S18.E17: A Match Made in Scandal

[starlightlost]

6 hours ago, Retired at last said:

Does anyone know how many more shows we have? I know that at the last AP, Keisha said they would be back in 3 weeks, so I think they are back next week? She did say it would be after D Day. I am just mostly curious about the 90-day reunion. I wish they would have done a REAL reunion since the show was filmed so long ago. I hope we get true updates. Why? I have no idea!

18. New Love Is in the Air

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Mar 4, 2025

Lifetime · 7 PM CT

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One couple navigates their new shared life together, while our divorcees return to single life; as some wrestle with betrayal and disappointment, others find solace in each other and one finds love where they least expected it

 

So I'm guessing we get to see more of David and Madison (yay 🙄), and I think they show Em getting engaged to someone else.

 

Google says there will be 21 episodes total. As we all know how they love to drag this out as long as they can..

Edited Saturday at 12:41 AM by starlightlost

[Gator Stud]

11 hours ago, atomic said:

I think what men like is just different than women. I personally find Madison to be the least attractive woman on the cast, but this isn't the first time a man on here said Madison is hotter than Michelle. 

Its not even that.  The guys are right.  Scientifically, symmetry has a lot to do with Beauty.  Madison is far more symmetrical than Michelle even though some people feel she looks manly.  I dont agree.  I wont pick on people's looks, but Madison's complexion is better than Michelle's.  Her hair is better too, though the extensions seem a bit much.  The Satanic makeup didnt look great but sent the right message.

[Crashcourse]

I think Michelle is more attractive than Madison, but Michelle needs to work on her skin.  Looks aside, she also needs to work on her personality because she comes off as being constantly suspicious.  As I posted earlier, God forbid the guy comes home late from work or gets stuck in traffic.  She'd grill him and want to see his phone to look for any calls or texts.  

Edited Saturday at 01:45 AM by Crashcourse

[atomic]

1 hour ago, Gator Stud said:

Its not even that.  The guys are right.  Scientifically, symmetry has a lot to do with Beauty.  Madison is far more symmetrical than Michelle even though some people feel she looks manly.  I dont agree.  I wont pick on people's looks, but Madison's complexion is better than Michelle's.  Her hair is better too, though the extensions seem a bit much.  The Satanic makeup didnt look great but sent the right message.

There is no right or wrong when it comes to beauty. So I'm not going to say you're wrong about finding Madison pretty, but I just strongly disagree. Her whole look is achieved through loads of fakeness and she looks closer to 40 than 30 (not shocking with the amount of drinking and partying she does). She's really nothing to write home about when you look at her in a more natural state.

[JayDub1987]

When the season started, I thought Madison was an absolute smokeshow. Her and Camille were the most attractive IMO. But Madison's makeup on that last episode looked like something from some odd clown-prostitute cosplay. 

[Hip-to-be-Square]

I think that Michelle looks pretty.  She has nice hooded-eyes, good brows, nice cheekbones, I like that I can see her skin through her makeup. She has a feminine and pretty face.  Madison's eyebrows are a little too harsh- very dark, angled high on the brow bone and drawn on.  I'm not really a fan of the expressionless Botox foreheads and long fake eyelashes on Madison and Emem. 

Edited Saturday at 06:34 AM by Hip-to-be-Square

[Elizzikra]

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she took off her top in front of everyone.

I don't recall that and I don't know that anyone else does either. As close as we have come to documenting this is noting that Karla tends to wear low cut tops and no bra. 

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I thought Madison was an absolute smokeshow

Serious question - is "smoke show" a good thing?

[Elizzikra]

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I dont judge her for that;.. But Karla likes to show her body to others.  I think that is fine.  But not if she is all high and mighty to Madison and David. 

See that is judging someone - she can't wear low cut tops and/or go topless and be "high and mighty" about cheating being wrong? She can think cheating is wrong if she is covered neck to toes all the time or she can think cheating is just fine and show a little boob sometimes? Nothing in between?

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Why would anybody hand this crazy gaslighter their phone?  Don't demand that I answer questions, and then immediately accuse me of lying.  Michelle is so stupid that she STILL cant figure out when David is lying. David is an astonishing bad liar. Watch his facial expression right before he tells the first lie.  If he played Poker, I would take everything from him- including the bar. Hes lied about other things, but not the things he is being accused of. 

I don't care whether David shows anyone his phone or not (he wouldn't show it to Pastor Cal either). The point is that he acts as though there is no way to prove he is telling the truth except for someone to choose to believe him. That's not the case; he could provide evidence that he was telling the truth if he actually were honest. He was lying (and undoubtedly there was proof of that on his phone).

He was accused of sending a sexual/flirting text. Michelle accused him of that. He lied and said it was to his cousin, about food. 

Michelle is not stupid. She knew David was lying and she was pissed that he wouldn't ever take accountability. She never liked David and she never really gave him a chance but he repeatedly asked her to be honest and she was. He wasn't.

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I loved how she attacked MichelleMichelle asked who he sent the text to. He lied and said it was some woman on Tinder. 

I thought it was tacky and ignorant. Mature and intelligent women don't settle things with fake bravado and vague threats of physical violence.

[Gator Stud]

1 hour ago, Elizzikra said:

I don't care whether David shows anyone his phone or not (he wouldn't show it to Pastor Cal either). The point is that he acts as though there is no way to prove he is telling the truth except for someone to choose to believe him. That's not the case; he could provide evidence that he was telling the truth if he actually were honest. He was lying (and undoubtedly there was proof of that on his phone).

He was accused of sending a sexual/flirting text. Michelle accused him of that. He lied and said it was to his cousin, about food. 

You know what?  Michelle can eat shit.  Nobody is buying her fake bullshit, like she ever cared about him or was attracted to him. She deserved to get embarrassed by David. She should try treating people nicely if she wants to keep a man. But she cant do that even after 7 years of being single?  Why do you think that is?

1 hour ago, Elizzikra said:

See that is judging someone - she can't wear low cut tops and/or go topless and be "high and mighty" about cheating being wrong? She can think cheating is wrong if she is covered neck to toes all the time or she can think cheating is just fine and show a little boob sometimes? Nothing in between?

I dont judge her for her topless kink or for her flashing, but like if she did that stuff on my honeymoon, I would not be married to her.  But if her man agrees with that, then that is ok. Also, there was no proven cheating.  So I dont know why people invent things that are not true.  Maybe next week there will be proof, but so far I have not seen any.  Karla is not high and mighty.  She is envious.

[starlightlost]

11 hours ago, Elizzikra said:

Serious question - is "smoke show" a good thing?

My 16 year old daughter says yes lol

[Elizzikra]

9 hours ago, Gator Stud said:

So I dont know why people invent things that are not true. 

I don’t know either. If only someone who invented things that are not true was here to enlighten us.

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Also, there was no proven cheating. 

If by “cheating” you mean sex, no we have no proof of that. If by cheating you mean “flirting,” “sexting” and “catching feelings” then there’s plenty of proof, including their own admissions.

[Jeanne222]

On 2/27/2025 at 7:08 PM, DrewPaul2010 said:

He's not innocent as he should have intervened and called her out for allegedly hanging out with her friends. He should have seen the writing on the wall and confronted it. But I didn't observe him drooling over Madison I observed a man who accepted that she is his wife and they are supposed to work on being a happily married couple. I think had he been matched with Michelle who isn't quite as attractive he would have approached it same way. They didn't even as much as kiss after the wedding.

Had he been matched with Michelle...another shit show  about something she didn't like.  His teeth, his clothes. It would have been something!  Count on it.

[Retired at last]

14 hours ago, JayDub1987 said:

But Madison's makeup on that last episode looked like something from some odd clown-prostitute cosplay. 

Apparently, this was filmed around Halloween a long time ago and she went directly from the filming to a party. Is anyone surprised? I think that may be why Pia was wearing that hideous purple lipstick? 

[Elizzikra]

1 hour ago, Retired at last said:

Apparently, this was filmed around Halloween a long time ago and she went directly from the filming to a party. Is anyone surprised? I think that may be why Pia was wearing that hideous purple lipstick? 

I still don’t get what she was supposed to be though? It’s not such a great costume if no one can figure it out.

[atomic]

Probably the devil like I speculated earlier. She probably had the horns in the car that she threw on later. Or...she's just trying to save face since everyone is roasting her now, when at the time she really thought she was looking smoking hot for Allen to eat his heart out lol.

[Elizzikra]

1 hour ago, atomic said:

Probably the devil like I speculated earlier. She probably had the horns in the car that she threw on later. Or...she's just trying to save face since everyone is roasting her now, when at the time she really thought she was looking smoking hot for Allen to eat his heart out lol.

Maybe but no horns? No pitchfork? Just a red dress and clashing pink eye shadow??? Maybe she left the accessories in the care for the loft “party?”

[JayDub1987]

16 hours ago, Elizzikra said:

Serious question - is "smoke show" a good thing?

Yes, it's a compliment. 

13 hours ago, Gator Stud said:

I dont judge her for her topless kink or for her flashing, but like if she did that stuff on my honeymoon, I would not be married to her.  But if her man agrees with that, then that is ok. Also, there was no proven cheating.  So I dont know why people invent things that are not true.  Maybe next week there will be proof, but so far I have not seen any.  Karla is not high and mighty.  She is envious.

You don't know why people invent things that aren't true, and yet you've concocted an entire "topless kink" for one of the cast members. At this point, these posts read more like a bad troll attempt than anything. 

[Gator Stud]

50 minutes ago, JayDub1987 said:

Yes, it's a compliment. 

You don't know why people invent things that aren't true, and yet you've concocted an entire "topless kink" for one of the cast members. At this point, these posts read more like a bad troll attempt than anything. 

She literally said she like to go topless around people.  It was the first honeymoon episode where they were swimming together.  Like I said, I dont judge, but is that the thing people do on their honeymoons?  I dont understand the personal attacks.  I dont have TIME to troll people.  Trolling is not my kink.

[Elizzikra]

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Like I said, I dont judge, but is that the thing people do on their honeymoons?

Dude. Saying "is that the thing people do on their honeymoons" IS judging them. Or perhaps you just have a completely different definition of the word.

[Gator Stud]

28 minutes ago, Elizzikra said:

Dude. Saying "is that the thing people do on their honeymoons" IS judging them. Or perhaps you just have a completely different definition of the word.

I told you that I dont care about nudity or judge for that reason.  But you want to make it sound normal.  Like its normal to take your close off in front of new people on your honeymoon.  Like a person can do whatever they want without talking it over with their spouse.  Any man who objects is automatically a misogynist and slut-shaming because he disagrees with his new wife.  That is not what a marriage is about.  That is single life.

[Elizzikra]

2 hours ago, Gator Stud said:

I told you that I dont care about nudity or judge for that reason.  But you want to make it sound normal.  Like its normal to take your close off in front of new people on your honeymoon.  Like a person can do whatever they want without talking it over with their spouse.  Any man who objects is automatically a misogynist and slut-shaming because he disagrees with his new wife.  That is not what a marriage is about.  That is single life.

Calling it "abnormal" is judgmental. 

My husband would say that it's my body, ergo my choice. I don't tell him what to do with his body either. That is what marriages between two loving and respectful adults is about.

[Chatty Cake]

21 hours ago, Jeanne222 said:

Had he been matched with Michelle...another shit show  about something she didn't like.  His teeth, his clothes. It would have been something!  Count on it.

Michelle asked for a light skinned black guy so I don’t think she would have given him a chance at all. 
I didn’t think Allen was that handsome initially but he grew on me.  Plus he has a lot of other good qualities. 

14 hours ago, Gator Stud said:

I told you that I dont care about nudity or judge for that reason.  But you want to make it sound normal.  Like it’s normal to take your close off in front of new people on your honeymoon.  Like a person can do whatever they want without talking it over with their spouse.  Any man who objects is automatically a misogynist and slut-shaming because he disagrees with his new wife.  That is not what a marriage is about.  That is single life.

 I agree. I would not be comfortable if I was part of a group outing and another wife took her top off. I don’t want to see anyone else breasts and most men don’t want to see that in the presences of their wives. David would probably be okay with it but he’s a pig who doesn’t care about acting decently.

[Retired at last]

If anyone knew Karla, they would be unfazed by her showing her body because that is who she is. Besides, would anyone be impressed by her chest? Seriously. She has a great figure in clothes but when she wears skimpy clothes, there is NOTHING there to gawk at.

[Gator Stud]

4 hours ago, Chatty Cake said:

I agree. I would not be comfortable if I was part of a group outing and another wife took her top off. I don’t want to see anyone else breasts and most men don’t want to see that in the presences of their wives. David would probably be okay with it but he’s a pig who doesn’t care about acting decently.

Correct. And that is not what I am even judgeing her over.  I am judging her over being fake and judgmental. Karla is Michelle's Ride or Die.  They both are fake.  Karla was upset that her man friendzoned her and that Madison messed up the new friendship ring.  They were supposed to be friends for life, but David and Madison blew that up. So Karla is on the warpath. 

[atomic]

David's boobs are bigger than Karla's and nobody is losing their shit over him going topless on the boat and paddleboarding with Michelle. Also, for the last time, Karla did not go topless on the honeymoon. She said on Afterparty that she travels to Europe a lot and does go topless there, but didn't do it on the honeymoon. So she does seem to take into account the cultural norms and company she's with rather than just going topless without reading the room.

I've also never gotten jealous vibes from Karla. It was mentioned in the last episode that Madison was her closest girlfriend of the group, so I have no idea where Michelle being her ride-or-die came from. She straight up called Michelle a bitch on the Afterparty when they played a clip of Michelle being rude to David. And there was another time on Afterparty where she told Michelle to her face that she understood David looking elsewhere for affection under those circumstances. She's someone who unapologetically tells it like it is, which is the complete opposite of fake. 

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[Chatty Cake]

15 minutes ago, Gator Stud said:

Correct. And that is not what I am even judgeing her over.  I am judging her over being fake and judgmental. Karla is Michelle's Ride or Die.  They both are fake.  Karla was upset that her man friendzoned her and that Madison messed up the new friendship ring.  They were supposed to be friends for life, but David and Madison blew that up. So Karla is on the warpath. 

Yeah, all Karla’s spiritual stuff is a bunch of bull crap. However, even though she preaches all that nonsense and wears too revealing of tops, I felt it was fine of her to let Madison know that she was messed up. Taking up with David while keeping Allen hanging at the slightest chance was dirty. While nobody got time for Michelle being a victim, Madison was acting friendly towards her knowing she had the hots for her husband. Juan pretty much told David the same thing but his demeanor was friendlier than Karla’s was. 

[Elizzikra]

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Yeah, all Karla’s spiritual stuff is a bunch of bull crap.

To you maybe, but I think she genuinely believes it. And it's no crazier than what people in any number of other mainstream religions believe.

[Chatty Cake]

4 hours ago, Elizzikra said:

To you maybe, but I think she genuinely believes it. And it's no crazier than what people in any number of other mainstream religions believe.

I’m not sure she really believes in that or uses it as a way to avoid having a job.

[JayDub1987]

On 3/1/2025 at 3:43 PM, Gator Stud said:

She literally said she like to go topless around people.  It was the first honeymoon episode where they were swimming together.  Like I said, I dont judge, but is that the thing people do on their honeymoons?  I dont understand the personal attacks.  I dont have TIME to troll people.  Trolling is not my kink.

So she said she likes being topless? Because that’s quite different from your posts over the last 2 episodes where you said that she went topless. 

You know, words and actions…

[Jeanne222]

11 hours ago, Chatty Cake said:

I’m not sure she really believes in that or uses it as a way to avoid having a job.

Oh I think Karla is full on in her beliefs.  She loves reading the cards, banging the gong and Saging her living spaces.

Yes she'd take her clothes off.  Nothing sexual being meant by her nude body just her own freedom of movement and body.

I think if there had been any sexual attraction between Karla and Juan it could have been a good match.  She would have lightened him up a bit and maybe he could have taken her down from the clouds a bit.  I bet she's good at what she does at work just not diligent.

[Elizzikra]

16 hours ago, Chatty Cake said:

I’m not sure she really believes in that or uses it as a way to avoid having a job.

I guess there is no way for us to know. She just struck me as pretty genuine in her beliefs. I don’t know that it was her beliefs that led to the loss of her job as much as it’s her “free spirit” and her “inability to be managed.” I think she is flighty in a lot of ways, not just the woo-woo religious stuff.