Chit-Chat: The Feels

[Lantern7]

26 minutes ago, Dimity said:

Just read that Trump struck a deal that allowed 17 family members of a Mexican drug cartel to enter the US.  I guess that's one way to secure the border.

19 minutes ago, ECM1231 said:

From the Daily News---

"Relatives of slain Jan. 6 rioter Ashli Babbitt (inset) are reportedly set to receive a $5 million settlement in their wrongful death suit against the federal government. (AP)"

Only in America....smdh

It’s like we’re trapped in a crap musical, Trump is doing a medley of songs for twenty minutes about how absolutely evil he’s being, and we have no way of knowing when the end will come.

[peacheslatour]

Trump slays at Kennedy Center. What class.

“And then they rigged the election, and then I said, ‘You know what I’ll do? I’ll run again and I’ll shove it up their a..,’” he said.

The audience roared with laughter.

“So if they would’ve left us alone, and wouldn’t have cheated on the election, and wouldn’t have rigged it, I would’ve been retired right now,” he went on.

“I would’ve been happily doing something else, and instead they have me for four more years, can you believe that?”

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-kennedy-center-election/?utm_source=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark

[shapeshifter]

7 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

Trump slays at Kennedy Center. What class.

“And then they rigged the election, and then I said, ‘You know what I’ll do? I’ll run again and I’ll shove it up their a..,’” he said.

The audience roared with laughter.

“So if they would’ve left us alone, and wouldn’t have cheated on the election, and wouldn’t have rigged it, I would’ve been retired right now,” he went on.

“I would’ve been happily doing something else, and instead they have me for four more years, can you believe that?”

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-kennedy-center-election/?utm_source=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark

And now, for a break:

 

[Salacious Kitty]

God bless Randy Rainbow. 😂

[peacheslatour]

Apologies to Gary Larson.

[Bastet]

2 hours ago, bluegirl147 said:

The media is still doing everything they can to make Trump look unlike the unhinged wannabe dictator that he is.

The truth about Donald Trump rarely makes it into the news
 

Quote

Donald Trump has no coherent plan, other than self-aggrandizement and self-enrichment.

He is making this stuff up as he goes along. He is impulsive and changes his mind constantly. He lies pathologically and is often incoherent. He promotes actions that are overtly illegal. He is hostile to every form of expertise. Others, most notably Elon Musk and Stephen Miller, are making decisions in his name that he doesn’t seem to know or care about.

Asked if he has to “uphold the Constitution,” he replied “I don’t know.”

He is also flailing. His approval rating is badly underwater. Judges have blocked many of his most consequential actions. His impetuous tariff proposal is backfiring massively, leading him to lie about imaginary trade deals as the economy teeters. Ordinary people are getting outraged by the administration’s hate-fueled cruelty toward nonwhite immigrants. His self-dealing is increasingly overt.

This is important context for any news article or segment about Trump, and yet it’s almost entirely left out of the daily coverage that he gets in mainstream media outlets.

The elite reporters who cover Trump still dutifully report what he says. Then they point out that others disagree. And they think they’ve done their job.

They aren’t entirely guileless anymore, which I guess is good. But their pushback tends to be lame, situational, and several paragraphs into articles whose headlines and leads are credulous and stenographic.

The author gives examples, and concludes:

Quote

What Every Trump Article Needs

Every article about Trump’s immigration policies needs to make it clear that those policies are steeped in racism.

Every article reporting on what Trump said needs to make it clear that he is a serial liar.

Every article quoting Trump needs to quote him at length, rather than cleaning up his incoherence.

Every article about a Trump announcement needs to make it clear that he could very well reverse himself anytime.

Every article about a Trump reversal needs to clearly indicate that the White House is in constant chaos, and that its reversals are deeply destabilizing

Every article about something Trump says in a social media post needs to state that he often uses social media to impetuously propose irrational things that end up not happening.

Every article involving him “testing the limits” of the rule of law needs to clearly indicate that he has no grasp of his constitutional responsibilities and is acting so unlawfully that he’s basically running a criminal enterprise.

Every article about what Trump “believes” needs a caveat that his only consistent beliefs are self-interested.

Every article about Trump enriching himself needs to make it clear that enriching himself is his dominant guiding principle.

Every article about something the administration has done needs to question whether Trump is actually aware of it.

Anything less than that is basically a cover-up.

 

[Anela]

2 hours ago, Dimity said:

I just read on another thread that they're calling for a congressional hearing into whether Biden had cancer while president and hid it.  Your tax dollars at work folks.  Maybe after that exercise in futility is over they can call a congressional hearing into Roosevelt having hidden his handicap due to polio from the public for four terms. 

 

They seem to be forgetting that he had a more than competent Vice-President to take over, if needed. That is what she was elected for. 

4 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

Apologies to Gary Larson.

A friend posted a meme to my page over the weekend, saying that Trump was going to change the name of the San Andreas Fault, to Biden's Fault. I didn't post it, because the announcement that he had cancer, came out the day after. 

Edited Yest. at 07:04 PM by Anela

[bluegirl147]

1 minute ago, Dimity said:

Just read that Trump struck a deal that allowed 17 members of a Mexican drug cartel to enter the US.  I guess that's one way to secure the border.

Maybe they bought that crypto coin he was selling.  Didn't that come with an American citizenship?

[tres bien]

I wish President Biden had had a Senator Barry Goldwater in 2023

I’m not going to go into that but right now I’m sad for President Biden that the vultures are circling above

He doesn’t deserve this and reporters have no ethics that they would question Trump about President Biden’s health just to hear an ignorant man say stupid childish remarks 

[bluegirl147]

8 minutes ago, tres bien said:

He doesn’t deserve this and reporters have no ethics that they would question Trump about President Biden’s health just to hear an ignorant man say stupid childish remarks 

And nobody scolds Trump when he says those remarks. Remember the manufactured outrage when Tim Walz had the audacity to call Trump and Vance weird? The Republican party hypocrisy is bad enough but the media also playing that game now is a travesty. 

[Lantern7]

1 hour ago, peacheslatour said:

Trump slays at Kennedy Center. What class.

“And then they rigged the election, and then I said, ‘You know what I’ll do? I’ll run again and I’ll shove it up their a..,’” he said.

The audience roared with laughter.

“So if they would’ve left us alone, and wouldn’t have cheated on the election, and wouldn’t have rigged it, I would’ve been retired right now,” he went on.

“I would’ve been happily doing something else, and instead they have me for four more years, can you believe that?”

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-kennedy-center-election/?utm_source=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark

Once again: if he had taken COVID seriously, he wouldn't have inadvertently killed people who might have voted for him.

Sometimes, I wonder if things would've been better had he actually won in 2020. After his loss, he spent the next four years gearing up to be even worse than ever, and the lunatic right wing designed plans around it. But I figure 2021-2025 would've been as big a demoralizing slog as 2017-2021, and Republicans would've have at least considered giving him a third term. Of course, going for that means Obama would have to step into the ring (regardless of whether he'd want to come back), and that's one fight the GOP wouldn't want to see play out.

Edited Yest. at 07:53 PM by Lantern7

[shapeshifter]

35 minutes ago, Anela said:

A friend posted a meme to my page over the weekend, saying that Trump was going to change the name of the San Andreas Fault, to Biden's Fault. I didn't post it, because the announcement that he had cancer, came out the day after. 

Too bad that Biden is not able to own this like Obama embraced the moniker of “Obamacare” for the Affordable Care Act.

[peacheslatour]

Let's talk about divisiveness, shall we? "Why are the Dems so angry? Why can't we put politics aside?"

President Donald Trump argued that a GOP budget bill should help only Republican states instead of benefiting Democratic governors.

"We're going to make a couple of tweaks," Trump said of his "one big beautiful bill" during a Tuesday trip to Capitol Hill. "I mean, we don't want to benefit Democrat governors, although I would do that if it made it better, but they don't know what they're doing."

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-democratic-governors/

[bluegirl147]

8 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

Let's talk about divisiveness, shall we? "Why are the Dems so angry? Why can't we put politics aside?"

President Donald Trump argued that a GOP budget bill should help only Republican states instead of benefiting Democratic governors.

"We're going to make a couple of tweaks," Trump said of his "one big beautiful bill" during a Tuesday trip to Capitol Hill. "I mean, we don't want to benefit Democrat governors, although I would do that if it made it better, but they don't know what they're doing."

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-democratic-governors/

Remember when President Obama refused to visit New Jersey after Hurricane Sandy because Chris Christie a republican was governor? Oh yeah that is right President Obama did go to NJ because he was president for all states and all citizens regardless of party.

[Ohiopirate02]

6 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

Let's talk about divisiveness, shall we? "Why are the Dems so angry? Why can't we put politics aside?"

President Donald Trump argued that a GOP budget bill should help only Republican states instead of benefiting Democratic governors.

"We're going to make a couple of tweaks," Trump said of his "one big beautiful bill" during a Tuesday trip to Capitol Hill. "I mean, we don't want to benefit Democrat governors, although I would do that if it made it better, but they don't know what they're doing."

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-democratic-governors/

I almost want to ask my bootlicker Congressman how he feels about this, since my state has a Democrat as a governor. He sends a weekly email praising Trump, but I don't know how he can swing this one especially if we get another hurricane.

[shapeshifter]

55 minutes ago, Bastet said:

The truth about Donald Trump rarely makes it into the news
The author gives examples, and concludes:

True.
But still on PBS…
Senator Chris Murphy has been grilling so many of Trump’s flunkies lately, that he ought to get free kabobs for his lunch break. Or would that be an unethical gift? 
Anyway, it’s nice to see someone taking up the slack:

 

[Anela]

31 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

Let's talk about divisiveness, shall we? "Why are the Dems so angry? Why can't we put politics aside?"

President Donald Trump argued that a GOP budget bill should help only Republican states instead of benefiting Democratic governors.

"We're going to make a couple of tweaks," Trump said of his "one big beautiful bill" during a Tuesday trip to Capitol Hill. "I mean, we don't want to benefit Democrat governors, although I would do that if it made it better, but they don't know what they're doing."

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-democratic-governors/

Yeah, I saw that. Just as when he demanded they suck up to him, in order to get things needed to help prevent or treat covid, when it was at its worst. Also, Jared apparently telling him to let people in the blue states die, so that he might have a better chance of winning the election.

But we just want to be angry?

[ProudMary]

Your body, their choice.

New Trump vaccine policy limits access to COVID shots

https://apnews.com/article/vaccines-fda-kennedy-covid-shots-rfk-trump-bb4de15b6ff955d6cd0b406aaec3cdc5?user_email=b64090a5e7d2dda4a1fc620d46e470de4deb3a029f426ef6f4e83e4e5d5bbaf1

The Trump administration said Tuesday it will limit approval for seasonal COVID-19 shots to seniors and others at high risk pending more data on everyone else — raising questions about whether some people who want a vaccine this fall will be able to get one.

...

It’s unclear what the upcoming changes mean for people who may still want a fall COVID-19 shot but don’t clearly fit into one of the categories.

“Is the pharmacist going to determine if you’re in a high-risk group?” asked Dr. Paul Offit, a vaccine expert at Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia. “The only thing that can come of this will make vaccines less insurable and less available."

[Kemper]

1 hour ago, bluegirl147 said:

And nobody scolds Trump when he says those remarks. Remember the manufactured outrage when Tim Walz had the audacity to call Trump and Vance weird? The Republican party hypocrisy is bad enough but the media also playing that game now is a travesty. 

Right now, the Dems don't have anyone who can successfully skewer Trump with the truth. Mixed in with some wickedly funny, deadly humor and sarcasm. A Jon Stewar "type" but in the personna of a Dem Senator or Congressman. 

[peacheslatour]

3 minutes ago, Kemper said:

Right now, the Dems don't have anyone who can successfully skewer Trump with the truth. Mixed in with some wickedly funny, deadly humor and sarcasm. A Jon Stewar "type" but in the personna of a Dem Senator or Congressman. 

I miss Al Franken.

[ProudMary]

I came here to post this article and I see that it fits right in as comedians are being discussed. I watch Jimmy Kimmel's monologue every night. I think he and Seth Meyers are the best and the funniest of the late-night hosts for political satire. (I can't stand Jimmy Fallon.) Last night, I wondered why Jimmy Kimmel Live was a repeat epidode. 🤔 Now I know why. Well done Jimmy!

Jimmy Kimmel Canceled His Whole Show Last Night to Avoid Promoting Jake Tapper's Biden Book

https://www.showbiz411.com/2025/05/20/jimmy-kimmel-canceled-his-whole-show-last-night-to-avoid-promoting-jake-tappers-biden-book#google_vignette

Jimmy Kimmel canceled his whole show last night. ABC used a rerun instead.

The reason: CNN’s Jake Tapper was scheduled as a guest to promote his book, “Original Sin.” The book paints Joe Biden as feeble, and a liar about his mental and physical condition during the 2024 campaign.

 

[Affogato]

50 minutes ago, ProudMary said:

Your body, their choice.

New Trump vaccine policy limits access to COVID shots

https://apnews.com/article/vaccines-fda-kennedy-covid-shots-rfk-trump-bb4de15b6ff955d6cd0b406aaec3cdc5?user_email=b64090a5e7d2dda4a1fc620d46e470de4deb3a029f426ef6f4e83e4e5d5bbaf1

 

 

Which disease runs us over first? Maybe simply listeria. 

[Eri]

On 5/19/2025 at 9:52 AM, DrSpaceman73 said:

If you wanted rhe border problem stopped in the beginjing that should have happened under Regan.  Saying biden is responsible for not stopoing it in the beginning is just untrue and preposteroys. Claiming Biden was responsible for not stopping a 4 decade old problem is ridiculous.  Trump is 'solving' the problem by ignoring the constitution.  It's not a real solution. 

Thanks for this - it's definitely been a "hot potato" issue for decades with Congress. If they actually passed any legitimate reform, they'd have nothing to campaign on 🙄 or worse, they'd have to focus on other things that would better society, like poverty and homelessness (perish the thought!) of which they have no interest in doing.

What is wrong with giving immigrants due process?  What rights are they demanding  exactly that are offensive to these folks??? To work in jobs that our citizens won’t do for low pay? Or to pay into the tax system for benefits they can’t use?

1 hour ago, Kemper said:

Right now, the Dems don't have anyone who can successfully skewer Trump with the truth. Mixed in with some wickedly funny, deadly humor and sarcasm. A Jon Stewar "type" but in the personna of a Dem Senator or Congressman. 

I think they missed a trick with correcting some of this with the COVID vaccine. Put out the message that THEY have a plan to eradicate the Right with guerilla grass-roots 'vaccines are bad' campaigns, followed up with 'Look it's working, the Right are dying" news reports. Play them at their own game and fight misinformation with misinformation 😉

Edited 22 hours ago by Eri

[Spartan Girl]

2 hours ago, Lantern7 said:

Sometimes, I wonder if things would've been better had he actually won in 2020. After his loss, he spent the next four years gearing up to be even worse than ever, and the lunatic right wing designed plans around it. But I figure 2021-2025 would've been as big a demoralizing slog as 2017-2021, and Republicans would've have at least considered giving him a third term. Of course, going for that means Obama would have to step into the ring (regardless of whether he'd want to come back), and that's one fight the GOP wouldn't want to see play out.

You can’t think like that. We would be worse off than we are now, COVID.

1 hour ago, ProudMary said:

Your body, their choice.

New Trump vaccine policy limits access to COVID shots

https://apnews.com/article/vaccines-fda-kennedy-covid-shots-rfk-trump-bb4de15b6ff955d6cd0b406aaec3cdc5?user_email=b64090a5e7d2dda4a1fc620d46e470de4deb3a029f426ef6f4e83e4e5d5bbaf1

 

 

May every antivaxxer burn in hell. Hopefully it’s not set in stone, people are already calling their congresspeople in retaliation.

[annzeepark914]

So, FEMA hasn't even arrived in MO or KY yet? I remember when President Clinton's new FEMA director arrived in DC (James Witt). He'd been the Arkansas emergency services director so he had a lot of experience. He stipulated that FEMA people would arrive ahead of time when hurricanes were forecast. And when disasters struck, the agency's professionals got there quickly. What Trump has done (trying to shift disaster recovery all on the states) can't be done without lengthy preparations, worked out between the state & the federal govt. He doesn't care about the victims or the states. 

[Dimity]

1 minute ago, annzeepark914 said:

He doesn't care about the victims or the states. 

I wonder when it will finally dawn on the Maga that Trump simply does not care whether any of them live or die.  And he's surrounded himself with like minded individuals.

[bluegirl147]

6 minutes ago, annzeepark914 said:

So, FEMA hasn't even arrived in MO or KY yet? I remember when President Clinton's new FEMA director arrived in DC (James Witt). He'd been the Arkansas emergency services director so he had a lot of experience. He stipulated that FEMA people would arrive ahead of time when hurricanes were forecast. And when disasters struck, the agency's professionals got there quickly. What Trump has done (trying to shift disaster recovery all on the states) can't be done without lengthy preparations, worked out between the state & the federal govt. He doesn't care about the victims or the states. 

Bet he would rush FEMA to Palm Beach if something happens.  

4 minutes ago, Dimity said:

I wonder when it will finally dawn on the Maga that Trump simply does not care whether any of them live or die.  And he's surrounded himself with like minded individuals.

Probably never.  How many of his supporters died because they didn't wear masks?  Or because they didn't get vaxxed even though Trump did?   If they lose their house in a tornado they will blame the deep state.  Or Obama.  They already blame him for hurricane Katrina.

[Lantern7]

29 minutes ago, Dimity said:

I wonder when it will finally dawn on the Maga that Trump simply does not care whether any of them live or die.  And he's surrounded himself with like minded individuals.

They don’t care that he doesn’t care about them. On some level, they realize that he’s given them the greatest gift of all: the ability to be their absolute worst and not suffer for it. It’s a gift he’s given to everyone. I’m not exempt. I want to consider myself a nice person, but I would laugh my fool head off if something really bad were to happen to him. If the GOP can have fun with Mr. Pelosi almost getting killed and speculate how serious Biden’s condition is, I can wonder if Trump could be talked into having his parade in Dallas.

[kittykat]

I've been trying to learn more about the basis for the book and why he would choose now to publish and write it. And yet there are so many more pressing matters going on with the world and the current administration and the more I learn about it the more I come to the conclusion that Jake Tapper can fuck all the way off.

It's a cash grab and continued pandering to CNNs shameless bothsidesing.

Edited 20 hours ago by kittykat

[Dimity]

2 minutes ago, kittykat said:

I've been trying to learn more about the basis for the book and why he would choose now to publish and write it. And yet there are so many more pressing matters going on with the world and the current administration and the more I learn about it the more I come to the conclusion that Jake Tapper can fuck all the way off.

It's a cash grab and continued pandering to CNNs shameless bothsidesing.

The speculation I have read is that this is more aimed at Kamala Harris than anyone else.  As in warning her off from ever trying for public office again.  No idea if that's just conspiracy theorizing from the left side of the spectrum or not.  But I have no interest whatsoever in reading this hatchet job.

[Affogato]

16 minutes ago, kittykat said:

I've been trying to learn more about the basis for the book and why he would choose now to publish and write it. And yet there are so many more pressing matters going on with the world and the current administration and the more I learn about it the more I come to the conclusion that Jake Tapper can fuck all the way off.

It's a cash grab and continued pandering to CNNs shameless bothsidesing.

He ws likely writing this for a while, certainly while biden was still president and most likely when Kamala was still in the running. It takes a while to write a book and publish a book. 

Edited 20 hours ago by Affogato

[StatisticalOutlier]

4 hours ago, Lantern7 said:

Sometimes, I wonder if things would've been better had he actually won in 2020.

I wish the people who protected Trump from himself during his first term hadn't done so.  I know they thought they were doing the right thing, and it seemed like the end of the world then, but it wasn't.  What we have now is far worse, and keeping Trump from acting on his worst instincts disguised who he truly was and what he truly wanted and just how insane he is.

It would have been awful, of course, but it's hard to imagine how it could be worse than it is now.  And there's the chance that back then, people would see who he really is, like they are doing now, at a time when they weren't as deep in the maga delusion as they are now.

 

 

 

[shapeshifter]

31 minutes ago, StatisticalOutlier said:

I wish the people who protected Trump from himself during his first term hadn't done so.  I know they thought they were doing the right thing, and it seemed like the end of the world then, but it wasn't.  What we have now is far worse, and keeping Trump from acting on his worst instincts disguised who he truly was and what he truly wanted and just how insane he is.

It would have been awful, of course, but it's hard to imagine how it could be worse than it is now.  And there's the chance that back then, people would see who he really is, like they are doing now, at a time when they weren't as deep in the maga delusion as they are now.

Trump is just the weapon.

[LexieLily]

4 hours ago, Kemper said:

Right now, the Dems don't have anyone who can successfully skewer Trump with the truth. Mixed in with some wickedly funny, deadly humor and sarcasm. A Jon Stewar "type" but in the personna of a Dem Senator or Congressman. 

Tim Walz called Trump/Vance weird during the campaign and that caught on, based on how immediately the GOP took offense, but then he stopped 😞

[peacheslatour]

[ProudMary]

This is quite an article; lengthy and with a good deal of the methodology spelled out, which is important because the subject is going to piss off a lot of people and the authors need to show their work. I'm quoting a few paragraphs, but the full piece is worth the read as it gives social scientific credence to opinions many of us on the left have held for years now. It's also a good playbook for the Democratic party moving forward. (Bolding inside the quote, mine)

Is Trump’s base racist? Social scientists begin to weigh in

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/is-trump-s-base-racist-social-scientists-begin-to-weigh-in/ar-AA1EZRC7

In January, [political sociologist David N.] Smith and his University of Kansas colleague, associate sociology professor Eric A. Hanley, published a 47-page paper deconstructing the Republican president’s appeal. Building on decades of scholarship about the lure of authoritarianism and their own analysis of American voting psychology in 2012 and 2016, the social scientists make an argument that some may find offensive and others unsurprising.

It goes something like this: Trump’s biggest supporters are motivated by bigotry and want him to hurt the people they dislike.

“A lot of people find it really hard to believe that people would really want what Trump represents,” said Smith, who began researching authoritarianism as a sociology graduate student more than 40 years ago. “My experience is the hard core of people who support Trump election after election is they really mean it. They support him because of what he says and does, not in spite of it.”

While this wouldn’t be the first time the academic community identified dictatorial red flags in Trump, ascribing them to a significant portion of the U.S. electorate reflects a rarer scholarship. Yet Smith and Hanley don’t shy from the implications in “Authoritarianism From Below: Why and How Donald Trump Follows His Followers,” in which they write that “75% of Trump’s voters supported him enthusiastically, mainly because they shared his prejudices, not because they were hurting economically.”

...

The conclusion bucks the exit poll-popularized narrative that Vice President Kamala Harris lost to Trump because she spoke less credibly to voters’ economic anxiety and — if it pierces the academic conference bubble — could influence a debate by Democrats about whether to try siphoning Trump’s support or recapture their own.

...

Remorse was expressed more by those who did not vote in the 2024 presidential election (31%) and voters who supported a third-party candidate (14%).

Smith said it’s these voters the Democrats should concentrate on, and that his research showed that even “milder” Trump voters hew “far closer to MAGA Republicans than they are to Democrats.”

 

[peacheslatour]

3 minutes ago, ProudMary said:

This is quite an article; lengthy and with a good deal of the methodology spelled out, which is important because the subject is going to piss off a lot of people and the authors need to show their work. I'm quoting a few paragraphs, but the full piece is worth the read as it gives social scientific credence to opinions many of us on the left have held for years now. It's also a good playbook for the Democratic party moving forward. (Bolding inside the quote, mine)

Is Trump’s base racist? Social scientists begin to weigh in

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/is-trump-s-base-racist-social-scientists-begin-to-weigh-in/ar-AA1EZRC7

 

 

That's so messed up. It terrifies me. Remember when Obama talked about our "better angels"? This is heartbreaking.

[ECM1231]

44 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

That's so messed up. It terrifies me. Remember when Obama talked about our "better angels"? This is heartbreaking.

It really is. 😞

[tearknee]

Anakin Skywalker:
The Sith rely on their passion for their strength. They think inward, only about themselves.

Chancellor Palpatine:
And the Jedi don't?

Anakin Skywalker:
The Jedi are selfless... they only care about others.

Chancellor Palpatine:
Or so you've been trained to believe. Why is it, then, that they have asked you to do something you feel is wrong?

[Salacious Kitty]

Back when politicians had compassion for the "other side "

 

[peacheslatour]

22 minutes ago, Salacious Kitty said:

Back when politicians had compassion for the "other side "

 

Is it too much to ask that our leaders be decent, kind human beings?

[Dimity]

24 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

Is it too much to ask that our leaders be decent, kind human beings?

Cruelty and a lack of compassion are hallmarks of today's Republican party.

[tres bien]

42 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

Is it too much to ask that our leaders be decent, kind human beings?

Not a leader but what would possess Jake Tapper to write a hit job book on President Biden other than of course $$$

 

[tearknee]

11 minutes ago, tres bien said:

Not a leader but what would possess Jake Tapper to write a hit job book on President Biden other than of course $$$

 

All the President's Men. Hal Holbrooke.

[Lantern7]

2 hours ago, peacheslatour said:

Is it too much to ask that our leaders be decent, kind human beings?

1 hour ago, Dimity said:

Cruelty and a lack of compassion are hallmarks of today's Republican party.

Democrats can't have the morale high ground alone. They need more. "If elected, I promise to restore this nation to stability on the world stage. I will reach across the aisle to get help when needed. But if they talk that epic shit about me, I will throw them off the Capitol roof. You think I'm kidding? FRICKING. TRY. ME."

I hate this administration. We should be focusing on other alarming/distressing stuff . . . like how many times 73 could possibly go into 24.

[LexieLily]

6 minutes ago, Lantern7 said:

Democrats can't have the morale high ground alone. They need more. "If elected, I promise to restore this nation to stability on the world stage. I will reach across the aisle to get help when needed. But if they talk that epic shit about me, I will throw them off the Capitol roof. You think I'm kidding? FRICKING. TRY. ME."

Jasmine Crockett and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, your time is now.

[kittykat]

5 hours ago, ProudMary said:

This is quite an article; lengthy and with a good deal of the methodology spelled out, which is important because the subject is going to piss off a lot of people and the authors need to show their work. I'm quoting a few paragraphs, but the full piece is worth the read as it gives social scientific credence to opinions many of us on the left have held for years now. It's also a good playbook for the Democratic party moving forward. (Bolding inside the quote, mine)

Is Trump’s base racist? Social scientists begin to weigh in

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/is-trump-s-base-racist-social-scientists-begin-to-weigh-in/ar-AA1EZRC7

 

 

Yup.  Said it since the day after the election that it wasn't the economy for many of them.

 

[Soapy Goddess]

20 hours ago, Browncoat said:

So, we’re meant to have sympathy for an evil, racist bastard who got a scratch on his ear, but the MAGAts can’t muster a tiny shred of sympathy for a man with metastatic cancer?  Cancers can be fast-growing.  If you only get checked once a year, you might miss a small tumor, or it might not even exist as a palpable tumor until it’s already “Stage 9.”

Ok, then can you explain why the Dems refused to clap for a CHILD that had brain cancer?  While the right was clapping with tears in their eyes, ALL of the Dems sat there looking straight ahead with no expression on their face. 

20 hours ago, bluegirl147 said:

You mean like Donald Trump who thinks anyone who doesn't support him is the enemy? 

No, I'm talking about friends and relatives. Also people that I mingle with, including the folks here. We're fine everywhere else, but here we're enemies???? Makes zero sense to me.

[Soapy Goddess]

19 hours ago, DrSpaceman73 said:

On 5/19/2025 at 10:06 PM, Soapy Goddess said:

'm not defending anyone. I'm just giving my opinion. Two different things.

Because he was the president of the U.S. We are supposed to be aware of any health issues that could interfere with him doing his job properly.

You mean like Comey trying to put doubt out to the media that he had no idea what "86" meant??  Hmmm.

Splitting hairs on defending someone vs giving an opinion. You're giving an opinion that defends trump. 

Biden is no longer president and just found out about his prostate cancer.  He wasn't obligated to tell anyone 

So then you're saying I'm not allowed to have an opinion?!? Who died and left you in charge of opinions?

If you look at the BOLD in my second paragraph, I said "HE WAS...."  And I stand by that because he had to have known 3-4 months ago.

19 hours ago, Yeah No said:

A little document known as the US Constitution begs to differ with you:

From Google AI:

"Yes, even known criminals are entitled to due process. Due process, as guaranteed by the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments of the U.S. Constitution, ensures fair procedures in criminal cases. This means individuals are protected from arbitrary government actions and are entitled to a fair trial with rights like representation, the right to confront witnesses, and the right to present a defense. "

"Yes, even undocumented immigrants are entitled to due process under the U.S. Constitution. The Constitution guarantees due process rights to all "persons," which includes non-citizens. This means undocumented immigrants are entitled to fair treatment under the law, including the right to defend themselves in court. "

"Yes, undocumented immigrants, including those accused of crimes, are entitled to due process rights in the United States. This is guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution, which protects the rights of all individuals, regardless of immigration status. "

Yes, those rights extend to anyone on US soil. This is baked into our Constitution for centuries now.

 

Ok, but we've also been told that several of the undocumented immigrants WERE already processed through the system and found to be guilty. Those are the only people I was referring to.

[Soapy Goddess]

18 hours ago, Yeah No said:

But Trump hates people for their political beliefs. He's made that very clear in his public statements and SM posts by mocking, insulting and vowing to get even with them. Do you accept that from him but not the rest of the population?

Understood. But again, I'M NOT TRUMP!  I have no control over what he says, does or vows to do. Why must all Reps die on the cross for his sins?!?

And no, I don't accept any of the stupid shit either. For that matter, I don't accept stupid shit from ANYONE. 

Why must it be all or nothing with the Dems? Why can't they see a person for who they are and not put them in a box without even trying to get to know them?? It's  irrational and hostile. It's like hating someone for the color of their skin or their religion. It's just wrong and biased...especially when all one knows is what's on the outside, which is superficial at best.

18 hours ago, lookeyloo said:

I don't hate my fellow Americans because of their political beliefs.  I so strongly disagree with the MAGAs in my orbit that it leads me to where I think their values are 180 from mine. It is hard to have a real conversation where we keep saying "I disagree".  No common ground.  Then it becomes "small talk" and I am not a fan of that on a long term basis.  One can only talk about the weather so much.  Oh wait, then it gets into the NWS being incapacitated.  

I can appreciate what you're saying because I'm going through the same thing in reverse. As for here, it's just easier to ignore something we don't agree with, instead of just piling on.