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luna1122again

luna1122again

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Logan Marshall-Green is a cutie. 

I'll just add to this post, now that I've watched: he is REALLY REALLY cute. I don't think he's a new love interest for Carrie, judging from the preview, but he's definitely a welcome addition. 

I think this was a MUCH better episode than the 1st one. It even actually felt like SATC, at least a little, and Carrie felt like Carrie, at least sometimes. And the clothes were SO much better. That teal dress on Carrie was fabulous. That was Carrie Bradshaw. And the rest were all mostly good too, tho wearing those fancy pink shoes with a nightgown to sit in your rat infested garden was silly. But it was very Carrie. 

Miranda getting obsessed with bad TV was also kind of on brand, and it got very meta when she talked about hate-watching a show. 

Charlotte's storyline is over the top silly and uninteresting to me, but Tim Bagley--so good in the far superior Somebody Somewhere--was very funny, as was Kristen Schaal. And I still am not invested in LTW, but she always looks amazing, and no goofy Pier 1 necklaces tonight. 

I also still don't really care about Seema, but Cheri Oteri was hilarious,  and I hope she comes back. 

I don't know what they trying to do with Aidan and Carrie, but they were much better this episode,  and they seem to be attempting to fix the stupid 5 year thing. I do think they should just admit they tried but call it a day on the relationship, and maybe they will, but I didn’t hate them tonight, and dang it, I still have a crush on JC. 

And I'm maybe alone, I think, but I love Lissete and I loved the necklace she made Carrie. 

Anyway. A step up from last week, anyway 

Oh and Shoe! Shoe remains perfect in every way. 

 

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txhorns79

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On 6/4/2025 at 5:04 PM, luna1122again said:

That teal dress on Carrie was fabulous.

I liked that look.  It was simple, but really worked for her.  

The rats were horrifying.  It was like every homeowner and renter's nightmare scenario come to life.  

On 6/4/2025 at 5:04 PM, luna1122again said:

Miranda getting obsessed with bad TV was also kind of on brand, and it got very meta when she talked about hate-watching a show. 

It reminded me of her love for Jules and Mimi, even though this was about hate watching.  

And yes, Seema really did look wrong in pastels.  I do hope Cheri Oteri comes back.

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CarpeFelis

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Every scene with Charlotte was cringeworthy. All she seems to do now is open her eyes way too wide and act annoyingly overwrought.

Stop going outside, Shoe! I’d be in a panic if one of my cats got outside.

I just knew as soon as Seema’s date said he was heading to the bathroom that he wasn’t coming back. But pretending to be super agreeable and dressing like a Stepford wife ain’t worth it anyway. Couldn’t help noting that both advice givers were telling their clients to basically change everything about who they were to get what they wanted. I’d give them the same hell no that Seema and Charlotte did.

The complete desecration of Carrie’s garden was so disappointing.

 

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txhorns79

txhorns79

3 hours ago, TakomaSnark said:

I'm sorry but I don't understand the issue with Aidan and his kids. He's using them as a relationship shield. Even MPK admitted they wrote themselves into a corner with the 'five years' thing.

The only thing I can remember is that his youngest kid was acting out, went to Aidan's farm, found he wasn't there, got drunk, crashed Aidan's car and seriously injured himself.  Aidan felt guilty because the kid needed him and he was not there, so Aidan decided to engage an extreme solution, i.e. putting the relationship with Carrie on hold until the kid was ready for college.  It was the kind of thing you say in the middle of a crisis that you realize was foolish and impractical once the crisis is over.  

 

6 hours ago, CarpeFelis said:

I just knew as soon as Seema’s date said he was heading to the bathroom that he wasn’t coming back. But pretending to be super agreeable and dressing like a Stepford wife ain’t worth it anyway.

The whole thing annoyed me.  She seemed to know Seema, or at least her type, fairly well.  It was obnoxious that this supposedly amazing matchmaker's idea was for Seema to essentially become a totally different person.  

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luna1122again

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4 hours ago, TakomaSnark said:

I'm sorry but I don't understand the issue with Aidan and his kids. He's using them as a relationship shield. Even MPK admitted they wrote themselves into a corner with the 'five years' thing.

No one understands cuz it's stupid. I can't believe it ever became an actual plot point. No one in the world would agree to go No contact with the person they love but still consider themselves in a relationship. It’s absurd. And MPK should feel like an idiot.

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T Summer

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Even though SATC Charlotte was an old TV friend, I freaking hate this Charlotte! Even the headmaster at the kids' school asked what's with the Charlotte eyes? and thought from the way she was conducting herself a terror attack was happening.

IDK whose    idea it is to have a woman near 60 responsible for children acting this crazy, MPK  and his team of writers? Or  less likely... these are acting choices Kristin Davis herself has worked  into her portrayal of Charlotte?     

....but it has gotten beyond cringe worthy   I really wish she'd  moved to another continent      instead of  Samantha.       

 

Speaking of which, Seema could never...    🙄

                                                                                                                              Even with those complaints I agree this episode was   better than the first one. Shoe continues to be brilliant at acting adorable and fuzzy. It was nice to see Lisette, and a possible suitable match for Miranda, even if it is  through work. 

...and I'd rather see Carrie get with the gardener (or anyone) than keep going down this well worn path with Aiden... made  even more  ridiculous with the wait 5 years for me stipulation.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     .

 

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luna1122again

luna1122again

15 minutes ago, T Summer said:

Even though SATC Charlotte was an old TV friend, I freaking hate this Charlotte! Even the headmaster at the kids' school asked what's with the Charlotte eyes? and thought from the way she was conducting herself a terror attack was happening.

IDK whose    idea it is to have a woman near 60 responsible for children acting this crazy, MPK  and his team of writers? Or  less likely... these are acting choices Kristin Davis herself has worked  into her portrayal of Charlotte?     

 🙄                                                                                                                     .

 

Not really a spoiler cuz I know no details but I read something about Charlotte getting a more dramatic story arc later in the season so maybe that will tone the bizarre overacting down. I don't know what's happened here. KD used to be reliably funny in a much more subtle way, and she could handle poignancy too. Now everything is poorly done slapstick. 

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Pi237

Pi237

7 hours ago, CarpeFelis said:

 

The complete desecration of Carrie’s garden was so disappointing.

 

That made no sense. She goes from a full, lush garden to plot of arid dry dusty dirt!? Stupid.  
 

But I’ll overlook it for Logan.  Hopefully, he won’t try to overdo the quirky tics and line deliveries like he often does in his movies. He’s a hottie. No need to go overboard, Logie. 
 

Charlotte annoys me every time she’s onscreen. She’s like a cartoon character. She was originally a confident, savvy woman with some conservative traits. Now, she’s perpetually exasperated and shocked at every little thing. No human is ON like that 24/7 unless she’s a drunk. 

Seema was funny on her dates.  But Since when does this show tell women to change everything about themselves to get a man? Is this going to end up a “I choose me” Samantha style throwback? 

If they end Carrie and Aiden with some coming together because the cat got sick from rat poison, I’ll lose it. 
 

 

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Mindthinkr

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11 hours ago, JeanJean said:

But I'm worried about Shoe and the rat poison.

Same. I hope Shoe doesn’t take up hunting and try eating a poisoned rat. 
 

BTW, how can Carrie actually believe the exterminator when he was guaranteeing no more rats? She is in NYC. You can thwart them, but if you have a Brownstone like that it’s almost impossible to keep them at bay forever. 
 

I loved seeing Dolly Wells who played Joy. I remember her from Doll & Em. 
I wonder where that’s going. 

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T Summer

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Who else plays can I mute her in time when you sense one of Carrie's ear-splitting screams coming? See, from the preview I was ready for the one when she was sitting outside and the swarm of rats was about to run through... but what was with the next two screams? 😱 😱when poor innocent Shoe 🐈 grazed Carrie's  ankle with her furrz and then when Aiden 🙎‍♂️let his own damn self in.

How am I supposed to sense that coming? 👀

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tennisgurl

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I actually thought that was a pretty good episode, some of it was silly but it felt more classic SATC, and no one really made me want to throw my purse at the screen, which is a pretty big step up from the last season. Shoe continues to be the cutest fluff and I would also panic if she got out of the house. My cats are always trying to run out of the house and its always so stressful, although the very rare times they manage to get outside, they are reminded that they hate the outside and flop on the ground pitifully meowing. 

As a long time Bachelor watcher I totally understand Miranda getting pulled into an awful reality dating show, it really is hard to stop once you've been sucked in. Miranda's dating life continues to be utterly cringe and I am still loving watching it, because I am truly a petty hate watcher. 

Miranda's story was really hampered by Kristen's hammy acting, but it got some laughs out of me, like the headmaster pulling out a bullet proof vest when he heard that something bad was happening, and the kids totally losing it after their meeting with the advisor. "She said I shouldn't mention that I'm Asian or adopted!" 

This arrangement between Carrie and Aiden continues to be weird, I get that Aiden wants to be there for his kid who is going through stuff, but it feels like he should either continue dating Carrie but slow things down or break up with her for real. This dating no mans land seems to be a recipe for disaster. 

Seema wearing pastels does feel weird, a relationship cant exactly work long term if your totally changing every aspect of yourself. 

I quite liked Carrie's outfits in this one, the white dress with white heels was really nice. I am so sad to see her beautiful garden destroyed (stupid rats) but at least her new landscaper is cool and very hot. Even if that obviously cant happen with Carrie being in a situationship with Aiden, but he's nice to look at. Just don't think about going there Carrie, especially after everything...

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RedHawk

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I couldn't help but wonder "Is Seema just a bitch?" 

I have always liked Seema (and Sarita Choudhury is awesome) and I get that the dating montage was played for laughs. But damn, she has to stop with the "Nope" behavior 5 minutes (or less!) into every date. (Men who do this to women are rightfully despised.) Give a guy a chance, and don't have your first date/first meetup in a bar!

Shoe is cute and all but I don't need to see Carrie chasing her and cuddling her every episode. Carrie's a cat mom now. Lazy writing. Yawn. 

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RedHawk

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They should have gone all the way and made Aidan's son special needs in some way that really requires Aidan to be with him most of the time. ETA: for example, the son could have been badly injured in his car crash and need a year or so of rehab. "Five years" would still be dumb though.

Looks like Carrie is going to get interested in some other guy and that will cause a rift between the couple that apparently were always "meant to be". 

Carrie's garden guru looks like the guy I've got a crush on at my tire place! I'd toss Absent Aidan aside for him any time. 

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MamaMax

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On 6/6/2025 at 10:57 AM, luna1122again said:

Not really a spoiler cuz I know no details but I read something about Charlotte getting a more dramatic story arc later in the season so maybe that will tone the bizarre overacting down. I don't know what's happened here. KD used to be reliably funny in a much more subtle way, and she could handle poignancy too. Now everything is poorly done slapstick. 

Call me a hater, but I think KD has botoxed herself to the point that she cant do subtle anymore.  She was so good with her face before: the top example being her "NO!" to Big when he left Carrie at the altar. It makes me tear up every time. Now all she can do is open her eyes real wide. 

On 6/6/2025 at 4:54 PM, RedHawk said:

I couldn't help but wonder "Is Seema just a bitch?" 

I have always liked Seema (and Sarita Choudhury is awesome) and I get that the dating montage was played for laughs. But damn, she has to stop with the "Nope" behavior 5 minutes (or less!) into every date. (Men who do this to women are rightfully despised.) Give a guy a chance, and don't have your first date/first meetup in a bar!
 

LOL, yup. I thought her NOPEing out on that guy was funny-- but it points toward a more serious question. Does a woman of a certain age have to hide parts of herself to avoid loneliness?  I mean, Seema IS kind of a bitch. The right guy wouldn't care, but the older you get, the harder it is to find single men, IMO.  Its a cliche, but the best ones are taken already and (don't hate me) she isn't old enough yet to get to the widowers.  She seems like she would NOT be cool with a guy who has kids which would probably nix most divorced men, and the never-marrieds her age, well.... they are usually not married bc they never wanted to be. 

 

And my last observation from this episode is that SJP is keepin it smoking hot,  Matthew Broderick is a lucky man. Wowza she looked great in her more sane outfits. I loved the teal dress and the nude-colored top/denim skirt ensemble. 

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heatherchandler

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On 6/6/2025 at 8:45 AM, txhorns79 said:

The whole thing annoyed me.  She seemed to know Seema, or at least her type, fairly well.  It was obnoxious that this supposedly amazing matchmaker's idea was for Seema to essentially become a totally different person.  

So what is the point of this story?  That Seema shouldn’t change herself for a man?  That she doesn’t want a man?  That she’s just a bitch and the right man will accept that?  Wtf???

On 6/6/2025 at 10:39 AM, Mindthinkr said:

Same. I hope Shoe doesn’t take up hunting and try eating a poisoned rat. 

I’m livid- these writers are so f-ing horrible.  You don’t poison rats!  Not just Shoe would be in danger, but other pets in the area, and all predator animals- so many owls and other birds of prey die horrible deaths from the poison.  Actually it’s an awful death for the rats too.  You don’t put down the glue traps either, it’s absolutely grotesque what happens to them with that.  
 

You can either have them trapped and released into the wild (no one wants to do that) or, best thing is the kind that kill instantly- snap and they are dead.  
 

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txhorns79

txhorns79

2 hours ago, MamaMax said:

LOL, yup. I thought her NOPEing out on that guy was funny-- but it points toward a more serious question. Does a woman of a certain age have to hide parts of herself to avoid loneliness?  I mean, Seema IS kind of a bitch. The right guy wouldn't care, but the older you get, the harder it is to find single men, IMO.  Its a cliche, but the best ones are taken already and (don't hate me) she isn't old enough yet to get to the widowers.  She seems like she would NOT be cool with a guy who has kids which would probably nix most divorced men, and the never-marrieds her age, well.... they are usually not married bc they never wanted to be. 

I think Seema would be fine with a guy who had kids that were college age and older.  She would be happy to be "dad's wife," but wouldn't want to be in a parental role.  I don't know that I see her as "kind of a bitch."  I think she just knows what she wants after decades of dating and has no interest in wasting time.        

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marybennet

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I'm sympathetic to the idea of Seema wanting what she wants and not when she doesn't, but I can't help remembering when a guy did that to Sanford in an SATC episode; the show once knew that it hurt to be on the receiving end of an immediate dismissal.  I wish it still knew that.  (Or, come to think of it, I wish it was still the show that knew that--SATC and not AJLT.)

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RedHawk

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21 hours ago, txhorns79 said:

I think Seema would be fine with a guy who had kids that were college age and older.  She would be happy to be "dad's wife," but wouldn't want to be in a parental role.  I don't know that I see her as "kind of a bitch."  I think she just knows what she wants after decades of dating and has no interest in wasting time.        

It's fine to know what you want and not want to waste time. That's me basically. But I'd never be so dismissive to a date; it's just rude and harsh. Most of us aren't attracted to people who act bitter and superior. 

17 hours ago, marybennet said:

I'm sympathetic to the idea of Seema wanting what she wants and not when she doesn't, but I can't help remembering when a guy did that to Sanford in an SATC episode; the show once knew that it hurt to be on the receiving end of an immediate dismissal.  I wish it still knew that.  (Or, come to think of it, I wish it was still the show that knew that--SATC and not AJLT.)

Exactly. So what's the point (other than an easy laugh) of showing Seema rejecting these guys, then trying the matchmaker's (bad, IMO) advice, then returning right back to the same place she was, having learned . . . nothing?

Her way is not working. Does she want it to work, does she get a laugh out of the power trip, is she secretly scared of rejection so rejects first, or does she truly prefer her solo life? I hope this plot isn't dropped and we get a clue in the next episode.

ItCouldBeWorse

ItCouldBeWorse

On 6/4/2025 at 5:04 PM, luna1122again said:

And the rest were all mostly good too, tho wearing those fancy pink shoes with a nightgown to sit in your rat infested garden was silly.

Don't forget the string of fake pearls.

On 6/4/2025 at 5:04 PM, luna1122again said:

Charlotte's storyline is over the top silly and uninteresting to me, but Tim Bagley--so good in the far superior Somebody Somewhere--was very funny, as was Kristen Schaal.

Agreed.

On 6/6/2025 at 5:26 PM, RedHawk said:

Looks like Carrie is going to get interested in some other guy and that will cause a rift between the couple that apparently were always "meant to be". 

Unless they subvert our expectations, but I doubt it.

Yeah No

Yeah No

8 hours ago, RedHawk said:

It's fine to know what you want and not want to waste time. That's me basically. But I'd never be so dismissive to a date; it's just rude and harsh. Most of us aren't attracted to people who act bitter and superior. 

Exactly. So what's the point (other than an easy laugh) of showing Seema rejecting these guys, then trying the matchmaker's (bad, IMO) advice, then returning right back to the same place she was, having learned . . . nothing?

Her way is not working. Does she want it to work, does she get a laugh out of the power trip, is she secretly scared of rejection so rejects first, or does she truly prefer her solo life? I hope this plot isn't dropped and we get a clue in the next episode.

I think it's just showing how after a certain age a single woman has been there, done that, met every type of guy available out there several times already and is just not clicking with any of them. Some of it is because a lot of guys can't handle a strong, opinionated personality like Seema, which was the point of showing how the only solution a matchmaker could come up for her would be changing herself to be less strong and opinionated. And we know that's not going to work for her nor should she change herself just to please a man. The point was to illustrate the dilemma that many modern, and especially older women have. 

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chediavolo

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On 6/6/2025 at 3:11 AM, CarpeFelis said:

Every scene with Charlotte was cringeworthy. All she seems to do now is open her eyes way too wide and act annoyingly overwrought.

Stop going outside, Shoe! I’d be in a panic if one of my cats got outside.

I just knew as soon as Seema’s date said he was heading to the bathroom that he wasn’t coming back. But pretending to be super agreeable and dressing like a Stepford wife ain’t worth it anyway. Couldn’t help noting that both advice givers were telling their clients to basically change everything about who they were to get what they wanted. I’d give them the same hell no that Seema and Charlotte did.

The complete desecration of Carrie’s garden was so disappointing.

 

WTF was that? You’ll have to destroy an entire backyard beautiful garden to get rid of rats? Isn’t that what the rat exterminator is for? And hopefully they would not use Poison but traps. We need to stop poisoning nuisance animals because it is killing our pets and wildlife.

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Urban Shoe Myth

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Perhaps this show frustrates me so much because I occasionally see glimpses of what it could be - and yet it keeps falling short of the mark.

Everything is so slapsticky now - Charlotte causing the principal to freak out, Lily and Herbert Jr dramatically hyperventilating and draped across furniture, respectively, following their meeting with Lois, Lisa shrieking her way across a running track and lacrosse field. Hard for me to explain, but I feel like the ladies on Sex and the City had dignity, even if they were sometimes thrown into undignified situations.

Random thoughts:

  • Carrie sounds like a teenager analyzing her boyfriend's texts. 
  • Why, in that glorious big house, is Carrie's kitchen so small? Aidan looked like a giant at that teeny table
  • Fingerhood. Cherkov.  Is the audience collectively meant to be 12?
  • Seema feels like she's on a different show (with some Carrie crossover)
  • Lisa Todd Wexler feels like she's on a different show (with some Charlotte crossover) 
  • Miranda feels like she's on a different show (with some Carrie crossover)
  • Anthony feels like he's on a different show (with some Charlotte crossover)

The four women of SATC often had their own storylines, but always seemed to connect at one point per episode, usually over brunch. This "group" hardly ever interacts as a whole. 

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