S08.E06: Confessions

[Snazzy Daisy]

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When a toddler falls down a pipe and becomes trapped, the 118 must rely on more than their skills to rescue him.

Meanwhile, old wounds are opened when members of the 118 race to the aid of a man dealing with a divorce.

Air Date: Nov 07, 2024

 

[Snazzy Daisy]

[possibilities]

Cap any open pipes, people! You don't want your kid, cat, dog, or anybody else in the septic system. I was also wondering why they didn't send a rope with a handle down to the kid immediately.

Eddie dancing was the first time I've liked him in a while. Cringy but still fun.

I actually like the way they are handling the Tommy-Buck story. I don't consider Glee to be the cultural dividing line, but there really is a HUGE difference between the experiences of people who come from different timelines in terms of coming out. I like that theya re talking about that. 

I also really get what Tommy was saying. A lot of us don't trust the seriousness of commitment of newly out people, because of a lot of experience with, as Tommy says, how that ends. Even when the feelings are sincere, a lot of the time we get burned because there's just a really big difference in how stable those feelings are, as people are sometimes reassessing everything, even if they don't realize it at first. Not always, of course. But often enough that it bears caution. 

They packed a lot of stories into this episode. The vase, the "evisceration," Eddie's recovery, Buck/Tommy, the kid in the pipe, and Chim/Maddy having another kid. That's a lot, but it seemed they had room for all of it.

[Whodunnit]

What's with all the downer episodes today? On this show we had a break up, on another a drug relapse, and on a third there was a suicide. Yikes!

Also this is the second time in as many days where a character in a show was literally spilling their guts out (This is called a prolapse, I had a pet go through that and it was a terrifying experience but she survived!)

[agathapenny]

Wow, poor Buck. Basically Tommy told him he wasn't worth taking a chance on and the whole thing has just been a bit of fun for him, while Buck's been taking it seriously. Finding out you're the only one taking a relationship seriously sucks. One would expect after six months that someone was really in it. Asshole move by Tommy, no matter that it is at least somewhat understandable (Tommy not wanting to get burned). Both sides of Tommy/Abby dumped him in horrible ways. And he didn't even seem sad, the jerk.

The really incredibly sad thing is that Tommy just teated him like a himbo, too. My heart broke for Buck.

Loved Josh, though.

I'm just not remotely interested in Maddie/Chimney wanting to have another baby. It's just not something I relate to on any level — no matter how good an actor I find Kenneth Choi.

The intestines coming out of that guy was disgusting, and I'm not normally squeamish.

Yay! Eddie got rid of the stache! And geeking out dancing a la Risky Business had me smiling. I was really over Eddie punishing himself. The priest totally did sound like he was delivering a pickup line LOL. Liked the continuity of it being the same one that has talked to Bobby. 

Loved Buck heading over to Eddie's to commiserate in his heartbreak. Even if they are never anything more than friends on the show they really are family and have each other's backs. It's really nice to see a positive relationship between two men.

Edited November 8 by agathapenny

[buttersister]

Thank you for getting rid of that horrible mustache.

[Whodunnit]

3 hours ago, agathapenny said:

The really incredibly sad thing is that Tommy just teated him like a himbo, too. My heart broke for Buck.

Buck once told Ravi that women run from him. The truth is that none of the women he's dated seemed to have been interested in something long term with him--treating him like a himbo--which is sad. I don't understand how you can be with someone for months doing all of the coupley things and fail to understand that your significant other is interested in officially deepening the relationship.

And really, this is a relationship where their second date was Buck's sister's wedding--there's nothing casual about that.

[Whodunnit]

I really hope that this doesn't lead to a backslide and Buck going on random hookups on Grindr or whatever.

[Madding crowd]

There is no way the fire department would have let that little boy go down into that pipe, he could have been injured and the family would sue . I did like Eddie’s story but it was weird for the priest to just sit with him at the park or wherever they were. Poor Buck!

[Irlandesa]

IMO, I think Tommy looked hurt and sad.  I think he made the wrong choice but it felt like it came from being in similar positions where he did get hurt. I think what made him reach the decision he did was Buck's asking Tommy to move in with him which was quite a leap for where they were in their relationship. That's a serious step that Buck probably didn't take into serious consideration.  

And unlike Abby, he didn't leave Buck hanging so I don't see the comparison.

But I'm biased, I grew to love them, especially after last week. Tommy was my favorite partner of Buck's. If they wanted Buck to date around, I would have preferred that to be the avenue with which Buck discovered his bisexuality instead of giving me enough to care. 

To add insult to injury, they could have used earlier in the episode to actually build up to the breakup.  Instead, they threw in what, up to now, had only been a crazy fan theory that Tommy was Abby's Tommy.  None of what they wrote when Abby was pursuing Buck aligns with her being familiar with the 118 which she would have been had she been with Tommy for 2 years.  It's the kind of thing that should have made the writer laugh and then ignore, not go, "Brilliant idea!"

And it might just be this week, but I'm exhausted. Other than Karen, they seem to find it difficult to write about non-main love interests. I feel deflated that they ended one of the better ones. 

But it's not just that.  It's annoying that the two couples of child-rearing ages are constantly enmeshed in stories about their children.  Hen and Karen have had so many foster-drama stories.  And now, they're doing a second pregnancy story with Madney. 

I did like the divorce storyline, especially that the husband had a little tell when he was lying.

[agathapenny]

7 hours ago, Whodunnit said:

Buck once told Ravi that women run from him. The truth is that none of the women he's dated seemed to have been interested in something long term with him--treating him like a himbo--which is sad. I don't understand how you can be with someone for months doing all of the coupley things and fail to understand that your significant other is interested in officially deepening the relationship.

And really, this is a relationship where their second date was Buck's sister's wedding--there's nothing casual about that.

I couldn't agree more. In this episode alone we had Tommy remembering that it was their 6-month anniversary and getting him a gift. Why wouldn't Buck think Tommy was serious about him? Even if he wasn't ready to move in, or wanted to be cautious because he's been burned by the recently-out before, he certainly gave Buck every impression he was in it for the long-term. 

And let's face it, Buck took a big risk on him as well, wanting to be with him enough to explore a whole other side to his sexuality and announce that to the world. And basically Tommy was just playing around! What a horrible thing to do to someone. It's not like he wouldn't have known Buck was invested. Buck wears his heart on his sleeve. 

I'd be disappointed because of the character's personal journey that we've witnessed over the years, but it wouldn't surprise me if Buck spiralled out, going back to meaningless sex for a time, since that's all the two most important relationships in his life (Tommy and Abby) treated him like he was good for — just a good time for a while until they found the real thing.

It has always made me hate Abby that she not only didn't have the care to actually break up with Buck, when she knew he was waiting for her, but when they finally got "closure" after the train derailment she still didn't have the decency to utter the words "I'm sorry". 

Edited November 8 by agathapenny

[iMonrey]

The guts spilling out of the stomach - they did the exact same thing on Chicago Fire this week. Strange coincidence. 

As far as I know, Jennifer Love Hewitt is not pregnant again in real life. In fact she seems to have lost some of the baby weight she had been carrying last season. Which is why I find it odd they would make her character pregnant again now. 

2 hours ago, Irlandesa said:

It's annoying that the two couples of child-rearing ages are constantly enmeshed in stories about their children. 

Agreed. I'm surprised it wasn't one of Hen and Karen's kids that fell down the drain pipe. They seem to be on the verge of losing a kid every other week. 

I wish the priest had told Eddie to march his ass straight to Texas and get his damn kid and bring him home. I don't know why Eddie thinks keeping his distance is going to fix anything.

I don't know what to think about Buck and Tommy. I can see both sides of it. I'm not convinced it's over though.

[Crashcourse]

I cracked up when the asshole husband tripped and broke the vase.   

[possibilities]

I thought Tommy was serious. But when Buck started the move in with me talk, he realized that it was not a seriously thought out proposal, and was a reversion to Buck not really thinking about consequences.

Tommy said he wanted it to last but he was afraid to get his heart broken again. I think that means he does want more than a fling with Buck, but he wasn't born yesterday and he has seen how this usually plays out.

I think straight people underestimate the number of times a newly out person breaks the heart of a confirmed queer (or Kinsey 6, as Tommy self-defined) as soon as it sinks in how the world will treat them if they do something like move in.

Right now, Buck is in a bubble of new relationship excitement, and the full implications of a committment have not sunk in. It was just moments before that Buck had to be told by -- I forget the name of the guy at the call center-- that Buck's own experience is not comparable to what Tommy is experiencing. I think Buck was trying to reassure Tommy by asking him to move in-- but he was still not listening. He wanted Tommy to MOVE IN WITH HIM-- he didn't say "let's move in together" [which is a more egalitarian way to approach this, and does not presume Tommy gives up his own life to graft onto Buck's] or "I want to marry you" or "I want you to know I'm very serious and will work harder to understand what this has been like for you, instead of panicking when I hear something that alarms me, like what happened with Abby".

He did not say: "I am going to make it my business to learn more about what it was like for you to figure this stuff out in an unsupportive environment and if you have concerns about our differences in life experience or other issues between us, I want let you know that I do care very much about not breaking your heart and I hope you will talk to me about what you are feeling or worrying about." 

Buck is sweet but he's also clueless and still doesn't understand. 

I had hoped the break up would not be a final break up, but more of a wake up call for Buck. I don't want him to go back to being a himbo. If the showrunners are putting out something like that, I'm not looking forward to it. I would rather see him go deeper into understanding the culture and not just his own feelings, and I think that could actually make the future potential of a Buck-Tommy relationship stronger.

I'm gobsmacked that people think a 6 month dating relationship is an obvious commitment. What? I thought it was only us lesbians who  are joked about moving in together too soon. Maybe I'm just out of touch with current norms for the young'uns.

[michelec]

11 hours ago, agathapenny said:

Wow, poor Buck. Basically Tommy told him he wasn't worth taking a chance on and the whole thing has just been a bit of fun for him, while Buck's been taking it seriously. Finding out you're the only one taking a relationship seriously sucks. One would expect after six months that someone was really in it. Asshole move by Tommy, no matter that it is at least somewhat understandable (Tommy not wanting to get burned). Both sides of Tommy/Abby dumped him in horrible ways. And he didn't even seem sad, the jerk.

The really incredibly sad thing is that Tommy just teated him like a himbo, too. My heart broke for Buck.

This made me so incredibly sad. Why didn't Tommy just say that he wasn't ready to take that step and that they should keep the status quo a while longer, instead of just blowing up the relationship altogether? By preemptively protecting his heart he ripped out Buck's and stomped on it.

[fastiller]

17 minutes ago, Crashcourse said:

I cracked up when the asshole husband tripped and broke the vase.   

Much like the vase/urn!  (I'll see myself out.)

[Irlandesa]

51 minutes ago, iMonrey said:

As far as I know, Jennifer Love Hewitt is not pregnant again in real life. In fact she seems to have lost some of the baby weight she had been carrying last season. Which is why I find it odd they would make her character pregnant again now. 

I think I read an interview that JLH was interested in telling a similar story to hers since she had a baby after 40.

But considering they basically had nothing last year, I get why she might want to do it as at least it's something. 

2 hours ago, agathapenny said:

And let's face it, Buck took a big risk on him as well, wanting to be with him enough to explore a whole other side to his sexuality and announce that to the world.

You're framing this as if Buck living his authentic life as a bi guy was done for Tommy's benefit.   It wasn't. Buck took the risk because he realized he was attracted to men.

[lorbeer]

Maddie watched Glee when she didn't even knew about House (back on season 2)? I hardly believe that.

I think that since they moved to abc the storylines became ridiculous and not in a fun way. They've always been over the top but not totally nonsensical. And now for the two episodes in the raw we have incompetent Bobby - letting Hen taking medical care of her child and letting a child(!!) going to that pipe is so out of character for him. And that street blood transfusion last episode... Is like they decided to be Greys anatomy and again - not in a fun way.

Thank goodness they got rid off that horrible mustache.

[Snazzy Daisy]

Josh gives a good “Glee” speech, very eye opening for Buck.

I love Eddie’s Risky Business sequence and Buck sitting on the couch, not asking why his best buddy is pantless. 😆

Our dancing queen! 💙

 

Edited November 8 by Snazzy Daisy

[kwnyc]

I think that Eddie dancing to Risky Business was fan service, and I consider myself serviced!

Also, that priest was definitely hitting on him. It's not really Catholic protocol to stalk a guy from the confessional until you find him and force him to confront himself. 

Now fucking go get Christopher, Eddie. 

And I almost laughed out loud when the 118 decided to save a child in serious danger by putting another child in serious danger. However, how cute was it when Cap referred to himself as "Captain Bobby?"

And I have decided to treat Buck as a human golden retriever. So pretty, so dumb. It almost felt like a call back to when he asked Taylor to move in with him. What's his relationship with Taylor his longest and most successful? 

Also, did he ever get a couch? 

I thought the pregnancy story line was well acted and Chim and Maddie continue to grow as a couple.

 

[agathapenny]

8 hours ago, michelec said:

This made me so incredibly sad. Why didn't Tommy just say that he wasn't ready to take that step and that they should keep the status quo a while longer, instead of just blowing up the relationship altogether? By preemptively protecting his heart he ripped out Buck's and stomped on it.

And don't you just love it when someone else decides how you feel for you? And tells you what you're actually feeling isn't real, because he knows better? Jerk.

 

7 hours ago, Irlandesa said:

You're framing this as if Buck living his authentic life as a bi guy was done for Tommy's benefit.   It wasn't. Buck took the risk because he realized he was attracted to men.

But he didn't just realize he's also attracted to men, he realized that he was attracted to Tommy, specifically, and enough that he realized he's bi. I'm not for a minute saying he's only attracted to Tommy, but Tommy was absolutely the reason for his awakening, and Buck liked him enough to accept his attraction and act on it. Buck took a chance on a totally different kind of relationship and exploring a new side to himself and Tommy wasn't willing to take any kind of risk at all, apparently. 

[agathapenny]

10 hours ago, possibilities said:

I thought Tommy was serious. But when Buck started the move in with me talk, he realized that it was not a seriously thought out proposal, and was a reversion to Buck not really thinking about consequences.

Tommy said he wanted it to last but he was afraid to get his heart broken again. I think that means he does want more than a fling with Buck, but he wasn't born yesterday and he has seen how this usually plays out.

All Tommy had to do was tell Buck that he didn't think they were at the move in stage of the relationship yet, if he was serious, which I don't think he was. I think he even admitted it with saying he hasn't let himself invest anything in the relationship because he's too afraid to have his heart broken. And Buck was invested in the relationship, the man wears his heart on his sleeve, so there's no way Tommy didn't know that. You can't really get around the fact that Tommy basically admitted he was just having no-strings fun and didn't see Buck as anything long-term.

10 hours ago, possibilities said:

I think straight people underestimate the number of times a newly out person breaks the heart of a confirmed queer (or Kinsey 6, as Tommy self-defined) as soon as it sinks in how the world will treat them if they do something like move in.

That doesn't give anyone the right to hurt someone else and try to invalidate their feelings, the way Tommy did here. 

10 hours ago, possibilities said:

I'm gobsmacked that people think a 6 month dating relationship is an obvious commitment. What? I thought it was only us lesbians who  are joked about moving in together too soon. Maybe I'm just out of touch with current norms for the young'uns.

I'm not a young-un but a six month exclusive dating relationship is enough to have some expectations of the other person. In no way do I think they were ready to live together, but it wasn't out of line for Buck to think the relationship was going somewhere. Buck is impulsive about pretty much everything and always will be, it's one of his defining (and usually endearing) qualities, but it can get him into trouble.

Edited November 9 by agathapenny

[marceline]

20 hours ago, Whodunnit said:

The truth is that none of the women he's dated seemed to have been interested in something long term with him--treating him like a himbo--which is sad.

Taylor moved in with him. She was absolutely in it for the long-term. And once she gave up her lease on her apartment, that's when Buck decided to tell her about kissing Lucy. When she had nowhere else to go.

That's when I started hating Buck.

Tommy can do better.

[dancingdreamer]

Eddie's  dancing  was everything,  I loved it.

Bucks face after talking  with Tommy,  was both sad and confused.

Back to Eddie's  dancing. ;-)

[andromeda331]

Of course Chimeny sees one brother saving the other's life and decides he wants a second kid. I wonder if he would have thought the same thing if he saw two siblings beating the crap out of each other.

I do like that he brought up his concerns with Maddie about what happened last time. They talked about it and then again at the end. 

I really didn't expect Tommy to dump Buck. That stinks. 

[agathapenny]

11 hours ago, marceline said:

Taylor moved in with him. She was absolutely in it for the long-term. And once she gave up her lease on her apartment, that's when Buck decided to tell her about kissing Lucy. When she had nowhere else to go.

That's when I started hating Buck.

Tommy can do better.

Because there are no hotels or anywhere else to rent in the entire city of Los Angeles, lol.

But seriously, that was an absolutely crappy thing for Buck to do and I was not on his side with that decision. But he was also serious about that relationship: see the two of them giving it a real shot, even though it didn't work out in the end.

Likewise Tommy did a sh***y thing to Buck and I'm not on his side.

And the thing is, Tommy could totally break up with Buck because they're not on the same page about where the relationship was going. That legitimately happens all the time. What I really didn't like was that he didn't say it was because he didn't want anything serious, he told Buck it was because Buck's feeling weren't really real because he hadn't been out long enough (and presumably had enough relationships with men to have valid feelings? How many relationships does he have to have with men until his feelings are allowed to be real?) That verges on gaslighting (I want out of the relationship but I'm going to make it your fault). He never saw the relationship as having the potential to be serious but he led Buck on for six months because he was having fun.

And I've officially thought about this way too much.

Edited November 9 by agathapenny

[Irlandesa]

19 hours ago, kwnyc said:

It almost felt like a call back to when he asked Taylor to move in with him. What's his relationship with Taylor his longest and most successful? 

Also, did he ever get a couch? 

At least this move-in ask wasn't coming from guilt.  He did get a couch.  Tommy slept on it last week when he was taking care of Buck. 

13 hours ago, agathapenny said:

You can't really get around the fact that Tommy basically admitted he was just having no-strings fun and didn't see Buck as anything long-term.

Tommy's reasoning can be weak and wrong but it can also come from legitimate fear and sadness.  I don't think many people buy their 'no strings attached' partners 6-month anniversary gifts.

8 hours ago, andromeda331 said:

I do like that he brought up his concerns with Maddie about what happened last time. They talked about it and then again at the end.

Yeah.  I don't want to relive a PPD story.  Luckily, JLH isn't pregnant this time so she won't need a time off. 

 

[iMonrey]

I see Tommy's side. I'm not saying he's right, but I don't know if there's a quantifiable "right" or "wrong" in this situation when it's all about the feels. Tommy and Buck are in very different places, just in life in general. I take it that Tommy didn't realize how serious Buck was until he asked him to move in. I just think that spooked Tommy and he wanted to back away before he ended up getting his heart broken. It's a pretty natural defensive reaction. 

Tommy had the same reaction after their first date. He didn't think Buck was really ready for this. Maybe it's not over for good but I can understand why Tommy would want to step on the brakes.

[possibilities]

If Buck does fuck around for a while, and then goes back to Tommy, maybe Tommy will believe he's not just playing. Or, for that matter, if Buck does NOT fuck around, and goes back to Tommy, that could also show some seriousness.

I don't think he gaslit anybody. He said he was afraid. He said it was because of how often this happens, and he can't risk it.

It's like the rule about not dating anyone who's only been in recovery from alcoholism for a second. You need to see if they can stay the course. A lot of the time, people get drunk with excitment and act like teenagers, because of everything they missed when they WERE teenagers. Believe me-- growing up queer, especially in an unsafe time or place, you absolutely do not get certain experiences that straight kids take for granted, and when you finally get to a safe place to express and connect, it can feel like a tidal wave and you aren't thinking clearly about all the details. 

Tommy has a right to protect himself from that, BECAUSE his feelings are serious and stable and sober and matured. It isn't disrespectful of Buck, it's just trauma from past experiences. And Tommy owned that. He said how much he digs Buck, but how he's terrified. If Buck can't hear that in a respectful way, and mmakes it all about his ego, he absoiolutely is not a good partner for Tommy and should go find a himbo to screw.

[Quark]

I felt terrible for Buck when Tommy broke up with him. I thought they were a very good match. I suppose they could always get back together.

Eddie dancing is probably the most I've ever liked him. It helps that he shaved the moustache.

Did anyone else think when Eddie opened the door, Buck and Eddie were going to do the deed?

[Crashcourse]

41 minutes ago, Quark said:

Did anyone else think when Eddie opened the door, Buck and Eddie were going to do the deed?

I did.

[possibilities]

I would not answer the door without putting pants on first, so I get why people would think that. I took it as baiting the audience, but didn't really think it would happen. I guess we'll know for sure at the next episode.

[iMonrey]

16 hours ago, possibilities said:

I would not answer the door without putting pants on first, so I get why people would think that. I took it as baiting the audience, but didn't really think it would happen. I guess we'll know for sure at the next episode.

I don't think the show will ever go there, but they are definitely still trolling us.

[Whodunnit]

It's true, Taylor did try to move in with him. I should not have talked in absolutes, because there is that one exception and life rarely gives us absolutes. My bad.

I don't think Tommy is a boring person. Very clearly Buck didn't think so either. And sure, after the rush of that early experience things can fade a bit.

However, because relationships are always evolving and people are complex creatures, plenty of people (particularly the ones with creative minds) find enough novel content within their relationships to never get bored and then grow resentful out of FOMO (i.e. Tommy's fear). That said, some people are inclined to cheat no matter what. 

I don't know whether Tommy knows about what happened with Taylor and Lucy; that is, whether a drunken kiss from  several years ago colored his perception of the possibility of Buck cheating. If he did it might explain some of his behavior.

Unfortunately, a lot of their relationship happened off screen because this is an ensemble show with lots of characters so we are required to intuit a lot.

[Whodunnit]

On another note, sending one kid after another was absolutely begging for a lawsuit and not something that would ever happen in the real world for that reason. But it's clear that it was done for plot reasons so that Chimney could *Learn A Very Important Lesson.™ 

[Whodunnit]

One of the things that I learned from both Ally and the Taylor relationship is that only a first responder could make Buck happy. He seems to need someone who understands that firefighting is a priority for him.

[Irlandesa]

On 11/10/2024 at 3:01 PM, Quark said:

Did anyone else think when Eddie opened the door, Buck and Eddie were going to do the deed?

Nope.

5 hours ago, iMonrey said:

I don't think the show will ever go there, but they are definitely still trolling us.

I don't exactly trust myself to interpret anything on this show because I've gotten things wrong when I don't think they'll do nonsense and then they choose nonsense. 

But they had Eddie say he was straight in this episode and reading a woman's swimsuit magazine in the last episode.  So either they're doing some double-cross voodoo (which I know some fans think they're doing--introducing his straightness to later combat his straightness) or they're trying to tell the audience who thinks he might be gay that it's not happening. 

2 hours ago, Whodunnit said:

I don't know whether Tommy knows about what happened with Taylor and Lucy; that is, whether a drunken kiss from  several years ago colored his perception of the possibility of Buck cheating. If he did it might explain some of his behavior.

He does work with Lucy but they never showed us talking about Buck's past with her.

[iMonrey]

16 hours ago, Irlandesa said:

But they had Eddie say he was straight in this episode and reading a woman's swimsuit magazine in the last episode.  So either they're doing some double-cross voodoo (which I know some fans think they're doing--introducing his straightness to later combat his straightness) or they're trying to tell the audience who thinks he might be gay that it's not happening. 

The show wants to have its cake and eat it too. They don't actually want an Eddie and Buck hookup but they do want to keep feeding the slash fandom of that idea. 

[tennisgurl]

I'm sad to see Tommy and Buck end like this, although its hilarious that Abbey is managing to screw Buck up even though its been years since he has even seen her in person. I think that Tommy made a bad call dumping Buck, he could have very easily just told Buck that moving in together was moving too fast for him but he still wanted to be with him, but at least he actually broke up with him instead of ghosting him for months (years?) after leaving town knowing he was in love with her and waiting for her to come back. It sucks that Tommy ditched Buck for what might happen in the future even if they're doing well now, but what Abbey did was way worse. 

It especially sucks because their relationship hardly even got time to develop as it was happening in the middle of all the stupid evil congresswoman/wife clone drama. Also, the show knows exactly what its doing with Buck and Eddie now, they were absolutely teasing the shippers when Buck came over after being dumped. Nothing romantic will ever happen, but they are definitely playing to that part of the fanbase. 

Josh's speech about how coming out in previous years is different than coming out now was really good, plus I love how much Josh is loving getting the tea about all of the never ending drama that the main characters get into. 

Finally, the evil is defeated! The mustache is gone! Now Eddie just needs to stop pouting and go to Texas to get Christopher! 

Do we really need another baby/pregnancy story on this show? I guess its at least better than some new villain showing up out of nowhere to screw with the leads. 

[Irlandesa]

5 hours ago, tennisgurl said:

Do we really need another baby/pregnancy story on this show? I guess its at least better than some new villain showing up out of nowhere to screw with the leads.

There's another sequel to I Know What You Did Last Summer going into production soon to be released next summer and JLH is in talks to return to the franchise.  If she does, it'll likely be in production at the same time as 911.  I don't know if this is the reason Maddie is getting a pregnancy story but it'd be pretty convenient as a reason she's not at work for a few episodes. 

[agathapenny]

15 hours ago, iMonrey said:

The show wants to have its cake and eat it too. They don't actually want an Eddie and Buck hookup but they do want to keep feeding the slash fandom of that idea. 

As much as I would love for them to be brave enough to actually do an Eddie/Buck romance, I sadly agree with you. But as one of those fans who'd love to see them together, I'm happy with the slightly ambiguous bones they keep throwing us, lol, so they're doing a good job, I guess. I think the only way we'd ever get any kind of Buck/Eddie romance for real is in the final scene as the show fades to black forever.

That all said, I enjoy watching their friendship as it is. (And for goodness sake, can we please get Eddie a decent storyline? The whole doppelgänger thing was the dumbest story this show has ever done.)

[Bruinsfan]

On 11/11/2024 at 1:10 PM, Whodunnit said:

However, because relationships are always evolving and people are complex creatures, plenty of people (particularly the ones with creative minds) find enough novel content within their relationships to never get bored and then grow resentful out of FOMO (i.e. Tommy's fear). That said, some people are inclined to cheat no matter what. 

There's also the matter of most bisexual men eventually settling down in long-term relationships with women (something like 89% in the most recent survey I read). Tommy has good reason to be guarded even if we know Buck is sincere about their relationship. I can say from experience, it's no fun to be dropped like a hot potato because someone decides he's at the right age/stage in life to get serious and that can only happen with a woman.

[andromeda331]

On 11/12/2024 at 9:24 AM, iMonrey said:

The show wants to have its cake and eat it too. They don't actually want an Eddie and Buck hookup but they do want to keep feeding the slash fandom of that idea. 

Rizzoli and Isles use to do that too. Maura and Jane were perfect for each other and had more chemistry together then any guy either woman ever dated. But they'd never go there. But they would tease it. 

I think I'd understand Tommy's position if he hadn't just given Buck a six month anniversary gift. That pretty serious even if he wasn't ready to move in. Why do that if he wanted to be casual or was less serious then Buck or was worrying about being Buck's first.

[Quark]

Forgetting the way it looked visually, Buck and Eddie were both in very emotional places when Buck knocked on his door. Who knows what could have happened as a result.

[eel2178]

On 11/7/2024 at 7:55 PM, possibilities said:

Eddie dancing was the first time I've liked him in a while. Cringy but still fun.

Still, I didn't need to see the way he filled out his tighty whities. Tom Cruise didn't have that problem.

[marceline]

On 11/11/2024 at 6:36 PM, Irlandesa said:

Nope.

I don't exactly trust myself to interpret anything on this show because I've gotten things wrong when I don't think they'll do nonsense and then they choose nonsense. 

But they had Eddie say he was straight in this episode and reading a woman's swimsuit magazine in the last episode.  So either they're doing some double-cross voodoo (which I know some fans think they're doing--introducing his straightness to later combat his straightness) or they're trying to tell the audience who thinks he might be gay that it's not happening. 

He does work with Lucy but they never showed us talking about Buck's past with her.

This. Eddie has never been portrayed as anything but straight. He's a secure, straight man comfortable in his sexuality who sees Buck as family not romance and I'm grateful for this healthy friendship between men. We need more of that on TV.

Edited November 19 by marceline

[kwnyc]

This show is refreshingly good about friendships between people of every kind. What makes it work, for me, is that the core group is basically an extended family and no one questions whether people deserve to be members of it.

[fastiller]

19 minutes ago, kwnyc said:

This show is refreshingly good about friendships between people of every kind. What makes it work, for me, is that the core group is basically an extended family and no one questions whether people deserve to be members of it.

@kwnyc- agreed!  This 'found family' is very well presented.  I've mentioned elsewhere how much I like the Abby/Buck relationship.  Like, they're siblings who are allowed to worry about one another in equal measure.  Just like adult siblings should do.

[FirkeyZeldaX]

This episode is so much fun!!!

[Dirge]

On 11/8/2024 at 8:50 AM, iMonrey said:

 As far as I know, Jennifer Love Hewitt is not pregnant again in real life. In fact she seems to have lost some of the baby weight she had been carrying last season. Which is why I find it odd they would make her character pregnant again now. 

I actually looked up whether she's pregnant (as far as I can tell, no) because of the way the show kept covering her up -- the way she put a pillow on her lap when she sat up in bed to talk to Chim, particularly, but she had something in front of her in every scene. I wondered if they were hiding it because she shouldn't have been pregnant yet, plotwise. But now I think they did it so they could fast-forward the story a bit, and we wouldn't see how NOT pregnant she is. 

Well played, show! 

On 11/8/2024 at 9:04 PM, marceline said:

Taylor moved in with him. She was absolutely in it for the long-term. And once she gave up her lease on her apartment, that's when Buck decided to tell her about kissing Lucy. When she had nowhere else to go.

This is just where my mind went - is it safe to give up your apartment and move in with Buck? To someone's point that there are hotels and apartments in Los Angeles - yes, but even renters have a hard time getting back into the market. I've been in my northern California apartment for 14 years and I pay $700 a month less than someone moving in today would have to pay. Not to mention deposits. 

My favorite part was Josh announcing his dramatic exit and Maddie asking Buck incredulously "You didn't watch Glee?"