Chit-Chat: The Feels

[Annber03]

GOP: "The states should be able to decide how to  run things!"

Also the GOP: "No, not like that!"

If they actually gave any sort of a damn about "protecting life", I would suggest they should go watch that "Daily Show" clip where Jon rattles off a tragically incomplete list of mass shootings that have happened in the past 25 years and see if they could actually do something about that issue. 

But nah. Better to make women's lives a living hell instead because they have the nerve to think they should be able to decide what to do with their own bodies. 

[ProudMary]

13 minutes ago, Anela said:

Yeah. :(

I was really happy when we won that election in 2023.  We'd already gone through the special election to vote on Issue 1, where they tried to raise the percentage to 60% to be reached, for an amendment to pass. This, after they'd decided we shouldn't have special elections during the Summer - until we had petitions circulating everywhere, to get abortion on the ballot. We won both of those, and I really thought that things were changing for the better. 

But the GOP has a grip on this State, and they didn't really believe in state's rights, and letting the people decide. 

@Anela I'm so sorry.

I remember everything about what you wrote here. You all did everything right and they kept throwing up roadblocks at every round, but Ohioans persisted and won! How is it now possible for these bastards to do this when your votes AMENDED THE FUCKING CONSTITUTION OF OHIO?!?

[shapeshifter]

This Jesse Welles video, "Trump Trailers" isn't available on YouTube yet except as audio-only without captions:
youtu.be/XHUxOWY4Ro0
so here's the early Insta version with video and captions:
http://instagram.com/reel/C6Y361Lr301

 

Here's the Klapper interview with former POTUS Clinton and coauthor Patterson:
https://youtu.be/KbxL5s1RERQ
I especially like what Clinton said near the end:

• “…there's an easy way to fix it.…if you elect a Democrat president,
  they [Republicans] will have an epiphany.
  And all of a sudden they'll rediscover the separation of powers and…constitutional rights and all this stuff.”

 

[bluegirl147]

1 hour ago, tres bien said:

I call them MAGA they are not the GOP not republicans they are Frankentrump’s monster 

But will the monster destroy Trump? He might be their leader but we have seen him back down.  Once they made their hatred of the Covid vaccine known he stopped talking about how he got it made. He kept contradicting himself about the Florida abortion ban that was on the ballot because he would say one thing then his base would say whoa wait a minute.  He might not need their votes anymore but he has this pathological need for people to like him (or at least pretend to) and at this point it's only MAGA that can even tolerate him. 

11 hours ago, Annber03 said:

GOP: "The states should be able to decide how to  run things!"

Also the GOP: "No, not like that!"

The GOP or as @Lantern7 calls them Gross Old Party, always overestimates how many Republicans support their out of touch agenda.   Most people and that includes Reps want better gun control, reproductive decisions to be made by the patient and their doctor and health care to be affordable and accessible. So when things related to those issues are on a ballot they usually pass.  And then the red states legislatures say nope and ignore what the voters voted for.  And instead of being voted out in the next election Reps vote for them again.  I guess they think a lying Rep is better than any Dem.

11 hours ago, Annber03 said:

But nah. Better to make women's lives a living hell instead because they have the nerve to think they should be able to decide what to do with their own bodies. 

As we have said before the cruelty is the point.  The most fervent anti choicers are the religious ones who think any woman who wants an abortion is a promiscuous woman and should be punished.   You never ever hear any of them say a word about the men who are responsible for these women getting pregnant.  Unless of course the men try to prevent the women from terminating their pregnancies. Years ago in PA (I think) there was a case of woman wanting an abortion and the father (I don't think they were married) went to court to stop her.  He lost and she was able to have an abortion.  He would probably win today. 

11 hours ago, Anela said:

I was really happy when we won that election in 2023.  We'd already gone through the special election to vote on Issue 1, where they tried to raise the percentage to 60% to be reached, for an amendment to pass. This, after they'd decided we shouldn't have special elections during the Summer - until we had petitions circulating everywhere, to get abortion on the ballot. We won both of those, and I really thought that things were changing for the better. 

Your state also voted to legalize weed and then they tried to prevent that too.

12 hours ago, annzeepark914 said:

This guy is really showing his mental issues now. Putting up a framed picture of himself among the First Lady portraits? It also shows he's not running the country. If he were, he'd be too busy in the oval office to be obsessed with First Lady portraits. 

He doesn't want to actually do the work of being President. He just wants to sign executive orders, have parades, threaten our allies, eat Big Macs and tweet in all caps.

 

Edited June 19 by bluegirl147

[Mollywolly555]

2 hours ago, bluegirl147 said:

 

As we have said before the cruelty is the point.  The most fervent anti choicers are the religious ones who think any woman who wants an abortion is a promiscuous woman and should be punished.   You never ever hear any of them say a word about the men who are responsible for these women getting pregnant.  Unless of course the men try to prevent the women from terminating their pregnancies. 

I agree completely,  bluegirl147.

Their abortion stance not targeting men is similar to deporting immigrants..... they never go after the employers.

It all makes me sick...their actions and the magas who believe/buy the hype, never stopping to think about the weak, little creep(s) behind the curtain. 

Thank goidness for Jon Stewart, Kimmel, Klepper, Colbert and Heather Cox Richardson helping me thru these unbelievable times. 

 

[Lugal]

19 hours ago, Dimity said:

This  caught my eye: "Senate Republicans largely lined up behind President Donald Trump's handling of the conflict between Iran and Israel and said they trusted Trump's judgment" 

Something to consider as you lay awake at night, staring at the ceiling, and thinking over the idea that the only thing preventing a conflict that has the potential to spiral out of control into WWIII complete with nuclear weapons and pretty much the end of humanity is the intelligence, patience, and diplomatic acumen of one Donald J Trump.

[Affogato]

44 minutes ago, Lugal said:

Something to consider as you lay awake at night, staring at the ceiling, and thinking over the idea that the only thing preventing a conflict that has the potential to spiral out of control into WWIII complete with nuclear weapons and pretty much the end of humanity is the intelligence, patience, and diplomatic acumen of one Donald J Trump.

On the other hand, I like your squirrel. 

[Dimity]

Another day and another

"SpaceX Starship rocket explodes into massive fireball during routine test".

Elon Musk must be realizing by now  that being associated with Donald Trump ruins everything.

[Affogato]

Just now, Dimity said:

Another day and another

"SpaceX Starship rocket explodes into massive fireball during routine test".

Elon Musk must be realizing by now  that being associated with Donald Trump ruins everything.

The area had beautiful beaches, I hear. 

[tearknee]

Re: explosion

 

[peacheslatour]

I was wondering about the rose garden at the White House so I looked at the latest news on the subject. As usual, it's more ugliness.

https://apnews.com/article/trump-white-house-rose-garden-lawn-flagpoles-22fd65b458003b817047cd9f3678978e

WASHINGTON (AP) — The White House broke ground Monday on construction projects ordered by President Donald Trump to pave over the grass in the Rose Garden and install flagpoles on the north and south lawns.

The projects are part of a series of personal touches that Trump, a real estate developer turned politician, has added or is adding to the Executive Mansion and its grounds since he opened his second term in January. The projects also include new artwork of himself on walls and gold-toned flourishes in the Oval Office. He also wants to add a ballroom.

[bluegirl147]

5 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

The projects are part of a series of personal touches 

Personal touches?  Please. He is uglifying everything beautiful previous presidents have left. His wife (he still has one right?  We rarely see her) is no better.  On January 6th when her aid texted her asking her if she wanted to make a statement condemning the violence she said no. She was too busy having a rug measured or something.  Destroying the rose garden is especially galling.  What is that song?  Pave paradise put up a parking lot?

[tres bien]

12 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

I was wondering about the rose garden at the White House so I looked at the latest news on the subject. As usual, it's more ugliness.

 

https://apnews.com/article/trump-white-house-rose-garden-lawn-flagpoles-22fd65b458003b817047cd9f3678978e

WASHINGTON (AP) — The White House broke ground Monday on construction projects ordered by President Donald Trump to pave over the grass in the Rose Garden and install flagpoles on the north and south lawns.

The projects are part of a series of personal touches that Trump, a real estate developer turned politician, has added or is adding to the Executive Mansion and its grounds since he opened his second term in January. The projects also include new artwork of himself on walls and gold-toned flourishes in the Oval Office. He also wants to add a ballroom.

Basically as long as it has nothing to do with the actual job he’s very busy 

[bluegirl147]

18 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

He also wants to add a ballroom.

Why a ballroom?  It's not like any foreign heads of states want to come and visit. And who would he get to perform?  Kid Rock?  Ted Nugent?

[tearknee]

13 minutes ago, bluegirl147 said:

Why a ballroom?  It's not like any foreign heads of states want to come and visit. And who would he get to perform?  Kid Rock?  Ted Nugent?

And Donny is not Charmian Carr.

[ebk57]

We still love our Canadian friends!

[annzeepark914]

Yes, we do love our good neighbors! ❤️🇨🇦❤️🇺🇸. It's gotta be tough living upstairs from this "meth lab".

Edited June 19 by annzeepark914

[Dimity]

Anyone but me remember those old Clairol commercials? Does she or doesn't she?  Only her hairdresser knows for sure.  Why does this make me think of Trump?

 Trump is playing the same game with potential war with Iran as he is doing with tariffs.  That coy  "maybe I will, maybe I won't" nonsense.

Does he plan to spend his entire presidency being a one trick pony in the way he tries to bully the world?  Sadly I don't think even his hairdresser knows for sure.

[tearknee]

Congratulations, CAN!

[bluegirl147]

21 minutes ago, Dimity said:

Anyone but me remember those old Clairol commercials? Does she or doesn't she?  Only her hairdresser knows for sure.  Why does this make me think of Trump?

 Trump is playing the same game with potential war with Iran as he is doing with tariffs.  That coy  "maybe I will, maybe I won't" nonsense.

Does he plan to spend his entire presidency being a one trick pony in the way he tries to bully the world?  Sadly I don't think even his hairdresser knows for sure.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/israel-iran-arak-heavy-water-reactor_n_68536c74e4b01d1a9ebd1cef

He says he will decide in two weeks.  What is he waiting for?  Someone to bribe him? 

[tearknee]

27 minutes ago, bluegirl147 said:

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/israel-iran-arak-heavy-water-reactor_n_68536c74e4b01d1a9ebd1cef

He says he will decide in two weeks.  What is he waiting for?  Someone to bribe him? 

[Affogato]

35 minutes ago, bluegirl147 said:

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/israel-iran-arak-heavy-water-reactor_n_68536c74e4b01d1a9ebd1cef

He says he will decide in two weeks.  What is he waiting for?  Someone to bribe him? 

Someone to give him the attention he deserves, I suppose. 

[ProudMary]

ICE appears to be attempting to use Dodger Stadium in LA as a staging area. Although they were denied entry by employees at the Stadium, from what I'm seeing on Blue Sky, they are still there and within the past hour or so, LAPD has shown up. Protesters and press members have assembled near Stadium Gate E.

It should also be noted that the Dodgers have a game scheduled against the Padres tonight.

As a baseball fan, who also loves reading about the history of the game, I know that this occupation by ICE is particularly disgusting because of the history of the building of Dodger Stadium. Chavez Ravine, where the Stadium is located, was once a thriving neighborhood of Mexican Americans before the City of Los Angeles took the land via eminent domain and other political devices 60+ years ago after the team left Brooklyn for LA.

ICE agents requested permission to use Dodger Stadium parking lots and were denied, team says

https://abc7.com/post/ice-agents-seen-staging-dodger-stadium-amid-reports-more-raids-la-county/16791028/

Edited June 19 by ProudMary

[Kemper]

2 hours ago, bluegirl147 said:

Why a ballroom?  It's not like any foreign heads of states want to come and visit. And who would he get to perform?  Kid Rock?  Ted Nugent?

Didn't Carrie Underwood sing at his inauguration? Or something/somewhere like that. 

[tearknee]

8 minutes ago, Kemper said:

Didn't Carrie Underwood sing at his inauguration? Or something/somewhere like that. 

Shame it wasn't Carrie White.

[EtheltoTillie]

11 hours ago, shapeshifter said:

This Jesse Welles video, "Trump Trailers" isn't available on YouTube yet except as audio-only without captions:
youtu.be/XHUxOWY4Ro0
so here's the early Insta version with video and captions:
http://instagram.com/reel/C6Y361Lr301

 

 

Thank you for posting Welles.  I'd never heard of him.  Now I'm instantly following him on Insta.  Fantastic songs.

Welles has the kind of clever writing you would find in rap music, but I find it difficult to hear the lyrics in rap music.  These songs are easy for me to listen to.

Edited Thursday at 10:03 PM by EtheltoTillie

[ProudMary]

Update on the situation at Dodger Stadium: It seems that LAPD ultimately escorted the ICE agents out of Dodger Stadium. Perhaps Feds at Dodger Stadium was a step too far even for the LAPD?

Anyway, this was the Twitter/X response from the Dept. of Homeland Security.

It couldn't have been "very briefly" as a good number of protesters were able to make their way to the Stadium, along with members of the press, including the intrepid Jacob Soboroff, who seems to be everywhere in LA since the ICE raids began. There's a video clip from Dodger Stadium on his BlueSky account here: https://bsky.app/profile/jacobsoboroff.bsky.social/post/3lry5li7eg22w

Also, I've never been to L.A.--two one-hour layovers at LAX don't count!--but from what I've been reading, you don’t just accidentally make a wrong turn and land at Dodger Stadium. What was their plan?

[Absolom]

Since they were denied access, now they'll deny a plan.

[Dimity]

Does anyone know what the point of it all was?  Were they going to challenge people attending the game?  Churches, hospitals, schools, businesses, farms and courthouses not helping them meet their quota?

[tearknee]

3 hours ago, tearknee said:

Shame it wasn't Carrie White.

 

Or this guy:

 

 

[tres bien]

Trump’s EPA intends to reverse a ban on asbestos a carcinogen that causes disease and death from exposure 

The Justice Department is set to cut two thirds of inspectors monitoring gun sales as part of the Trump Administration’s effort to defang the Bureau of Alcohol Tabacco Firearms and Explosives 

Very busy this horrid administration 

I have little doubt he wants a White House ballroom so he can rent it out for weddings 

Edited Friday at 11:21 AM by tres bien

[tearknee]

2 minutes ago, tres bien said:

Trump’s EPA intends to reverse a ban on asbestos a carcinogen that causes disease and death from exposure 

The Justice Department is set to cut two thirds of inspectors monitoring gun sales as part of the Trump Administration’s effort to defang the Bureau of Alcohol Tabasco Firearms and Explosives 

Very busy this horrid administration 

I have little doubt he wants a White House ballroom so he can rent it out for weddings 

Spicy!

[fairffaxx]

2 minutes ago, tres bien said:

I have little doubt he wants a White House ballroom so he can rent it out for weddings 

You can make your check payable to Donald J. Trump.

[Dimity]

12 minutes ago, tres bien said:

Trump’s EPA intends to reverse a ban on asbestos a carcinogen that causes disease and death from exposure 

Can a reversal on smoking in public places be far behind?

[Eri]

3 hours ago, peacheslatour said:

They should never have access anywhere. Lacking ID, no uniforms, masked and demanding access. They're just a bunch of yokel Proud Boys from the bumfuck nowhere. Assholes.

I agree - a security agency must be identifiable. How are these folks even being vetted!? The more I see these supposed ICE agents the less I trust them - they look like private citizen militia who volunteered to be ICE agents, not officers. No wonder the DHS want extra funding 🙄

Literally creating an uneasy environment for everyone involved and for why? It's going to be chaotic enough as it is if they're like this for next year's World Cup. They're already making it difficult for people to come here and discouraging the ones who can.

What if they 'accidentally' detain a player from an international team or a tourist who is attending one of the matches? 

Edited Friday at 02:22 AM by Eri

[shapeshifter]

3 hours ago, EtheltoTillie said:

Thank you for posting Welles.  I'd never heard of him.  Now I'm instantly following him on Insta.  Fantastic songs.

Welles has the kind of clever writing you would find in rap music, but I find it difficult to hear the lyrics in rap music.  These songs are easy for me to listen to.

Jesse Welles is the new Bob Dylan I've been looking for, and it's not just the choice of guitar + harmonica. Here's another new one on YouTube, "Deja Vu."
https://youtu.be/zZXsDT47dpk

 

[peacheslatour]

9 minutes ago, shapeshifter said:

Jesse Welles is the new Bob Dylan I've been looking for, and it's not just the choice of guitar + harmonica. Here's another new one on YouTube, "Deja Vu."
https://youtu.be/zZXsDT47dpk

 

I've been saying, I think Springsteen should take him on tour with him. Young men have been the largest group moving to the right of the spectrum. Laugh if you want but I blame the adulation that young men display towards the Tates and Rogans of the world is because there are few, if any male rock stars anymore.

[Yeah No]

15 hours ago, tres bien said:

I call them MAGA they are not the GOP not republicans they are Frankentrump’s monster 

Trump is MAGA's monster. I think they created him as much or more as he created them.

9 hours ago, peacheslatour said:

WASHINGTON (AP) — The White House broke ground Monday on construction projects ordered by President Donald Trump to pave over the grass in the Rose Garden and install flagpoles on the north and south lawns.

The projects are part of a series of personal touches that Trump, a real estate developer turned politician, has added or is adding to the Executive Mansion and its grounds since he opened his second term in January. The projects also include new artwork of himself on walls and gold-toned flourishes in the Oval Office. He also wants to add a ballroom.

He's just doing all this to crap all over everything and leave his mark on it. He's only going to be there for less than 4 years now so it's not because he really wants or needs any of it. He's leaving a mess for future presidents to clean up, just like he's doing with the country in general. And that's the point.

7 hours ago, bluegirl147 said:

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/israel-iran-arak-heavy-water-reactor_n_68536c74e4b01d1a9ebd1cef

He says he will decide in two weeks.  What is he waiting for?  Someone to bribe him? 

Sounds like he's going to live up to his TACO nickname again.

[bluegirl147]

10 hours ago, Yeah No said:

Trump is MAGA's monster. I think they created him as much or more as he created them.

It's true. MAGA existed before Trump. It just wasn't known by that name.  He became their leader because he wasn't afraid to say out loud what most of them had been saying for years. Other politicians had tried to win their votes and some succeeded but they didn't inspire the loyalty that Trump did. 

8 hours ago, Lantern7 said:

They feed each other, ensuring their power and existence

A toxic relationship if there ever was one.

 

[annzeepark914]

4 minutes ago, bluegirl147 said:

It's true. MAGA existed before Trump. It just wasn't known by that name.

It might have started out as the Moral Majority (very indignant, outraged Republicans back in the late '60s or early '70s).

[Mollywolly555]

Remember the Tea Party Patriots?

[Bliss]

On Threads:

Andy Borowitz: "Stopping Trump is a short-term solution. The long-term solution - and it will be more difficult - is fixing the educational system that has created so many people ignorant enough to vote for tRump."

[bluegirl147]

13 minutes ago, Bliss said:

On Threads:

Andy Borowitz: "Stopping Trump is a short-term solution. The long-term solution - and it will be more difficult - is fixing the educational system that has created so many people ignorant enough to vote for tRump."

Our current educational system worsening is not a bug, it's a feature.  There has been a concerted deliberate effort to dumb down this country. And it has worked.

[Dimity]

9 minutes ago, bluegirl147 said:

There has been a concerted deliberate effort to dumb down this country. And it has worked.

There is a video online of someone confronting a MAGA at the perade or some rally or another and the person says "we're not stupid, Donald J. Trump is a genius.  What do you think the J stands for?"  Sigh.  I wish that had been a joke but it certainly came across as all too real.

[bluegirl147]

18 minutes ago, Dimity said:

There is a video online of someone confronting a MAGA at the perade or some rally or another and the person says "we're not stupid, Donald J. Trump is a genius.  What do you think the J stands for?"  Sigh.  I wish that had been a joke but it certainly came across as all too real.

 

Yeah he sounds like he means it.

[shapeshifter]

Last night on Colbert, an interview with Paul Simon demonstrated the antithesis of Trump's ego in an anecdote about "The Songs of Silence," beginning here at the 10:09 mark of this 18:36 minute segment:
https://youtu.be/w__tJTosiwk?si=o_xlM75EET1cSqDe&t=609

Quote

[PAUL SIMON]…many years ago I took a trip down the Amazon and we stopped at a little village…It didn't have any roads…12 or 14 huts…in one of the one of the little houses this girl was playing a nylon string guitar and looking at a book and I said to her through the translator “I know a South American song…from Peru. And I played a little bit of El Condor Pasa [If I Could], you know [PAUL SIMON VOCALIZES A FEW BARS].”
And she said "Oh I know that song.…I know an American song."
I said "Okay, want to play it?"
And she played The Sounds of Silence.

[COLBERT] But did she know…?

[PAUL SIMON] We're in the Amazon…

[COLBERT] So did she know that you had written it?

[PAUL SIMON] no of course not Of course not I didn't tell her. I [didn't] wanted to say "Yeah, that's one of mine."??

It's not like Paul Simon is ego-less. 
He's just so much more worthwhile as a human being than djt.
And Paul Simon sets an example worth emulating.

 

Edited Friday at 03:32 PM by shapeshifter

[Lantern7]

1 hour ago, Dimity said:

There is a video online of someone confronting a MAGA at the perade or some rally or another and the person says "we're not stupid, Donald J. Trump is a genius.  What do you think the J stands for?"  Sigh.  I wish that had been a joke but it certainly came across as all too real.

Once again, I think of Red Dwarf and I go with “Judas.”

Cmon, the guy sells his country out more times before 10 a.m. before most other world leaders do all day. And he’d probably only get ten silver coins, then brag he got fifty.

Edited Friday at 04:24 PM by Lantern7

[ProudMary]

1 hour ago, shapeshifter said:

Last night on Colbert, an interview with Paul Simon

I watched this as it aired last night. Colbert is not my regular late night go-to but I saw that Paul Simon was the featured guest so I tuned in to watch and then stuck around to hear Maxwell Frost. Even without his guitar, Paul Simon is a just marvelous storyteller. The segment you shared was a delight to watch, along with the other story he told about why the characters in "You Can Call Me Al" were named Al and Betty. Wonderful interview.

 

[tres bien]

This is what the incompetent unfit guy in the White House put out on his social media platform today 

“Zero boarder crossings for the month for TRUMP versus 60,000 for Sleepy Crooked Joe Biden a man who lost the 2020 Presidential Election by a ‘Landslide!’ Biden was grossly incompetent and the 2020 Presidential Election was a total FRAUD! The evidence is MASSIVE and OVERWHELMING. A Special Prosecutor must be appointed this cannot be allowed to happen again in the United States of America. Let the work begin! What this crooked man and his CORRUPT CRONIES have done to our country in four years is grossly indescribable! MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!”

This is frightening considering how much power he has and not even courts to stop him 

[shapeshifter]

4 minutes ago, tres bien said:

This is what the incompetent unfit guy in the White House put out on his social media platform today 

“Zero boarder crossings for the month for TRUMP versus 60,000 for Sleepy Crooked Joe Biden a man who lost the 2020 Presidential Election by a ‘Landslide!’ Biden was grossly incompetent and the 2020 Presidential Election was a total FRAUD! The evidence is MASSIVE and OVERWHELMING. A Special Prosecutor must be appointed this cannot be allowed to happen again in the United States of America. Let the work begin! What this crooked man and his CORRUPT CRONIES have done to our country in four years is grossly indescribable! MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!”

Hmmm. It sounds like little Donny just realized being POTUS isn't all fun and games.