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S07.E05: Til Death

Snazzy Daisy

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Zaffy

Zaffy

I could ask some AI bot, but I think I can manage just fine by myself: I predict the serial killer will target Nyla, her family or one of her friends/colleagues. Cause this is what serials killers do on TV, they go after cops.

I confess... I find the Texas rookie 10 times more annoying than Bailey. I even find him more annoying than Elijah. I am not American, but I really dunno  what I would I do if I had to work with someone talking like this, it is not the accent only, he is like a walking stereotype.

Maybe Seth and the Texas dude are both serial killers. Maybe everyone is a serial killer and they are having their annual  convention in LA.

Shame on me (maybe...) but I do not mind what Bailey did, she saved us from another idiot villain. Good job girl!

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Raja

Raja

5 hours ago, EtheltoTillie said:

Annoying fake Texas accent guy was not happy to see his girlfriend. 

Right now it seems to be playing that the lifestyle of a cop in a Houston suburb would have a much better lifestyle than being "the best" officer in Los Angeles. Living in his car and Smitty's token rent didn't allow him to save enough to support a partner. Deputy Enos did return to Hazard County after a year on LAPD Metro.

Nolan had the excuse that most police departments wouldn't take an old man.

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milkyaqua

milkyaqua

Yes, I called the Nolan finding out about Bailey and her call the assassin.  I wanted to be wrong but this show wouldn't let that happen.  I don't want to see Nolan and Bailey at odds simply because this entails too much Bailey.  Ugh!

And yes, Lucy needs to let Gray in on Seth.  He's beyond shady and pitying him is going to bite her in the behind and possibly Tim since he also knows.

Texas rookie didn't look happy to see girlfrield because he has no real place to live.  I thought when she called she'd be doing a Dear John which would have made more sense.  Who comes to one of the highest cost of living areas in the U.S. without having plans/job/place to stay, first and I don't mean plans like, stay with my boyfriend.

Nyla is definitely going to be targeted and probably her family and colleagues.  Because of course Mr. Serial Killer will have to prove just how smart he is.

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Red Bridey

Red Bridey

Seriously, can young Houstonians be stupid enough to just quit their jobs and jump on a plane to join their boyfriends unexpectedly in one of the most expensive cities in the country? And Texas Rookie hasn't told Girlfriend that he was living out of his car at first and now is sharing a trailer in a parking lot with a cranky crazy cop? 

Blind Rookie is lying lying LYING about the cancer recurrence too. 

Don't care at all about Bailey and the crazy ex and the murdering Malvolio. Not too interested in Serial Killer and Nyla. These ongoing plots are too ridiculous to be believable. But still I watch.

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preeya

preeya

2 hours ago, shapeshifter said:

Who is playing Mr. Serial Killer, and where have I seen him before?

From Wikipedia: "Seth Gabel (born October 3, 1981) is an American actor. He is known for his roles of agent Lincoln Lee on Fox's television series Fringe, Cotton Mather on WGN America's series Salem, and Adrian Moore on the FX series Nip/Tuck. He is a grand-nephew of actor Martin Gabel."

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sweetandsour

sweetandsour

I don't agree at all with how the writer had Lucy and Tim frame the Seth issue.  It's not simply because he lied a couple of times.  It's not that he lies "on the job," but not "about the job" as Tim put it.  And even in those terms, Seth is in fact lying about the job.  He tosses out his lies as excuses for his poor performance so that performance is minimized and/or the person he is lying to backs off any consequences.  He lied about OD gf because he corrupted a crime scene with his puke, he lied about car crash gf because he did such a piss-poor job photographing the car accident, and he lied about cancer (the first time) because he was late to work.  Now lying about cancer again because he's been caught in his lies!

I'm sure if Smitty lied about forgetting to do something or being late somewhere with the excuse, "I was qualifying for the Olympics," that lie would be treated differently.

It drives me nuts when I see articles do the same mis-framing.  Like Dani Mather, that awful ex-Playboy woman who took a photo of an older naked woman in a gym locker room and posted it to her IG with the caption, "If I have to see this, you do, too" or something like that.  Almost all of the articles about her being expelled from 24 Hour Fitness and facing criminal charges cited the "body shaming" first.  Yeah, she did that, but she is not a convicted criminal because she said mean stuff about how a woman looks.  It was about invasion of privacy.

I agree with all others that Lucy needs to tell Grey about it immediately.  But not "he lied about a couple of tragedies," as she said to Tim.  He lies to make excuses for incompetence.  Tim said, "Grey isn't going to bounce him just because he brags."  Bragging is not the problem!!!  If bragging was the problem, the country boy probie would have been kicked out on Day 1.

I am so tired of this show making their villains such mustache-twirling caricatures.  Jason was out here trying to tie Bailey to some railroad tracks.  I really hope they let Seth Gabel play this serial killer with a more low-key evil.  He can do the caricature villain (the vertigo Count on Arrow, for example) and the shifty maybe-vlliain (Big Sky).  Just let him play it cool.

Also agree Nolan was a total idiot for not suspecting "the drunk girl" who tripped his alarm.  She said she climbed over something to get in, but Nolan has a very tall courtyard door and walls outside his front door.  She did not drunkenly climb over that in her confusion!!!  Come on, you are a non-rookie police officer!

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Snazzy Daisy

Snazzy Daisy

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Nyla has poked the bear! Please don’t drag the hunt for Glasser. This show tends to do that with every serial killer. The actor who plays Liam Glasser has a weird hairstyle, I thought he’s wearing a wig. 😬

Am glad Jason is dead, finally! Malvado makes a mistake by killing the girlfriend first because he’s alerting Jason about his presence. Duh.

We all know there’ll be subplots on marital issues between Nolan/Bailey and Nyla/James. UGH. Not looking forward to this tedious stuff.

Seth was a hero cop for a week. Then he pulls a cancer card on Lt. Grey, ensuring his stay in the LAPD. He’s pathologically twisted. 

I guess we won’t be seeing Simone Clark talking to Lucy about her guidance counsellor experience in navigating this issue with Seth. 🤣

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Jodithgrace

Jodithgrace

“My cancer is back, but don’t worry, I’m fine! I can finish my training, no sweat.” I mean, really? Did Gray ask for any Doctor's reports or anything?

Lucy has to tell Gray  about the lying. She was just about to have him kicked out, and he was “saved” by his totally nonspecific cancer. Right. 
 

So, the death promised by the episode title was Jason’s. I knew it was somebody’s spouse, and I guess Jason (sigh) more or less counts. But of course Bailey more than held her own against him because she’s superwoman. And also stupid woman for not getting rid of that burner phone. Though in the end, she didn’t point Malvolio at him, because he wasn’t in Detroit. Still, it’s not going to make for a fun Valentine’s Day next week at chez Nolan.

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shapeshifter

shapeshifter

3 minutes ago, Jodithgrace said:

“My cancer is back, but don’t worry, I’m fine! I can finish my training, no sweat.” I mean, really? Did Gray ask for any Doctor's reports or anything?

Lucy has to tell Gray  about the lying. She was just about to have him kicked out, and he was “saved” by his totally nonspecific cancer. Right. 

Fingers crossed🤞 and hoping Lucy and Gray are in cahoots to find out what Rookie Liar is trying to pull, because, you know, it cannot just be that he's a compulsive liar — which is why I'm thinking he's Serial Killer's protege. 

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Madding crowd

Madding crowd

Seth would have to have a report from his doctor saying he could continue his training while being treated for cancer. It seems unlikely to me that he would be well enough to do the rigorous job they do on this show and still be getting chemo or radiation treatments.

My husband is a police officer and people undergoing treatment are usually on leave or at a desk job. Of course real life cops aren’t chasing serial killers or snipers every day either. I don’t know how Seth could lie about this because HR would require proof of illness if he requires any type of accommodation and if he claims to be getting all treatments on his days off and remains in perfect health, that would be a real red flag. 

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milkyaqua

milkyaqua

1 hour ago, Madding crowd said:

My husband is a police officer and people undergoing treatment are usually on leave or at a desk job. Of course real life cops aren’t chasing serial killers or snipers every day either. I don’t know how Seth could lie about this because HR would require proof of illness if he requires any type of accommodation and if he claims to be getting all treatments on his days off and remains in perfect health, that would be a real red flag. 

Exactly.  I don't many jobs that would take a person's word for it that they have a serious illness without seeing some sort of doctor's note.  Heck, I know my job requires a doctor's note if you're out sick for three days in a row.  Forget about a possible disease that requires treatment like chemo where that person is going to be suffering side effects.

15 minutes ago, Raja said:

Now that Celine is in the short sleeves portion of her probationary year does it seem like they are putting Lisseth Chavez in form fitting workout gear at a higher rate than anyone else in the cast has been in? First stripping down to infiltrate a suspect's location in an earlier episode and now running while mentoring Seth and Texas..

I did notice her workout gear and I did sort of raise an eyebrow.

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Angeltoes

Angeltoes

20 hours ago, preeya said:

From Wikipedia: "Seth Gabel (born October 3, 1981) is an American actor. He is known for his roles of agent Lincoln Lee on Fox's television series Fringe, Cotton Mather on WGN America's series Salem, and Adrian Moore on the FX series Nip/Tuck. He is a grand-nephew of actor Martin Gabel."

He is also the son-in-law of Ron Howard because he's married to Bryce Dallas Howard.  I remember him from Dirty Sexy Money.

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zapper

zapper

so I don't expect a lot of realism from this show, but ...

how did that guy under the trailer hatch door pull the rug all nice and tidy over the hatch after he was under it?

Jason seemed to get hit in the lower abdomen, kidney area. How did he die so instantly? Sure, a hit to the liver would have him bleed out fast, but not die instantly, or would it?

Seems like sloppy something in both places.

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Raja

Raja

29 minutes ago, Netfoot said:

Maybe the shot hit higher up? Left side -- maybe a heart-shot?

 

Then that would be an error from the special effects crew as the squib effect looked lower. I can't recall seeing where the girlfriend was hit. I just wondered why a sniper would give away his presence to shoot her first. Had she spotted him and was about to shoot was about the only justification besides wanting his target to suffer from seeing a loved one killed before he died.

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Netfoot

Netfoot

21 minutes ago, Raja said:

Then that would be an error from the special effects crew as the squib effect looked lower.

I agree. I recall being surprised when they announced he was dead because the shot looked too low (to my non-physician eyes) to be a heart shot. Mind you, a rifle shot to the chest or abdomen, especially at close range has a high possibility of being fatal, but I would have expected them to make his departure more clear. I was expecting him to be suing them from his bed in SICU for the rest of the seasons. Or something.

Red Bridey

Red Bridey

See, I didn't even realize he was dead! I thought for sure he'd be in ICU and somehow be able to get that evil redheaded superwoman attorney to sue the LAPD for not protecting him from getting wounded and then miraculously heal and continue his vendetta against Nolan and Bailey and infinitum. Because this show is relentless! Glad to read he's pushing up the daisies.

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christie

christie

On 2/7/2025 at 6:08 AM, zapper said:

so I don't expect a lot of realism from this show, but ...

how did that guy under the trailer hatch door pull the rug all nice and tidy over the hatch after he was under it?

Jason seemed to get hit in the lower abdomen, kidney area. How did he die so instantly? Sure, a hit to the liver would have him bleed out fast, but not die instantly, or would it?

Seems like sloppy something in both places.

I have another question: how did the assassin guy track Bailey's phone thus leading to him finding her and Jason?

bros402

bros402

On 2/5/2025 at 2:45 AM, EtheltoTillie said:

The jig is up for Bailey. Can they get rid of her?  Why didn’t Nolan recognize that the blond lady was casing the joint last episode?  That was obvious from the getgo. So much idiocy here.
 

I like the serial killer plot. 

Yeah, Nolan should've recognized that she was casing the place. It shouldn't have taken to this episode for him to realize that.

And, yes, please get rid of Bailey.

On 2/6/2025 at 10:34 AM, Madding crowd said:

Seth would have to have a report from his doctor saying he could continue his training while being treated for cancer. It seems unlikely to me that he would be well enough to do the rigorous job they do on this show and still be getting chemo or radiation treatments.

My husband is a police officer and people undergoing treatment are usually on leave or at a desk job. Of course real life cops aren’t chasing serial killers or snipers every day either. I don’t know how Seth could lie about this because HR would require proof of illness if he requires any type of accommodation and if he claims to be getting all treatments on his days off and remains in perfect health, that would be a real red flag. 

Yeah, I sure hope DefinitelyFakeCancer Rookie submitted a letter from his doctor. Unless Grey is taking him at his word.

But since he's an AYA, he would be under close surveillance, since iirc he said that he is less than five years out from NED? So he would be getting regular checkups.

Treatment all depends on the cancer he claims he has. Since he's a liar liar pants on fire, he will probably claim some kind of solid tumor cancer that requires IV chemotherapy and surgery and radiation to get all of the sympathy possible.

If he ends up actually having cancer, it's probably going to be something like stage 0 melanoma that was removed via Mohs and is just closely monitored. Not to diminish melanoma, of course - it's just that it would be less treatment than if he claimed some super aggressive thing.

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bros402

bros402

15 hours ago, Red Bridey said:

Wasn't Bailey on the phone with Malvolio when Jason/Justin/jerkwad attacked her? And JJJ was swearing that he hadn't disabled the phone after he threw her in the back seat. But was the phone the burner or her legit one? Maybe Malvolio was tracking both somehow because, you know, criminal masterminds... 

I believe he was swearing "I didn't throw out her phone grr argh i'm so stupid"

I wasn't paying too close attention, but yeah. Nolan was tracking her phone until it was tossed. I guess Super Duper Hitman Man was tracking her phone, too. Maybe she dropped a pin for him? 😆

bros402

bros402

On 2/12/2025 at 11:10 AM, jabRI said:

I mean, even with HIPAA, they'd need to involve HR to get the necessary clearance for him to continue training, to avoid any liability in the future, right? You aren't just going to take someone at their word that they are cleared by their doctor

I mean HR would process the paperwork - the trainee wouldn't qualify for FMLA, but I bet the union has some strong protections for sick employees, even rookies. FMLA paperwork asks the nature of the illness that the effected person has and how long it is expected to last. It's also required to be filled out by the treating medical professional.

Also, uh, the test results would be abnormal, not irregular. Okay, that's the last cancer nitpicking I am doing in this post 😆

Raja

Raja

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On 2/13/2025 at 10:05 PM, bros402 said:

I mean HR would process the paperwork - the trainee wouldn't qualify for FMLA, but I bet the union has some strong protections for sick employees, even rookies. FMLA paperwork asks the nature of the illness that the effected person has and how long it is expected to last. It's also required to be filled out by the treating medical professional.

From the beginning they have acted like the T.O. or Sergeant Grey could bounce a Boot on their word alone as Officer Chen was about to do. Nolan was only saved by his Captain and Sergeant Grey knocked out the next old guy for an accidental discharge of his weapon no other questions asked.

Maybe Sergeant Bradford as a T.O. trainer is letting Lucy work out the courage to go forward with the dismissal of Seth.  Officer  Nolan with his golden ticket has only had Officer Suarez it is not a challenge that he has faced

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