S14.E8: A Perfect Storm Out

[Cosmocrush]

2 hours ago, RealHousewife said:

I wonder if part of the ghosting thing is just a matter of Kyle not speaking to coworkers until she has to work with them again. I know with her sisters it's different, but I don't know if she would bother mending things with some of these women if she didn't have to. 

I think this makes sense.  We know Kyle has longtime real girlfriends outside of the HWs and I can't see any reason to mend things with Dorit other than this show.  Same with Sutton, etc. 

[Chatty Cake]

That spa day looked kind of fun.  Getting a neck and shoulder massage with food and drink sounds delightful. Of course they had to ruin it. First the stupid comments to the guys working then the ridiculous text conversation. 
If they wanted to do this they should have had Kyle divulge that PK told her all the nasty things Dorit said about Kyle when she was annoyed with her.

[hoodooznoodooz]

On 1/22/2025 at 3:57 PM, Mar said:

Why is it now considered acceptable for a woman to say to a man,”We’re in heat,” and it’s considered funny? Imagine a woman getting ready to provide a service to a group of men, and one of the men says that. 

Unpopular opinion: The way Jennifer delivered that line made me think she was mocking the women, including herself. It was not delivered in a lustful way. She was saying, “We’re in heat, and it’s kind of pathetic. Sorry!”

[Keywestclubkid]

17 hours ago, Talented Tenth said:

There were two Kyle takedown seasons: the one when Lisa Vanderpump told Brandi to take the tabloids with the Mauricio rumors and the one when the group was saying Kyle and Teddi were in couples therapy.  That season, Kyle flipped the attention to Denise and Brandi.

Ill give you a partial season with lisa and Brandi but she still had allies that shift the focus .. this is the first season she aint got a sidekick to try to shift the brunt of the attacks by ALL the woman (well except fence straddler Erika who isn't taking a side at all) including the newbies or to have something else to shift the attention to

 

this is def her take down season

Edited Friday at 03:06 PM by Keywestclubkid

[islandgal140]

On 1/22/2025 at 1:04 PM, RealHousewife said:

Other than the rosacea, Erika really does have very beautiful skin though. Makeup can only do so much. I don’t see any wrinkles, sagging, pores, etc. I think she has the prettiest skin of them all actually. Covering up some redness is not a big deal. 

I do wonder if she had a lower face lift. I vividly remember the reunion post Tom's fraud exposure and she was a bit jowly. Surprisingly so to me.

I do think she has decent skin, but yeah those makeup artists are indeed artists. They give her face structure and a very natural lit from within glow and finish that you wouldn't think came from products. 

[RealHousewife]

29 minutes ago, islandgal140 said:

I do wonder if she had a lower face lift. I vividly remember the reunion post Tom's fraud exposure and she was a bit jowly. Surprisingly so to me.

I do think she has decent skin, but yeah those makeup artists are indeed artists. They give her face structure and a very natural lit from within glow and finish that you wouldn't think came from products. 

I wouldn’t be surprised if she had more work done. Erika is very honest that she’s not against plastic surgery. 

Erika does have great makeup artists, but all the women have access to great makeup. She’s one of the few housewives in the franchise that has the look of beautiful texture. You can tell she takes great care of her skin imo. 

[Natalie68]

1 hour ago, islandgal140 said:

I do wonder if she had a lower face lift. I vividly remember the reunion post Tom's fraud exposure and she was a bit jowly. Surprisingly so to me.

I do think she has decent skin, but yeah those makeup artists are indeed artists. They give her face structure and a very natural lit from within glow and finish that you wouldn't think came from products. 

I would bet yes. These women aren't wonder specimens who aren't aging (they aren't in the movie SHE).  I am curious if they ever think how all this facial work will look in 20 years. I think they are going to look very odd.  Maybe they should all see therapists to figure out why they are so freaked about aging.  In Kyles case, it is also shitty that she has changed her face so drastically.  Does that affect how the kids feel about THEIR faces?  Similar to Jennifer Aydin's face.  NO WHERE near what she was born with and I think her kids look like her old face.

[Pi237]

The ‘in heat’ comment was in bad taste, at the very least. And embarrassing. Not all middle aged+ women are super horny cougars. Stop it! 
 

Having said that- Wow, those were some damn Fine-looking men. I’d be blushing like crazy having them massage me. Boz hooked them up Noice. Of course, I would keep those thoughts to myself until the men weren’t in earshot. I’m a classy cougar 🤣

[Jel]

I would not be surprised to see Lisa Vanderpump this season. I could see a restaurant scene with Dorit walking in, big mystery about who she is meeting, and  lo and behold it turns out to be Lisa. 

Just thinking that Lisa's got a new show to promote, and Kyle's finally getting a bad edit.

So maybe, a definite maybe to that.

But then I remember that this is Kyle we are dealing with and she master manipulates her way out of everything, and she's played every single one of them, probably including the production team, and they don't even realize it. At times Sutton seems like she's getting it, but then then Kyle re-ups her hex. 

[Jel]

On 1/22/2025 at 2:25 PM, Cosmocrush said:

I don't disagree but why this issue?  I find all their fuss over a dumbass text that Kyle herself volunteered boring as hell.  No one thinks Kyle is up to something with PK.  Dorit needs spend less time looking for something to fight with Kyle about a start talking to her children about why Dad and his stuff have disappeared from their home. 

But what kind of shitty friend/co-worker texts with your husband, about you? 

Kyle continues to suck.

Edited Friday at 08:37 PM by Jel

[hoodooznoodooz]

So it SOUNDED as if Kyle was crying. But we didn’t see any tears.

[ZettaK]

7 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

So it SOUNDED as if Kyle was crying. But we didn’t see any tears.

But remember, the botox! (It dries your eyes).

Edited Saturday at 01:45 PM by ZettaK

[amarante]

This endless kerfuffle about the text is as boring and stupid as Lucy Lucy dog idiocy.

Kyle is loathsome but the text is completely innocuous. It wasn't picking sides or asking PK to spill dirt or tell him she would be his "spy". 

Much ado about completely nothing - and that doesn't exclude Boz either who is acting as if this innocuous text is some kind of smoking gun.

On a completely trivial note - the idiocy of giving a 16 year old a new expensive car. My friend's kids went to one of the exclusive private schools in Los Angeles and almost every kid got an expensive new car at 16 and they all had accidents. My friend who could afford a Porsche gave her girls the used Lexus boring sedans and when they had their inevitable accidents it was no big deal. It also sometimes ends in tragedy because fast cars - especially large SUV's can be more difficult to maneuver in terms of safety than boring sedans. 

Edited Saturday at 01:55 PM by amarante

[ZettaK]

On 1/23/2025 at 11:47 AM, Rorysmom said:

Yep. Kyle feels closer to PK because of Mauricio. Kyle was telling the truth when she said she and Dorit weren't close, close. But she was also telling the truth when she said she loves Dorit and the family. Kyle just prioritizes PK. Dorit knows that, and that's why she shared PK's behavior and her desire to know how deep their communication goes. Instead of acting outraged, all she had to do was share the text. Dassit. Let's see how this unfolds.

Kyle can love Dorit's family (her kids), but not Dorit.

ETA: it's not unusual, or abnormal.

Edited Yest. at 04:12 AM by ZettaK

[amarante]

Brian Moylan does really excellent recaps on vulture.com

His book on the housewives' franchises is also interesting for some of the inside operations.

As he writes this "fight" is a proxy fight for positioning on the show - it isn't about the text per se - it is about a power struggle which translates into "money" to some extent as well as cast position.

Kyle has been a power for many years and the women are trying to take over her alpha dog position to ensure their hierarchy in the cast.

FWIW I really am not a "fan" of any them as between Kyle and Dorit I couldn't care less who has power. There are some like Garcelle and Sutton who are less obviously predatory in terms of their machinations. Boz is no innocent as she is stirring the pot. And I am completely not buying the Erika redemption arc. 

[IntrovertRed]

8 hours ago, amarante said:

On a completely trivial note - the idiocy of giving a 16 year old a new expensive car. My friend's kids went to one of the exclusive private schools in Los Angeles and almost every kid got an expensive new car at 16 and they all had accidents. My friend who could afford a Porsche gave her girls the used Lexus boring sedans and when they had their inevitable accidents it was no big deal. It also sometimes ends in tragedy because fast cars - especially large SUV's can be more difficult to maneuver in terms of safety than boring sedans. 

It happens around me too, and I'm in a boring middle class suburb. Many of my kid's friends got brand new cars. Even if I COULD afford to do that, I wouldn't do that.  One of my children had an accident in a cheap Honda Civic a day after getting a license that we had just bought a week or so prior (less than 5k). Thankfully, all occupants were fine, but car was totaled and child didn't get another car for over a year until he/she was able to save again and contribute again towards another used car and get more experience (driving my car, sigh).  Honestly though, most children I know get into accidents shortly after getting their license (myself included).

I feel like there's something going on that we aren't privy to with Kyle and Dorit. I've heard rumors on podcasts that Dorit and PK are faking the divorce, and Kyle isn't sure why Dorit is coming for her so strongly, which is why she keeps saying you're not the Dorit I know (or whatever she said).

I honestly wonder if Dorit would have made such an effort getting to know Boz if she was still chummy with Kyle. Maybe?  Hard to say, but she's certainly got a strong ally in Boz, who isn't afraid to stand up to Kyle. It's certainly delicious to see Kyle squirming without her foxforce five (is that what it's called?) to protect her.

So Erika is living in a pool house that she remodels and then buys a house less than a year later?  

Edited Saturday at 10:29 PM by IntrovertRed

[ZettaK]

5 hours ago, IntrovertRed said:

It happens around me too, and I'm in a boring middle class suburb. Many of my kid's friends got brand new cars. Even if I COULD afford to do that, I wouldn't do that.  One of my children had an accident in a cheap Honda Civic a day after getting a license that we had just bought a week or so prior (less than 5k). Thankfully, all occupants were fine, but car was totaled and child didn't get another car for over a year until he/she was able to save again and contribute again towards another used car and get more experience (driving my car, sigh).  Honestly though, most children I know get into accidents shortly after getting their license (myself included).

I feel like there's something going on that we aren't privy to with Kyle and Dorit. I've heard rumors on podcasts that Dorit and PK are faking the divorce, and Kyle isn't sure why Dorit is coming for her so strongly, which is why she keeps saying you're not the Dorit I know (or whatever she said).

I honestly wonder if Dorit would have made such an effort getting to know Boz if she was still chummy with Kyle. Maybe?  Hard to say, but she's certainly got a strong ally in Boz, who isn't afraid to stand up to Kyle. It's certainly delicious to see Kyle squirming without her foxforce five (is that what it's called?) to protect her.

So Erika is living in a pool house that she remodels and then buys a house less than a year later?  

I'm not sure Dorit would try with Boz so much, but she doesn't have any friends in the group (Erika who is suddenly her friend is not really her friend), and she needs allies to pursue her storyline against Kyle. 

My sister crashed her first brand new car a year after she got her license. 

Erika remodeled the rental house as a storyline. What else does she have?

[Sweet-tea]

On 1/21/2025 at 7:57 PM, Pi237 said:

Erika's not going not alienate Kyle. She needs this show. And there's no way Kyle's leaving it.

Yep. I think Boz was wrong. Erika isn't scared of Kyle. Erika is career/money-motivated. She knows Kyle has a lot of pull. Maybe she's afraid of losing her paycheck. 

On 1/21/2025 at 7:42 PM, Keywestclubkid said:

When they storm off it’s the tell .. Tamra from OC does the same thing .. you’ll never see my face again and runs away .. at this point it’s kinda funny it’s so redundant 

Shannon from the OC is also a solid member of the storming off team. 

On 1/21/2025 at 7:43 PM, Pi237 said:

"The common denominator is you [Dorit]"

Dorit- "Hey!" 😂

I was surprised by Boz's boldness but good of her!

On 1/21/2025 at 8:44 PM, Rorysmom said:

Kyle, just because PK has never shown you The Monster, doesn't mean it doesn't exist! That's not girl's girl thinking or behavior.

Yes things can be totally different when a couple is alone vs. around others. I have seen PK be dismissive to Dorit. I don't know if I'd call it monster behavior, but who knows. She can be insufferable too though. It does look like Kyle is firmly on PK's side. 

On 1/21/2025 at 8:19 PM, dbell1 said:

Why is it Kyle “cries” and her eyes are dry and clear? The sunglasses were a nice cover for the lack of tears.

I wonder if this affected her acting career. Apparently she can't cry on cue. 

On 1/21/2025 at 9:24 PM, Marley said:

Kyle is wrong for saying I won't repeat anything it's obvious it's about Dorit. Erika is being a dumb bitch about.

Erika knows what side her bread is buttered on. 

Edited 15 hours ago by Sweet-tea
Autocorrect keeps changing Boz to Bob and Dorit to Doris

[Sweet-tea]

On 1/21/2025 at 9:07 PM, JenE4 said:

Somehow you’ve been fine with calling other people out for 14 seasons. But asking you about a text that you told them about is suddenly a bridge too far. I’m not about to list the lowlights of what she put her sisters, friends, and frienimies through in the name of being “open and honest” but feel free to create your own Bravo flashback reel In your minds.

Classic narcissistic ploy. Overeact to deflect from the issue being discussed (which makes the narc look bad), so instead it becomes about calming/coddling the narc. 

On 1/24/2025 at 2:36 PM, Jel said:

But what kind of shitty friend/co-worker texts with your husband, about you? 

Kyle continues to suck.

Agree. It isn't that Kyle is fooling around with PK. No one thinks that. It's that she is being disloyal to her friend (supposedly) Dorit by discussing things with Dorit's husband while they are separated... and those topics likely include Dorit. The way Kyle worded the text "I am here for you... I will never share anything you've shared with me" opens a door with PK that should be closed. 

The other thing Kyle seems to be skipping over is she would be furious if Dorit did the same thing with Mauricio. Forehead vein popping furious. 

[snarts]

It's likely that not seeing an issue with Kyle's text to PK means you've never gone through a divorce where the person you loved the most is now suddenly acting like your sworn enemy. Anyone who's been in or close to a situation like that would better understand how hurtful it would be to have a friend (or family member) not only side with your ex, but happily encourage them to confide in you about them.

Kyle is stupid but in this case she's just playing dumb. She's mad at Dorit & using this situation to punish her. 

Edited Yest. at 02:44 PM by snarts

[Cosmocrush]

1 hour ago, snarts said:

It's likely that not seeing an issue with Kyle's text to PK means you've never gone through a divorce where the person you loved the most is now suddenly acting like your sworn enemy.

I think this certainly describes Kyle.  

[amarante]

19 hours ago, IntrovertRed said:

 

So Erika is living in a pool house that she remodels and then buys a house less than a year later?  

Erika hasn't bought a house yet as she is still living in the rental she moved into when she moved out of Pasadena home

She doesn't live in the pool house. Based on my knowledge of homes in this neighborhood that was originally a tiny garage and they turned it into a "pool" house when they added a pool. 

She isn't remodeling anything. She struck a deal with Bullard for some free furniture in exchange for featuring him on the show as a "celebrity" designer. 

In real life he wouldn't be taking on this kind of job because he wouldn't be making any money on it. He does multi-million dollar projects and doesn't "advise" people on what paint to use or sofa to buy. 

[Cosmocrush]

39 minutes ago, amarante said:

She doesn't live in the pool house. Based on my knowledge of homes in this neighborhood that was originally a tiny garage and they turned it into a "pool" house when they added a pool. 

That's worse, lol!   Thanks for the info @amarante. 

The reason I've always referred to it as a pool house (besides the size in that neighborhood) is it backs right up to the pool but if the structure was there prior to the pool the strange placement makes more sense.  

 

[amarante]

2 hours ago, Cosmocrush said:

That's worse, lol!   Thanks for the info @amarante. 

The reason I've always referred to it as a pool house (besides the size in that neighborhood) is it backs right up to the pool but if the structure was there prior to the pool the strange placement makes more sense.  

 

My understanding is that a pool house is a separate structure that is generally on the side away from the "house" - e.g. on the other side of the pool. 

It theoretically would enable people to avoid users of the pool coming into the main house for the bathroom and shower. 

Her structure is essentially a three sided shed that you can sit on which is more equivalent to having a covered porch although not quite the same.

However all of the work Bullard was "donating" was superficial - i.e. furniture, paint and wallpaper and I assume was free in exchange for the promotional exposure. 

My next door neighbor used him for her remodel and it must have cost millions. It was Morrocan inspired which is very typical of his stuff if you google but it was a fantastic place when he was finished. Not at all cookie cutter with "gray" bathrooms but fantastic Moorish tiles

[Pattycake2]

It was very interesting and slightly odd to see Boz on WWHL.  Dorit was in the audience acting bitter as usual as well as wearing truly heinous long gloves.  Is there something wrong with her hands?  Boz and Dorit are still besties.  The really odd things were Boz’s answers to a bunch of Andy’s questions.  Boz said best at business was Dorit.  Best dressed was Jennifer and biggest ego was Sutton.  It was reverso world.  So, Boz and Dorit are now a team.  Kyle and Erika are a team and Sutton and Garcelle are a team. Jennifer is Sutton’s friend, but she doesn’t really get into the fray.  I’d be very surprised if Dorit is let go.

[Pi237]

11 hours ago, Sweet-tea said:

Yep. I think Bob as wrong. 

Just loving that your autocorrect (I assume) is changing Boz to Bob lmao 

[Sweet-tea]

36 minutes ago, Pi237 said:

Just loving that your autocorrect (I assume) is changing Boz to Bob lmao 

Ha! It also keeps changing Dorit to Doris. 

Regarding Erika's "fear" or intimidation about Kyle (not wanting to tick Kyle off due to her power). Isn't Kyle the only OG of the entire HW franchise? The only other one I can think of who comes close is Teresa Guidice, but she missed a season when she was in prison. So Kyle is the only one who has been on from the beginning with no interruption. 

[ZettaK]

1 hour ago, Pattycake2 said:

It was very interesting and slightly odd to see Boz on WWHL.  Dorit was in the audience acting bitter as usual as well as wearing truly heinous long gloves.  Is there something wrong with her hands?  Boz and Dorit are still besties.  The really odd things were Boz’s answers to a bunch of Andy’s questions.  Boz said best at business was Dorit.  Best dressed was Jennifer and biggest ego was Sutton.  It was reverso world.  So, Boz and Dorit are now a team.  Kyle and Erika are a team and Sutton and Garcelle are a team. Jennifer is Sutton’s friend, but she doesn’t really get into the fray.  I’d be very surprised if Dorit is let go.

I watched, as well. Dorit tried hard this season, and it's still early. I'm sure we will see more. Boz is her only ally, and I guess they had to go together. 

[Salacious Kitty]

Teresa didn't miss a season. They stopped production and gave us the Teresa Checks In miniseries. 

Of course, NJ is now on pause, so her reign as an OG may be at an end. 

[ZettaK]

5 hours ago, Sweet-tea said:

Ha! It also keeps changing Dorit to Doris. 

Regarding Erika's "fear" or intimidation about Kyle (not wanting to tick Kyle off due to her power). Isn't Kyle the only OG of the entire HW franchise? The only other one I can think of who comes close is Teresa Guidice, but she missed a season when she was in prison. So Kyle is the only one who has been on from the beginning with no interruption. 

Erika is not intimidated by anybody. She attacked Eileen, and Sutton viciously. But she is not stupid either. 

Some of the women on the Potomac HWs are OGs (Gizelle, Karen, Ashley).

Edited 10 hours ago by ZettaK

[emma675]

I finally got around to watching this episode and I think I've lost the plot between Kyle and Dorit. I honestly can't remember what they are fighting over or what started all of it. Just so much screaming and flailing and fake tears.

I was a little sad over seeing Boz's beautiful backyard, knowing it's now ashes. I hope she and her daughter are doing okay, I can't imagine losing almost everything in a fire. I'm sure they lost precious mementos from Boz's deceased husband, stuff you can't replace. 

[Cosmocrush]

2 hours ago, emma675 said:

I finally got around to watching this episode and I think I've lost the plot between Kyle and Dorit. I honestly can't remember what they are fighting over or what started all of it. Just so much screaming and flailing and fake tears.

I was a little sad over seeing Boz's beautiful backyard, knowing it's now ashes. I hope she and her daughter are doing okay, I can't imagine losing almost everything in a fire. I'm sure they lost precious mementos from Boz's deceased husband, stuff you can't replace. 

That house in BH is still standing.  The house she lost was her Malibu beach house.   Still terrible but she still has her house in Beverly Hills where they filmed the spa party.  

The thing with Dorit and Kyle is basically Dorit looking for something to fight with Kyle over and thus keep the spotlight on herself.  First it was that Kyle said she and Dorit weren't that close which pissed Dorito off.  Then Kyle told someone, I forget who, that PK is still in touch with her via texts, mostly memes and jokes.  Dorito blew a gasket and Kyle showed a text she sent to PK when the news of the divorce broke, telling him she would never disclose anything he had (previously) told her and would always respond to his memes with a laughing emoji.  Everyone went crazy over that, especially Dorito who frankly has much bigger things to be worried about but apparently this will keep her job being a HW until we all get bored to death over it, which I already am. 

[ZettaK]

4 hours ago, emma675 said:

I was a little sad over seeing Boz's beautiful backyard, knowing it's now ashes. I hope she and her daughter are doing okay, I can't imagine losing almost everything in a fire. I'm sure they lost precious mementos from Boz's deceased husband, stuff you can't replace. 

This is not Boz’s Malibu house. The one on the show is her Hancock Park, Los Angeles house.

[ZettaK]

It's all manufactured drama. Poor Dorit needs her job desperately, especially now that PK is divorcing her. There were rumors she would be eliminated as a HW. She didn't care about the texts until the other women made a point about them. She only wanted to find possible information about PK from Kyle, if there was any. Most of her commentary is from confessionals later on, based on questions the producers asked (what a surprise). 

Dorit made sarcastic comments about Kyle's dress on her face at the spa event for no reason but to bother her (a dress from 2004). Were the other women perfectly dressed? No. 

Also, Garcelle and Sutton found their chance to solidify their place on the show by doing the same with the comment about Mauricio's "cheating". They have no storylines either. Kyle never said that Mauricio cheated. She only said that women sent him DMs, and he never answered them. Kyle asked Sutton about this later on the Bravo RH BH aftershow, and Sutton answered that she didn't know why she said this. 'I don't know why I said that. I got so confused.' And she apologized. 

https://people.com/rhobh-kyle-richards-reveals-off-camera-conversation-with-sutton-stracke-over-mauricio-umansky-cheating-rumors-8775409

Edited 9 hours ago by ZettaK

[ZettaK]

Dorit achieved her goal. She is in demand. She has a Jeep Wagoneer S electric SUV commercial with the head realtor from SOLD on SLC which was shown during a rerun of the latest episode right now.

Edited 9 hours ago by ZettaK

[JenE4]

5 hours ago, ZettaK said:

Dorit made sarcastic comments about Kyle's dress on her face at the spa event for no reason but to bother her (a dress from 2004). Were the other women perfectly dressed? No. 

Kyle made the drastic mistake of not swanning in and repeatedly announcing, “It’s vintage!” like Dorit has been doing all season long with her old/used resale items, such as at the Diamonds and Denim party and at the Viper room and anywhere else she has been wearing Poshmark purchases. The proclamation of “It’s vintage!” is apparently the magic words to turn any used clothing from outdated to in fashion once again. 

[hoodooznoodooz]

I am still Team Dorit. 
 

The way Kyle snarled at Dorit at that reunion, and then held a grudge long after, when Dorit was only attempting to mediate the conflict with Kathy, tells me a lot about Kyle Richards.

[RealHousewife]

3 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

I am still Team Dorit. 
 

The way Kyle snarled at Dorit at that reunion, and then held a grudge long after, when Dorit was only attempting to mediate the conflict with Kathy, tells me a lot about Kyle Richards.

Yeah, and Kyle has always been the one looking for a reason to be angry with, scream at, and belittle Dorit. Most recently-You joked about me not being your favorite sister after I spilled a drink on you! You didn't jump in to defend Teddi after I already did!

I am sure Dorit is trying hard to keep her job, but she has absolutely valid reasons to have issues with Kyle. She was kind of a doormat with Kyle for years. 

Sutton and Garcelle may not have anything juicy going on in their own lives right now, but I don't expect the whole cast too. This isn't a group full of 20-somethings or 30-somethings like Vanderpump Rules. 

Dorit is probably the only returning cast member with a fresh storyline. Kyle having issues with Mauricio and possibly being into women are both from last year. Erika doesn't really have anything new going on either. Things have just settled somewhat with the Tom scandal.