S15.E17: Reunion, Part 2

[TV Glotzer]

OK, I’ll just come out and say it.

I, for one, do not believe Brynn was raped. I believe at some point in her life she had an experience with a guy that became uncomfortable, maybe worse, but not raped.

But, like every other fucking word that comes out her mouth, the story became “embellished.” Nobody believes anything else she says so why the blanket acceptance of this story?

Since she somehow got them all to rally around her at the end, maybe she actually does work in PR and is good at it. 

[Baltimore Betty]

9 minutes ago, TV Glotzer said:

OK, I’ll just come out and say it.

I, for one, do not believe Brynn was raped. I believe at some point in her life she had an experience with a guy that became uncomfortable, maybe worse, but not raped.

But, like every other fucking word that comes out her mouth, the story became “embellished.” Nobody believes anything else she says so why the blanket acceptance of this story?

Since she somehow got them all to rally around her at the end, maybe she actually does work in PR and is good at it. 

I do not fully believe Brynn's SA story either, she weaponized too much and is a known liar, this does a disservice to women who have been victims of SA.

I also think that apartment we saw this season is not hers, we only saw the sofa and the kitchen, when she put the dog in the bedroom because she didn't want Erin to see the dog (really odd, right?), I do not think the dog was even in the apartment, what dog doesn't bark to be let out of a room when they hear their owner in another room?

 

[ZettaK]

4 hours ago, Pi237 said:

That should’ve been shown-it wasn’t until the reunion, correct? Because it explained why Brynn targeted her business so much, and why the others weren’t trying to invest much time into a relationship with her. 

She didn't want to invest into a relationship with them (what she said about caring to promote her brand only was cynical, and she could have avoided saying it because she is supposedly a successful business person who knows better), and they didn’t want to do it either. It was mutual. I also wonder if her success had to do with her being a Scientologist. We know the connection helps, eg. actors/entertainers with average talent have careers they wouldn't otherwise.

Edited February 6 by ZettaK

[ninjago]

I don't understand why it is so verboten to say you don't believe Brynn's SA story.  Brynn lies about everything.  She lies maliciously to hurt people for no reason and she lies to manipulate people.  When caught in her lies, she obfuscates and downplays.  When the spin doesn't work and she is cornered, she cries and claims victimhood.  She is canny and deliberate in her lies and she knows-as has been shown on the show and in social media-that "right-minded" people aren't going to question an SA claim.  This is her trump card and it worked so well the other women ended up apologizing to her.

That she had to stress that the attacker was a rich guy who was "courting" her and is part of the Hamptons social scene and accusing the other women of asking "how rich is he?" is further proof that this is all part of her fantastical, made up life story.

[Pi237]

Brynn could definitely be lying or embellishing her story,  but with the Long, Painful history of women either not being believed or being blamed (she flirted, she dressed sexy, etc) for their assaults, I always believe them first until proven otherwise. But yes, she doesn’t help herself when she continues to lie during the reunion. A few times the cast would all interrupt her to say, I didn’t say that! She didn’t say that! So she certainly could just be a pathological liar.  No way to prove it which is always the sticky part about he said/she said assaults. Either way, I’d Never film with her again because her accusations could destroy reputations. She’s dangerous. 

[Keywestclubkid]

Even tho Brynn does embellish things im gonna take her SA claim as real .. she just has the classic signs of it being real with her actions ..

[bosawks]

I am also of the belief that she was raped.  She may be lying about every single one of the specifics but the crux of the matter of her being a rape survivor I believe to be true.

[SweetieDarling]

Brynn embellishes everything she says with lies, and her stories are inconsistent, so it really is hard to believe anything she says. I do believe something happened to Brynn because it would be totally heinous to lie about something like that, and I'd like to believe she's not that evil of a person.

I did find it odd that she used the term "courting" when she said the man was "courting" her. I don't know anyone that uses that term, for some reason that stuck out to me.

Edited February 6 by SweetieDarling

[Keywestclubkid]

17 minutes ago, SweetieDarling said:

Brynn embellishes everything she says with lies, and her stories are inconsistent, so it really is hard to believe anything she says. I do believe something happened to Brynn because it would be totally heinous to lie about something like that, and I'd like to believe she's not that evil of a person.

I did find it odd that she used the term "courting" when she said the man was "courting" her. I don't know anyone that uses that term, for some reason that stuck out to me.

Southern men and women use it ... its big on southern charm 

[lasu]

There is no upside to speculating if Brynn is lying about being raped, but you do considerable harm to other women. It just reinforces the idea that you won't be believed. I PROMISE you, there are probably dozens of women reading this thread who had their own rapes questioned for various reasons.

And just for the record, liars get raped too. Perhaps are even targeted because this thread proves they won't be believed. I can't blame Brynn for not going to the police. 

[ZettaK]

I also think she was raped. It doesn't matter/it's not relevant if she fibbed about other issues. 

Edited February 6 by ZettaK

[njbchlover]

One thing I did greatly appreciate about the RHONY reunions was that the husbands/partners did not appear on the reunion.  It was so much nicer than the reunions where they parade the spouses out so they, too, can get into stupid arguments.  Maybe that's why the reunion was only two installments? 

Aside from a few incidences, the NY spouses did not play a huge role in any of the women's drama on the show, and I prefer that.  Wasn't it NeNe from RHOATL who said "Stay out of the women's business"?  

I mean, we saw the spouses/partners that wanted to participate with their spouses/partners as we should - in home settings or out on dates, etc.  They did not become primary cast members like the NJ husbands/partners try to be.

[Book Junkie]

On 2/5/2025 at 6:04 AM, Keywestclubkid said:

Actually let me edit this

 

im sorry but to me Scientology isnt a religion.... its a cult ... and yes most religions come across as cult like I get it but there is just something sinister about the whole thing ..

cutting kids off from parents.. telling those kids NOT to trust anyone that doesn't think like they do and to turn in family members that are "suppressive"  ... working "members"  to death in "camps" and forced labor kidnapping them and forcing them into situations .. “members” being ostracized for asking questions as being a suppressive person being penalized for being "suppressive"  .. being threatened with blackballing and cutting you off from your family, blackmail of members …paying to become more close to whatever alien they believe in ..to top it all off the super secrecy about the whole thing ... and them going after anyone that speaks out with attacks from PI's and others

 

Members have had to flee in the night in the backs of trunks of cars or smuggled out with the help of others outside the "religion" being watched and followed at all times is NUTS

 

the list for this goes on and on . its insane 

And, according to the documentary, "Going Clear", the reason Scientology is recognized as a religion is because for decades, members harassed IRS employees and officials until the IRS finally gave in and bestowed tax credits on them, officially declaring them a religion that got all of the tax free benefits of a religion.

[heatherchandler]

On 2/4/2025 at 9:08 PM, Pi237 said:

Wow, it worked. They're all kissing Brynn's ass now. Gross.

So gross!  She’s disgusting.  This show sucks.

 

 

20 hours ago, OlderThanDirt said:

It feels like they had a third hour planned, but decided during the "Long, long break" to cut their losses and wrap it up. They didn't discuss the season at all, just that last night. Every time an issue was brought up, the guilty person copped a plea and said I'm so sorry. 

That’s fine, there was nothing else to talk about.  There was never anything to talk about!

 

18 hours ago, TV Glotzer said:

OK, I’ll just come out and say it.

I, for one, do not believe Brynn was raped. I believe at some point in her life she had an experience with a guy that became uncomfortable, maybe worse, but not raped.

But, like every other fucking word that comes out her mouth, the story became “embellished.” Nobody believes anything else she says so why the blanket acceptance of this story?

Since she somehow got them all to rally around her at the end, maybe she actually does work in PR and is good at it. 

I kinda don’t believe anything she says.  

[ZettaK]

8 hours ago, njbchlover said:

One thing I did greatly appreciate about the RHONY reunions was that the husbands/partners did not appear on the reunion.  It was so much nicer than the reunions where they parade the spouses out so they, too, can get into stupid arguments.  Maybe that's why the reunion was only two installments? 

Aside from a few incidences, the NY spouses did not play a huge role in any of the women's drama on the show, and I prefer that.  Wasn't it NeNe from RHOATL who said "Stay out of the women's business"?  

I mean, we saw the spouses/partners that wanted to participate with their spouses/partners as we should - in home settings or out on dates, etc.  They did not become primary cast members like the NJ husbands/partners try to be.

The spouses appeared at the reunion last season, and at the OG version reunions. But I prefer to see less of them. 

Edited February 7 by ZettaK

[Pattycake2]

Everyone admitted that they think Brynn embellishes.  My question is if everyone believed that, why did they believe the stories coming out of Brynn’s mouth?  Why didn’t anyone ever counter with a Ok Brynn, what’s the real story?  Or, c’mon Brynn!  Or, Hey Jessel, Brynn just said this about you.  It can’t possibly be true?

Am I crazy or a couple of episodes ago, didn’t they show Brynn on the phone mentioning the rape?

[janiema]

They believed this because they are naive.  Brynn should be fired because of the rumor she started about Jessel’s marriage. This had nothing to do with Ubah but was the most evil thong Brynn did. Fire her!!

[snarts]

1 hour ago, Pattycake2 said:

Am I crazy or a couple of episodes ago, didn’t they show Brynn on the phone mentioning the rape?

There was a scene with Brynn talking to her brother about the assault. In it, she distinctly tells him that he's the only person she's told.

This season was filmed in the Spring of 2024 while she claims to have told Ubah in November 2023. 

Liars lie so damn much, they lose track...even when they're being filmed!

[JohnnyU]

On 2/4/2025 at 9:48 PM, Pi237 said:

The shine off of her dress is so distracting. It should come with one of those flashing/strobe lights warnings.

At least it makes her somewhat more interesting.  If they would mute her Mike that would be an improvement.

[JohnnyU]

On 2/5/2025 at 6:12 AM, Chatty Cake said:

Pet peeve, Andy kept referring to this as the RHONY season 15 reunion. To me it was a season 2 reunion. Don’t lump this group/season in with the OGs early fabulous seasons.

Thank you.  It’s a shame that Eboni K🙄 ruined what was the OG franchise (at least in my opinion) so they had to totally revamp with this group.   😕

A damn shame!

[whydoievencare]

To me, Erin's behaviour  is almost as egregious as Brynn's.  She shits on everyone and then claims she didn't.  She twists everything so somehow she's the offended party.  She's the classic mean girl.  Brynn lies constantly and also accepts no responsibility for her actions.  She just doubles down.  She is totally untrustworthy.  Ubah - I like that she calls out everyone on their shit but I hate that she won't accept any criticism at all.  I truly wish those three don't come back for next season.  But especially Brynn and Erin.

 

[Keywestclubkid]

9 hours ago, whydoievencare said:

To me, Erin's behaviour  is almost as egregious as Brynn's.  She shits on everyone and then claims she didn't.  She twists everything so somehow she's the offended party.  She's the classic mean girl.  Brynn lies constantly and also accepts no responsibility for her actions.  She just doubles down.  She is totally untrustworthy.  Ubah - I like that she calls out everyone on their shit but I hate that she won't accept any criticism at all.  I truly wish those three don't come back for next season.  But especially Brynn and Erin.

 

Erin is the worst .. let me talk mad shit about you then run to you to tell you what everyone else said while minimizing my input.. girl that’s not a friend 

[hoodooznoodooz]

For some reason, Ubah strikes me as the worst. Because, yes, Brynn and Erin are self-righteous, and won’t own their horrible behavior and nasty claims. But Ubah keeps insisting that she’s superior to everybody, and that Naomi wish! Gisele wish! Ubah is hot. Everyone is fighting off one another to schlep her luggage. The Red Sea parts for Ubah.
 

Baseless arrogance triggers me. 

[ichbin]

On 2/5/2025 at 7:38 PM, hoodooznoodooz said:

Ubah is not very intelligent and cannot express herself very well.

She is also bat$hit crazy.

Was she deserving of what Brynn dished out, no, but she exists on her own planet. Her whole "Good? I want them to be afraid of me" shtick was ridiculous and a really bad look. Then she goes on folds for Brynn. She's obviously all talk. She really does come off like a vacuous nitwit. She's lucky she was gifted looks to fall back on.

8 hours ago, Keywestclubkid said:

Erin is the worst .. let me talk mad shit about you then run to you to tell you what everyone else said while minimizing my input.. girl that’s not a friend

Are any of them friends? Everytime "friend group" is mentioned my eyes are about ready to roll out of my head. I don't believe any of these people have anything to do with one another on a personal level. 

[Keywestclubkid]

57 minutes ago, ichbin said:

Was she deserving of what Brynn dished out, no, but she exists on her own planet. Her whole "Good? I want them to be afraid of me" shtick was ridiculous and a really bad look. Then she goes on folds for Brynn. She's obviously all talk. She really does come off like a vacuous nitwit. She's lucky she was gifted looks to fall back on.

Are any of them friends? Everytime "friend group" is mentioned my eyes are about ready to roll out of my head. I don't believe any of these people have anything to do with one another on a personal level. 

ERIN Brynn and Sai were right? Cause they talked about a history they had the others I think were just thrown together 

[Pattycake2]

On 2/7/2025 at 7:56 PM, janiema said:

They believed this because they are naive.  Brynn should be fired because of the rumor she started about Jessel’s marriage. This had nothing to do with Ubah but was the most evil thong Brynn did. Fire her!!

I don’t think the ladies are naive.  This is their second season and they should know how it works.  I also think that Brynn went way past the line.  However,  there seems to be a lack of accountability from the others.  Banding together against Brynn at the reunion made it easier to justify their own behaviors.  They gleefully enjoyed Brynn’s gossip especially the bit about Jessel.  And since Jessel didn’t find out what was said about her until she viewed the show, none of the other ladies filled her in.  The ladies also consumed and passed along Erin and Rebecca’s prank.  Heck, gossip can be fun, but you’ve got to recognize your own role in it.

[JohnnyU]

Erin tops my list as one of the”housewives” I can’t stand the most along with Carlton the doorman and Eboni the show killer Williams.

 

[Stats Queen]

On 2/9/2025 at 10:15 PM, JohnnyU said:

Erin tops my list as one of the”housewives” I can’t stand the most along with Carlton the doorman and Eboni the show killer Williams.

 

 

[hoodooznoodooz]

5 hours ago, Stats Queen said:

 

Oh, that font!

[Baltimore Betty]

6 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

Oh, that font!

Hello this is Carlton your doorman.

I loved Rhoda.