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Annber03
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And yet the same people who are awed by his celebrity are also the ones talkng about how celebritees need to stay out of politics. You'll pardon me if I can't take their critiques all that seriously. 

Annber03
Annber03

For as long as I live, I will never understand the hold this guy has over people. 

Annber03
Annber03

Everything I want to say would be a string of curse words at this point.  Hope you're happy, people who decided to be all precious with your votes or who felt this guy deserved another chance aft

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LexieLily

LexieLily

10 minutes ago, Annber03 said:

For real, what does it have to take at this point? Why can't someone just go in there, slap the cuffs on EVERYONE who was involved in this shitshow, and march them out of the White House and ensure that they will never be allowed back in/headed straight to trial to be held criminally accountable for this? These are extremely unusual circumstances, at this point we need to just literally throw their asses out and we need to do it now.

And that includes Trump as well. Especially given the way he's shrugging this off. Just....get everyone the fuck out of there already. We literally cannot afford to go through four more years of this. 

I'm being slightly facetious but the sentiment is the same. At this point I do not care if Trump and the rest get charged with something as small as a traffic violation to give them time to be charged with the rest. FIGURE IT OUT, PEOPLE!

(I know none of them actually drive but you get the drift.)

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suomi

suomi

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Thank you, Moira Donegan.

from the article:

But there is something in the story of the accidentally leaked war secrets group chat that speaks to the essence of the second Trump administration: its cavalier incompetence, its contempt for human life, its fealty to grievance and resentment, indifference to consequence, and jeering, jocular enthusiasm for violence. It shows us something about the Trump administration that we have previously seen only rarely: what they act like when they think they are in private. It’s not a pretty sight.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/mar/26/trump-signal-chat-middle-east-opinion

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lookeyloo

lookeyloo

10 minutes ago, suomi said:

Thank you, Moira Donegan.

from the article:

But there is something in the story of the accidentally leaked war secrets group chat that speaks to the essence of the second Trump administration: its cavalier incompetence, its contempt for human life, its fealty to grievance and resentment, indifference to consequence, and jeering, jocular enthusiasm for violence. It shows us something about the Trump administration that we have previously seen only rarely: what they act like when they think they are in private. It’s not a pretty sight.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/mar/26/trump-signal-chat-middle-east-opinion

Oh lordy. Before we know it he will be asking her for a "full throttled apology" and threatening the Guardian.

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Dimity

Dimity

5 minutes ago, lookeyloo said:

Oh lordy. Before we know it he will be asking her for a "full throttled apology" and threatening the Guardian.

While nothing he does would surprise me thankfully the Guardian is a UK newspaper and they don't care at all if they piss Trump off.  I have a feeling they'd be saying "bring it on".

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Bastet

Bastet

9 hours ago, bluegirl147 said:

You are being generous.  They are underground at this point.

It was said about something far less important, but I've thought of it pretty much daily since the inauguration:  The bar is set so low, Satan called OSHA to report a tripping hazard.

5 minutes ago, Dimity said:

While nothing he does would surprise me thankfully the Guardian is a UK newspaper and they don't care at all if they piss Trump off. 

Not a bit.  Ever since he took office again, they changed the request for contributions that appears at the end of each article to read:

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Why you can rely on the Guardian not to bow to Trump – or anyone

I hope you appreciated this article. Before you move on, I wanted to ask whether you could support the Guardian’s journalism as we face the unprecedented challenges of covering the second Trump administration.

As Trump himself observed: “The first term, everybody was fighting me. In this term, everybody wants to be my friend.” 

He’s not entirely wrong. All around us, media organizations have begun to capitulate. First, two news outlets pulled election endorsements at the behest of their billionaire owners. Next, prominent reporters bent the knee at Mar-a-Lago. And then a major network – ABC News – rolled over in response to Trump’s legal challenges and agreed to a $16m million settlement in his favor.

The Guardian is clear: we have no interest in being Donald Trump’s – or any politician’s – friend. Our allegiance as independent journalists is not to those in power but to the public. Whatever happens in the coming months and years, you can rely on the Guardian never to bow down to power, nor back down from truth.

How are we able to stand firm in the face of intimidation and threats? As journalists say: follow the money. The Guardian has neither a self-interested billionaire owner nor profit-seeking corporate henchmen pressuring us to appease the rich and powerful. We are funded by our readers and owned by the Scott Trust – whose only financial obligation is to preserve our journalistic mission in perpetuity.

What’s more, we make our fearless, fiercely independent journalism free to all, with no paywall – so that everyone in the US can have access to responsible, fact-based news.

With the new administration boasting about its desire to punish journalists, and Trump and his allies already pursuing lawsuits against newspapers whose stories they don’t like, it has never been more urgent, or more perilous, to pursue fair, accurate reporting.

 

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Makai

Makai

1 hour ago, ProudMary said:

Oh, FFS.

Oval office video clip, from FOX News of course, of DJT making the announcement, at Aaron Rupar's link. (31 sec.)

Trump: "What we're gonna be doing is a 25 percent tariffs on all cars that are not made in the United States."

https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3llcpo6vl4z2r

Oh, so that’s why the stock market was down after a pretty solid week. I should have known Trump was to blame. 

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Dimity

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The same lawmakers who claim to protect "family values" are now willing to exploit children rather than reconsider their stance on undocumented workers who were performing these jobs.

This new bill proposes eliminating work-hour restrictions for 16- and 17-year-olds, allowing them to work unlimited hours even on school nights, while also loosening protections for 14- and 15-year-olds in certain circumstances.

Supporters claim this promotes "parental rights" and aligns with federal standards, but critics rightly point out that this is a direct response to labor shortages caused by Florida’s extreme immigration policies.

Think about that for a second: instead of addressing fair wages and labor conditions to attract adult workers, the solution is... making kids work longer hours?

This is part of a disturbing national trend allowing teenagers to take on dangerous jobs and work overnight shifts. We are watching history repeat itself as economic desperation is met not with better policies, but with regressive exploitation.

Children should not be filling the gaps left by political failures. They should be in school, getting rest, and building a future, not becoming a cheap labor force.

Thoughtful post by Caroline Codsi on a move being considered in Florida to "lift some child labor laws to fill jobs vacated by undocumented migrants".   In Trump's America the stories are coming thick and fast at the Federal and the State level.  This one is something I suspect most of us saw coming.  But it likely won't get the attention it should.

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nokat

nokat

1 minute ago, Dimity said:

FB post by Caroline Codsi on a move being considered in Florida to "lift some child labor laws to fill jobs vacated by undocumented migrants". 

We KNEW that was the next move. Oh, no migrants to work, let's get the kids back to work, the lazy things.

Also, we're acting like eggs are fentanyl, because you practice good farming practices up there.

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Annber03

Annber03

2 hours ago, Dimity said:

He does realize that this means Americans are going to be paying more even for American cars?  Or doesn't he care?

That would require Trump to use his brain, though. And that's presuming he's got one, let alone a functioning one. 

I LOVE that message from the Guardian. Memo to the U.S. media, this is how you're supposed to respond to fascists. 

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Anela

Anela

28 minutes ago, Dimity said:

Thoughtful post by Caroline Codsi on a move being considered in Florida to "lift some child labor laws to fill jobs vacated by undocumented migrants".   In Trump's America the stories are coming thick and fast at the Federal and the State level.  This one is something I suspect most of us saw coming.  But it likely won't get the attention it should.

I meant to post about this, too. Two years ago, I read stories about children/teens doing work they should not be doing, thanks to republicans. 

A local social media page, that covers local news, asked if the readers wanted them to talk about SignalGate, because it doesn't really affect us - except it does, because we are in the United States. There are the usual MAGA who say it's fake news, or doesn't matter, but I've just seen a few trump supporters stating, "I want you to cover it. I voted for trump, and this is an embarrassment. It affects everyone in the United States." So, some do have a line that can be crossed. 

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nokat

nokat

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10 minutes ago, Annber03 said:

That would require Trump to use his brain, though. And that's presuming he's got one, let alone a functioning one. 

I LOVE that message from the Guardian. Memo to the U.S. media, this is how you're supposed to respond to fascists. 

For some reason, smart people are scary, and probably putting tiny computers in vaccinations.  I read that on my iphone.  I can't use google for a recipe without it asking me for my location. I know it knows because it gave me five restaurants in my area./s I use Android.

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peacheslatour

peacheslatour

7 minutes ago, nokat said:

I had hoped we were better than this. Diving head first into fascism is not what I expected. I wasn't expecting to make history quite like this.

When Obama was elected the first time, I cried. I thought, finally, we've evolved as a country to the point that we can elect someone president purely on their merits. Not their skin color or their religiousness or how much money they have. I naively though that bigotry and hate had finally become a relic of America's sordid past. What a fool I was.

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Anela

Anela

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If trump had won in 2020, he would still be talking about "four more years" and riling up his voters. He didn't accept that he lost in 2020. Neither did his pet insurrectionists, or the rest of his loyal fans all over the country. And Biden's win actually *was* a mandate. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_United_States_presidential_election

Trump had 74,223,975 votes, Biden had 81,283,501.

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Eri

Eri

47 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

When Obama was elected the first time, I cried. I thought, finally, we've evolved as a country to the point that we can elect someone president purely on their merits. Not their skin color or their religiousness or how much money they have. I naively though that bigotry and hate had finally become a relic of America's sordid past. What a fool I was

Every day this administration is just a cure for imposter syndrome.

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EtheltoTillie

EtheltoTillie

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I encourage everyone to watch Jimmy Kimmel’s nightly monologue. He’s been doing a great job lately on these issues and showing great clips. Speaking of British reporting, he showed one of Marjorie Taylor Green talking about drag queens on PBS and showing her refusing to answer a BBC reporter’s question. I record it on DVR but it’s also on Hulu and YouTube next day. 

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tearknee

tearknee

4 minutes ago, EtheltoTillie said:

I encourage everyone to watch Jimmy Kimmel’s nightly monologue. He’s been doing a great job lately on these issues and showing great clips. Speaking of British reporting, he showed one of Marjorie Taylor Green talking about drag queens on PBS and showing her refusing to answer a BBC reporter’s question. I record it on DVR but it’s also on Hulu and YouTube next day. 

Can you put it on GD or wetransfer or dropbox. Certain expats are geoblocked.

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Anela

Anela

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2025/03/donald-trump-news-ice-immigration-student-rumeysa-ozturk.html

The New Video of Federal Agents Ambushing a Student and Disappearing With Her Should Chill You to Your Core
 

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Rumeysa Ozturk, a Ph.D. scholar on a student visa at Tufts University, was walking down a street in Somerville, Massachusetts, on Tuesday night to meet friends to break her Ramadan fast when a man in a dark hoodie and baseball cap crossed the street toward her. Chilling surveillance footage shows the moment he approaches: “Excuse me, ma’am,” he says politely, his tone disarming. Ozturk hesitates and tries to sidestep him. Another man in plainclothes appears across the street. One reaches for a radio. The other moves in. Watch, with the sound on:

One of the men goes for her phone. The other grabs at her hands. Ozturk screams. Shock and fear ripple through her voice. Two masked women join them, tugging at her backpack, peeling the straps from her shoulders. “I’m going somewhere, I need to call someone,” she pleads. “We’re the police. Relax,” one of the men says in response.

They surround her. Then, one by one, they pull their neck gaiters up to cover their faces. “You don’t look like police,” a voice off screen says. “Why are you hiding your faces?” The questions continue, but the figures don’t respond. Instead, they cuff Ozturk, cross the street, and put her in an unmarked SUV. She is gone.

The video is haunting. You can see Ozturk’s panic set in, and the clear impunity the agents feel in taking her and vanishing with no explanation. Just days after the Trump administration successfully pressured Columbia University to ban masks at campus demonstrations, these agents concealed their identities and arrived in an unmarked vehicle, asserting only that they were the authorities, period.

Ozturk’s lawyer later said she hadn’t been able to contact her and had no idea of her whereabouts; the New York Times reported she appeared to have been moved to a facility in central Louisiana, as with Mahmoud Khalil, whose own shadowy deportation case has been at the forefront of a constitutional crisis. (Khalil, a Columbia graduate and lawful permanent U.S. resident, was detained and accused—again without evidence—of supporting Hamas. His green card was revoked, and he was taken away from his eight-months-pregnant wife, a U.S. citizen. He too also briefly disappeared.)

It would be hard to believe this scene was happening in the United States if this was not the explicit and proud policy of the Trump administration. A Department of Homeland Security spokesperson later claimed Ozturk “engaged in activities in support of Hamas, a foreign terrorist organization.” The person said Ozturk, who is from Turkey, had had her student visa revoked.

To be perfectly clear, Ozturk is not accused of breaking the law. The Department of Homeland Security hasn’t bothered to explain its reasoning, but several outlets reported that Ozturk co-authored a student opinion piece urging Tufts to recognize the International Court of Justice’s declaration of a “plausible risk of genocide” unfolding in Gaza and to divest from Israel. You can read the article if you like.  It does not mention Hamas.

As a Muslim American, in moments like these, it feels like there isn’t much else left to say. The Trump administration is trying to normalize a disquieting new chapter of something that’s happened now for nearly three decades. In that time, we’ve watched our communities surveilled, detained, blacklisted, and interrogated under the guise of national security. After 9/11, hundreds of Muslim immigrants were swept up and held without charge—some in solitary confinement for months. The NYPD mapped our neighborhoods, infiltrated our mosques, spied on our student groups at places like Yale, Rutgers, and the University of Pennsylvania. (I once discovered it kept a file on me.) None of it produced a single terrorism lead. These stories don’t just vanish when the news cycle goes on. They remain with us, in a country where many of us were born but will always be viewed with suspicion. The message has been clear: The government will find a reason to come for us.

So when the campus protests began this fall, many of us knew what was coming. Anonymous organizations like Canary Mission have long targeted Muslim and pro-Palestinian students, building digital dossiers. These groups inflict fear on others by pretending to be afraid; they know this country has a long history of going along with arresting Muslims and asking questions later. It’s not officially confirmed that they groups coordinate directly with agencies like Immigration and Customs Enforcement or DHS, but there’s mounting evidence that their blacklists are being treated as informal intelligence sources. After an earlier Trump executive order on campus antisemitism in 2019, these groups began flooding the Department of Education with complaints about pro-Palestinian students. Universities have cited Canary Mission when launching investigations. According to the Times, Ozturk had begun reaching out to friends to remove any trace of her online once Canary Mission posted her information, fearing escalation. Her fears were clearly warranted.

By now, this shouldn’t feel like a surprise. But with Ozturk’s case—a brazen state abduction, in daylight, on video—it feels like a new threshold has been crossed. When the government rolls up on a young woman on the streets with no charges, no warning, no transparency, how else can you describe it? It doesn’t matter if you have a green card, a visa, or, maybe, any legal status at all. Each new case is pushing the limits of the law, and the Trump administration has already made it clear it doesn’t care if the courts try to stop what it’s doing. Most Muslims in America with any kind of public life have imagined themselves in this position. Before long, it might not just be us. Watch the video of this arrest again and ask if you can see yourself in it. Maybe it’s time to start.
 

 

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anony.miss

anony.miss

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Trump's America, where he's King of the Lady Eggs  (while having nothing to do with eggs at the grocery store):

"President Donald Trump claimed Wednesday he would be "known as the fertilization president." "We're going to have tremendous, tremendous goodies in the bag for women too, the women between the fertilization and all of the other things that we're talking about. It's going to be, it's going to be great....I'll be known as the fertilization president, that's not bad. I've been called much worse."

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-fertilization-president/

You've absolutely been called worse - felon, rapist and insurrectionist leap to mind - but have fun cosplaying Fertility Czar.

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Harvey

Harvey

10 hours ago, Annber03 said:

.For real, what does it have to take at this point? Why can't someone just go in there, slap the cuffs on EVERYONE. 

Because this really is what Republicans want. When in doubt, I like to check out political forum dot com, a website mostly occupied by Trumps  supporters.

They are very pleased with what he is doing and are not bothered by these recent events like the group chat leak. In fact they make all the excuses for the parties involved. 

A lot of people agree with everything Trump is doing and is interesting to see how they justify all of his actions. 

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tearknee

tearknee

5 hours ago, Anela said:

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2025/03/donald-trump-news-ice-immigration-student-rumeysa-ozturk.html

The New Video of Federal Agents Ambushing a Student and Disappearing With Her Should Chill You to Your Core
 

 

So, she's basically been taken to the Prinz-Albrecht-Strasse? (ironically, the real Hitler regime tried to make sure neutral Turkey stayed neutral)

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Annber03

Annber03

3 hours ago, Harvey said:

Because this really is what Republicans want. When in doubt, I like to check out political forum dot com, a website mostly occupied by Trumps  supporters.

They are very pleased with what he is doing and are not bothered by these recent events like the group chat leak. In fact they make all the excuses for the parties involved. 

A lot of people agree with everything Trump is doing and is interesting to see how they justify all of his actions. 

Oh, I know all that. Im not talking about them - it's beyond clear the GOP has completely given up any pretense of actually acting like a legitimate, reponsible political party by this point. 

No, I'm talking about , like, some military official who is absolutely PISSED at this whole leak, or some Democrat who knows this isn't an scenario where we can go through the usual process of removing people who abuse their power and commit illegal crimes , because of how incredibly brazen this scandal is, or something like that. I just want someone to throw thsee creeps out of here already, surely there's got to be grounds somewhere to allow for that, given the extreme circumstances here? 

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nokat

nokat

2 minutes ago, Annber03 said:

Oh, I know all that. Im not talking about them - it's beyond clear the GOP has completely given up any pretense of actually acting like a legitimate, reponsible political party by this point. 

No, I'm talking about , like, some military official who is absolutely PISSED at this whole leak, or some Democrat who knows this isn't an scenario where we can go through the usual process of removing people who abuse their power and commit illegal crimes , because of how incredibly brazen this scandal is, or something like that. I just want someone to throw thsee creeps out of here already, surely there's got to be grounds somewhere to allow for that, given the extreme circumstances here? 

I feel like we've been taken over by a really stupid mob. They don't know they're stupid, but we let them make decisions. 

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annzeepark914

annzeepark914

@bluegirl147 Re: President Obama's safety during his time in office? I think he (& we) were lucky nothing happened cause there sure were several attempts (& probably hundreds more that we don't know about). I can't recall any other time when so many people tried to get into the WH (one actually did) or shot at the WH (this happened while he & his family were living there). 

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Dimity

Dimity

35 minutes ago, bluegirl147 said:

I was not a McCain fan.  He might have called Trump out but I think it was because he didn't like Trump and not that he didn't like his policies. He gets credit for preventing the repeal of the ACA but he only voted against it because he didn't like how it was brought to the floor or something procedural like that. 

He wasn't suggesting that McCain was a closeted Democrat.  His point was he was no coward.  There have to be Republicans who disagree with Trump - even hate him - but they're too scared of him to raise their heads above the parapet.  It's pretty disgusting.  Adam Kinzinger said the same thing about himself and Liz Cheney.  He said they aren't heroes, they are people surrounded by cowards.

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tres bien

tres bien

Every decent person was appalled when Trump imitated a disabled reporter in 2016 but his fans cheered him on. So for MAGA world calling people stupid names or making fun of people is the standard behavior 

Over the weekend Rep Jasmine Crockett referred to TX Governor Gregg Abbott as “Governor Hot Wheels “ while speaking in Los Angeles at the Human Rights Campaign ‘25 dinner

When asked about her comment she denied she was referring to Abbott’s disability but was criticizing his use of transporting migrants from Texas to communities lead by Democrats 

No no no no no. Crockett needs to apologize. We’re not like them. We don’t make fun of people or call them stupid names and think it’s acceptable 

Of course MAGA’s are butt hurt and won’t take this lying down. A house republican Randy Weber has already introduced a resolution to censure Crockett

If something of importance that really deserves attention ever happens it flies under MAGA world’s attention because their too busy wasting their time on the idiotic 

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Harvey

Harvey

2 hours ago, Annber03 said:

No, I'm talking about , like, some military official who is absolutely PISSED at this whole leak, or some Democrat who knows this isn't an scenario where we can go through the usual process of removing people who abuse their power and commit illegal crimes

Looking at the military subreddit, it seems most are on Trump's side mainly because he is against trans people and immigrants.

It seems like there is a lot of leeway for any administration as long as they are openly for taking away the rights of migrants and those who want to use they / them pronouns.

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