chitowngirl Wednesday at 09:36 PM Share Wednesday at 09:36 PM When a young man is found dead in his car, Elsbeth visits the holistic wellness center he'd just left, and begins to suspect its charismatic founder. Airdate January 30, 2025 on CBS Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151637-s02e09-unalive-and-well/
AnimeMania Yest. at 01:46 AM Share Yest. at 01:46 AM Eric McCormack as Tom Murphey Danny Mastrogiorgio as Detective Smullen Katie Huang as Lydia Dan Cordle as Ron Marcia Debonis as Sheryl Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151637-s02e09-unalive-and-well/#findComment-8568397
ItCouldBeWorse Yest. at 04:10 AM Share Yest. at 04:10 AM (edited) I feel that the "Howdunnit" was obvious from the start in this episode. I also don't know why Elsbeth felt Kayla was unusually wonderful in this case. She wasn't with her for the majority of the episode, and Elsbeth was the one who figured out the mustard oil/sesame oil connection, as well as how it was administered to Cole (the later of which I figured out as soon as Cole started scarfing down doughnuts on his way out of the spa.) I half expected Tom to have bugged the only phone. I turned away for a moment - how did Elspeth figure out the code to get into the frog terrarium? Was it just the 2nd or 3rd random combination she tried? Edited Yest. at 04:10 AM by ItCouldBeWorse Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151637-s02e09-unalive-and-well/#findComment-8568516
possibilities Yest. at 05:13 AM Share Yest. at 05:13 AM (edited) If you're prone to anaphylaxis, please carry an epi pen! Edited Yest. at 06:25 AM by possibilities typo 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151637-s02e09-unalive-and-well/#findComment-8568547
ItCouldBeWorse Yest. at 06:19 AM Share Yest. at 06:19 AM (edited) 1 hour ago, possibilities said: If you're prone to anaphylaxis, please carry an epi pen! You may not be referring to Cole, but it's not clear to me that he could have reached over, opened his glove compartment, and injected himself while both driving and undergoing an allergic reaction, even if he had realized he'd been "poisoned". Edited Yest. at 06:20 AM by ItCouldBeWorse 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151637-s02e09-unalive-and-well/#findComment-8568580
possibilities Yest. at 06:23 AM Share Yest. at 06:23 AM He would have to pull the car over, but the epi should be kept easily accessible at all times. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151637-s02e09-unalive-and-well/#findComment-8568582
Irlandesa Yest. at 06:26 AM Share Yest. at 06:26 AM 1 minute ago, possibilities said: He would have to pull the car over, but the epi should be kept easily accessible at all times. He had one in the car. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151637-s02e09-unalive-and-well/#findComment-8568583
ItCouldBeWorse Yest. at 01:17 PM Share Yest. at 01:17 PM 6 hours ago, Irlandesa said: He had one in the car. Yes, in his glove compartment. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151637-s02e09-unalive-and-well/#findComment-8568649
shapeshifter Yest. at 02:44 PM Share Yest. at 02:44 PM There was a lot to like in this episode, but it was overshadowed by the future dark plot arc dropping, exemplified by the rift of Kara's trust in Elspeth. This felt shoe-horned in, and may have detracted from The Episode That Could Have Been. Eric McCormack's and Carrie Preston's acting under the direction of Nancy Hower made this episode.… …and also the crocheted scarf. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151637-s02e09-unalive-and-well/#findComment-8568702
Irlandesa Yest. at 03:10 PM Share Yest. at 03:10 PM I was a little tired while watching this episode and I found I zoned out and missed things that I had to rewind for. I'm not sure I like this divorce plot. Unless I missed something, it's just not all that interesting to me. Elsbeth is a lawyer. She's supposed to represent her client. She has defended some unsavory people. Sometimes she may not have known how unsavory they were but the crisis of conscience just doesn't make much sense to me. Frankly, neither does Kara's distrust. She knew what Elsbeth did. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151637-s02e09-unalive-and-well/#findComment-8568721
AnimeMania Yest. at 04:56 PM Share Yest. at 04:56 PM 12 hours ago, ItCouldBeWorse said: I turned away for a moment - how did Elspeth figure out the code to get into the frog terrarium? Was it just the 2nd or 3rd random combination she tried? The password wasn't random, it was "MIDORI", I don't understand why they would have a different password required to exit. I was surprised that the female staff member wasn't helping Tom do all the bad things that he was doing. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151637-s02e09-unalive-and-well/#findComment-8568781
ItCouldBeWorse Yest. at 05:54 PM Share Yest. at 05:54 PM (edited) 1 hour ago, AnimeMania said: I was surprised that the female staff member wasn't helping Tom do all the bad things that he was doing. She seemed eager to take over the spa. And she certainly knows about the frogs. I wonder if she plans to use them (she didn't sign any settlement agreement.) Edited Yest. at 06:02 PM by ItCouldBeWorse 1 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151637-s02e09-unalive-and-well/#findComment-8568822
shapeshifter Yest. at 06:12 PM Share Yest. at 06:12 PM 1 hour ago, AnimeMania said: The password wasn't random, it was "MIDORI", I don't understand why they would have a different password required to exit. Why was there a password to exit at all??? 1 hour ago, AnimeMania said: I was surprised that the female staff member wasn't helping Tom do all the bad things that he was doing. Nice twist. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151637-s02e09-unalive-and-well/#findComment-8568841
possibilities Yest. at 06:15 PM Share Yest. at 06:15 PM Needing a password to exit, to me implies they had used the dome as a murder trap previously. And especially having a password that';s different than the one to enter-- I have never heard of such a thing! 2 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151637-s02e09-unalive-and-well/#findComment-8568842
Broderbits Yest. at 06:23 PM Share Yest. at 06:23 PM I liked Wendell Pierce mentioning the press attacking Meagan Markle, since he played her father on Suits. 7 2 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151637-s02e09-unalive-and-well/#findComment-8568852
possibilities Yest. at 06:34 PM Share Yest. at 06:34 PM I really need to learn to crochet. I already knit, but Elsbeth makes me understand that really isn't enough. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151637-s02e09-unalive-and-well/#findComment-8568864
babyrambo Yest. at 07:40 PM Share Yest. at 07:40 PM Eric McCormack does insufferable kook very well. I wanted him gone before I even knew what he did. The culty retreat was a lot, but I liked Elsbeth’s retreat partner and that actress in general, I don’t know her her name but she’s a great character actress. I missed Kaya & Elsbeth partnering up though. Seeing Elsbeth work the cases is fun but their dynamic is the draw for me. And I know they did it mostly for the visual gag, but the newspaper thing made me wonder about just how often people really read printed newspapers these days. Read the comics when I was a kid, but as an adult I think can count the times I’ve read one on one hand. Finding an article online is so much faster & cheaper. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151637-s02e09-unalive-and-well/#findComment-8568918
chitowngirl 19 hours ago Author Share 19 hours ago 11 hours ago, shapeshifter said: and also the crocheted scarf. I looked it up-it’s from Uncommon Goods (a store I love!), but it is no longer available 😭 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151637-s02e09-unalive-and-well/#findComment-8569590
SoMuchTV 19 hours ago Share 19 hours ago 12 hours ago, shapeshifter said: There was a lot to like in this episode, [snip] …and also the crocheted scarf. 8 hours ago, possibilities said: I really need to learn to crochet. I already knit, but Elsbeth makes me understand that really isn't enough. 15 minutes ago, chitowngirl said: I looked it up-it’s from Uncommon Goods (a store I love!), but it is no longer available 😭 I’m not planning to take it back up now, but from what I can recall of my crafty youth, crocheting was easier to pick up than knitting, and granny squares were kind of the basic starting point. So maybe Elsbeth’s scarf will encourage someone to take up crochet! 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151637-s02e09-unalive-and-well/#findComment-8569624
Yeah No 18 hours ago Share 18 hours ago 1 hour ago, chitowngirl said: I looked it up-it’s from Uncommon Goods (a store I love!), but it is no longer available 😭 I found some similar ones like This one and this one 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151637-s02e09-unalive-and-well/#findComment-8569668
snarktini 17 hours ago Share 17 hours ago 13 hours ago, shapeshifter said: Eric McCormack's and Carrie Preston's acting under the direction of Nancy Hower made this episode.… …and also the crocheted scarf. In a place where the uniform is white on white, Elsbeth adds a colorful scarf! Of course she does. (But...trapped in a hothouse...take it off! And I thought it read 104°, which is really hot but not pass out immediately hot even if also humid.) Also loved our guru calling her out on the omnipresent heavy tote bags. Why DOES she carry that burden, and why can't she set it down?! A very shrinky question. 🤔 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151637-s02e09-unalive-and-well/#findComment-8569688
possibilities 16 hours ago Share 16 hours ago 2 hours ago, SoMuchTV said: from what I can recall of my crafty youth, crocheting was easier to pick up than knitting I've been knitting since I was a kid, and it's harder for me to learn new things now, but I've been wating to crocet for a while, and this episode made me feel it even more urgently! I doubt it would be easy for me, but I might do it anyway. I liked that the retreat center, which I found annoying, wasn't ALL the people being annoying. The murdery leader was awful, but Elsbeth's companion wasn't. I like that they struck a kind of middle note with that. It bothers me that Kaya is so suspicious of Elsbeth. I can understand her having questions. It seems like whatever the scandal is, it was more than just zealous representation of an unsavory client, though I'm not clear 100% on what exactly happened. But for her to be AS suspicious as she is, and seem to be assuming the worst, and not have a default of: maybe she's being framed, or has some explanation? It bothers me. I also thought there must be some delted scenes, when Elsbeth said Kaya did such a great job this week. Unless I spaced out and missed it, Kaya and the rest of the team were hardly in the episode at all, and Elsbeth solved it mostly solo. I did like that the uptight guy who is monitoring them got a moment to shine and was the first to say they had to go and get Elsbeth out of the murderous retreat center ASAP. I have always appreciated his sincerity, but I'm liking him even more as a team member than as an antagonist. I think lately I am pretty much across the board liking to see people work together and am not really hungry for villainy. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151637-s02e09-unalive-and-well/#findComment-8569710
Mellowyellow 14 hours ago Share 14 hours ago 1 hour ago, possibilities said: I did like that the uptight guy who is monitoring them got a moment to shine and was the first to say they had to go and get Elsbeth out of the murderous retreat center ASAP. I have always appreciated his sincerity, but I'm liking him even more as a team member than as an antagonist. That was a highlight for me! I like the direction they are headed with his character. The Elsbeth and Kaya tension reminds me of the CW shows I used to watch where they’d manufacture something to break the main couple up. Given their friendship and experiences together it’s very OOC for Kaya to be all suspicious and tense suddenly. She was always a zen believer in Elsbeth no matter what peculiar shenanigans Elsbeth got up to. It’s like their friendship is the ship of this show so they must stuff around with it a bit. I did love Elsbeth telling her retreat partner that she was tricked and she found it hard to process because this never happens to her. I thought that was a great character growth moment and just very sincere. It’s a satisfying acknowledgement as Elsbeth has always been written as being 10 steps ahead of everyone. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151637-s02e09-unalive-and-well/#findComment-8569740
seacliffsal 5 hours ago Share 5 hours ago I thought that Eric McCormack was scarily evil (in the best way possible) and really enjoyed his character (as the murderer). Nice to see Elsbeth in a different environment and hope that her friendship with her yoga partner shows up in future episodes (they were a nice combo). Always enjoy this detective (actually like most of them) and laughed at the legumes bit (how his skin looked better after following evil retreat guy's recommendation). Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151637-s02e09-unalive-and-well/#findComment-8569774
chitowngirl 4 hours ago Author Share 4 hours ago While Evil Retreat Guy WAS evil, I’m glad he wasn’t a quack. He seemed to know his stuff and read everyone about their "stuff", like the legumes and Elsbeth’s totes. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151637-s02e09-unalive-and-well/#findComment-8569794
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