S14.E12: Land of the Free, Home of the Shade

[bravofan27]

Dorit's comment (though Garcelle was the initiator) was wrong. I think she's taking some of the white stuff these days. She would normally never treat a guest in such a way.

I'm glad Sutton left. It allowed Kyle and Garcelle to go back to the party and broke up the clique.

 

[dancingdreamer]

What the heck was Boz wearing,fugly! Kyle listened  to how hot it was, and then put on jeans. Phew.

Thank-you  for the flowers Sutton, oh right, we jumped straight  to her purse.

Dorit seemed  like she was on something,  illegal  or legal, her eyes were kind of wild looking. I'm glad Sutton  left, that wasn't a joke Dorit, that was her being  extra nasty, because  Aunty Boz would  rescue  her later. I liked Boz, I'm slightly  turned off by some of the things she says lately. 

Reba was kind of cute at the start, the girls liked her.

The table in Dorits, full of PKs photos,  was that for his benefit,  should he turn up? I'll say yes. 

Kyle looked nice in her TH, Kathy  trying to act stunned ( mountain/molehill) wasn't  funny at all. 

I guess Dorit  and Kyle are in the same position,  I thought Dorits place  was like that, because  she had rented it recently. 

[ivygirl]

Good grief, Dorit sure isn’t insufferable, isn’t she? I am sure she LOVES being the “center of attention” but she’s doing it with zero class and zero being-interesting. The thing with Sutton’s purse irritated me even more than the kerfuffle over being a b-word. And even worse, like Keywestkid and others said, she made me cheerlead for Kyle in a way I haven’t in all my seasons of watching this show 🤣 

I mean, speaking of being rude… first Dorit ignores Sutton and then she ignores her other guests to have this stupid fight. 
 

And yeah, Boz needs to dial it back. I SO wanted to like her… she has a cool and interesting background… but geez, she just inserts herself on behalf of Dorit wayyy too much. 

Edited Wednesday at 08:41 AM by ivygirl

[Chatty Cake]

Boz needs to stop with this baby storyline. If Keely knows the history she shared with viewers then he should not be alright with her trying to get pregnant. This is making him look like a jerk. 

I really hope this is Dorits last season. There is nothing entertaining about her. Grabbing Sutton’s purse and saying she owed it to her was so odd. Why did Dorit think she should be gifted that purse? For being interrupted by Sutton? Awkward and beyond rude.

They end the episode with Kyle and Dorit discussing their separations again.  Neither tells us anything. 

 

[Keywestclubkid]

20 minutes ago, Chatty Cake said:

Boz needs to stop with this baby storyline. If Keely knows the history she shared with viewers then he should not be alright with her trying to get pregnant. This is making him look like a jerk. 
 

this part why not just do a surrogate? If you know how hard it is why at your age one put your body through that but two put you and your "new" relationship through it because he wants 1-3 more kids ..... Girl be real about this 

I mean if she REALLY wants a baby to keep this man "happy" then that or adoption (lots of kids need a home) would be a better alternative right?

[nexxie]

Sutton waited 30+ minutes to be greeted by the rude host, then had her purse grabbed by the unhinged host, and then was ridiculed for choosing a drink offered by the same vile host - amazing that she stuck around as long as she did.

Likely, Dorit dragged Kyle upstairs to show (for the court) how unsettling the separation has been - but it just showed the lifestyle of an entitled, overindulged, out of control person.

[Pi237]

1 hour ago, Chatty Cake said:

 

They end the episode with Kyle and Dorit discussing their separations again.  Neither tells us anything. 

 

Which is why I wish they would both STFU about it already. Dorit was quite pushy with Kyle, “Do you want a divorce? Do you want to reconcile?” Without letting Kyle answer. I’m sure it’d be her usual word soup of a non-answer but Dorit is really feeling herself this season.  She Needs this gig so bad, she’s just coming into every scene like she’s been shot out of a cannon.  Too bad she’s not entertaining, interesting, or charismatic enough to avoid looking like an unhinged shrieking harpy. 

[Keywestclubkid]

3 minutes ago, Pi237 said:

Which is why I wish they would both STFU about it already. Dorit was quite pushy with Kyle, “Do you want a divorce? Do you want to reconcile?” Without letting Kyle answer. I’m sure it’d be her usual word soup of a non-answer but Dorit is really feeling herself this season.  She Needs this gig so bad, she’s just coming into every scene like she’s been shot out of a cannon.  Too bad she’s not entertaining, interesting, or charismatic enough to avoid looking like an unhinged shrieking harpy. 

well Dorit needs to know how to play her storyline .. if Kyle is reconciling then she has to too ..

I know im a bitch for thinking this ( yes ill own it lol) but nothing about suddenly having a separation when the girl you were glomed onto is .. it just feels "off" like she needed the attention to .. One gets robbed the other gets robbed one goes through a separation the other has to .. its like get your own identity 

Edited Wednesday at 12:25 PM by Keywestclubkid

[Mr. Miner]

5 hours ago, dancingdreamer said:

Kyle looked nice in her TH, Kathy  trying to act stunned ( mountain/molehill) wasn't  funny at all. 

Her schtick never has been cute or funny.

Edited Wednesday at 12:29 PM by Mr. Miner

[Keywestclubkid]

Watch out Boz now that you wanna have a baby suddenly Dorit will want a baby storyline 

[Baltimore Betty]

9 hours ago, njbchlover said:

I thought those hamburgers looked terrible - so thin and greasy on the grill.  I know burgers need a little bit of fat to add flavor (I use an 80/20 or 85/15 beef blend), but they looked like a bad diner/greasy spoon level of burger. 

I missed Kyle eating the burger - did she have it on a bun?   

The grease was real with those burgers! 80/20 is the way to go for sure.

I think she ate it on the bun, maybe adding another hour to her workout?

When Erika pondered about her hot dog and said, "I'm just wondering when I'm going to get a kosher hot dog," I thought it was euphonism for finding a nice Jewish guy with money, lol.

Dorit's kids got lanky didn't they? I keep thinking of them as being 3 and 5 years old, kids do grow up fast.

Sutton should not have left the party, she should have stayed and annoyed Dorit by her very presence. 

Dorit knows the money situation is not great, please tell me that Bravo kicked in for at least the blow-up slide or something otherwise we are looking at vendors that did not get paid.

 

32 minutes ago, Keywestclubkid said:

well Dorit needs to know how to play her storyline .. if Kyle is reconciling then she has to too ..

I know im a bitch for thinking this ( yes ill own it lol) but nothing about suddenly having a separation when the girl you were glomed onto is .. it just feels "off" like she needed the attention to .. One gets robbed the other gets robbed one goes through a separation the other has to .. its like get your own identity 

Maybe Dorit is Single White Femaling Kyle, lol.

I was shocked to see Dorit's closet/bedroom what a shit show, how did it get that bad so fast? 

11 hours ago, Surrealist said:

I'd rather be called a bitch than a c*** (which is my most loathed word).

You are calling me a bitch like it's a bad thing is what Sutton should have said.  We have all met Reba, that apple (Sutton), does not fall far from the bitch tree, she comes by it naturally.

 

[Keywestclubkid]

22 minutes ago, Baltimore Betty said:

 

 

Maybe Dorit is Single White Femaling Kyle, lol.

I was shocked to see Dorit's closet/bedroom what a shit show, how did it get that bad so fast? 

 

 

isnt their house in foreclosure? 

[JenE4]

I suppose the show forced Dorit to invite Sutton (and, likewise, forced Sutton to attend), and Dorit used the opportunity to take the upper hand of a “my house, my rules” dynamic. I would think it’s a power move to keep Sutton waiting by herself for over a half hour—but it is typical Dorit to be late because she’s so wrapped up in getting ready. But the way she immediately came at Sutton snatching her purse and saying, “You owe me” over and over while grasping the purse tighter!!! That was oddly menacing. It was like the opening scene of a Lifetime movie and you’re like, Oh, snap! That’s the psycho killer!! Watch out, lady!! Dorit was “after” Sutton from the jump, so she was taking any opportunity to needle her, including the drinking comment. Of course all of these things added up everyone can see Dorit was acting bitchy toward Sutton. But Dorit was clutching her pearls, oh, my, the audacity of insulting me in my own home! She was even more upset that everyone followed Sutton to the foyer to attend to her, and no one was left to dab Dorit’s tears in the shocking aftermath of being called a bitch in her own home. Of course, that’s not going to trigger any introspection on whether she was perhaps acting a bit bitchy because Dorit is in her standing up for herself era. She’s had enough, and she’s not going to take it anymore! Which, okay, that’s her right. But don’t be surprised when your husband and your friends and frienemies decide they don’t want to stick around and listen to you berate them.

[SweetieDarling]

12 hours ago, WaltersHair said:

Erika is just sitting there eating her hotdog being grateful she isn't the target for the first time in four years. Of course, this is when she is the most boring.

I was half expecting her to eat the hot dog like Taylor eating the cotton candy in season 1

[Keywestclubkid]

I think what annoys me about Boz was she came in and immediately took Doirt's side and started scolding the girls on what they were doing wrong without asking what lead up to you guys standing here .... 

it was just 100% fuck you guys be nice to Dorit ... I hope she watched that back and was like damn maybe I should have kept my mouth shut for 5 min to get the whole story instead of jumping on them 

 

but I don't think she will 

 

 

Edited Wednesday at 02:18 PM by Keywestclubkid

[Pi237]

Agreed, and it seemed Kyle (& maybe Garcelle) was going to explain to Boz that there was history there, but Dorit derailed the conversation by telling Kyle, "I dont know whats going on with you" Another copycat of Kyle's, 'I dont even recognize you at this point' at Sutton's surreal party. What's next? Fake cancer and casseroles?

[SweetieDarling]

21 minutes ago, Keywestclubkid said:

I think what annoys me about Boz was she came in and immediately took Doirt's side and started scolding the girls on what they were doing wrong without asking what lead up to you guys standing here .... 

it was just 100% fuck you guys be nice to Dorit ... I hope she watched that back and was like damn maybe I should have kept my mouth shut for 5 min to get the whole story instead of jumping on them 

 

but I don't think she will 

 

 

You would think, with all of her upper management experience, that she would know to get all sides of the story before making judgements, rather than jumping to conclusions.

 

Edited Wednesday at 02:39 PM by SweetieDarling

[janiema]

Sutton hit the nail on the head.  Dorit resents her because Sutton came out of her divorce in good financial shape. (Kyle will too.). Dorit, on the other hand, will not have much because there doesn’t appear to be much wealth there at all.

[Keywestclubkid]

19 minutes ago, janiema said:

Sutton hit the nail on the head.  Dorit resents her because Sutton came out of her divorce in good financial shape. (Kyle will too.). Dorit, on the other hand, will not have much because there doesn’t appear to be much wealth there at all.

A foreclosed house .. rented couture fake jewelry.. knockoff designer stuff , back taxes.. back due bills.. yea she’s not coming out of this as loaded as she thinks she will 

[ZettaK]

Dorit was never nice. It was not even the first time she told somebody not to raise their voice at her (like she did with Kyle at The Viper Room). I was watching a few minutes of a rerun from 2016 (?) a couple of days ago, and she told Eileen Davidson the same. She is rude often. She was 39 minutes late in greeting Sutton and Kyle, and she acted like it was a chore (she even said she didn't want to see those two arriving first). She also grabbed Sutton's bag. She didn't seem to be joking either about wanting the bag. She knows the show is her only job, doesn't she? 

It is typical (especially after the early seasons of the HW franchises when things were more organic) for new cast members (like Boz), and old ones in need of a storyline (Dorit) to attack an OG cast member, and befriend another one. Some overdo it.

Sutton has a habit of leaving in anger, eg. because she was not told others brought a gift, so she didn't bring one, because the Magic Mike crew didn't invite her to the stage, and now this. Sutton was annoyed because she had to wait for Dorit, Dorit grabbed her bag, and Dorit made the comment about drinking alcohol. She told Dorit though that "she was such a bitch".

Sutton should be careful about discussing failed businesses. Her store closed within three years of opening, and her new business venture she was talking to her mother about doesn't seem like such a great idea.

Dorit's breasts are ridiculously large (gigantic), especially right next to her stick thin arms.

 

Edited Wednesday at 05:09 PM by ZettaK

[RealHousewife]

3 hours ago, Mr. Miner said:

Her schtick never has been cute or funny.

Genuine slip-ups can be funny, but I generally don't love dumb blonde style of humor.  Kathy can have a good delivery sometimes, but other times she tries too hard imo. 

[njbchlover]

9 hours ago, dancingdreamer said:

 

Kathy  trying to act stunned ( mountain/molehill) wasn't  funny at all. 

 

 

3 hours ago, Mr. Miner said:

Her schtick never has been cute or funny.

Plus, the whole "mountain/molehill holemill thing was done years ago much better by Ramona from RHONY!!

 

[njbchlover]

3 hours ago, Keywestclubkid said:

well Dorit needs to know how to play her storyline .. if Kyle is reconciling then she has to too ..

I know im a bitch for thinking this ( yes ill own it lol) but nothing about suddenly having a separation when the girl you were glomed onto is .. it just feels "off" like she needed the attention to .. One gets robbed the other gets robbed one goes through a separation the other has to .. its like get your own identity 

EXACTLY!!!!  Dorit needs to know which way to play her separation story, based on how Kyle and Mauricio do it.  I agree with you 1,000%!!

It reminds me of that old song from the musical "Annie Get Your Gun".  "Anything you can do I can do better - I can do everything better than you".  

[ZettaK]

1 hour ago, janiema said:

Sutton hit the nail on the head.  Dorit resents her because Sutton came out of her divorce in good financial shape. (Kyle will too.). Dorit, on the other hand, will not have much because there doesn’t appear to be much wealth there at all.

That's why she is so angry on the show, and desperate to "bring it".

[Cosmocrush]

Much like The Countess in the old days, HWs telling us what impeccable manners they have are often the ones committing the most obvious faux pas and Sutton, I'm looking at you.      I don't have a problem with Sutton calling Dorit a bitch or dramatically leaving early (again) but then don't continue to talk about your fine southern manners. 

There must have been more to the drinking thing because it seemed like Sutton way overreacted when Garcelle asked her if there was alcohol in her drink. 

[Keywestclubkid]

I think in Sutton’s head after Dorit was being passive aggressive then brought up the of course she’s drinking it was a flashback to last season when they tried to frame her as a alcoholic who is ALWAYS drunk … I’m sure she was like no we arnt doing this again and is why she had the reaction she had 

Dorit knew what she was doing 

[Pi237]

16 hours ago, RealHousewife said:

I don't think Dorit was kidding about the bag. 

Seriously!  She didn't crack a smile the entire time, even when she saw how uncomfortable she was making everyone. If you joke like that, you at least laugh a little , you don't keep glaring at the person saying, 'Oh, I think you Do! [owe me]!". That was Bizarre!   She talked about calling PJ's other side 'the Monster.'  I think we're seeing Doritos 'other side' and its Creepy - said in  Scary Island Kelly's voice, because I think Dorit was eating her jelly beans.

[Baltimore Betty]

4 hours ago, Keywestclubkid said:

isnt their house in foreclosure? 

I believe I have heard that too.

[Cosmocrush]

14 minutes ago, Pi237 said:

Seriously!  She didn't crack a smile the entire time, even when she saw how uncomfortable she was making everyone. I

And then in her talking head she told us she would have forgiven Sutton everything if Sutton had just given her the handbag, the handbag Sutton was using.  Weird.  

 

[Chit Chat]

26 minutes ago, Cosmocrush said:

There must have been more to the drinking thing because it seemed like Sutton way overreacted when Garcelle asked her if there was alcohol in her drink. 

I thought it was odd that Garcelle mentioned to Sutton there was alcohol in her drink.  I'm not accusing Sutton of having a problem with alcohol, but that little exchange between her & Garcelle seemed rather odd.

1 minute ago, Cosmocrush said:

And then in her talking head she told us she would have forgiven Sutton everything if Sutton had just given her the handbag, the handbag Sutton was using.  Weird.  

I was waiting for Dorit to laugh it off about wanting the purse, but she seemed dead serious, as in 'let's duel for this bag, bitch!'

[Surrealist]

4 hours ago, SweetieDarling said:

I was half expecting her to eat the hot dog like Taylor eating the cotton candy in season 1

 

Probably more like this: 

[njbchlover]

5 minutes ago, Chit Chat said:

I thought it was odd that Garcelle mentioned to Sutton there was alcohol in her drink.  I'm not accusing Sutton of having a problem with alcohol, but that little exchange between her & Garcelle seemed rather odd.

I was waiting for Dorit to laugh it off about wanting the purse, but she seemed dead serious, as in 'let's duel for this bag, bitch!'

I actually thought that Garcelle was asking about alcohol in that watermelon drink because she wanted an alcoholic beverage - not questioning Sutton's drinking.

As far as that purse thing - it was very, very creepy-strange to me.  Dorit seemed a little unhinged in that moment, and acted like a petulant child arguing with a parent.  

You DO owe me!!!

No, I don't!

YES (insert a Dorit dramatic pause).....ya do!!! 

No, I don't!!  

YA (insert another Dorit dramatic pause).... do!!!!  

I was waiting for Dorit to stamp her foot and run upstairs, still clutching the bag tightly. 

Did Dorit really think that Sutton was just going to give in to her and say "Oh, okay - you can have the bag?"  Is she that delusional?  

I do think that, at this point in time, Dorit is very jealous of both Sutton and Kyle's wealth and subsequent trappings from that wealth. I think she's always been jealous of Sutton's wealth and now, she's letting it show.  You do occasionally see inklings of that in the way she throws some jabs at Kyle now, as well.  

I'm still wondering exactly what was said in that 7/8 page email PK sent her.  Did it basically say - "Dear Dorit - guess what - we're flat broke and if you want to maintain this over the top perception of a living rich lifestyle you'll need to finance that yourself because we're tapped out and I'm getting out of town before everything crashes down.  Sincerely, PK"???  

[Chit Chat]

5 minutes ago, njbchlover said:

I actually thought that Garcelle was asking about alcohol in that watermelon drink because she wanted an alcoholic beverage - not questioning Sutton's drinking.

I rewatched it to make sure I didn't misquote Garcelle, because I tend to remember things incorrectly from time to time!!  

Garcelle:  "Uh, Sutton.  What are you drinking, honey?

Sutton: "Um, the watermelon something."

Garcelle:  "Oh, there's alcohol in it."

Sutton:  "Yes."

Garcelle:  "Gotcha." 

Sutton:  "Not tons."  

It seemed like Garcelle's tone was one of concern, as if she felt the need to keep an eye on Sutton in that regard.  I'm not saying my interpretation is correct, but that's how I saw that conversation! 

 

[Cosmocrush]

6 minutes ago, njbchlover said:

I do think that, at this point in time, Dorit is very jealous of both Sutton and Kyle's wealth and subsequent trappings from that wealth. I think she's always been jealous of Sutton's wealth and now, she's letting it show.  You do occasionally see inklings of that in the way she throws some jabs at Kyle now, as well.  

Both Dorito and Kyle are living through big marital changes but in my opinion that's where the commonality stops.  They are not the same. 

Kyle spent 30 years as a team with Maurico. They raised four kids together,  worked hard at legit careers together, and built a pretty damn good life.  My theory is when Kyle hit some sort of crisis (the death of her best friend?)  she probably thought she could count on him and was a little stunned when she could not and obviously still grappling with that.    My heart clutched a bit when they showed the gossip pic of Maurico and some woman 20 years Kyle's junior embracing in Greece.   The end of any 28 year partnership is sad to me. 

Dorito and PJ are grifters, wannabe social climbers who haven't been together even a decade.  I don't know who's raising their kids (are the two nannies still on the payroll?) but I know it's not PK and both their sources of income have been a mystery since we met them.  Instead of staging shrines to PK and all the woe is me over him, I honestly think Dorito would do better to start looking around for her next husband. 

 

 

[Keywestclubkid]

41 minutes ago, Cosmocrush said:

 

  My heart clutched a bit when they showed the gossip pic of Maurico and some woman 20 years Kyle's junior embracing in Greece.   The end of any 28 year partnership is sad to me. 

 

I mean he could have brought her on the show like Kyle did with **redacted** 

Edited Wednesday at 07:27 PM by Keywestclubkid

[bravofan27]

Sutton's comment, "I came in American peace" made me laugh.

Why does Dorit hate Sutton so much? I'm confused.

My heart kind of stopped a second when Garcelle tripped. I thought she was going to get hurt. 

Sutton said, "Dorit brought up the vodka thing" to Ericka, and Ericka just nodded and said okay. So there must be something more to the dig.

If Boz needs a deep conversation to get close to Kyle, they will never be friends.

I don't think Boz has been hard on Kyle, I think that's just Boz and Kyle is not used to being around someone with a dominant approach. 

[goofygirl]

The thing that shocked me the most was the condition of Dorito's upstairs!  Especially all those empty racks and all those boxes everywhere.  What the hell happened to her "CURATED" pieces of clothing that she's usually so proud of?

All I saw was big old mess!

[Baltimore Betty]

14 minutes ago, goofygirl said:

The thing that shocked me the most was the condition of Dorito's upstairs!  Especially all those empty racks and all those boxes everywhere.  What the hell happened to her "CURATED" pieces of clothing that she's usually so proud of?

All I saw was big old mess!

Poshmark.

[RealHousewife]

6 hours ago, JenE4 said:

I suppose the show forced Dorit to invite Sutton (and, likewise, forced Sutton to attend), and Dorit used the opportunity to take the upper hand of a “my house, my rules” dynamic. I would think it’s a power move to keep Sutton waiting by herself for over a half hour—but it is typical Dorit to be late because she’s so wrapped up in getting ready. But the way she immediately came at Sutton snatching her purse and saying, “You owe me” over and over while grasping the purse tighter!!! That was oddly menacing. It was like the opening scene of a Lifetime movie and you’re like, Oh, snap! That’s the psycho killer!! Watch out, lady!! Dorit was “after” Sutton from the jump, so she was taking any opportunity to needle her, including the drinking comment. Of course all of these things added up everyone can see Dorit was acting bitchy toward Sutton. But Dorit was clutching her pearls, oh, my, the audacity of insulting me in my own home! She was even more upset that everyone followed Sutton to the foyer to attend to her, and no one was left to dab Dorit’s tears in the shocking aftermath of being called a bitch in her own home. Of course, that’s not going to trigger any introspection on whether she was perhaps acting a bit bitchy because Dorit is in her standing up for herself era. She’s had enough, and she’s not going to take it anymore! Which, okay, that’s her right. But don’t be surprised when your husband and your friends and frienemies decide they don’t want to stick around and listen to you berate them.

Yeah, like I said in my other post, I get the whole "my own home" thing to a point, but not only was Dorit incredibly rude as the host, all the cast and the audience know Sutton only went to Dorit's house because that is basically her office for that day of work! It's a little icky to keep repeating my home, my home, how dare she. I get that Dorit is trying harder than ever to keep her job, but it just seems so unnecessary to go in THAT hot at Sutton. Sutton's worst crime is being insensitive towards Dorit, but it's always been Dorit who's been the aggressor imo. People sometimes don't get why Sutton and Garcelle don't always buy what Dorit is selling and can come across as cold towards her problems, but if you've watched previous seasons, it all makes sense. Dorit has always had an aggressive side. She just never came across too terrible because the behavior of other cast members was often worse (Rinna, Erika, Diana, sometimes Teddi or Kyle).

I'm also glad others agree about the purse. We've all had or at least seen playful exchanges of wanting one another's belongings, but Dorit wasn't coming from a playful place. It was so awkward and bizarre. 

1 hour ago, Cosmocrush said:

Both Dorito and Kyle are living through big marital changes but in my opinion that's where the commonality stops.  They are not the same. 

Kyle spent 30 years as a team with Maurico. They raised four kids together,  worked hard at legit careers together, and built a pretty damn good life.  My theory is when Kyle hit some sort of crisis (the death of her best friend?)  she probably thought she could count on him and was a little stunned when she could not and obviously still grappling with that.    My heart clutched a bit when they showed the gossip pic of Maurico and some woman 20 years Kyle's junior embracing in Greece.   The end of any 28 year partnership is sad to me. 

Dorito and PJ are grifters, wannabe social climbers who haven't been together even a decade.  I don't know who's raising their kids (are the two nannies still on the payroll?) but I know it's not PK and both their sources of income have been a mystery since we met them.  Instead of staging shrines to PK and all the woe is me over him, I honestly think Dorito would do better to start looking around for her next husband. 

Agree. PK can be funny, and the Kemsley children are adorable. But I just never thought aww when I watched PK and Dorit. I have always enjoyed Kyle's wife and mother scenes. She and Mauricio did build a great life together, seemed to genuinely love each other, and both appear to be hands-on parents. Despite her unusual Hollywood upbringing, Kyle's family always appeared the most normal to me-not married to a way older dude, children were not sent to boarding school or had any scandals, just a typical family that happened to be in Beverly Hills. 

 

8 hours ago, nexxie said:

Sutton waited 30+ minutes to be greeted by the rude host, then had her purse grabbed by the unhinged host, and then was ridiculed for choosing a drink offered by the same vile host - amazing that she stuck around as long as she did.

Likely, Dorit dragged Kyle upstairs to show (for the court) how unsettling the separation has been - but it just showed the lifestyle of an entitled, overindulged, out of control person.

Yes! I've thought this about both Dorit and Erika. I don't know if it's because they're beautiful women, but they seem to think they're owed the world for existing. Other people's time matters, and you have no right to live like a princess when you or your husband owe other people money.

[janiema]

2 hours ago, goofygirl said:

The thing that shocked me the most was the condition of Dorito's upstairs!  Especially all those empty racks and all those boxes everywhere.  What the hell happened to her "CURATED" pieces of clothing that she's usually so proud of?

All I saw was big old mess!

It looked like Dorit was getting ready to move and was clearing stuff out.

Edited Wednesday at 10:14 PM by janiema
Change to Dorit

[hoodooznoodooz]

1 hour ago, goofygirl said:

The thing that shocked me the most was the condition of Dorito's upstairs!  Especially all those empty racks and all those boxes everywhere.  What the hell happened to her "CURATED" pieces of clothing that she's usually so proud of?

All I saw was big old mess!

Maybe she is suffering from the same thing that ailed Ariana Madix, Vanderpump Rules.

The very public break-up seemed to trigger some kind of terrible slob tendencies. She had packages and boxes everywhere. Left half-eaten food in her bedroom. Gifts of clothing everywhere. 

 

[Salacious Kitty]

21 minutes ago, janiema said:

It looked like Sutton was getting ready to move and was clearing stuff out.

That was Dorit's house. 

[njbchlover]

27 minutes ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

Maybe she is suffering from the same thing that ailed Ariana Madix, Vanderpump Rules.

The very public break-up seemed to trigger some kind of terrible slob tendencies. She had packages and boxes everywhere. Left half-eaten food in her bedroom. Gifts of clothing everywhere. 

 

Or, maybe Dorit really is just a sloppy person and doesn't have the same staff of housekeepers cleaning up after her.  

I think the boxes and empty clothes racks are just as @Baltimore Betty said upthread - she's packing things up to sell on Poshmark or some other re-sell websites, or, she's returning stuff to vendors or stores that "loaned"* those pieces to her to wear while filming.  

*I use the term "loaned" loosely here.  Dorit may be another one of those people who purchase something, tuck the tags inside the garment and return it after she's worn it for a refund.

[bencr]

9 hours ago, nexxie said:

Sutton waited 30+ minutes to be greeted by the rude host

Who would do that? You could see the party going on outside. Go outside and greet your host later ... unless, of course, this was just a performative stunt to show how rude the host is.

[heatherchandler]

8 hours ago, Baltimore Betty said:

was shocked to see Dorit's closet/bedroom what a shit show, how did it get that bad so fast? 

And why did she drag Kyle upstairs for us all to see that?  That was deliberate, she didn’t have to bring her upstairs.

[Chit Chat]

3 hours ago, Cosmocrush said:

Kyle spent 30 years as a team with Maurico.

Granted, I missed a few seasons of this show.  I didn't come back until Rinna was gone, so I probably missed a lot, but Kyle's been so vague about the details of her separation, and I'm confused as to the actual facts of what happened between them.  It seemed like she pulled away from him, then she didn't want them to be together, but now she's unhappy because she's all alone.  Kyle doesn't seem to know what she wants.  

I'd understand if he cheated on her, but with Kyle, I don't know if her statement that 'he broke her trust' was for that reason or if it was something else. We'll probably never know the whole story.  I'm curious as to what their daughters really think about the whole thing.

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51 minutes ago, Salacious Kitty said:

That was Dorit's house. 

You are right of course. Brain fart on my part.

[dancingdreamer]

1 hour ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

Maybe she is suffering from the same thing that ailed Ariana Madix, Vanderpump Rules.

The very public break-up seemed to trigger some kind of terrible slob tendencies. She had packages and boxes everywhere. Left half-eaten food in her bedroom. Gifts of clothing everywhere. 

 

Ariana had the tendency  to be a bit of a slob, long before the break up. It was something  they argued about. 

I thought  some of Dorits  things looked a bit staged. One thing I did notice, was her weight loss. Dorit has always  been slim, but the show before  last night's was about two years ago. Her face last night, in comparison  to two years ago, was a bit scary. Maybe it was a lack of filler, but she doesn't  look healthy  at all. Even  though  I don't  particularly  like Dorit, I hope someone  is keeping  an eye on her.

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44 minutes ago, bencr said:

Who would do that? You could see the party going on outside. Go outside and greet your host later ... unless, of course, this was just a performative stunt to show how rude the host is.

Dorit said Sutton and Kyle were the first guests - seemed like only the kids and party planners in the yard. It’s all performative - including Dorit not being able to find a specific piece of jewelry, making her late (as always).

[bencr]

I thought both Dorit and Sutton were pretty obnoxious to each other this episode. Others have made the case for Dorit, here is a case for Sutton:

1. She told her makeup artist she didn't want to go to the party (so much for sisterhood). Okay, we all go to parties we don't want to, and most of us try to have a good time anyway.

2. Rather than joining the party which you could see was going on out back, she chose to wait in the foyer for 35 minutes waiting for Dorit, performatively reading magazines and on her phone, and being rude and judgmental about her host. Then when Kyle arrived she couldn't wait to tell her how rude Dorit was. It was Sutton's one true moment of happiness this episode.

3. I don't think we saw how Dorit got the handbag, but I think we can assume that Dorit was making an awkward joke about how she was going to keep it. That's what people do sometimes as a compliment about how I wish it was mine. Instead, Sutton acted like she was the victim of a robbery, making the whole situation awkward.

4. Sutton made a crack about not going on the water slide, which I (rightly or wrongly) took as her way of saying I don't belong here.

5. Finally, Sutton't reaction to Dorit's lame, ill advised cracki. -- which everyone, even Garcelle, knew was a joke. Storming out in tears was so over the top that it brought me back to my first point -- that is, Sutton didn't want to be there n the first place and this was her opportunity to leave.