Beyond the Gates: Daily Episode Discussion

[ZaleaBloom]

Nicole and Ted can only have a biological son that is 34-35 years old if they are 52-53 and had him at 18. It's not an impossible timeline, it's just tight with no room for error.

[wonderwoman]

12 minutes ago, ZaleaBloom said:

Nicole and Ted can only have a biological son that is 34-35 years old if they are 52-53 and had him at 18. It's not an impossible timeline, it's just tight with no room for error.

except, it was established in the first episode that nicole and ted met at a medical conference. even if they met while they were still in medical school, they the youngest they could have been is 23-24. 

and nicole being the sensible sister, she likely wouldn’t have gotten pregnant until she started her residency — so make that 26-27. and as the sensible sister, no way she got knocked up at 18. 

i wonder if the michele val jean is aware of all this discussion re age? is there a future reveal? or just a careless, unforced error? i mean without martin’s and smitty’s late-teen kids, the whole thing goes away.  

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[ZaleaBloom]

6 minutes ago, wonderwoman said:

except, it was established in the first episode that nicole and ted met at a medical conference. even if they met while they were still in medical school, they the youngest they could have been is 23-24. 

and nicole being the sensible sister, she likely wouldn’t have gotten pregnant until she started her residency — so make that 26-27. and as the sensible sister, no way she got knocked up at 18. 

i wonder if the michele val jean is aware of all this discussion re age? is there a future reveal? or just a careless, unforced error? i mean without martin’s and smitty’s late-teen kids, the whole thing goes away.  

Right, right, I forgot. This is mildly hilarious because I assume Martin and Smitty's teenagers were adopted late while others are now assuming Martin was adopted late. In my defense, we know for a fact that the twins are adopted and Martin/Brandon actually favors Nicole/Daphne, not that that means anything definitively on a soap opera. It's still early but they really need to clean their timeline continuity up. They're getting full mileage out of the fact that Black people never look their ages right now, lol.

[drivethroo]

42 minutes ago, Kmr said:

Maybe doing all the dirty work to keep the Duprees clean made him hate being married to one.

I think Bill targeted Dani to gain entry into the Duprees' world and they've never trusted him but they had to tolerate him because he was Dani's husband and father of her children.  I also think he began "fixing" stuff for the Duprees to gain favor and leverage with them.

We still don't know what it is about Hayley that made Bill leave Dani after 30 years, especially since he had cheated all through the marriage.  What's so special about Hayley?

(I actually like Hayley). 

I suspect Joey is going to call in some favors to Doug like getting somebody hooked on drugs or killing somebody on the operating table.

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[AnimeMania]

S01.E12: Tuesday, March 11, 2025

[ShadowHunter]

Ted could have had the affair with Leslie after his brother died. If it was an affair as he said he could have spiraled a bit. The paying her off is the real crazy part. Speaking of crazy Leslie is def that in spades. Even Eva seemed rattled while they were on the phone. I know she may it sound like Ted ditched her for Nicole but her timeline events or the truth of what really happened could be lost on her. She is not stable.

[mariah23]

I think I’ve got the reasoning for the Ted/Dana/Leslie/Sherry/Sheila/Alex Forrest affair figured out.  
 

In one of Kat’s bios it said she was Nicole and Ted’s “miracle baby.”  So presumably the couple had fertility problems and/or miscarriages or stillbirth.  That can create a lot of problems for even the stablest of couples.

[Rodney]

So Kat actually knows about Chelsea liking threesomes?  And she knows about the couple with whom she's slept?  While she didn't put a label on it, it does sound like Chelsea might be pan.

About time that Tomas resurfaced.  I want to see what happens with him and Kat.

So Ted and Leslie (now Sherry) really were together?  So Eva really is his daughter?  Wow.

I thought that Dani heading Bill off at the pass with her own interview was a girlboss move so epic, I was blown away.  Good to see that Vernon and Anita were impressed, too.

I hope that Bill and Hayley's honeymoon means that they'll be offscreen for a while.

I didn't see all of yesterday, but I did understand that Jacob was likely in the doghouse with Naomi after arresting her mother.  I'm glad that Dani set Naomi straight that he was just doing his job and shouldn't be thrown away over it.

I kind of like the Mona/Jan/Leslie friendship scenes.  They give Leslie somewhat of a redeeming quality, seeing that she does have some people for whom she genuinely cares.

All in all, decent episode.

[drivethroo]

55 minutes ago, mariah23 said:

In one of Kat’s bios it said she was Nicole and Ted’s “miracle baby.”  So presumably the couple had fertility problems and/or miscarriages or stillbirth.  That can create a lot of problems for even the stablest of couples.

Even more reason to think Martin is adopted.

51 minutes ago, Rodney said:

I hope that Bill and Hayley's honeymoon means that they'll be offscreen for a while.

They're never going on that honeymoon LOL

52 minutes ago, Rodney said:

I didn't see all of yesterday, but I did understand that Jacob was likely in the doghouse with Naomi after arresting her mother.  I'm glad that Dani set Naomi straight that he was just doing his job and shouldn't be thrown away over it.

We saw from today's flashback Jacob knew about the Bill & Hayley affair all along and never told Naomi and she felt a way about that. She probably thought this was more of the same when it came to Jacob arresting her mother.

I wonder how Jacob found out about Bill & Hayley.

[Sake614]

according to SON, they’ve cast one of Martin and Smitty’s kids.

Jaden Lucas Miller is seeing his big break in acting. He is set to make his debut in CBS’ new daytime drama, Beyond the Gates, on Wednesday, March 12, as Tyrell Richardson.

I kind of wish they’d slow their roll when it comes to adding new cast members. The show just started and already has a huge cast that we’re still learning about. I’d hate to see it lose momentum because there are too many people to keep track of!

[Rodney]

1 hour ago, Sake614 said:

I kind of wish they’d slow their roll when it comes to adding new cast members. The show just started and already has a huge cast that we’re still learning about. I’d hate to see it lose momentum because there are too many people to keep track of!

I don't agree about that.  Lots of cast members makes the show feel like a community, with so many characters intertwining with one another.  Just an ensemble doesn't always give that feeling.  So I don't mind the large number.

[ShadowHunter]

Nice seeing more of Tomas today. Alex Alegria is in the opening credits and we have not  seen much of him yet. Interested to see where things go with him and Kat.

I appreciate Dani standing up for Jacob and telling Naomi to understand the position he was in. 

 

[backhometome]

So many press conferences. 

Feel bad for the spouses of the Duprees. Jacob and Smitty come second to the family.

Naomi, Dani getting arrested was not an injustice. She was waving a gun at people. She didn't even spend the night in jail. 

The show is better without Ashley/Derek and the boring gambling story. 

 

 

[Sake614]

38 minutes ago, Rodney said:

I don't agree about that.  Lots of cast members makes the show feel like a community, with so many characters intertwining with one another.  Just an ensemble doesn't always give that feeling.  So I don't mind the large number.

I respect that, but it’s already very much an ensemble show. Of course I can only speak for myself, but I’d really appreciate getting to know the existing characters better before bringing in new people even if they’re tied to existing characters.

[ShadowHunter]

Strange that Kat and Martin didn't go to the interview for their  Mom but Chelsea and Naomi went. I know Kat told Chelsea she was missing her Mom's awards ceremony for work but she was still around when the interview happened. I guess they knew it would end up being about Dani and not Nicole lol.

[michelec]

1 hour ago, backhometome said:

Naomi, Dani getting arrested was not an injustice. She was waving a gun at people. She didn't even spend the night in jail. 

 

 

When Naomi compared Dani to Rosa Parks, I was through. Melodramatic, much?

[Sake614]

Naomi is starting to remind me of Summer from Y&R. These women knew they were getting involved with cops but somehow expected total fealty when it came to their own families. 🙄

[DearEvette]

5 hours ago, Rodney said:

I kind of like the Mona/Jan/Leslie friendship scenes.  They give Leslie somewhat of a redeeming quality, seeing that she does have some people for whom she genuinely cares.

 

2 hours ago, Rodney said:

I don't agree about that.  Lots of cast members makes the show feel like a community, with so many characters intertwining with one another.  Just an ensemble doesn't always give that feeling.  So I don't mind the large number.

 

I think the show needs another family rather than the one off characters like the Nurse and Shady Doug.  Right now the Duprees seem to the be sun that everyone seems to be rotating around. The Leslie/Mona/Jan scenes show that there is another possible dynamic.  Middle class people who aren't always on display and who have other concerns and their own story hook.  Yeah Leslie is an adjunct story to the Duprees but at least these scenes round her out a bit and make her less of a one note character.

I imagine the show will expand out that way at some point and build out another full on family.  I think if they had another fully fleshed family with their own drama away from the Duprees, it would feel like some of the pressure could be taken off of the Dupree family and especially Dani to maintain the drama and  would be more of an interesting hook than what they are giving us with Nurse and Doug.

[Badsamaritan]

I do see both points about the size of the cast. I'm hoping they settle into a rhythm with their A/B/C etc stories so that they're more grouped together on certain days, and we can get more familiar with all the relationships. Because I really do like that they have supporting folks getting scenes, like Mona/Jan/Leslie and Jacob meeting his new partner, Shaft. It does feel like world building to me. But I am wondering, as much as Leslie been showing up at the hospital, it seems like she forgot that Mona and Ashley both know who she is, and if they catch her there and Nicole sees her and thinks she's Sherry Carter, she gonna have a whole lot of explaining to do. 

Bill is so obsessed with Dani. WHY YOU LOOKING AT PICS OF HER, BILL? HMMM?? 

I don't think Hayley's gonna get that Italian honeymoon. Or, maybe she will, but catches her new husband stalking Dani online. 

[Centurion]

Hey everybody 

New kid on the block here.

I'm loving this show but I admit that I hate the revelation about Ted. I wonder why they opted to make cheaters out of both of the Dupree sisters' husband/,ex-,husband back to back? Looks like Eva is going to perform her own little DNA test using the cup that Ted was drinking from. Too bad they didn't run with the twin theory that I saw being bandied about.

[TiffanyNichelle]

7 hours ago, drivethroo said:

They're never going on that honeymoon LOL

Bill will end up whisking Dani away to Italy for an affair before he and Hayley go on that honeymoon. He is just as obsessed with Dani is with him. They are messy!

[mbluecpa]

6 hours ago, TiffanyNichelle said:

He is just as obsessed with Dani is with him. They are messy!

Bill’s little Google search (which, btw, nice mockup of the search results from the behind the scenes crew) and look on his face cemented that for me too. Someone last week or so suggested hate sex might be in their future and I could see that coming down the road.

I liked the scene with Chelsea and Kat talking about Chelsea’s “situationship.” I don’t know if this will lead to a deeper storyline but it’s unique (to me) for daytime, and I’m enjoying watching Colby Muhammad (Kat).

Add me to the list thinking that Martin is adopted given the ages.  Every time I see him, I have to remind myself he’s Ted and Nicole’s son and not Ted’s brother.

[wonderwoman]

15 hours ago, Sake614 said:

 

I kind of wish they’d slow their roll when it comes to adding new cast members. The show just started and already has a huge cast that we’re still learning about. I’d hate to see it lose momentum because there are too many people to keep track of

not just losing momentum, but viewers getting frustrated — even burned out. i know i’ve been feeling overhelmed, not to mention, exhausted  

as i said to a friend: too much happening too quickly to too many characters we’ve only just met. 

 

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