick and Julie being a bitch to her--yes, Julie had one touching moment with Nick where she might have gotten through to him but then he turned around and started acting hateful again.  Gabi shot him, she got convicted and she did her time.  Julie doesn't like that Gabi got out early then she needs to talk to the department of corrections and stop bothering a private citizen.

And to point out Andre's calling Gabi names when he is a criminal and killer in his own right as though he is a moral authority on how people should behave is damn laughable.  It's almost as awesome as Victor's telling off Eric--when a horrible human being calls you out, you know you've got problems :):)

[LadyJaney]

20 hours ago, Frozendiva said:

Who is feeding Wyatt the info? Chase? I think I mentioned him as a suspect but it seemed a bit odd at this point. Going to all the trouble for what?

I think it's Claire, personally.  She's a bit nutzo when it comes to keeping Theo to herself and away from Ciara.  What better way than to have Ciara find a guy who is just so very much like her in every way?!  Plus Claire was a little OTT happy about Ciara's new man in her life.  Push push push...

Gross if she films a sex tape and lets it go public.  Is that what you really want fame for, Stupid?  And poor Theo.  I can't imagine what that sort of personal humiliation would do to him...

Tripp is gorgeous and the actor who plays him is far better than most of the young crew on this show right now.  How old is he supposed to be anyway?  I figure at least 21 or just that age, since he's out having beers everywhere.  Is he in the same age bracket as JJ?  They are cousins, perhaps they should become pals...

[lilly6]

How many of us look at Roman manning the bar at the pub and immediately think "Oh, Chris Kositchek is back!"  Giggle. 

So...Sparkle and Sonny don't even get to kiss on screen now? The most they can do is grin foolishly at each other? Such a letdown, especially since Mafia Sonny is not working for me at all. 

[Silver Raven]

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I think it's Claire, personally.

I thought it was Claire, too, until the other day when Wyatt got a text message at the same time as Claire was watching reactions to her latest video.

[Frozendiva]

Jade, the Johnson family isn't going to look after you permanently. You are no longer Joey's girlfriend. OD'ing on pills is not a good idea and he is not going to keep caring for you. The jig is up. You lucked out with his parents paying your tuition and paying your rent and board for a semester. Give it a rest and stop using him.

Tripp, do listen to your dad. The Vitali money comes at a price. Getting drunk at the pub? And having a former cop and police commissioner drag you to the police station? You needs to grows up.

Nice to see John again.

[bannana]

1 hour ago, Frozendiva said:

Jade, the Johnson family isn't going to look after you permanently. You are no longer Joey's girlfriend. OD'ing on pills is not a good idea and he is not going to keep caring for you. The jig is up. You lucked out with his parents paying your tuition and paying your rent and board for a semester. Give it a rest and stop using him.

Tripp, do listen to your dad. The Vitali money comes at a price. Getting drunk at the pub? And having a former cop and police commissioner drag you to the police station? You needs to grows up.

Nice to see John again.

Why wouldn't Trip take that money?  It is ridiculous to suggest that a young man would not take that inheritance.  Steve hurt his chances with Trip by telling him to not take the inheritance.  He should try to help him with dealing with this windfall.

[teacake]

9 hours ago, Silver Raven said:

They need to keep reminding Tripp that Ava killed Kayla's father.

This.

So, so bitter about having to listen to the bogus Steve/Ava history again.  Really, Steve, Ava was "wild, a free spirit, hopeful, sweet, a good person"?  Really?  Being with Ava was "a happy season" in his life?  It's never pointed out that Kayla was still mourning him then and mired in her grief while he was romping with a mob princess.  He didn't know that then, but he knows that now.  But go ahead and look back fondly, Steve, and soft pedal the psycho who repeatedly tried to destroy everything that mattered to the woman you are offering up as selfless to your new kid.

Fuck Dena and her agenda, and what they've done to my couple's story.  And fuck the scriptwriter too for good measure.  I can't believe I stuck around for this.

[Frozendiva]

10 hours ago, bannana said:

Why wouldn't Trip take that money?  It is ridiculous to suggest that a young man would not take that inheritance.  Steve hurt his chances with Trip by telling him to not take the inheritance.  He should try to help him with dealing with this windfall.

If it's a trust fund that is free and clear, yep, take the money. Steve, help him deal with his windfall - investing it  and not blowing it at various bars and buying big expensive trucks. If it's Vitali crime family related, yep, take the money but sit on it for a while, til you see what if any cost it has to you. Some uncle or whatever showing up out of the blue should be a red flag. A Vitali family lawyer or accountant/adviser, maybe or maybe not.

Steve, do tell Trip(p) about the real Ava. Yes, she may have had a wild, free spirit side, but she was also kinda nuts.

[swtrgrl]

15 hours ago, lilly6 said:

So...Sparkle and Sonny don't even get to kiss on screen now? The most they can do is grin foolishly at each other? Such a letdown, especially since Mafia Sonny is not working for me at all. 

It's so wrong. I mean, I'm not pro or anti PaulSon but if you've got a couple you want us to back, SHOW us their love/passion. A kiss (beyond that forehead one that was chaste enough for it to be with Ari) is appropriate. 

I cringed my way through their scenes, btw. CRINGED. Freddy is just...horrible. Poor Christopher. If you're not feeling it, why come back? It's like he's acting in his MLM sales pitch voice. That's not Sonny. 

[kitmerlot1213]

Man, but Julie is a cow!  She's bemoaning to Hope that she should have kept David closer to her and forced him to accept her mothering and when she realizes how futile "what ifs" are,  she decides to take her anger out on Gabi.  Gabi offered to explain just how horrible Nick was but Julie didn't want to hear it and instead started to call Gabi names--seriously, "a man-eater?"  Are we in the 1950's now?

Good for Gabi for mentioning Alice Horton--Alice was a genuinely kind person who gave everyone a fair chance and there isn't a single Horton on the show today who does that.  I also liked Gabi calling Julie out on being a nasty hypocrite--she actually asked Gabi why she wasn't home with her daughter?  Yes Julie, please question another woman's mothering abilities because by your own mouth you did such a great job with David.

Edited April 20, 2017 by kitmerlot1213

[Mama No Life]

DIE JULIE DIE

 

Even though we know you're faking

[boes]

1 hour ago, kitmerlot1213 said:

Man, but Julie is a cow!  She's bemoaning to Hope that she should have kept David closer to her and forced him to accept her mothering and when she realizes how futile "what ifs" are,  she decides to take her anger out on Gabi.  Gabi offered to explain just how horrible Nick was but Julie didn't want to hear it and instead started to call Gabi names--seriously, "a man-eater?"  Are we in the 1950's now?

Good for Gabi for mentioning Alice Horton--Alice was a genuinely kind person who gave everyone a fair chance and there isn't a single Horton on the show today who does that.  I also liked Gabi calling Julie out on being a nasty hypocrite--she actually asked Gabi why she wasn't home with her daughter?  Yes Julie, please question another woman's mothering abilities because by your own mouth you did such a great job with David

 

40 minutes ago, Mama No Life said:

DIE JULIE DIE

 

 

I second that emotion.

Great posts!

 I'm going to watch today because this I have to see, if for no other reason to reaffirm my belief in Julie's steadfast awfulness.

[nilyank]

How is Gabi a maneater. Her first boyfriend was Will and the reason they broke up was because he was gay.

Then she was interested in Chad but she want nutty on him and Melanie, so they did not get together.

She married Nick whose character was taken to an ugly and dark path from his previous time in prison and it badly for him. There was a whole lot of people that ended up wanting him dead.

Her last boyfriend was JJ and he ended up cheating on her.

Although she loves Chad now, she is not involved with or going after him.

Finally, for all the complaints Julie makes about her early release from prison, she was thrilled that Hope was freed and no one is going up to Hope saying that she should still be there. And if Gabi wasn't released early, Arianna would essentially be an orphan with Will being murdered

[swtrgrl]

Is it too much to ask for her to lose her voice? I can not stand that harpie shrill sound. AARGH. 

Totally Team Gabby on this one.

[Chick2Chic]

I am not a Gabi fan but I despise KM's smug, vain Abby so even though MM is a far superior and non-cold Abby in comparison, my hate for the character remains. So I'm on Gabi's team by default. Then again, I've never cared for BF's Chad, so it's a triangle that ranks as one of the worst ever for me. 

[FnkyChkn34]

11 minutes ago, Chick2Chic said:

Then again, I've never cared for BF's Chad, so it's a triangle that ranks as one of the worst ever for me. 

This.  So much this.  I miss Casey Deidrick, and as I've already sad, I can't stand Gabi.  Abby is meh.

[Silver Raven]

Jebus, NBC cannot keep itself from interrupting for non-news news breaks at 1 PM Pacific time.

So we get half of the show, starting with Julie being a bitch to Gabi. Good for Gabi for standing up for herself.

Gee, Julie is feeling a lot better.  I wonder why?

Didn't get Show long before they got Tripp naked, did it?

How could Julie NOT want Doug to be called?  Because she's faking, that's why.

Er, Valerie, wouldn't you be able to tell from Julie's stats whether she took her blood pressure meds or not?

[kitmerlot1213]

Man, Julie's simpering act with Hope, Eli and Valerie while she was in the hospital bed rivaled KM's Abby in the sickening department--I really hope Eli figures out that Grandma is a great big faker and turns his back on her but somehow I think he'll start to resent Gabi for upsetting Julie's delicate constitution.  Oh, I almost made myself dizzy with the sarcasm :):)  But this is just Julie being concerned y'all and not her being an interfering old busybody.  Alice would be so proud--NOT!!

[WendyCR72]

Julie is annoying to the nth degree. Still, I despise Gabi (and, no, this is not because of Abby; this version is just there. KM's was awful...), so even if it is a shrill hypocritical harpy like Julie making Gabi miserable, I'll still gladly take it.

UO? Maybe, but I'm happy at my table of one!  :-)

[Mama No Life]

I didn't know people didn't like Billy Flynn!   I missed several years and only returned when the old couples did, but I had forgotten there was another Chad.  I LOVE BF....I think he's way too good for this show.

I like Gabi and I think she's lovely but someone needs to be her friend and tell her to NEVER tuck hair behind her ear.  Wowza.

[LadyJaney]

8 hours ago, kitmerlot1213 said:

Good for Gabi for mentioning Alice Horton--Alice was a genuinely kind person who gave everyone a fair chance and there isn't a single Horton on the show today who does that.

Amen to that, the Hortons are a far cry from their predecessors, Alice and Tom!

My word, Julie is a miserable hag!  I am not the biggest Gabi fan in the world, but i don't mind her and was cheering her on when she told truth to Julie about what a horrible bitch she is!  Julie was being awful to her, I hate the way she treats some people, especially Gabi.  And what an awful thing to do, faking a heart attack to keep Gabi away from Eli!  The hell?!

And Eli is just too much of a whiny little bitch for my taste.  Didn't like his reaction toward Gabi, he wasn't there to see what led to it.  Also, he isn't very nice to his mom.  He's not some teenager with anger issues, he's a grown ass man, who just seems to tantrum-like.  He's a good-looking guy, but that's all he is as far as I'm concerned. 

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Didn't get Show long before they got Tripp naked, did it?

True, but no complaints here! Mrs Robinson over here is finding Tripp to be extremely attractive! I liked Tripp's scenes with Kayla today, even didn't mind them with Joey.  Just not liking this version of Jade though, and don't want to see him get tangled up with her.  There really isn't any point to Jade being there anymore.  You just know that she will be the one who spills it to Tripp about Joey killing Ava...

Always love a Steve/Adrienne scene so today was good for that!  Also just love the romance that Steve and Kayla have.  He adores his sweetness, and she loves him right back!

[Vyk]

7 hours ago, nilyank said:

How is Gabi a maneater. Her first boyfriend was Will and the reason they broke up was because he was gay.

Then she was interested in Chad but she want nutty on him and Melanie, so they did not get together.

She married Nick whose character was taken to an ugly and dark path from his previous time in prison and it badly for him. There was a whole lot of people that ended up wanting him dead.

Her last boyfriend was JJ and he ended up cheating on her.

Although she loves Chad now, she is not involved with or going after him.

Finally, for all the complaints Julie makes about her early release from prison, she was thrilled that Hope was freed and no one is going up to Hope saying that she should still be there. And if Gabi wasn't released early, Arianna would essentially be an orphan with Will being murdered

How lightning didn't strike Julie, or how she didn't suddenly catch fire on the flames of hell, I don't know.

At least Gabi seemed to realize that Julie was faking the heart attack.  I was hoping that Hope seemed to smell a rat, too, but I was disappointed that she didn't seem to.  I did love her shutting Julie down at the police station, though, and letting her know that Nick was no innocent.  Interesting that Julie admitted that, too, though.

Eli . . . I still think he has some issues with Valerie to work out.  But I still don't know which way the show's trying to make him go.  Toward Gabi?  Or toward Lani?

Edited April 21, 2017 by Vyk

[boes]

There's a sure fire cure for Julie, one I think they should try immediately.

Doug can play the ukelele at the funeral and they can bury her with Nick.

[Frozendiva]

Eli, run from both Gabi and Lani.

Julie, just shut up. You don't like Gabi. The whole town gets it. Faking a heart attack or whatever is not the way to manipulate things to get what you want. Your grandson is in his mid-30s, probably. He can do whatever he likes and does not need your approval. Perhaps someday you will actually need help and Gabi or really anyone, will simply walk away.

Or get together with Jade to show her how it is done. Yes, Jade, we get it - you have nowhere to go so latch on to Joey til something better comes along. And now it has in the form of Tripp. Idiot. Best off to find some sort of job, get your own place and be your own young woman.

Adrienne going on vacation/camping?

[Vyk]

19 minutes ago, Frozendiva said:

Eli, run from both Gabi and Lani.

And what's wrong with Lani?  Given his obvious mommy issues and the fact that he has the grandmother from hell, Lani should run from him.

[Frozendiva]

13 minutes ago, Vyk said:

And what's wrong with Lani?  Given his obvious mommy issues and the fact that he has the grandmother from hell, Lani should run from him.

She's Abe's daughter. It might be awkward for Abe to date Valerie if her son is dating his daughter.

[teacake]

3 hours ago, LadyJaney said:

Always love a Steve/Adrienne scene so today was good for that!  Also just love the romance that Steve and Kayla have.  He adores his sweetness, and she loves him right back!

I thought their vibe was really weird today, to be honest.  Steve floating away down memory lane about the videos of Ava pregnant with his baby with Kayla sitting next to him and saying nothing was... off.  So was worrying about what Tripp's feelings about pictures of the place where Kayla almost died.  But none of it matters because "she's the best!"  Their not talking about anything but Tripp is getting really awkward and bizarre.

[DisneyBoy]

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She's Abe's daughter. It might be awkward for Abe to date Valerie if her son is dating his daughter...

I somehow doubt that would bother anybody in Salem (glances towards the Hernandez Family siblings and their romantic histories).

I caught Wednesday's episode and the big Marlena/John reunion and I thought it was...okay. They were sweet and Deidre's crying was believable...

...but Drake's acting continues to hit the same notes it always has and the writing hasn't improved too much either. I don't understand how a guy who was a millionaire CEO in the public eye for decades can be an ISA agent so valuable and unidentifiable they send him out on missions in his seventies.

Marlena should be so sick of his "can't talk about my mission!" schtick by this point.

And their exchange about the resurrection of Stefano sounded like he was congratulating her on finding a deal at the grocery store. It further minimized what should have been an impactful storyline.

I'm still not over the Stefano/Prague stuff you guys.

I basically ignored the rest except that great scene with Kayla at the loft. I'm sorry - the scene that Mary Beth Evans made great at the loft. She really schooled those two kids on how to act. A lesser actress would have just taken the lines of dialogue from Kayla and spat them out at Jade with venom and condescension. Kayla managed to walk this line of being an authoritative figure while still being empathetic yet firm. She could have come out looking angry or cruel - it was after all kind of a smackdown scene - but instead my admiration for her practically tripled. The woman has been paying Jade's rent and her tuition and living expenses after Jade refused to walk away from her son all because she wanted to give the girl a chance. Then she finds Jade trying to use pills to hurt herself to keep her son interested and what did she do? She lays it all out but doesn't do a thing to actually hurt Jade or demean her. Class Act. Mary Beth painted into those lines of dialogue the best of intentions on Kayla's part and filled that otherwise empty moment with a lot of humanity.

For a long time I found Kayla really boring because all she ever did was show up to play Doctor. I'm so glad if nothing else in this last year I have had a glimpse of what a wonderful actress this woman is when she's given more than one thing to do. It's a shame that her storylines haven't been interesting to me in the least.

Edited April 21, 2017 by DisneyBoy

[Apprentice79]

In Julie Vs Gaby, I am team Julie.  I am in the minority and that is okay. I despise Gaby.

Gabi herself independent of Nick did some really terrible things younger Chad, getting involved with Andrew, Nick's initial attempted murder and cover up, going along with Nick to deny Will of his child, and there are others). So I don't really see why Julie should want to give her a pass.  I was pissed when she brought up Alice's name to shame Julie. Alice would not be too happy about her killing Nick.  Alice was the biggest cheerleader for Jack and Jennifer.  She knew all about the evil things that Jack did.  Alice would not try to hurt Gabi, but, she would not be her fan either.  Alice was always protective of her family.

It would be natural that Julie would want to be overly protective of a grandson she never knew about and who is the legacy of her son David. I also don't see why she should just "get over" the fact that Nick was murdered especially when she was the last to see him and had hope that he was going to attempt to change. They bonded. I would have a hard time believing that in real life  that someone in Julie's position would just let Nick's murder slide and be all cool with Gabi getting involved in yet another Horton relationship.   I am a big Will fan, and I hated it when the show tried to make him into a mini Sami.  He did some shady stuff before he died. If Ben got released in Prison, do you think that Sami, Lucas and Kate would be happy with Ben walking around and attempting to date Stefanie or Theresa, or any member of the Brady, Horton or Roberts clan. They would be livid and rightly so.  I am surprised that Ben did not meet a ghoulish end in prison. 

[Chick2Chic]

1 hour ago, Apprentice79 said:

I If Ben got released in Prison, do you think that Sami, Lucas and Kate would be happy with Ben walking around and attempting to date Stefanie or Theresa, or any member of the Brady, Horton or Roberts clan. They would be livid and rightly so.  I am surprised that Ben did not meet a ghoulish end in prison. 

I don't think they would've cared but then I don't see those three as a unit of any sort. Sami barely interacted with Theresa when both were on the show together mostly cause TPTB seemed to forget Theresa was a Brady for the most part in terms of interacting with her maternal family. I wanted Sami and Theresa to interact but TPTB stuck Theresa in the Kiriakis family stories or with Eve/Paige. Reminds me of how Kayla acted like she is only Abby's aunt and not Sami's too back in 2014. Theresa is with a cartel member currently and no one in her family seems to care nor does her child's father. Hell, Shane spent more time getting Hope off regarding Stefano's murder than he did trying to help his own daughter from being blackmailed to be with a crazy ex. Kate's personality re: who she likes and/or cares about changes constantly. I recall her being blase about Will's murder and funeral with needing to get back to work quickly rather than mourning. I don't see why should would care about Stephanie at all and her feelings about Theresa were storyline dependent.  TPTB don't care about Lucas. 

Edited April 21, 2017 by Chick2Chic
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[Apprentice79]

7 minutes ago, Chick2Chic said:

I don't think they would've cared but then I don't see those three as a unit of any sort. Sami barely interacted with Theresa when both were on the show together mostly cause TPTB seemed to forget Theresa was a Brady for the most part in terms of interacting with her maternal family. I wanted Sami and Theresa to interact but TPTB stuck Theresa in the Kiriakis family stories or with Eve/Paige. Reminds me of how Kayla acted like she was only Abby aunt and not Sami's too back in 2014. Theresa is with a cartel member currently and no one seems to care. Hell, Shane spent more time getting Hope off regarding Stefano's murder than he did trying to help Theresa from being blackmailed to be with a crazy ex. Kate's personality re: who she likes and/or cares about changes constantly. I recall her being blase about Will's murder and funeral with needing to get back to work quickly rather than mourning. I don't see why should would care about Stephanie at all and her feelings about Theresa were storyline dependent.  TPTB don't care about Lucas. 

The show has been horrible in developing the relationships of the legacy children in the Brady family.  I remember how Kim, Kayla, Bo, Rojohn and Roman always interacted with another. They were always close no matter what they were each going through in their personal lives. I remember how Kim was so good with Bo, after Victor was revealed to be his biological father.  Assuring him that did not change anything and that he was still a Brady.  Not to mention, Kim thought that she was pregnant for Victor, thanks to Emma's machinations. Theresa grew up with Stefanie and Andrew and she never even mentions them. I remember during Papa Shawn's funeral how Stefanie was asking Kim about Jeannie and Andrew.