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S08.E14: Sick Day


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11 minutes ago, iMonrey said:

Does anyone really believe this show is going to kill off Bobby, Hen or Chimney? Ravi, maybe. But the drama is so high yet the stakes are so low. This show doesn't have the guts to do something that's going to be a real game-changer. So hard as they try, the tension feels weak. 

I don't want it to have the "guts". I find the killing of major characters just to try to be "gritty" or for the shock value cheap and lacking in imagination, and it makes me not want to watch. I watch this for fun. I don't want to worry that characters I love are going to die willy-nilly. It's usually a jump the shark moment for me. I think there's lots of drama and tension as it is. I sincerely hope they don't kill anyone.

I enjoyed this episode. The bus crash was a good and interesting call, with Ravi encountering a realistic personal hurdle that's actually related to the job.

The lab fire is interesting so far.

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9 hours ago, iMonrey said:

Does anyone really believe this show is going to kill off Bobby, Hen or Chimney? Ravi, maybe. But the drama is so high yet the stakes are so low. This show doesn't have the guts to do something that's going to be a real game-changer. So hard as they try, the tension feels weak. 

I just found and read this article re: possible kill plot:  https://bitl.to/4Lf0

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11 hours ago, preeya said:

The redheaded villain (from The Rookie) strikes again. I'm getting tired of her shit and she's once again, on the run.

Didn't even recognize her. I wonder if the casting people just hate redheads in general. 

I had a feeling there were many things wrong with the "science" (well, of containment, really) but I don't know enough to criticize, except that it all seemed unlikely. 

I appreciate that  Army and boss of the place made excellent points, and weren't really bad guys, just realists in the world of virology who were protecting a wider group of people than the guys of the 911.

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11 hours ago, agathapenny said:

I don't want it to have the "guts". I find the killing of major characters just to try to be "gritty" or for the shock value cheap and lacking in imagination, and it makes me not want to watch. I watch this for fun. I don't want to worry that characters I love are going to die willy-nilly. It's usually a jump the shark moment for me.

OK, but then don't put the characters in life or death situations when we know there's zero chance they'll die. I agree I watch the show for fun, although it's been a lot less fun the last few seasons and now it seems to be trying harder to be a serious drama than the wacky, off the rails rescue show it started out as.

Episodes like this just don't work for me because I know everyone is going to survive, so what's the point of this? 

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50 minutes ago, Clanstarling said:

I appreciate that  Army and boss of the place made excellent points, and weren't really bad guys, just realists in the world of virology who were protecting a wider group of people than the guys of the 911.

I also appreciated that they didn't let Athena boss them around.  Instead of letting them do their jobs, she acted like she was in charge.  I won't be surprised if she's the one who catches the red headed villain, because she has to be the one looking like the hero.    

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This show just cant help itself, it just had to start putting the main cast in danger just a few episodes after Maddie got kidnapped and had her throat cut. After last weeks shockingly normal episode, we get back to our usual melodrama, although this was at least a lot better than our last few near death experience episodes. 

The boss at the lab and the army guy might have ended up on different sides than the main characters, but they made a lot of good points and I don't think they were totally supposed to be villains. The boss was totally right about how someone other than Athena, who has huge personal stakes in this, should be running point and the army guy was right that they need to prioritize keeping this virus contained. There are certainly more people than the main cast to worry about, even if we obviously root for our main characters. 

I laughed when the boss was like "I thought people didn't like you because of sexism, but really its because you suck" to the scientist. Bridget Reagan is always great even if she almost always plays bad guys, it would be nice to see her play a nice person for once.  

I'm glad that Ravi got some extra screentime and that he and Buck are still hanging out, he's so underused. 

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8 hours ago, Crashcourse said:

I also appreciated that they didn't let Athena boss them around.  Instead of letting them do their jobs, she acted like she was in charge.  I won't be surprised if she's the one who catches the red headed villain, because she has to be the one looking like the hero.    

No doubt, and she'll probably be the one to jam it into Chim's arm. I like Athena, but they do her no favours with the OTT writing sometimes.

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12 hours ago, Infie said:

I don't watch The Rookie.  I love Bridget Regan!  She was great in Agent Carter, White Collar, and a bunch of things that I really like.  I hope her villain turns don't get her typecast. 

Thanks for the name I knew I saw her on other shows but imdb 911 didn't have her name listed. It was driving me crazy. I saw her in Person of Interest, White Collar and the Last Ship. 

8 hours ago, gonzosgirrl said:

I was 100% sure Ravi was quitting to usher Eddie back into the story. Now I'm not convinced he won't either die, or be arrested and/or fired for opening the freezer. I feel like he's got a red shirt on under that turnout gear.

I got that feeling right after he missed the baby and still have it. Yeah he's either going to quit or be killed so Eddie can come back. Too bad while I like Eddie. I like Ravi too. It feels like their going to kill someone off without killing off a major character. Not that I want a major character either. Buck would drop him as a friend as soon as Eddie comes back anyways.

It was nice to see other emergencies again. I think this was the first time I was happy to see the rat was okay. Of course the CEO is hiding what they were doing and lying to the cops. Of course it wasn't enough that he fired the scientist because she broke protcols but because everyone hated her too. What a jackass. I liked the army disease unit coming into help.  

Jee's still adorable. I wonder how disappointed she's going to when her little sister turns out to be a little brother. 

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5 hours ago, Irlandesa said:

I don't know why Ravi would have to be gone for Eddie to come back.  Ravi has been around since Season 4. He's just on a different shift most of the time but we've seen him with this crew as well even when Eddie's around. 

Plot device. Something dramatic enough to get Eddie back to LA, and then justufying staying because his team needs him now, and he knows it's where he belongs. Restarting his life with Chris, away from his parents, and, my bet, living with Buck. There has to be a reason it was Buck who sublet his place. 

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Bobby performing the procedure on Hen was ridiculous and for no reason at all. Are we supposed to believe that the bloodborne virus is oozing out of his pores and would eat its way through the gloves he'd be wearing? And how did he get it? It's not like it was squirted onto him. The only way it would be remotely likely would be if Moira put the virus in a spray bottle, hosed down the entire lab and then Chim rubbed an open wound against a sprayed surface. Which means Hen would be just as likely to "get the virus" the same way once someone cut her.

Also, there's no way that boss managed to get Moira locked out of everything that fast, yet didn't have Security walk her out immediately and then destroy the virus.

AND you don't get a pandemic out of a blood-borne virus that kills the host in an hour and a half. That's not enough time to transmit ANYTHING past 1-2 others (and that's only if they're stupid enough to get within spitting range with their mucous membranes while the host is coughing up blood).

This has to be the stupidest plot yet.

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I thought the virus was airborne and Moira had engineered it to have a 90 minute incubation period, and Chimney only had a leaky mask. There were contrivances, but I think it was clearly not a bloodborne virus because if it was, they would not be worried about the kind of contagion to the population, and people would not be wearing hazmat suits inside the lab and acting so extremely worried about security to the extent they were even before the explosion.

 

I think gender reveals are stupid. Maybe the kid will be trans and Jee will get a sister after all. Or maybe she'll be just as happy to have a brother. I don't think if the cake had been blue that she would have been pouting in disappointment-- not if they have decided she's adorable, and not with Hen's son also at the party.

I always think it's surprising that people think Athena is being given too much heroism. Most shows cheer when their characters save the day. So having Athena catch Moira is not eye-roll-worthy for me. It's the same thing everybody likes in a movie like Diehard, for instance. I hope people who don't like Angela Bassett getting this character are not just hating it because she's female and Black.

 

I suspect everybody who thinks Eddie will come back is right. He only went to be close to Christopher, and now that he and Chris are back in the father-son relationship they always had, and Eddie's parents are making both of them unhappy, they don't even need a reason. Just sell Eddie's new house and come home. I hope they don't kill Ravi. This show has consistently had its ensemble members survive the utterly unsurvivable, and I know it's ridiculous, but I don't want them to change that. It is more like them to have contrived this to engineer Buck and Eddie living together, but I have mixed feelings about that. I'm tired of the baiting of the Buck-Eddie shippers. I think they have made a really big deal about Eddie being straight and Buck not being attracted to him, even though they also have been making it seem like Buck IS attracted to him despite his denials. I think it's a mess and I'm tired of it.

Ever since they had Buck and Tommy break up, I think they've botched the whole Buck coming out storyline and I don't think a Buck-Eddie storyline will fix that.

 

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This is too upsetting. After watching this episode, I am in complete denial. Am not ready for any of them to die, not even Ravi. 😣

Am so tired of seeing Bridget Regan as a (redhead) villain. You’re being typecast, girl.

Chimney had encephalitis in the past. Why can’t the writers get someone else to contract the virus? It’s getting ridiculously repetitive.

Eddie would be so useful for 118 in this situation. He’s an army medic. But no, he has to be in Texas, finishing the shitty arc that the writers put him into. 😏

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20 hours ago, CoyoteBlue said:

Also, there's no way that boss managed to get Moira locked out of everything that fast, yet didn't have Security walk her out immediately and then destroy the virus.

That drove me crazy. There's no way a business that works with material that dangerous just lets somebody go without some intervention by security.

This show has always required some suspension of disbelief but now they want us to dangle it out the window by its feet.

The wardrobe on this show has really tanked.

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2 hours ago, possibilities said:

I hope people who don't like Angela Bassett getting this character are not just hating it because she's female and Black.

IMO, anybody  prone to that mindset wouldn't be watching this show, certainly not in the eighth season. I say that because I got into an argument with someone on another site who accused me of disliking "Buddie" because of homophobia. All I could think is if "I were a homophobe why would I be  watching this show at all let alone sit through eight seasons of Hen, Karen and their drama?"

2 hours ago, Snazzy Daisy said:

Chimney had encephalitis in the past. Why can’t the writers get someone else to contract the virus? It’s getting ridiculously repetitive.

And before that he had that rebar through the head. Chim's brain should basically be a piece of coral right now.

23 hours ago, Infie said:

I don't watch The Rookie.  I love Bridget Regan!  She was great in Agent Carter, White Collar, and a bunch of things that I really like.  I hope her villain turns don't get her typecast. 

Agent Carter. THAT's where I know her from. 

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4 hours ago, possibilities said:

I always think it's surprising that people think Athena is being given too much heroism. Most shows cheer when their characters save the day. So having Athena catch Moira is not eye-roll-worthy for me. It's the same thing everybody likes in a movie like Diehard, for instance. I hope people who don't like Angela Bassett getting this character are not just hating it because she's female and Black.

I would (and do) feel the same about any character that never fails. It's one thing in a two hour movie, where the main character is supposed to be the sole hero. In a weekly series, it becomes tiresome. I mean, she landed a damaged freaking jumbo jet on a highway. I love Angela Bassett. Athena Grant gets on my nerves - and would regardless of her gender or race.

Speaking of Angela - I saw a clip of an old ER episode on Reels today, with her and Noah Wyle. I'd forgotten she was on thats. Noah looks older than me now, while she looks exactly the same. Dang, woman! I mean...

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3 hours ago, marceline said:

That drove me crazy. There's no way a business that has that works with material that dangerous just lets somebody go without some intervention by security.

This show has always required some suspension of disbelief but now they want us to dangle it out the window by its feet.

The wardrobe on this show has really tanked.

Yes, when you fire someone you IMMEDIATELY have security escort them from the premises, taking all their keys, access cards, etc. from them.  You do not allow them any access so they cannot do any damage on their way out, like deleting computer files or stealing deadly viruses/antidotes.  You have IT take immediate action to prevent the fired employee from accessing computer networks  You also immediately send notice to everyone that the fired employee no longer works there and should not be allowed in, such as when people come up behind someone as they are opening a secure door.  

The other thing I found unbelievable was when the two employees were entering the secure area, only one was using a pass and the other followed him in.  A place like this lab would have strict protocols that everyone would have to follow so that they would know who was in any given area and when and for how long.  

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29 minutes ago, gonzosgirrl said:

I would (and do) feel the same about any character that never fails. It's one thing in a two hour movie, where the main character is supposed to be the sole hero. In a weekly series, it becomes tiresome. I mean, she landed a damaged freaking jumbo jet on a highway. I love Angela Bassett. Athena Grant gets on my nerves - and would regardless of her gender or race.

Thank you! 

32 minutes ago, gonzosgirrl said:

I would (and do) feel the same about any character that never fails. It's one thing in a two hour movie, where the main character is supposed to be the sole hero. In a weekly series, it becomes tiresome. I mean, she landed a damaged freaking jumbo jet on a highway. I love Angela Bassett. Athena Grant gets on my nerves - and would regardless of her gender or race.

I adore Athena (and Bobby) but I COMPLETELY understand why others don't.

One of the things I like about this show and others big ensembles is that we all have our favorites and our...not so favorites and that's not about their race, gender, or any other demographic stuff. It's because we know these characters. That said...

It's long past time for a main character death. That's the reality of being a first responder. Personally, I want it to be Eddie. I want him to go out like James Evans on Good Times. Let Hen read a telegram email that starts with "We regret to inform you...".

I saw this show got renewed for another season. I hope it's the last one. 

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Well, I can't speak to the content of anybody's heart, but there are lots of shows where the main character saves the day, and a lot of them are highly rated. 

Tracker is one. I quit watching it for other reasons, but it's currently one of the highest rated dramas on TV. Equalizer is another-- though that one has two women of color doing most of the saving, so that's a nice change of pace and would seem to support the idea that there's an audience for it, even if not for Athena on 911. 

Do people dislike all the other 911 characters who save the day on the regular? Bobby did it this week with the infant in the exploding car. 

I think every cop and rescue show ever aired has people saving the day most episodes. I'm curious why Athena doing it annoys people, when it's actually what every character is doing and I thought it was why people watch these kinds of shows in the first place. 

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11 hours ago, possibilities said:

There were contrivances, but I think it was clearly not a bloodborne virus because if it was, they would not be worried about the kind of contagion to the population, and people would not be wearing hazmat suits inside the lab and acting so extremely worried about security to the extent they were even before the explosion.

I looked up CCHF (Crimean-Congo Hemorrhagic Fever) just in case - it's blood-borne - but even airborne viruses wouldn't make a difference between Chim doing the procedure and Bobby. They'd both wear gloves out of the kit (same protection) and make a cut (exposing her blood to the air).

In the lab, I'd understand because they might have other viruses around that ARE airborne? Also, I have no idea what the protocol is for say, AIDS research (also bloodborne, no cure) but 'one wrong touch to a mucous membrane and your organs might liquify in 3-5 days' would have me wearing a suit between decontaminations.

I'm also stunned that there was only one vial in the freezer (unless that's just long-term storage?). I have to imagine there are many different strains they've been working on, different trials, etc even if it's just one disease studied in that lab. But I'll give that one up for dramatic contrivance for Ravi's reveal. :)

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25 minutes ago, agathapenny said:

That's just not true, lol. Most first responders do not die on the job. It is not, in any way, unrealistic that none of the team has died so far.

Not a main character, but there has been a story about one of the LAFD being killed in the line of duty.  Chim's friend.  What was his name?  Kevin?  But I agree, TV exaggerates the frequency of line of duty deaths.  According to the United States Fire Administration, there were 62 LODDs in 2024 and most of those were vehicle accidents and cardiac events.    

I'm still wondering how Bobby and the baby survived that explosion and fireball. That was one amazing car seat - both bombproof and fireproof.  

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2 hours ago, Calvada said:

Not a main character, but there has been a story about one of the LAFD being killed in the line of duty.  Chim's friend.  What was his name?  Kevin?  But I agree, TV exaggerates the frequency of line of duty deaths.  According to the United States Fire Administration, there were 62 LODDs in 2024 and most of those were vehicle accidents and cardiac events.    

I'm still wondering how Bobby and the baby survived that explosion and fireball. That was one amazing car seat - both bombproof and fireproof.  

I also agree.  I'm in Canada, but it is extremely rare for any first responder to be killed on duty.  Out of the 24 years my Mr has been a first responder, not one EMS in our region - which services about 2 million residents -  has been killed on duty.  

It is by far more likely that someone would die of suicide. 

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12 hours ago, Clanstarling said:

Just curious, did she play villains on those shows?

Not in Person of Interest. She played Wendy in season 1 of Person of Interest Number Crunch where she and three other people stole money from the guy killed in a car accident but she did so to save her foster mother's house. The killer came after her and her foster sister. 

Or Last Ship, she played Sasha Cooper a former Navy intelligence and later diplomat in China and sometimes love interest of Tom Chandlor, but he was too busy saving the world every season. 

She was a villain in White Collar season four.

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13 hours ago, Calvada said:

I'm still wondering how Bobby and the baby survived that explosion and fireball. That was one amazing car seat - both bombproof and fireproof.  

OMG that was so cheesy. As soon as the car exploded I said "wait for it, wait for it, wait for it . . . " because I KNEW Bobby was going to emerge from the smoke, all heroic like in slow motion carrying the baby as the music swelled.

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23 hours ago, possibilities said:

Well, I can't speak to the content of anybody's heart,

Yet you do seem to be trying to.

23 hours ago, possibilities said:

Tracker is one. I quit watching it for other reasons, but it's currently one of the highest rated dramas on TV. Equalizer is another-- though that one has two women of color doing most of the saving, so that's a nice change of pace and would seem to support the idea that there's an audience for it, even if not for Athena on 911. 

Tracker, Colter Shaw, is the lead character of the show, as is Equalizer, Robin McCall, so no, I don't mind them always saving the day. I stopped watching The Resident because Conrad was practically infallible and saved everyone, no matter how far out of his purview the case. That's the Athena vibe for me.

 

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all this talk about character death, I bring bad news from the future...

I don't think killing off main characters for shock value serves anyone. Grey's Anatomy did of that, now it sucks.

Writers can put characters in danger once in a while, but as a previous poster said don't do it regularly because we know the character(s) will survive.

I love the plot with the disgruntled redhead carrying the antidote of the lab.

I understand the army Colonel trying to keep the virus contained and spare the majority of the population. I also respect the first responder crew for not letting their team members --who went into rescue others --- die.

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