S14.E5: High Horses and Low Blows

[Chatty Cake]

Boz hasn’t added anything to the group. She may as well be Crystal. 

The British use the c word a lot more than Americans do. At least on tv. Back when Dorit joined the show, she pretended to be British with an accent. Now that she’s an American she probably shouldn’t say it. 

[ladle1]

20 hours ago, CharlizeCat said:

20 hours ago, ladle1 said:

I was hoping to like Boz, but she’s backing the wrong screeching harpy. 

True. But Boz landed right in it. She was at the wrong place at the wrong time at Sutton's Surrealist party. I think Boz was being polite and trying to establish rapport with one of her new friends co-workers without having the benefit of knowing anything about Dorit or her current situation, which was making her extra needy, clingy, and more verbose than usual. Boz probably thought they were bonding and Dorit was like "Yeah! A new ear to bend." She has been Dorit's captive audience every since.

I just want to be clear that I merely quoted the above (from dbell1) -- I did not post it. 

I am firmly on the team, "All of them are the wrong screaming harpies to back."

[Polliwollidoodle]

3 hours ago, Chatty Cake said:

 Back when Dorit joined the show, she pretended to be British with an accent. Now that she’s an American she probably shouldn’t say it. 

Good one! I enjoyed this. thank you

[bosawks]

I really think production needs to do an intervention and sit them down individually and then collectively to explain that not one of them is interesting enough to carry this show alone and please get your shit together!  

[Keywestclubkid]

Kyle telling Garcelle ON CAMERA about the texting with P.K kinda absolves Garcelle of any wrong doing ..

there wasn't a new "bond" of trust broken .. One it was said while cameras were rolling loud and clear and B, Kyle saw no issues with continuing with the "friendship" with P.K and even said so to Dorit, so Garcelle talking about it with Sutton or any of the girls in this circle wasn't seen as a issue in the first place..it was stated like fact

 

anyone would think that's ODD that you are having these friendly chats and text with someone that is separating from a friend/coworker esp when you have gone on and on and on about how you arnt close with those people  .. its not normal

Edited December 24, 2024 by Keywestclubkid

[RealHousewife]

34 minutes ago, Keywestclubkid said:

Kyle telling Garcelle ON CAMERA about the texting with P.K kinda absolves Garcelle of any wrong doing ..

there wasn't a new "bond" of trust broken .. One it was said while cameras were rolling loud and clear and B, Kyle saw no issues with continuing with the "friendship" with P.K and even said so to Dorit, so Garcelle talking about it with Sutton or any of the girls in this circle wasn't seen as a issue in the first place..it was stated like fact

 

anyone would think that's ODD that you are having these friendly chats and text with someone that is separating from a friend/coworker esp when you have gone on and on and on about how you arnt close with those people  .. its not normal

On WWC, the guys thought Kyle was deliberately trying to imply that PK was after her just because there were rumors about Mauricio and Dorit. 

I agree that due to everything going on, the chatting is now weird. Lisa Vanderpump being PK's friend was like okay, PK has a female friend who's a happily married woman, a little older than and looks nothing like Dorit. That might still make some women uncomfortable, but could you imagine PK texting beautiful blonde Erika after he once said he didn't mind the view between her legs? I say tread softly with messaging your wife's current and ex-friends, even if there are zero motives. Why risk making anyone uncomfortable? Vent to your buddies if you must.

[snarts]

On 12/17/2024 at 11:46 PM, dbell1 said:

I was hoping to like Boz, but she’s backing the wrong screeching harpy. 

Boz didn't come in claiming to know any of the current cast well. So maybe, just maybe, she formed her own impressions based on how she was welcomed/received?

I've never been a Dorit fan. I do like Sutton but she can be awkward, elitist & yes, often volatile. Erika is a cold, ruthless bitch. Garcelle's often away filming and finally, Kyle is indeed vile.

So, Boz got to know Dorit & apparently bonded with her the best. Good on her, applaud her simply for forming her her own opinions & not immediately falling victim to groupthink or worrying about viewer reaction.

[ZettaK]

On 12/24/2024 at 9:17 AM, Keywestclubkid said:

Kyle telling Garcelle ON CAMERA about the texting with P.K kinda absolves Garcelle of any wrong doing ..

there wasn't a new "bond" of trust broken .. One it was said while cameras were rolling loud and clear and B, Kyle saw no issues with continuing with the "friendship" with P.K and even said so to Dorit, so Garcelle talking about it with Sutton or any of the girls in this circle wasn't seen as a issue in the first place..it was stated like fact

 

anyone would think that's ODD that you are having these friendly chats and text with someone that is separating from a friend/coworker esp when you have gone on and on and on about how you arnt close with those people  .. its not normal

Kyle said on Watch What Happens Live that PK sends jokes mostly, and it was never any serious chats.

[Keywestclubkid]

34 minutes ago, ZettaK said:

Kyle said on Watch What Happens Live that PK sends jokes mostly, and it was never any serious chats.

Which brings up if it was really that insignificant why bring it up at all? 
 

what was Kyle’s endgame with that knowledge being brought up on camera by herself to another castmate other then to get a dig in somehow 

[princelina]

13 minutes ago, Keywestclubkid said:

what was Kyle’s endgame with that knowledge being brought up on camera by herself to another castmate other then to get a dig in somehow 

Camera time - same as Garcelle's! 😄

[Keywestclubkid]

21 minutes ago, princelina said:

Camera time - same as Garcelle's! 😄

But they could have spoke about anything it’s calculated on the level of being producer driven.. like casually being up this topic here 

[snarts]

2 hours ago, Keywestclubkid said:

what was Kyle’s endgame with that knowledge being brought up on camera by herself to another castmate other then to get a dig in somehow 

She knew if would get back to Dorit & hurt her. Seriously, imagine her head exploding if Dorit & Mauricio were text pals?

Kyle's MO is to appear to resolve an issue, saying let's move on, but she continues to say/do things to hurt the other person. She then encourages others (Camille, Teddi, etc.) to share their issues with said person so she can pretend her hands are clean & claim "see, everyone has issues with X, not just me"

In her pea brain, PK texting her was somehow affirmation that she's good/Dorit is bad. 

If she weren't so annoying it would actually be sad. Kyle is so insecure, she'll never be happy or content. The season 1 fortune teller was actually right.

 

[nicole21290]

46 minutes ago, snarts said:

She knew if would get back to Dorit & hurt her. Seriously, imagine her head exploding if Dorit & Mauricio were text pals?

Kyle's MO is to appear to resolve an issue, saying let's move on, but she continues to say/do things to hurt the other person. She then encourages others (Camille, Teddi, etc.) to share their issues with said person so she can pretend her hands are clean & claim "see, everyone has issues with X, not just me"

In her pea brain, PK texting her was somehow affirmation that she's good/Dorit is bad. 

If she weren't so annoying it would actually be sad. Kyle is so insecure, she'll never be happy or content. The season 1 fortune teller was actually right.

People keep saying this, but she says in the preview for next episode that she would EXPECT people to continue texting Mauricio through and after their separation. 

[Pi237]

20 minutes ago, nicole21290 said:

People keep saying this, but she says in the preview for next episode that she would EXPECT people to continue texting Mauricio through and after their separation. 

No, sorry, have to laugh at her with this. No Way would she be cool with Dorit texting and laughing at memes with Mo that didn't include her. Especially if Dorit made a point to mention it to the other housewives and have it revealed on camera. She'd be livid.  She can't even take a joke without holding a grudge. I honestly thought her anger at Dorit had to be Mo related since her reasons given are so petty and ridiculous. So, I'm surprised she's the one over stepping (in my opinion) with PK.

[princelina]

5 hours ago, Keywestclubkid said:

But they could have spoke about anything it’s calculated on the level of being producer driven.. like casually being up this topic here 

Either way - camera time!

[goofygirl]

On 12/19/2024 at 4:10 PM, Leia1021 said:

Well, she is 5 houses from the water. If you walk out her front door, the ocean is a two-minute walk. I grew up here and came back to retire. All the houses are built on sand and are officially part of a liquefaction zone. (Not good in an earthquake). 

We're not a part of Oxnard (which is 5 miles inland), or any other city, but are an unincorporated area of the county. We have our own water district, and all other services (fire, law enforcement) are provided by the county. My father always called us the county's bastard stepchildren since we're geographically set apart from everyone and only have one road that comes onto the beach. The road is a mile long.  We're surrounded by water on three sides and by a naval base on the inland side. We're toast if there's ever a tsunami. LOL

When the beach was sub-divided in 1925, Oxnard was the closest post office (5.5 miles inland), so all mail came there and why many people still use that name. For many years, we've been an official "census-designated place (CDP)" called Channel Islands Beach. Many people use that as their mailing address, although some people never bothered to update their accounts/address with the change.

 

 

Thank you!!  So great to learn about that beautiful part of Callifornia!!

[kassa]

On 12/18/2024 at 2:47 PM, amarante said:

Her ex - Sam Simon was super wealthy as he also has a Foundation which funds animal rescues and I think homeless stuff. 

But not toothless?

On 12/18/2024 at 7:23 PM, ww92 said:

Does anyone else think that having a tattoo artist at a party is weird? Who would get a tattoo on the spur of the moment at a party?

It appears to be a trend, since they even did it at an engagement party on Sister Wives!

On 12/19/2024 at 12:14 AM, tvfanatic13 said:

Princelina- I agree with your last statement. But then I thought that it will be quite some time before we get a RH show after the shows that are running now. They will all end soon and there is nothing being filmed. So I will lap up even this to feed my Bravo soul!

I hear rumors that they might be shooting in Rhode Island now.

The SMEG stuff is not just cool - the enamel is really stunningly beautiful. Saw it at a home show once and it wasn't just the option of pastels/style that grabbed me - it just looks luscious!

I don't feel bad for Boz - she lucked out that in her first season she gets tons of airtime just by being an ear for Dorit without accidentally falling into a feud with other castmates (yet). She gets to seem reasonable and kind while slowly building relationships with the others without having to force a storyline by picking a fight with them just to earn a return invitation. 

[Sweet-tea]

On 12/17/2024 at 11:15 PM, dmeets said:

Ladies and Gentlemen, presenting… the real Dorit Kemsley. The woman who supports other women by throwing out the C word like it’s “the.”

Boz’s role this season is to be Dorit’s ride or die since Erika insists on playing both sides. Disappointing.

I thought Dorit was angry this season, but apparently she’s been angry for years. Interesting how in that clip “full blown alcoholic” PK was telling a very drunk Dorit to pipe down. 

On 12/17/2024 at 10:20 PM, Shannah Banana said:

I didn't really appreciate her piping up in the Sutton/Dorit throw down either.  I wasn't mad at what Sutton said, since it was the truth.  Dorit is mad at the whole world right now, and it's not Sutton's fault that PK is moving on.  Not everyone is going to handle Dorit with kid (CHANEL) gloves while she throws her two year old tantrums. 

Yep. 

On 12/17/2024 at 7:53 PM, SweetieDarling said:

Erica's therapist couldn't be bothered to shower or wash her hair before appearing on camera?

Well at least she called Erica on her behavior and how it contributed to her problems. I’ll give her that, lank hair aside. 

I’m trying to figure out what is different about Kyle’s face. Looks like a facelift with a possible chin implant. Her jawline looks different, more square than usual. 

On 12/18/2024 at 1:01 AM, ZettaK said:

That's what we are saying since the first episode aired. Dorit is angry that PK asked for the separation, and she is taking it out on others.

Agree And Kyle is angry or at least hurt that Mo seems to have moved on so easily. 

Edited January 1 by Sweet-tea

[Sweet-tea]

On 12/18/2024 at 3:02 PM, Feline Goddess said:

PK texts her. Not Texas. 

 

 

It did sound like Texas LOL.

On 12/18/2024 at 9:40 AM, Cosmocrush said:

Erika's marriage was never more than a business arrangement on her end and she  left her criminal husband the minute shit hit the fan and the money dried up. 

Where's my pizza party indeed.  Good grief. 

I guess Erica’s marriage vows didn’t include “for richer or poorer, in sickness and in health…” at a minimum. 

[hoodooznoodooz]

1 minute ago, Sweet-tea said:

It did sound like Texas. LOL.

I have only heard characters on Bravo mispronounce “texts.” I think Dorinda/RHoNY says “Texas,” too. Someone on reddit posted that Teresa and LeeAnne also say “Texas.”

[Sweet-tea]

On 12/24/2024 at 10:17 AM, Keywestclubkid said:

Kyle telling Garcelle ON CAMERA about the texting with P.K kinda absolves Garcelle of any wrong doing ..

there wasn't a new "bond" of trust broken .. One it was said while cameras were rolling loud and clear and B, Kyle saw no issues with continuing with the "friendship" with P.K and even said so to Dorit, so Garcelle talking about it with Sutton or any of the girls in this circle wasn't seen as a issue in the first place..it was stated like fact

 

anyone would think that's ODD that you are having these friendly chats and text with someone that is separating from a friend/coworker esp when you have gone on and on and on about how you arnt close with those people  .. its not normal

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No, sorry, have to laugh at her with this. No Way would she be cool with Dorit texting and laughing at memes with Mo that didn't include her. Especially if Dorit made a point to mention it to the other housewives and have it revealed on camera. She'd be livid.  She can't even take a joke without holding a grudge. I honestly thought her anger at Dorit had to be Mo related since her reasons given are so petty and ridiculous. So, I'm surprised she's the one over stepping (in my opinion) with PK.

Absolutely, Kyle would freak. And I’m still wondering if something happened—even just a flirtation—happened between Mo and Dorit. The body language between them was telling. 

I agree with Garcelle. I’ve been divorced. If my friend was texting with my husband while we were separated, I’d be upset. 

Edited January 1 by Sweet-tea

[hoodooznoodooz]

3 hours ago, Sweet-tea said:

Absolutely, Kyle would freak. And I’m still wondering if something happened—even just a flirtation—happened between Mo and Dorit. The body language between them was telling. 

I agree with Garcelle. I’ve been divorced. If my friend was texting with my husband while we were separated, I’d be upset. 

Honestly! Especially because Kyle thinks PK is so funny. If a guy can make me laugh, I am putty in his hands.

[ZettaK]

4 hours ago, Sweet-tea said:

I thought Dorit was angry this season, but apparently she’s been angry for years. Interesting how in that clip “full blown alcoholic” PK was telling a very drunk Dorit to pipe down. 

Yep. 

Well at least she called Erica on her behavior and how it contributed to her problems. I’ll give her that, lank hair aside. 

I’m trying to figure out what is different about Kyle’s face. Looks like a facelift with a possible chin implant. Her jawline looks different, more square than usual. 

Agree And Kyle is angry or at least hurt that Mo seems to have moved on so easily. 

Dorit is also angry because PK asked for a separation and moved on immediately, but Kyle asked for a separation and Mauricio didn't even appear kissing a woman, at least in public (at the Mykonos airport) more than a year after the separation announcement- he was waiting for Kyle to decide what she wanted to do. 

[ZettaK]

4 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

I have only heard characters on Bravo mispronounce “texts.” I think Dorinda/RHoNY says “Texas,” too. Someone on reddit posted that Teresa and LeeAnne also say “Texas.”

They seem not to know the past tense of the verb text either (texted). Teresa Guidice is one who could mispronounce it. Among many other words. 

4 hours ago, Sweet-tea said:

Absolutely, Kyle would freak. And I’m still wondering if something happened—even just a flirtation—happened between Mo and Dorit. The body language between them was telling. 

I agree with Garcelle. I’ve been divorced. If my friend was texting with my husband while we were separated, I’d be upset. 

I don't think that anything happened between Dorit and Mauricio, but Kyle was always "sensitive" about females who might have shown attention to Mauricio, like in one of her earliest White Parties. 

[hoodooznoodooz]

2 hours ago, ZettaK said:

Mauricio didn't even appear kissing a woman, at least in public (at the Mykonos airport) more than a year after the separation announcement-- he was waiting for Kyle to decide what she wanted to do. 

I didn’t love Mauricio or lust after him, in the early seasons, but he does seem to be an excellent father. He also seems to be trying to be a good ex-husband. 

[Sweet-tea]

11 hours ago, ZettaK said:

I don't think that anything happened between Dorit and Mauricio, but Kyle was always "sensitive" about females who might have shown attention to Mauricio, like in one of her earliest White Parties. 

I've wondered why Kyle wanted the separation and what broke her trust in Mauricio. It's been kept under wraps. I think she found something on his phone at the very least, and it wasn't just a woman DMing him. It sounds like it must've been more incriminating than a feeler message to make her want to separate from him after all those years of marriage. 

[Keywestclubkid]

Mo has been checked out .. i mean just watch some of the past seasons with the way she was speaking to him (most of the time bitching) think back to that white party at the football field and he was a after thought ..

 

She thought she would scream Divorce and he would be scrambling to make her stay and he instead was like ok cool ..

 

I think he was done with being treated like crap .. talked to like crap

 

Now all i need is a red wig and to be smoking a E-cig with a bowl of alcohol lol 

Edited Wednesday at 05:53 PM by Keywestclubkid

[Shannah Banana]

11 hours ago, Keywestclubkid said:

Mo has been checked out .. i mean just watch some of the past seasons with the way she was speaking to him (most of the time bitching) think back to that white party at the football field and he was a after thought ..

 

She thought she would scream Divorce and he would be scrambling to make her stay and he instead was like ok cool ..

 

I think he was done with being treated like crap .. talked to like crap

I've wondered how much of his "happy wife, happy life" motto worked against him. 

[ZettaK]

On 1/1/2025 at 2:39 AM, hoodooznoodooz said:

I didn’t love Mauricio or lust after him, in the early seasons, but he does seem to be an excellent father. He also seems to be trying to be a good ex-husband. 

I don't find him attractive, but he is likeable. He was a good husband and he is a good father. 

22 hours ago, Sweet-tea said:

I've wondered why Kyle wanted the separation and what broke her trust in Mauricio. It's been kept under wraps. I think she found something on his phone at the very least, and it wasn't just a woman DMing him. It sounds like it must've been more incriminating than a feeler message to make her want to separate from him after all those years of marriage. 

I don't think she found anything to suggest possible infidelity. She was in shock because of her best friend's suicide, and she had a midlife crisis- they were the same age after all. She said on the show that she felt betrayed by Mauricio. I suspect he was not as sympathetic as she wanted him to be because he was too busy, and traveled a lot for his company, opening new offices all over the world. Betrayal is not always about cheating, although some media might want to go with this option only.

Edited Thursday at 02:45 PM by ZettaK

[ZettaK]

14 hours ago, Keywestclubkid said:

Mo has been checked out .. i mean just watch some of the past seasons with the way she was speaking to him (most of the time bitching) think back to that white party at the football field and he was a after thought ..

 

She thought she would scream Divorce and he would be scrambling to make her stay and he instead was like ok cool ..

 

I think he was done with being treated like crap .. talked to like crap

 

Now all i need is a red wig and to be smoking a E-cig with a bowl of alcohol lol 

I agree. It seems he did everything for her, and the second he was not too attentive because of his job when her best friend died, she mentioned divorce. He eventually accepted it, and she is now upset.

[hoodooznoodooz]

I agree with you guys. I think Kyle is and has always been extremely high-maintenance. Mauricio was somehow able to keep her relatively happy for so many years. But when Lorene died, Kyle demanded even more, I am sure, practically 24/7. Mauricio disappointed her, most likely because, as ZettaK posted, he was busy expanding The Agency. We’ve seen her hold a grudge against plenty of women. 
I am watching Season One again. Kyle is a real piece of work. I wish Camille would return as a main cast Housewife. She’s the perfect villain. She gets under Kyle’s skin like no one else. 
Kyle cannot control her temper, even when she knows that Mauricio brings in hundreds of thousands of dollars helping Camille and Kelsey buy and sell real estate.

She’s incredibly immature, in so many ways. Mauricio is probably relieved that Kyle suggested they divorce.

[hottesthw]

On 12/26/2024 at 6:01 PM, snarts said:

If she weren't so annoying it would actually be sad. Kyle is so insecure, she'll never be happy or content. The season 1 fortune teller was actually right.

This so much!! If you watch earlier seasons, Kyle is/was a very insecure person/wife. Her only confidence seemed to be in her skills as a mother (which I don’t doubt).

But that is also more of a reason why this current breakup/separation continues to call BS for me. She has not shed one tear or barely gotten her froggy voice on when discussing her marriage on camera. Yet bring up one of her awful sisters and she can’t contain herself. Because the strife with her sisters is real. This dramatic situation now is most likely all scripted, written and produced by Kyle to keep her relevant. Because in the realm of reality tv she has become…totally irrelevant. She’s too insecure and desperate to keep a grip on her husband to allow this to all unfold so simply now. 

[lasu]

11 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

But when Lorene died, Kyle demanded even more, I am sure, practically 24/7. Mauricio disappointed her, most likely because, as ZettaK posted, he was busy expanding The Agency.

Not to defend Kyle (especially when we don't know if this scenario is based on reality), but if my husband put work ahead of me when my best friend died from suicide, I probably wouldn't be able to look at him the same way either.  I mean, what's the point of having a partner if they aren't there when you need them most?

[Shannah Banana]

Sorry to be the downer in the room, but I think Mo cheated.  Pure and simple.  He's a good looking, successful, and charming...and he was gone a lot.  In the infamous words of Yolanda Foster, a woman in BH will f$$k your husband for a Birkin bag.  I have no doubt women flocked to Mo, and how much temptation can a man take? Then, he had a demanding wife at home, where he had to constantly turn the other cheek to keep her satisfied, and at some point, one would have to get somewhat resentful.  Anyway, I think Kyle found out, or at least suspected enough, and coupled with the other trauma in her life, she decided to split.

I felt somewhat slimy typing that, but it's all opinion and conjecture, anyway.  Only Kyle and Mo really know and they aren't talking details of the split, and they won't to protect their kids. 

 

[Baltimore Betty]

1 hour ago, Shannah Banana said:

Sorry to be the downer in the room, but I think Mo cheated.  Pure and simple.  He's a good looking, successful, and charming...and he was gone a lot.  In the infamous words of Yolanda Foster, a woman in BH will f$$k your husband for a Birkin bag.  I have no doubt women flocked to Mo, and how much temptation can a man take? Then, he had a demanding wife at home, where he had to constantly turn the other cheek to keep her satisfied, and at some point, one would have to get somewhat resentful.  Anyway, I think Kyle found out, or at least suspected enough, and coupled with the other trauma in her life, she decided to split.

I felt somewhat slimy typing that, but it's all opinion and conjecture, anyway.  Only Kyle and Mo really know and they aren't talking details of the split, and they won't to protect their kids. 

 

You said what a lot of us were thinking.

Kyle wanted to separate and is mad that Mo agreed and is living life while she is slogging thru with responsibilities of a child, twenty dogs and a house. I give her credit for not wanting to live with a cheater (IF that is what happened), instead of looking the other way for a Birkin, even a Wirkin from Walmart. She knows her worth if the cheating rumor is true.

[Surrealist]

On 1/1/2025 at 10:57 AM, Keywestclubkid said:

Mo has been checked out .. i mean just watch some of the past seasons with the way she was speaking to him (most of the time bitching) think back to that white party at the football field and he was a after thought ..

 

She thought she would scream Divorce and he would be scrambling to make her stay and he instead was like ok cool ..

 

I think he was done with being treated like crap .. talked to like crap

I also imagine that Mo got sick and tired of having to navigate through, and even referee, the Richards sisters' intense drama for the past two decades. 

[Sweet-tea]

On 1/2/2025 at 12:58 PM, lasu said:

Not to defend Kyle (especially when we don't know if this scenario is based on reality), but if my husband put work ahead of me when my best friend died from suicide, I probably wouldn't be able to look at him the same way either.  I mean, what's the point of having a partner if they aren't there when you need them most?

I don't think it was just work. I still think there may have been something with another woman and that is why Kyle doesn't want to talk about it. She doesn't want anyone to know he may have cheated or had an emotional affair with someone. Image is everything to her, and she wants to maintain the image of having a great marriage. His traveling and work schedule may have been a part of it, but I don't think that was all of it. JMO. 

Agree that she is high maintenance. Due to her dysfunctional childhood, she probably needs a lot of affirmation and attention from her partner to fill the void she'd had since she was a little girl. 

Edited Saturday at 12:40 PM by Sweet-tea

[Cosmocrush]

2 hours ago, Sweet-tea said:

Image is everything to her, and she wants to maintain the image of having a great marriage.

Or, Kyle wants to protect her girls by not publicly trashing their father. 

[snarts]

39 minutes ago, Cosmocrush said:

Or, Kyle wants to protect her girls by not publicly trashing their father. 

Eh, three of the four are adults and Portia's what, 16? IMHO, if Mo cheated/was caught, there would've had an immediate, dramatically announced separation. (again, not saying he never strayed, just that there wasn't some big event that caused the rift).

What I believe happened was that suddenly menopausal, always attention seeking Kyle didn't feel prioritized. Mo was busy & traveling. She lost her friend & felt he wasn't there for her. So she, in effect, had a midlife crisis, quit drinking, started working out. loved the public attention she was receiving for it & hoped it would recapture Mo's interest.

Then, along came Morgan. Kyle has so enjoyed all the 'is she/isn't she' talk & public scrutiny because it made up for Mo's lack of attention. Mo was confused by her behavior & leaned into work even more. The crack in their marriage widened & suddenly she & Mo were strangers, living as roommates. He finally said WTF are you doing, she hemmed & hawed, & he moved out.

Again, IMHO, I think she may regret pushing him away but it's too late now. Likely because he's realized he's happier without her & Morgan is big nothingburger. 

Edited Saturday at 03:53 PM by snarts

[hoodooznoodooz]

On 1/2/2025 at 1:58 PM, lasu said:

Not to defend Kyle (especially when we don't know if this scenario is based on reality), but if my husband put work ahead of me when my best friend died from suicide, I probably wouldn't be able to look at him the same way either.  I mean, what's the point of having a partner if they aren't there when you need them most?

Absolutely. I agree. But I also suspect that you are more of a PARTNER, than Kyle is, in a relationship. You support and cherish your partner. You reciprocate when you can. You prioritize your partner. I feel as if Kyle demands a LOT, almost constantly. But what exactly does she bring to the table? She’s exhausting. 

[SweetieDarling]

My theory?

I think it was a catch-22. When Mauricio's business started taking off Kyle enjoyed being able to afford and flaunt the house in Aspen, the Birkins, the European vacations, and the new cars every season (Mazerati, Land Rover, that three-wheeled thing she took grocery shopping,...). Mau appeared to enjoy making (keeping?) Kyle happy. I think when The Agency started opening up more and more locations, he was around less and less, and she was ok with that until she wasn't -maybe it had reached a point where was gone too much or maybe she didn't realize how far apart they had grown until her friend died and she needed him by her side and/or some other situation(s)

 

43 minutes ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

But what exactly does she bring to the table? She’s exhausting. 

Her endless neediness?

[RealHousewife]

I don't know if anyone here believes in psychics. I'm a skeptic myself, but Alison Dubois did say when the kids are bigger, Kyle and Mauricio would have nothing in common. 

[ZettaK]

1 hour ago, RealHousewife said:

I don't know if anyone here believes in psychics. I'm a skeptic myself, but Alison Dubois did say when the kids are bigger, Kyle and Mauricio would have nothing in common. 

This happens to some couples. It's not uncommon. 

[Pi237]

4 hours ago, RealHousewife said:

I don't know if anyone here believes in psychics. I'm a skeptic myself, but Alison Dubois did say when the kids are bigger, Kyle and Mauricio would have nothing in common. 

She must be Loving that she got one right!  However, as Zettak said, this is pretty common for couples who have been together a long time.  However, is it evil that I want Camille to come back and rub her nose in it? Or bring the psychic on as a housewife! Now, that would be interesting.  Maybe a whole show built around side characters.  The housekeepers and all the wacky psychics on the same show lmao why not? This franchise has gone stale. 

[lasu]

Camille's been back this season as Kyle's guest, and I don't think she's interested in rubbing anyone's nose in anything after her own divorce. And that "psychic" who reveled in supposedly knowing when people would die ("I love that about me!") as well as being gleeful at the idea NOT helping if someone's kids were kidnapped can stay the hell off of my TV. 

[Pi237]

20 minutes ago, lasu said:

Camille's been back this season as Kyle's guest, and I don't think she's interested in rubbing anyone's nose in anything after her own divorce. And that "psychic" who reveled in supposedly knowing when people would die ("I love that about me!") as well as being gleeful at the idea NOT helping if someone's kids were kidnapped can stay the hell off of my TV. 

Wow, missed that one.  Ok you wjn, don't bring that nut back. 

[Baltimore Betty]

8 hours ago, snarts said:

Then, along came Morgan. Kyle has so enjoyed all the 'is she/isn't she' talk & public scrutiny because it made up for Mo's lack of attention. Mo was confused by her behavior & leaned into work even more.

She traded one Mo for another Mo, she doesn't have to remember another nick name.

[Sweet-tea]

I think there was something more to it than Mo just not being there, especially how she reacted with Morgan. The word "betrayal" wasn't just about his absence or inattention IMO. 

I expect if I am right, we will find out eventually as these things usually come out with celebrities. Regardless, it's pretty clear that Mo has moved on. 

Allison D. was drunk but it looks like she was right when she said Mo wouldn't be able to emotionally fulfill Kyle, although they probably lasted a lot longer than she thought. 

Edited Sunday at 12:44 AM by Sweet-tea