Chit-Chat: The Feels

[fastiller]

18 minutes ago, Dimity said:

My sister's main news sources are the Sun papers (she practically repeats their editorials word for word), the National Post and Rebel News.  We may not have the television equivalent of Fox News (although CTV sometimes makes a valiant effort) but the majority of our print media is right wing owned.  And that's not even touching on 'talk' radio.  My rule of thumb here in the Ottawa area when entering a place of business is if they've got the radio tuned to CFRA I am exiting. Quickly.

Does Murdoch (or more precisely, his family's companies) own any media in Canada?

[Cementhead]

My Trump loving, liberal hating Canadian co-worker watches Fox News in Canada somehow.  She also listens to it on her satellite radio in her car.  At least that's what she tells me. 🤷‍♀️ Our political conversations have become non-existent now in order for me to maintain my sanity.

Edited Thursday at 06:40 PM by Cementhead

[StatisticalOutlier]

6 hours ago, bluegirl147 said:

I cringe whenever I hear someone say I read it on FB or I saw it on Twitter (I refuse to call it what Musk renamed it).

And here's the thing:  Lots of people bitch about how social media is a primary source and accelerator of misinformation and ruinous to the country (and world), but every time they go to Facebook or Twitter themselves, they're saying, "I hereby vote in favor of Facebook and Twitter." 

Sure, it's a vote fueled by addiction, but it's still a vote and that's the only thing that matters.

It's so interesting how blind we are.  Like robots taking over (to put it in simple terms)--we know where this goes, and we've known this for decades, and yet we're hurtling headfirst into it. 

And we know how ruinous social media is, and even on individual levels that it doesn't make us happy.  We know this and we just won't stop.

That's why I've concluded that we're doomed.  And it makes me extra sad that we've done it to ourselves.  I could accept a mano a mano battle of humans vs. dinosaurs, and humans lost.  At least that I can understand. 

 

Edited Thursday at 10:24 PM by StatisticalOutlier
Hurtling, not hurling. Although all this makes me want to hurl.

[bluegirl147]

A couple years ago when there was that FB outage I thought please let it be permanent.  And I say this as someone who rarely posts and rarely comments on FB. I would probably never delete my account but if FB disappeared I would be thrilled. I don't do any other social media. I recognize this is sort of a form of social media but at least here I'm with (mostly) friendly peers.

And yes @StatisticalOutlier socia media is going to destroy us.

[Dimity]

25 minutes ago, fastiller said:

Does Murdoch (or more precisely, his family's companies) own any media in Canada?

A significant portion of our newsmedia is owned by Postmedia Network- which, and this came as no surprise to me when I researched it- is 60% owned by Chatham Asset Management an American based company "known for it's close ties to the Republican Party".

[PRgal]

1 hour ago, Dimity said:

A significant portion of our newsmedia is owned by Postmedia Network- which, and this came as no surprise to me when I researched it- is 60% owned by Chatham Asset Management an American based company "known for it's close ties to the Republican Party".

But they're still much more neutral than some US outlets.  IMHO, anyway.

[mostlylurking]

On 5/14/2025 at 11:13 AM, kittykat said:

We lucked out on COVID too.  Mr. Kat was able to work from home. Our kid was still a toddler and didn't start school until 22 so no remote learning. We opted out of preschool though so that was a lot of hands on time. We kept outdoor exposure limited. Libraries weren't open but thank heavens for Libby.

We masked up when needed, got vaccinated when they became available.  I didn't catch it until 2023 and I'm pretty sure I likely caught it from lil Kat's school.

Similar story here.  My kid was two so I didn’t have to worry about school.  I’ve actually never gotten it (unless I was asymptomatic and didn’t know). 

[Dimity]

3 minutes ago, PRgal said:

But they're still much more neutral than some US outlets.  IMHO, anyway.

I disagree, they are not neutral when it comes to politics.  Not even close. 

[PRgal]

11 minutes ago, Dimity said:

I disagree, they are not neutral when it comes to politics.  Not even close. 

And we can agree to disagree.  But then again, I might not be Maple MAGA, but I'm likely more right wing than you are. :) 

[luv2lurk]

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25 minutes ago, Dimity said:

I disagree, they are not neutral when it comes to politics.  Not even close. 

And the CBC is?

 

[Dimity]

The CBC is not right leaning, by a long shot.  But that doesn't mean they lean left.  A better example here would be the Toronto Star.

[BetyBee]

2 hours ago, bluegirl147 said:

A couple years ago when there was that FB outage I thought please let it be permanent.  And I say this as someone who rarely posts and rarely comments on FB. I would probably never delete my account but if FB disappeared I would be thrilled. I don't do any other social media. I recognize this is sort of a form of social media but at least here I'm with (mostly) friendly peers.

And yes @StatisticalOutlier socia media is going to destroy us.

I left FB right after the election. I don't really miss it, except for looking up the hours of businesses I'm interested in and pics of some of my relatives. I truly believe life was better when we didn't really know the politics of our friends and relatives! SM (and talk radio and Fox News) has divided us, imo. OTOH, I don't mind discussing politics with virtual strangers. I've been on various forums where we don't use our real names for many years. I've learned a lot from those "strangers" and have occasionally become RL friends with some of them. I guess I like the internet, but I don't like FB.

Edited Thursday at 08:52 PM by BetyBee
correcting a tense

[StatisticalOutlier]

22 hours ago, Yeah No said:

It might surprise you to find out that minorities are disproportionately represented in government jobs when compared to their numbers in the general population.

It wouldn't surprise me, and I'm fine with it.  This is what I feel the role of government can be (in addition to doing the things that nobody else wants to do because they're not profitable).  Plus I think the government was responsible for a lot of the harm, so if it can help redress it, please do.

 

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To make matters worse she was had very good reason to believe it was because she was white. I know this woman for over 50 years and let me tell you, a kinder, sweeter, more liberal soul you'd never want to meet. But this experience changed and soured her.

Here's another data point:

I'm a white female.  Almost all of my jobs have been for the government.  My first job out of college was for the state's taxing authority, as a file clerk because my degree was in economics (which a lot of people don't realize is a social science, and therefore not a pipeline to a job). 

After six months or so, I was promoted to secretary.  One day I got a call from a guy in the agency's EEOC department saying he heard I had a degree in economics.  I said he heard right, and he asked why I was working as a file clerk.  I proudly informed him that I wasn't a file clerk, I'd been promoted to secretary.  

He started talking about the agency's economic analysis department, and how I should be working there.  I agreed.  Then he said something about "as a minority" and that got repeated a few times.  I was confused, but figured he was talking about being female (this was back in the late 1970s, when want ads for jobs might still have been using the traditional "Help Wanted-Male" and "Help Wanted-Female" categories).

So the conversation continues and he mentions this minority thing some more and I finally asked what he meant by "minority."  He said, "You're black."  And I said, "No I'm not."  And he said what he was looking at said I was, and I said well they've obviously never met me because I'm not. 

There was a pause, and he said, "Congratulations on your promotion" and hung up.

I didn't have to infer or surmise why this guy wouldn't push for me to get transferred to the economic analysis department.  I was told flat out.

And yet for some reason I wasn't mad then, and I'm not bitter.  It's just how the cookie crumbled for me, and if that job could be given to somebody who needed more of a leg up than I did, then that's a good thing. 

Every once in a while I do kind of regret pushing him on what minority he was talking about, and seeing what happened when I showed up in person.  Because I really could claim in all honesty I thought he was referring to my being female.

 

Edited Thursday at 10:25 PM by StatisticalOutlier

[Lantern7]

Checking in. World's still a mess. I guess we need to focus on smaller things.

I am tickled Sean Duffy is getting raked over the coals. I wouldn't consider his reality TV "career" to be memorable. While he is in the minority of presentable-looking MAGA spokespeople, dude is in over his head. I just want someone to snap and tell him he's in the real world. And if the missus get thrown under the bus as well? Better. She's been a pain in the ass going back to 1994.

Edited Friday at 02:52 AM by Lantern7

[shapeshifter]

3 hours ago, StatisticalOutlier said:

And we know how ruinous social media is, and even on individual levels that it doesn't make us happy.  We know this and we just won't stop.

That's why I've concluded that we're doomed.  And it makes me extra sad that we've done it to ourselves.  I could accept a mano a mano battle of humans vs. dinosaurs, and humans lost.  At least that I can understand. 

Society has certainly been losing a lot of ground in the SM flame wars. But it’s not over yet. One thing both sides seem to agree on is, for example, that kids do better academically without cell phones in school. And adults are taking breaks too. 

But you’re right to be concerned about the collision-cyber-course society is taking.

Meanwhile — perhaps because I’m a “Chicken Little” type (“The sky is falling! The sky is falling!”) — I routinely worry about all digital archives on earth being wiped out by either a natural event (e.g., sunspots) or by a cyber-attack.

So, @StatisticalOutlier, you keep an eye out for societal collapse, and I’ll be watching solar storms etc., and then we can both be ready to say: I told you so!
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[StatisticalOutlier]

3 hours ago, bluegirl147 said:

I would probably never delete my account but if FB disappeared I would be thrilled.

So here's what I don't understand:  If you'd be thrilled if FB disappeared, why don't you disappear it yourself? 

[bluegirl147]

2 minutes ago, StatisticalOutlier said:

So here's what I don't understand:  If you'd be thrilled if FB disappeared, why don't you disappear it yourself? 

I have very few FB friends and I do enjoy what they post. And as someone mentioned upthread some business's FB pages come in handy. It's the ads and all the you might be interested in garbage I hate. 

[tessaray]

6 minutes ago, StatisticalOutlier said:

So here's what I don't understand:  If you'd be thrilled if FB disappeared, why don't you disappear it yourself? 

I understand. I've reluctantly kept my FB account because that was where my late mother posted. And my late sister's kids still post. And for the occasional post about my home town. And because without FB Messenger I'd probably never hear from half my immediate family. 

MZ is beyond creepy and it's painful to contribute to his bottom line but otoh I remember the old days of expensive long distance and rare letters from distant family. 🤷‍♀️

[Ohiopirate02]

24 minutes ago, bluegirl147 said:

I have very few FB friends and I do enjoy what they post. And as someone mentioned upthread some business's FB pages come in handy. It's the ads and all the you might be interested in garbage I hate. 

And there's also the fact that local media is on life support. Facebook is one of the few options available to keep up on local happenings and news. 

[annzeepark914]

Why don't people just enjoy Facebook by only using it to keep in touch with families and friends (e.g., sharing photos, family stories, childhood friends' memories, jokes, etc)? Just avoid Facebook's "news"... it's not a credible source anyway (well, that's my opinion). My sister shares FB blogs, reels, etc., but I block them. And FB tries to interest me in other people's stuff but I block them too. I keep it simple & peaceful.

[Dimity]

11 minutes ago, tessaray said:

I understand. I've reluctantly kept my FB account because that was where my late mother posted. And my late sister's kids still post. And for the occasional post about my home town. And because without FB Messenger I'd probably never hear from half my immediate family. 

MZ is beyond creepy and it's painful to contribute to his bottom line but otoh I remember the old days of expensive long distance and rare letters from distant family. 🤷‍♀️

This is where I am as well.  I'll give credit to FB for giving me the chance to reconnect with family members who live far from me - this was what brought me to FB in the first place and it's what keeps me there.  I also used to belong to several FB groups and 'met' some lovely people there.  I've drastically cut back on my participation on FB though and that coincided, not with current politics, but with the free for all that has happened where my wall is under constant bombardment from anyone and anything!  If that's what MZ thinks people want he is sadly mistaken

[bluegirl147]

The only thing MZ cares about is keeping people on FB for longer periods of time. He sells our data and makes money from all the ads we are subjected to.  The fact he had a hand in the hyper partisan divide that keeps growing means nothing to him. 

[Dimity]

The plus side of FB is that I do get to see posts and memes that make me laugh and that I agree with.  The downside is I get to see posts and memes that have the opposite effect.  Anyway in the spirit of a thing I agree with that FB shared with me today:

 

Edited Friday at 12:23 AM by Dimity

[StatisticalOutlier]

47 minutes ago, Dimity said:

If that's what MZ thinks people want he is sadly mistaken

Yet they keep accepting it, so maybe he's not mistaken.  They always have their reasons, but the bottom line is that they still go there.  

Personally, I can't stomach supporting Facebook, so I do without, and "suffer" for it.  But I've realized that it's not really suffering if all I'm getting is being friends with someone who can't be bothered to communicate with me directly instead of having all my information about them be the same as what they share with the whole world on Facebook.

I like my friendships to be more personal than that.  It does definitely mean that I'm out of the loop on a lot of things, probably even most things, but I somehow manage to find out the important stuff, and if I don't find out something important, then I don't know I didn't find it out, so who cares.

This shift has made me unspeakably sad, but there's nothing I can do about it without sacrificing my sanity and principles, so I picked a side and I live with it.  I have friends from high school who when we get together relate all sorts of stuff about people we went to school with, which they find out from trolling FB (they never post, but hoover up every bit of information they can).  I'm as big a gossip as anybody, but I always think, "Why do you care what this person we barely know is doing?"  Never mind that it's very likely a highly curated version of what the person is doing, which is interesting only in once-a-year holiday letters.

 

1 hour ago, annzeepark914 said:

Why don't people just enjoy Facebook by only using it to keep in touch with families and friends (e.g., sharing photos, family stories, childhood friends' memories, jokes, etc)?

You're still feeding the beast.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[PRgal]

My FB feed is pretty spammy now.  I still use the other Meta apps for communication/promoting my book/posting silly pics on my personal Instagram (I still need to post a Jewish and Asian Heritage Month post in my author account...I've been super-lazy about it because I've been working on my book)!  I think I spend more time on Substack.

[tessaray]

9 minutes ago, StatisticalOutlier said:

This shift has made me unspeakably sad, but there's nothing I can do about it without sacrificing my sanity and principles, so I picked a side and I live with it. 

I respect that. 

[Dimity]

This really reminds me of what a totalitarian regime would do but help me out here though, is it typical that sitting presidents would have giant banners of themselves hanging from public buildings in this way?

[peacheslatour]

4 minutes ago, Dimity said:

This really reminds me of what a totalitarian regime would do but help me out here though, is it typical that sitting presidents would have giant banners of themselves hanging from public buildings in this way?

[Lantern7]

1 hour ago, Dimity said:

This really reminds me of what a totalitarian regime would do but help me out here though, is it typical that sitting presidents would have giant banners of themselves hanging from public buildings in this way?

“CLOSE YOUR EYES, MARION! WHATEVER YOU DO, DO NOT OPEN YOUR EYES!!!”

At least use a new picture. I don’t want to see the mugshot blown up that big.

[Lantern7]

Aside from @mojoween, I don't know if any of you watch The Amazing Race. The finale was tonight, and one of the contestants racing for $1 million was a pill named Jonathan. The guy spent most of the season making passive-aggressive swipes at her wife, and she looked like it took a lot to hang in there.

Here's my thing: the guy got a LOT of vitriol from fans. I don't get it. I mean, I get it, but there are so many people in the world that need to be punched harder and more often than Jonathan. I can't openly say "read a website!" on a thread because that would be rude of me. I just figure the guy is small potatoes. Also, I figure there will be at least six people on the upcoming Big Brother season that will turn out to be worse than him.

I watched TDS. Saw Trump ramble on and on about Sean during his visit to the UAE. Turns out the guy does know Sean was a competitive lumberjack back in the day. Nice to see SOMETHING sticks in that pudding brain of his.

[ebk57]

31 minutes ago, Lantern7 said:

I watched TDS. Saw Trump ramble on and on about Sean during his visit to the UAE. Turns out the guy does know Sean was a competitive lumberjack back in the day. Nice to see SOMETHING sticks in that pudding brain of his.

I am still shocked that I hadn't seen that "weave" until watching the show.  It was so "impressive" that I don't understand why no one has tried to 25th Amendment him.  He's insane.

 

I hope Jake Tapper is working on a book to be released in 2029...  sigh...

Edited Friday at 05:02 AM by ebk57

[Lantern7]

11 hours ago, ebk57 said:

I am still shocked that I hadn't seen that "weave" until watching the show.  It was so "impressive" that I don't understand why no one has tried to 25th Amendment him.  He's insane.

The closest comparison I can think of is Casey Stengel. He was known for talking about one topic, veering into another without warning, then unexpectedly go back to the first topic. The big difference is that he was a success as a baseball manager. Trump as President? Not so much. And yeah, I wouldn't be opposed to him running on the White House lawn, getting chased by guys wielding giant butterfly nets.

Edited Friday at 04:40 PM by Lantern7

[Soapy Goddess]

17 hours ago, Affogato said:

There isa lot of material that Trump is a narcissist. Not loyal, transactional. There is considerable expert observation that he has deteriorated. Mary Trump says his behavior has become like his father, who had dementia. 

Agree to the narcissism. But he IS loyal to those are are loyal to him. And IMO, in order to be transactional, you need to have some sense of loyalty (give & take) with whom you're being transactional.

Funny how when the Reps noticed Biden's decline (and he had a LOT of outward signs), Dems swore up & down denying it repeatedly. Now all of a sudden the Dems recognize "deterioration"? Sorry, but this is just turning the tables by parroting. Biden can only wish his decline was so active.

As for Mary Trump...isn't her 15 minutes up by now? I wouldn't trust anything that comes out of her mouth (or poison pen). She reminds me of Samantha Markle, and all the other celebrity relatives that are purely driven by jealousy and looking to make a quick buck.

Edited Friday at 07:00 AM by Soapy Goddess

[tearknee]

Meghan and the Don are both jerks though. As with Thatcher, they go out of their way to make their enemies (even family) look good or at least the lesser of two evils.

[Soapy Goddess]

17 hours ago, lookeyloo said:

I don't ever bring up politics but the MAGA people I know (just speaking for the people I know, not making a generalization)  are quick to start something.  I am not good at confrontation and can't always get the right words out at the time.  

Thanks for not putting every conservative into one box. I believe there are folks on both sides that are quick to start something. Whether it's a fight, a finger, or just a nasty comment...it's unfortunately the way of world these days. it's people like us who are non-confrontational who struggle to find the right words, and in some instances, no words at all. No one needs that type of aggravation.

[Soapy Goddess]

18 hours ago, Dimity said:

I cannot believe we've reached a point where Trump supporters are prepared to defend him as being vengeful because, to them, that's somehow better than being hateful.

We have a sitting president who has spent all his time in office so far on a revenge tour that serves only to satisfy his massive ego and does absolutely nothing positive for the country.   But at least he's not motivated by hate? 

I'm not defending revenge over hate. I was simply trying to see things from your perspective, and chose the lesser of two evils in the discussion. But that said, he has plenty reason to feel that way after what they put him through. And NO, I will not be elaborating because it's pointless, since we'll never agree. However, isn't it interesting that the guy who had it out for him (Comey) is no under investigation for inciting an attempt on Trump's life? 

16 hours ago, bluegirl147 said:

It's hard to combat lies with the truth. Especially when the lies are what people want to believe.  And the lies are sensationalized so they get more media coverage.  

We did that all through Biden's decline. Everyone wanted to believe he could "run circles around" his cabinet, but that wasn't the truth. Even though we could hear it in his speech, watch it as he shuffled across the stage...sometimes not knowing which way was up, down, left or right. And sadly, as he stood frozen in some instances. The only media reporting this was Fox, while mainstream media covered up. As someone here likes to say "you can't have it both ways".

Edited Friday at 07:44 AM by Soapy Goddess

[Soapy Goddess]

16 hours ago, Dimity said:

Now though?  Not a chance.  Minds are closed and providing actual facts and figures gets handwaved away.  It's discouraging to say the least.

Isn't that true of everyone, though? Once burnt, twice shy. And even though it was obvious (see above), we were duped for so long, you really can't blame Cons for not listening. Especially since we now know we were right all along.

13 hours ago, bluegirl147 said:

A couple years ago when there was that FB outage I thought please let it be permanent.  And I say this as someone who rarely posts and rarely comments on FB. I would probably never delete my account but if FB disappeared I would be thrilled. I don't do any other social media. I recognize this is sort of a form of social media but at least here I'm with (mostly) friendly peers.

And yes @StatisticalOutlier socia media is going to destroy us.

Agree, FB is the worst! Hardly anyone is monitoring and people get crazy on you. The only reason to keep a page is to stay in touch with long distance friends & family. Period.

Edited Friday at 07:46 AM by Soapy Goddess

[Soapy Goddess]

9 hours ago, Lantern7 said:

Checking in. World's still a mess. I guess we need to focus on smaller things.

I am tickled Sean Duffy is getting raked over the coals. I wouldn't consider his reality TV "career" to be memorable. While he is in the minority of presentable-looking MAGA spokespeople, dude is in over his head. I just want someone to snap and tell him he's in the real world. And if the missus get thrown under the bus as well? Better. She's been a pain in the ass going back to 1994.

Agree things are still messy. Duffy would probably say he knows that he's in the "real world" since that's where he came from originally. As for Rachel (his wife), some might say she would have been WAY better than Hasselback or McCain.

[Mollywolly555]

3 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

Agree to the narcissism. But he IS loyal to those are are loyal to him. And IMO, in order to be transactional, you need to have some sense of loyalty (give & take) with whom you're being transactional.

What is he "giving" to the UAE?

How's that loyalty working out for Sarah Huckabee Sanders and the people of her state?

[shapeshifter]

10 hours ago, Dimity said:

This really reminds me of what a totalitarian regime would do but help me out here though, is it typical that sitting presidents would have giant banners of themselves hanging from public buildings in this way?

Here’s the link to the article with the picture:
https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-banner-portrait-department-agriculture-b2751192.html

[Affogato]

4 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

Agree to the narcissism. But he IS loyal to those are are loyal to him. And IMO, in order to be transactional, you need to have some sense of loyalty (give & take) with whom you're being transactional.

Funny how when the Reps noticed Biden's decline (and he had a LOT of outward signs), Dems swore up & down denying it repeatedly. Now all of a sudden the Dems recognize "deterioration"? Sorry, but this is just turning the tables by parroting. Biden can only wish his decline was so active.

As for Mary Trump...isn't her 15 minutes up by now? I wouldn't trust anything that comes out of her mouth (or poison pen). She reminds me of Samantha Markle, and all the other celebrity relatives that are purely driven by jealousy and looking to make a quick buck.

Actually, by definition narcissism precludes loyalty. Also. Ote that Trump removed the security details from people in danger of their lives, people who had helped him in the past, because they had said things about Trump that Trump didn’t like. That is transactional. It is not loyalty. Loyalty respects past relationships.  Really, look at how he has treated his family. 
 

i linked to an article from March 2023 about Trumps visible deterioration. It isn’t sudden or new. Currently, when asked to speak publicly, he just rambles incoherently. This has been noticed for some time. 
 

Mary Trump is clearly employable without the association to Donald. What you did there? That is cheap  mud slinging. 

[shapeshifter]

1 hour ago, Mollywolly555 said:

What is he "giving" to the UAE?

“UAE to build biggest AI campus outside US in Trump deal” (reuters.com/world/china/uae-set-deepen-ai-links-with-united-states-after-past-curbs-over-china-2025-05-15/).

Just my own speculation: Trump’s willingness to include the UAE in his Middle East tour was tied to the UAE not having an extradition treaty with the United States and Trump possibly facing jail terms after he leaves office. 

I wonder who suggested the AI campus deal in the UAE to Trump. I don’t think Elon would personally have knowledge of that. Should make for some future Pulitzer Prize-winning research and writing.

Wait. “The Pulitzer Prizes…are 23 annual awards given by Columbia University in New York City for achievements in the United States…” (wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulitzer_Prize).
So that’s really why Trump is defunding Columbia? (nytimes.com/article/trump-university-college.html?unlocked_article…url-share and thehill.com/homenews/media/3775079-trump-sues-pulitzer-board-for-defamation-in-defending-winning-russia-collusion-stories).
Trump's much publicized and much accepted reason for defunding campuses not doing enough to combat antisemitism makes me just as mad as his "locker room" (sexual assault) talk, because he’s really just shifting the blame for defunding the universities onto Jewish students. No thanks. Keep your gold stars.
But it’s really just a money grab to fund tax cuts for oligarchs.

So, a Nobel Prize for the future UAE-Trump story, since the Nobel is international.

Edited Friday at 12:25 PM by shapeshifter

[Mollywolly555]

1 hour ago, Affogato said:

Mary Trump is clearly employable without the association to Donald. What you did there? That is cheap  mud slinging. 

One might call it "confrontational". 

Along with previous comments about Jill Biden, Hunter, and the frequently appearing Joe Biden. 

[bluegirl147]

46 minutes ago, shapeshifter said:

Wait. “The Pulitzer Prizes…are 23 annual awards given by Columbia University in New York City for achievements in the United States…” (wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulitzer_Prize).
So that’s really why Trump is defunding Columbia?

He's probably been nursing a grudge that Art of the Deal didn't win a Pulitizer.

53 minutes ago, Affogato said:

Mary Trump is clearly employable without the association to Donald.

And qualified to speak about his mental acuity or lack thereof. She has a PHD in clinical psychology.  And she grew up seeing him. So she has a frame of reference of  how he was and how he is now.

1 hour ago, Mollywolly555 said:

How's that loyalty working out for Sarah Huckabee Sanders and the people of her state?

And she is someone who never wavered in her support of him and lied for him daily when she was his press secretary.  If that is how he treats his loyal foot soldiers.....

5 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

But that said, he has plenty reason to feel that way after what they put him through

After what they put him through? Any allegations against Trump had credible evidence to proceed. Anyone who spoke out against him had every right to. The man considers the least little slight as some sort of declaration of war and he responds like the vengeful spiteful child that he is.

5 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

The only media reporting this was Fox, while mainstream media covered up

And I don't see any mainstream media covering Trump's mental decline. They act like his "weaves" are just Trump being Trump.  He gets the benefit of the doubt for previously being an idiot.

5 hours ago, tearknee said:

Meghan and the Don are both jerks though.

Meghan Markle and Donald Trump do not deserve to be in the same sentence.

5 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

As for Mary Trump...isn't her 15 minutes up by now? I wouldn't trust anything that comes out of her mouth (or poison pen). She reminds me of Samantha Markle, and all the other celebrity relatives that are purely driven by jealousy and looking to make a quick buck.

As I mentioned above Mary Trump is qualified to talk about Donald Trump.  Samantha Markle barely knew Meghan. And has made a career out of talking about her.  Mary and Samantha are not the same.

7 hours ago, Lantern7 said:

And yeah, I wouldn't be opposed ot him running on the White House lawn, getting chased by guys wielding giant butterfly nets.

Or a tranquilizer gun.

7 hours ago, ebk57 said:

I hope Jake Tapper is working on a book to be released in 2029...  sigh...

It will probably be Bob Woodward. We all know how he loves to keep his scoops to himself till he can make the most money off of them.

[shapeshifter]

8 hours ago, Lantern7 said:

And yeah, I wouldn't be opposed ot him running on the White House lawn, getting chased by guys wielding giant butterfly nets.

12 minutes ago, bluegirl147 said:

Or a tranquilizer gun.

I vote for the butterfly nets.
Better humiliation. 
It's his turn.
And the public deserves the comic relief.

 

 

[Spartan Girl]

I’m sorry but Jake Tapper’s book reeks of bullshit. I never trust “unnamed sources.” And I really feel like him and other members are the media are doubling down and passing the buck to absolve their own role in normalizing Trump and ratfucking the election.

[Dimity]

1 hour ago, bluegirl147 said:

As I mentioned above Mary Trump is qualified to talk about Donald Trump.  Samantha Markle barely knew Meghan. And has made a career out of talking about her.  Mary and Samantha are not the same.

Absolutely but why is anyone talking about Meghan Markle in any connection to Donald Trump?  We truly have entered the twilight zone.

Donald Trump, god help us, is the president of the United States.  He has the power to make life and death decisions.  A few of the many concerns we all have with regard to him are that he abuses his power, he doesn't understand what it means to govern and he's demented or has dementia - probably both.

But sure let's talk about Meghan Markle or perhaps Kim Kardashian or Amber Heard or Pamela Anderson?  Any woman the public has strong opinions on.  I know as a society we love to blame women and exculpate men but isn't this reaching a bit?

Edited Friday at 02:06 PM by Dimity

[bluegirl147]

2 minutes ago, Dimity said:

I know as a society we love to blame women and exculpate men but isn't this reaching a bit?

I forget where I first heard it but women have been being blamed since Eve and the apple.

10 minutes ago, Spartan Girl said:

I’m sorry but Jake Tapper’s book reeks of bullshit. I never trust “unnamed sources.” And I really feel like him and other members are the media are doubling down and passing the buck to absolve their own role in normalizing Trump and ratfucking the election.

Once Trump is gone, dead or in exile or whatever, we will have people like Jake Tapper writing books saying they knew all along what a monster Trump was. 

[Dimity]

1 hour ago, shapeshifter said:

I vote for the butterfly nets.
Better humiliation. 
It's his turn.
And the public deserves the comic relief.

I've given up hope that he will ever see the inside of a prison but I will settle for his party finally wising up and turning on him. 

[Affogato]

18 minutes ago, bluegirl147 said:

I forget where I first heard it but women have been being blamed since Eve and the apple.

Once Trump is gone, dead or in exile or whatever, we will have people like Jake Tapper writing books saying they knew all along what a monster Trump was. 

With all of the Pope drama, well, it is well to remember that the Catholic Church is not just a organization mired in the patriarchy, it kind of is the guiding light of the patriarchy. At least in the Western world. 
 

People have been saying it.