Bethenny Frankel: Skinny Girl

[shoegal]

No, I am not trying to shame anyone, I just stated a fact.

That's not a fact, that's your opinion.

[Trooper York]

I am not shamed by much. But I must admit that I am ashamed that I saw Bethenny pee on television.

 

Twice. 

 

Edited May 28, 2015 by Trooper York

[WireWrap]

That's not a fact, that's your opinion.

Yes, it is in fact my opinion, as I stated in my initial post.

[shoegal]

Yes, it is in fact my opinion, as I stated in my initial post.

Great, we agree! You have your opinion and I have mine.

[Trooper York]

 

SHAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Celia Rubenstein]

Trooper you love it and you know it.  I bet that shot of Bethenny peeing is your screensaver. ;-)

Edited May 28, 2015 by Celia Rubenstein

[QuinnM]

No. These are not the fame seekers that the HWs are. IMO, these are just 2 older parents doing something to help their son/DIL on her show an were repaid with cruelty by their DIL and her fans.

Nope I do not think we get to rate the fame ho-ness from 0 to Omarosa. Once they signed on it to the show I say at least a 50.

His parents are fame hoes. They took money to be on a reality show. Now you may rate them 20. But not 0. 0 is someone who says no thank you.

[WireWrap]

Nope I do not think we get to rate the fame ho-ness from 0 to Omarosa. Once they signed on it to the show I say at least a 50.

His parents are fame hoes. They took money to be on a reality show. Now you may rate them 20. But not 0. 0 is someone who says no thank you.

Did they get paid? You personally know they got money for being on the show?

[Lisin]

Hi everyone! Just a friendly reminder that this is supposed to be fun! I'm seeing a lot of snark towards fellow posters. If you don't want comments to start going poof please dial it back some when talking to/about each other. Say what you want about Bethenny but remember to be nice to each other. Thank you. 

[Trooper York]

Sorry baby but this is my screen saver:

 

 

A pivotal moment in Housewives History!

[Celia Rubenstein]

Classic!

[QuinnM]

Did they get paid? You personally know they got money for being on the show?

At the time the discussion was standard $. So I don't know what standard is. I'm guessing less than Luanne but I don't know the going rate for entry level fame hoing.

[shoegal]

Nope I do not think we get to rate the fame ho-ness from 0 to Omarosa. Once they signed on it to the show I say at least a 50.

His parents are fame hoes. They took money to be on a reality show. Now you may rate them 20. But not 0. 0 is someone who says no thank you.

Yes!! Bryn is a 0, she didn't sign up. Grandma and Grandpa Hoppy did, so, fair game.

[zoeysmom]

Don't recall if this was ever brought up on this thread about Bethenney...but does anyone know what ever happened to Bethenny's boyfriend Jason 1.0 ?

 

I know he was divorced and a father of three when he dated Beth. Plus I recall reading that he was later fired from his financial firm shortly after Real Housewives' New York season one due to his appearance on the show having supposedly violated a term of his employment (TV appearances?) I think he was suing.

 

But other than that, ...what ever happened to him? Did he re-marry? 

I just remember reading that the woman who fired him for appearing on a reality show ended up doing her bits on a reality show.  http://fortune.com/2011/03/03/distressed-diva-reality-tv-for-me-but-not-for-you/

 

Nothing about his personal life but his career seems to be okay.

[Celia Rubenstein]

Yes!! Bryn is a 0, she didn't sign up. Grandma and Grandpa Hoppy did, so, fair game.

 

Bryn is golden.  No one wants to bash Bryn.  As far as the rest of the fameho's go, it's open season - on them just as much as it is on Bethenny,

[WireWrap]

At the time the discussion was standard $. So I don't know what standard is. I'm guessing less than Luanne but I don't know the going rate for entry level fame hoing.

From what others, like S Barney (Tamera OC ex) and several other "friends" have said, they do not get paid. Alex/Simon said that he did not get paid. LuAnn filmed as a full HW and was not downgraded until after the season was filmed and edited. The Hoppy Srs were not on the show on any regular basis. I do not believe that they got paid any money, I believe they were treated like most "friends of" - are no pay.

Bryn is golden.  No one wants to bash Bryn.  As far as the rest of the fameho's go, it's open season - on them just as much as it is on Bethenny,

Bryn is the only innocent in that group!

[Bossa Nova]

Thanks Zoeysmom. Seeing his last name on that link enabled me to google him. Yep, no info about his personal life (at a brief glance). But he has landed on his feet career wise continuing in the financial industry. 

 

 

http://www.bloomberg.com/research/stocks/private/person.asp?personId=26322029&privcapId=47294485&previousCapId=47294485&previousTitle=Colbeck%20Capital%20Management

[Trooper York]

The man dodged a bullet.

[Celia Rubenstein]

Why were they ever together?  The guy already had three kids and was in no rush to settle down with anyone again. He gave Bethenny a drawer at his place, that was his idea of living together, lol. They wanted totally different things out of life.  And he was so quiet.  I always felt like he was trying to gently shush her down without actually saying it.  Like he was in this soft pain.   Why do people like that even get together?  And why on earth did he agree to be part of the show?  Did people just not realize what a clusterfuck it was back then? 

[Padma]

Bethenny peeing in an ice bucket. Oy. I think I'd forgotten about that moment. The woman is shameless. I hope that bucket was burned. She's had a lot of shameful moments on TV, but at least she's skinny, right?

I hope Bryn is a fat woman's studies major who rejects her mom's philosophy and lives on a cooperative farm or something really hippyish. Preferably in Hazeldon, PA.

ETA: I don't knew whether to laugh or to cry for a kid who grows up in a household where being fat could be considered an act of rebellion.

And where "fat" means 15% body fat.

 

Everyone hopes for a happy life for Bryn, of course, but having seen so many years of Bethenny, I'd find it really nice if "happy" meant "not a materialistic fame whore", that Bryn grew up as someone sweet, sincere and unpretentious, a girl who had friends from all walks of life, including...gasp! middle class, even working class friends from Hazelton, PA.  (In other words, she was the anti-Bethenny.)

Edited May 28, 2015 by Padma

[Trooper York]

Bethenny would disown Bryn if she had working class friends from Pennsylvania. No sir! Not going to happen!

 

Her only friends can be personal assistants, nannies, doormen and the occasional rich kid from boarding school.

[sleekandchic]

Don't recall if this was ever brought up on this thread about Bethenney...but does anyone know what ever happened to Bethenny's boyfriend Jason 1.0 ?

I know he was divorced and a father of three when he dated Beth. Plus I recall reading that he was later fired from his financial firm shortly after Real Housewives' New York season one due to his appearance on the show having supposedly violated a term of his employment (TV appearances?) I think he was suing.

But other than that....what ever happened to him? Did he re-marry?

Other than what you've posted here, Bossa Nova, I haven't read any updates on Jason 1.0.

I was skeptical when I first read that J 1.0 had lost his job because of his appearances on RH, but now that you've mentioned tv appearances were proscribed in his employment contract, his termination does make sense.

I was impressed with him at the time when he refused to discuss his and B's future on camera. He indicated... not here, not now, even though Bethenny pressed and seemed desperate to finalize a plan. I gave her credit too because once Jason 1.0 made his position clear, she quietly accepted it. No on-camera meltdowns or fightfests. Very un-Bethenny.

Edited May 28, 2015 by sleekandchic

[zoeysmom]

Why were they ever together?  The guy already had three kids and was in no rush to settle down with anyone again. He gave Bethenny a drawer at his place, that was his idea of living together, lol. They wanted totally different things out of life.  And he was so quiet.  I always felt like he was trying to gently shush her down without actually saying it.  Like he was in this soft pain.   Why do people like that even get together?  And why on earth did he agree to be part of the show?  Did people just not realize what a clusterfuck it was back then? 

Here is my guess Bethenny is pretty, petite and out going and he probably fell in love with her and she fell in love with his stability I think he was being supportive when he agreed to appear and initially it was at a charity benefit where Bethenny had donated her personal chef services as an auction item.  I do believe Bethenny does need to quiet down a bit she says absolutely crude things and for nothing more than shock value.  I cringe when I hear this pretty, successful motherstarts  talking about her balls, and get off my jock and braiding each others' pussy hair. I also him cringe when Bethenny grabbed a pair of chop sticks and threatened to stab Jill's fucking eyes out during Bethenny's birthday dinner.   If a man spoke that  way in mixed company he would be chastised and deservedly so. 

 

Bethenny sucks at relationships so you don't have to.

[sleekandchic]

Well let's see, it's been 20+years and Bethenny is still on tv trashing her mother....

Bethenny lives in fight mode based on what I've seen. She enjoys it.

Yes, I agree that Bethenny enjoys the fight. I think it's part of her fabric.

A while back, she talked about her racetrack life as a young girl and adolescent. She had gone to California to live with her dad for a while. And she hung out with the track denizens quite a bit.

So I dont know if the combative, foul-mouthed, staccato-styled Bethenny is as a result of her DNA or of her life at the track. (In fact, I went back to read Joe Torre's comments on his friend, Bobby Frankel, and Joe said Bobby was quiet, introspective and soft-spoken. So we would need to know Bernadette's personality to gauge Bethenny's DNA.)

I tend to think B liked the attention she received from the racetrack characters, and picked up their style of speech and attitudes to fit in best. Once she matured and became an attractive, hot girl, the guys must have showered her with attention. I remember her meeting up with an old (and he was at least 20 years her senior) friend from the track, and he gifted her a silk teddy for her birthday.

Commenting on it in her TH, she said "Holy inappropriateness!" which was funny and clever, but, imo, inaccurate. B Im sure used her sensuality and sexuality from an early age. Of course, that's only my opinion.

B is a great TV character, but I feel sorry for the "average, hohum," "real people," e.g., the Hoppys, who stumble into her orbit. No contest there.

I hope we dont one day get a VERY SPECIAL ID Discovery where one or more of these people gets pushed too far! And I'm only hafl-kidding!

[sleekandchic]

I am not shamed by much. But I must admit that I am ashamed that I saw Bethenny pee on television.

 

Twice. 

 

Peepee on camera at the Four Seasons! Was it in an ice bucket or a floral planter? I remember Julie, but who is the guy in the photo? Restaurant or a Betheny employee? Poor guy!

Ive been to the Four Seasons a couple of times after seeing that episode, and I ALWAYS think of Bethenny peeing! Its like a tattoo on my peabrain! ;)

Seriously, why allow that to be filmed, then shown? Exhibitionism.

She played a tough chick assassin in a movie once (with a trashy sex scene, incidentally). Maybe she learned her tough demeanor on set, lol

I kinda want to see this movie because I have a love of all things camp and it sounds so bad it's good

Oh really?! Gotta check IMDB. She has definitely lived a colorful life, ja? :)

[sleekandchic]

On a slightly serious note -- admittedly as a peripheral, tv-watching, stranger -- I continue to be concerned over Bethenny's comment last episode.

She said that Bryn "is having a hard time right now."

I believe the custody issue had been decided by the time of filming that episode.

So what is Bryn's hard time about? Her adults should not be allowing that. At all. If anything, the pretense of normality should be in highest gear.

Bryn has been surrounded since birth with MANY people. Parents, grams, nannies, skinnygirl employees, friends and hangers-on. Camera crews.

Her parents traveled many times, leaving Bryn behind or in the care of others.

So, the tumultousness of daily life is nothing new for Bryn, imo. She's never lived a life of mommy, daddy, caregiver, period.

Are Jason or Bethenny or the grams or the nannies or the employees talking up the upheaval to Bryn? Why? Thats not in her best interests.

Drives me crazy.

I should. Tell my friend to avoid the ice buckets. He regularly dines at the restaurant ands had several parties thrown ther in his honor.

Tell him NEVER to ask for ice! LOL. Edited May 28, 2015 by sleekandchic

[ZoloftBlob]

So what is Bryn's hard time about?

 

Her parents are divorced/divorcing. Ask anyone who is divorced with kids or in the process of divorcing if their kids are al yippy skippy happy about it. My sister is divorcing right now and as much as I think she's making things worse, I think she's being honest when she says niece is having a hard time only seeing her parents together when custody is exchanged.

 

Just simply because she's gone from living with both parents to being exchanged I can see what *Bryn's hard time is about*. Is it really a mystery?

[zoeysmom]

Peepee on camera at the Four Seasons! Was it in an ice bucket or a floral planter? I remember Julie, but who is the guy in the photo? Restaurant or a Betheny employee? Poor guy!

Ive been to the Four Seasons a couple of times after seeing that episode, and I ALWAYS think of Bethenny peeing! Its like a tattoo on my peabrain! ;)

Seriously, why allow that to be filmed, then shown? Exhibitionism.

Oh really?! Gotta check IMDB. She has definitely lived a colorful life, ja? :)

She peed on a stick to determine whether or not she was pregnant on camera and then shocked and appalled when Paris Hilton got wind of her being pregnant  before they told Jason's parents.  Who would ever guess production might be the source of the leaks.

[sleekandchic]

I don't know, gimi. I don't think B should discuss Bryn (other than mentioning Bs pride and love, generically) OR the ex at all.

Even the most ardent of B fans would have to admit that any type of criticism of others NOT on this show is unfair and bad form. Mega uneven playing fields.

Now, re Heather's mentioning of the custody setup, or anybody else who brings it up? Bethenny is smart, clever and NEVER shy. Shut it down!

"Thanks, Heather! You're sweet (or nice, or decent, or kind) to care. But I can't discuss any of this, of course!"

Edited May 29, 2015 by sleekandchic

[sleekandchic]

Her parents are divorced/divorcing. Ask anyone who is divorced with kids or in the process of divorcing if their kids are al yippy skippy happy about it. My sister is divorcing right now and as much as I think she's making things worse, I think she's being honest when she says niece is having a hard time only seeing her parents together when custody is exchanged.

Just simply because she's gone from living with both parents to being exchanged I can see what *Bryn's hard time is about*. Is it really a mystery?

Yes, of course, ZoloftBlob, your points are well-taken!

As I mentioned, however, I dont think Bryn 's family-life- experience has been "average" or pedestrian,so far. At her age, imo, the parents could practice a form of creative control and explanation over the day to day. My specialty is families at risk, and with a little bit of thinking outside the box, sometimes (but definitely not always) the most frightening, tumultuous aspects of divorce can be explained or, at least, made less frightening for the children.

I am sincerely sorry to read of your sister's family. xo

Edited May 29, 2015 by sleekandchic

[ZoloftBlob]

I just don't like the implication that there's something sinister about a five year old child having a hard time about her parents divorcing.

[sleekandchic]

I just don't like the implication that there's something sinister about a five year old child having a hard time about her parents divorcing.

I am not implying or openly stating anything sinister at all! Its my natural curiosity and concern. Granted, that curiosity is coming from a nobody, peripheral tv watcher. But nothing sinister is implied by me!

Whenever I see pap shots of Bryn with her mom or Bryn with her dad, the adults look protective and loving. Its lovely, I love it.

[Otherkate]

I just don't like the implication that there's something sinister about a five year old child having a hard time about her parents divorcing.

 

Yeah. One of my kids is Bryn's age and my ex and I have an EXTREMELY amicable relationship. I would still describe both of my kids as having a tough time. They would prefer that it is not happening, period. It seems fairly typical to me. Typical as it may be it still feels awful and it sucks to feel responsible for any unhappiness you may see your kid experiencing. I'm sure Bethenny and Jason both feel like shit about it.

[missy jo]

IMO, some really believe that Jason marked, then plotted, the pressured Bethenny into marriage, I suspect that some think he got her pregnant on purpose, and that he married her with the intent of divorcing her for a big fat payday settlement! Oh, and some believe that the only reason Jason wanted joint custody of Bryn was so that he would receive child support from Bethenny for the next 14 or so years. Talk about cold. JMO

 

 

Right? And IMO, Bethenny "trapped" Jason because she was, by her own admission, desperate for a baby and the clock was ticking. She needed to lock that down, and he was the unlucky guy at the club that night who didn't use a condom.

[Otherkate]

I'm sorry, I can't imagine holding those feelings of guilt. As a kid who grew up in a dysfunctional household, I hope you take comfort in knowing that you made the right decision in the long run.

 

Thank you, I really do appreciate that!

[ZoloftBlob]

She needed to lock that down, and he was the unlucky guy at the club that night who didn't use a condom

 

No, if you genuinely believe that - that Bethenny was trolling for anyone to be the sperm donor, then Jason as a grown ass man controlled the fact that he didn't wrap his baby maker. It takes two people to make a baby. Jason could have insisted on birth control. If he didn't trust Bethenny then he should have used a condom every time or abstained. He wasn't *unlucky* if he had unprotected sex, just dumb.

[ryebread]

Donning my rose colored glasses to say that I believe they thought they were deeply in love.

 

Unfortunately, they jumped in too fast and weren't able to do the heavy work it was going to take to save them.  Marriage shouldn't be that much work.  If it is, I think you've married the wrong person.  Which is obvious they did.  But in the beginning?  I think they thought it was true and lasting.  So many strikes against them from the get go.

[ZoloftBlob]

Donning my rose colored glasses to say that I believe they thought they were deeply in love.

 

Donning my rose colored glasses, I thought Bethenny was riding a wave of success and ignored a lot of red flags in order to "achieve the dream" and thought she was in love with Jason. I think Jason was in a similar place - hitting middle age, and suddenly there's a smart, reasonably attractive, quite financially successful woman into him. I think they thought they were in love. I've never really subscribed to the notion that either party entered this for purely mercenary reasons.

[ryebread]

I've never really subscribed to the notion that either party entered this for purely mercenary reasons.

I agree.  As much as I dislike Bethenny, I'm a lover of love. Barfworthy, but true.  I was pulling for them.  Imo, they aren't good enough actors to pull off some of the chemistry I saw during the spin offs. 

 

It's a shame they couldn't make it work because they had most of the ingrediences to have a really nice life together. But there was too much past damage and not enough desire to work hard and leave their egos at the door.

[Rhetorica]

"We got married in a fever, hotter than a pepper sprout,

We've been talkin' 'bout Jackson, ever since the fire went out.

I'm goin' to Jackson, I'm gonna mess around,

Yeah, I'm goin' to Jackson,

Look out Jackson town."

This should be their theme song. For you young whipersnappers, this is an old Johnny Cash & June Carter song.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6soXB388Mpo

[ryebread]

"We got married in a fever, hotter than a pepper sprout,

 

I love June and Johnny but you can't mention Bethenny and hot pepper sprouts without calling to mind when Beth ate the ghost pepper on their honeymoon. LOL

 

[Rhetorica]

I love June and Johnny but you can't mention Bethenny and hot pepper sprouts without calling to mind when Beth ate the ghost pepper on their honeymoon. LOL

Wow! Your memory is much better than mine, but you did jog it.

[missy jo]

if you genuinely believe that - that Bethenny was trolling for anyone to be the sperm donor, then Jason as a grown ass man controlled the fact that he didn't wrap his baby maker.

 

 

Yes, I believe that, and I said "he didn't wear a condom." It's his fault, too.

[ZoloftBlob]

You were calling him unlucky. There was no luck involved. He didn't knock Bethenny up on accident. He chose to have unprotected sex. Condoms aren't that expensive.

[missy jo]

I think we agree. I meant he was the unlucky guy to end up with Bethenny!

[zoeysmom]

Wasn't there some banal chatter about Bethenny and Jason soon after falling in love deciding not to use birth control because they wouldn't mind a seed?  Bethenny thinking she would have a hard time getting pregnant signed on or originated the idea?  I never got the impression Bryn was unplanned and then there was the second pregnancy.   

[ZoloftBlob]

Yes there was, that they weren't *trying* to get pregnant but that neither would be unhappy if it happened. I think Bryn was unplanned in the sense that they weren't checking an ovulation calendar but I never had the impression Bethenny tricked Jason or entrapped Jason. They were two middle aged people taking no precautions because a baby wasn't a financial disaster to either and both wanted kids.

[hottesthw]

Why were they ever together? The guy already had three kids and was in no rush to settle down with anyone again. He gave Bethenny a drawer at his place, that was his idea of living together, lol. They wanted totally different things out of life. And he was so quiet. I always felt like he was trying to gently shush her down without actually saying it. Like he was in this soft pain. Why do people like that even get together? And why on earth did he agree to be part of the show? Did people just not realize what a clusterfuck it was back then?

According to Bethenny on the show they had been dating for 6 months. She had barely met his kids. Could be Jason was a normal person who after obviously a failed relationship once before was taking things a bit slower than her. She acted like they had been together for years and he was stringing her along. Six months for a man with kids really isn't all that disturbing to most people.

And if he thought he loved her why would he not help her try to succeed with her fist season on the show. He obviously cared enough to break the rules of his employment by doing so but just stayed quiet. Big deal. Just because he loved a famewhore doesn't mean he was one.

Edited May 30, 2015 by hottesthw

[Celia Rubenstein]

I don't think anyone could describe Jason 1.0 as a famewhore (unlike Jason 2.0).   He seemed almost reluctant to be filmed, and he certainly refused to get into anything too personal on camera, which was smart (and also unlike Jason 2.0).  I think he only did the show to make Bethenny happy.   I would guess he never saw an episode of the RHoOC, though.  He probably had no idea what a mess these shows are and how it is hard to be a part of them without being somewhat tainted, even if only by association.  It's a shame it contributed to him losing his job.  He is probably one of most sane, normal people to ever be on reality tv.   

 

It was nice of him to be in a few scenes for Bethenny, but I can't imagine Jason 1.0 wanting his wedding filmed for the show or making his marital life an open book for a whole spin-off series, the way Jason 2.0 was happy to do.  That was some serious Slade-level fame whoriness, right there.   Bethenny has since said it would be a red flag for her if man wants to appear on TV with her.  I guess she learned that lesson the hard way, lol. Better late than never, I suppose.  

[Petunia13]

When was Bethanny hot? Are there pictures?