S47.E03: Belly of the Beast

[Jobiska]

On 10/3/2024 at 3:18 PM, Andyourlittledog2 said:

JJ on Good Times. Now that you said that I can't stop seeing it.

Not to me at all, because he has a long face and JJ had a round face, which is the very first thing my brain notices about people, though their extra broad grins are similar.  He has the same long face and red outfit (heh) as the current iteration of Jake from State Farm, though.

So because Rome suggested to Sol that Sol draw the continent, and then did it himself, Rome has shown Sol that he voted for Asia.  (I assume he only did one vote--don't remember how long his steal a vote was good for?)

Elsbeth is checking whether Jeff has dropped his balls, I guess.

Edited October 4 by Jobiska

[astrohip]

23 hours ago, PaperTree said:

If the water is over your head, it doesn't matter how deep it is😎

Actually, it kinda does. Psychologically.

Think of it like having to walk a narrow plank over a gorge. If you had a wide bridge, and someone painted a one foot wide line down the middle, you could walk it easy, and never step outside the line. But if it's a one foot wide plank, walking it becomes terrifying, and you can barely make it, if at all. 

Same thing with water. If it's eight feet deep, and you're 5'8", it's over your head, but not that scary. If it's 100' deep, it's scary.

 

5 hours ago, meep.meep said:

I'm with you on the Sheesh!  But the bamboo has a very simple explanation:  they are in the exact same place season after season and the previous contestants cut it down.  If they were to leave Fiji and move to Samoa, for example, they'd be back to cutting their own.

Jeff said on one of the podcasts that they provide bamboo now. He also said they move camps every season. They have to, to keep from environmentally destroying any specific spot, and give them a chance to regenerate between seasons.

 

[HappyDancex2]

I still long for the days of old challenges that were brains, brawn or fortitude…luck of the draw.  At least mix them in.  With puzzles and rolly ball in the holes being the ending of so many challenges rarely is the physicality of the first part of the challenge as big as it should/could be.  Only if a person seems to dominate does it lead to something.

I absolutely am terrible at those 3d cube stacking puzzles and slide puzzles.  I would have been ok with the seahorse format.  Some of the stuff is trainable but it seems sucky for it to come down to that.  Every time anyway.

sues mascara running threw me off.  What an awful personal item.  I noticed a lot of players legs were scraped up and had tons of bites on them already.  That would be awful.  Also eating 1/100 of a grilled neon tetra LOL

[Nashville]

8 hours ago, astrohip said:

Jeff said on one of the podcasts that they provide bamboo now. 

I’ve been pretty certain for years that recycling a base amount of already-cut bamboo for the camps’ use would have to be boilerplate in TPTB’s contract with the Fijian government, else multiple seasons would inflict significant deforestation damage to the islands’ respective bamboo groves.

ETA: There’s nothing stopping Production from making it difficult on them, though - like, say, scattering the bamboo willy-nilly throughout the brush.  Anything to make the bamboo collection as little as possible like a trip to Home Depot, is what I’m shooting at….

Edited October 5 by Nashville

[ChiCricket]

On 10/3/2024 at 6:50 AM, violet and green said:

Rome is obviously very trying to live with - but I enjoy his toothy confessionals. He reminds me of someone from the past, but I can't place it.

Yes!

On 10/3/2024 at 2:18 PM, Andyourlittledog2 said:

JJ on Good Times. Now that you said that I can't stop seeing it.

Ditto

[snarts]

My issues with the "new era" Survivor are not related the season length, redundant challenges or even the camera preening contestants. It's all the various idols, beware advantages, journeys, etc. It's overkill IMHO and it makes the show difficult to follow, let alone play. 

For once, I'd love to them eliminate all of them without telling the contestants and have a season without any idols or advantages. Just a straight social experience. Oh, and starting with only two tribes as well.

Finally, I know Jeff wants to the star but tribal council takes up way too much of each episode. We're often left surprised by how the voting goes down because they don't show enough of the strategizing that occurred in advance at camp.

[iMonrey]

1 hour ago, snarts said:

Finally, I know Jeff wants to the star but tribal council takes up way too much of each episode.

Yeah, I have to hit the Fast Forward on most of Jeff sitting there playing Dr. Phil like he thinks he still has a talk show. And I'm so tired of him saying over and over that Survivor is a "social experiment." We're 47 seasons into this thing, the experiment part is long over. It's like saying shampoo and rinse is a hair experiment. Not after you've done it a thousand times.

[Diana Berry]

Rome and his talking head confessionals are making this season watchable that and Andy’s beautiful teeth.

[millennium]

I remember way back when Survivor used to be accused of racism because of the show's practice of casting only bitchy/problematic black women.   I think they're doing the same thing again, except this time by casting insufferable young black men.

[Rodney]

On 10/2/2024 at 10:43 PM, dancingdreamer said:

I'm not a fan of Rome, but he was right, someone else boiling a pot of water would have been nice, instead of talking about how small the fish were.

Didn't give him the right to eat half of their catch, though.

[dancingdreamer]

3 hours ago, Rodney said:

Didn't give him the right to eat half of their catch, though.

I didn't think that was a rule, maybe  when, or if,  they vote him out for that reason, he'll  maybe  think of that .

[Notabug]

44 minutes ago, dancingdreamer said:

I didn't think that was a rule, maybe  when, or if,  they vote him out for that reason, he'll  maybe  think of that .

Wasn't Rome the one who caught all the fish while the rest waited on the beach?  If so, expecting him to share equally was a bit presumptuous on their part.

[Nashville]

4 hours ago, Rodney said:

Didn't give him the right to eat half of their catch, though.

Not a Rome fan by any means, but “their” implies some degree of communal interaction - or plural, at the very least.  Between…

1. Catching the fish
2. Cleaning the fish
3. Cooking the fish
4. Eating the fish

…please indicate ANY offer of interaction by anybody not named Rome for assistance beyond the chewing and swallowing processes.  G’head - we’ll wait.

Now, so far as consequences go:

• Was Rome justified in resenting his tribemates’ lazy, entitled behavior?  Yeah, sure.
• Will Rome’s reactive behavior probably come back to bite him on the ass?  Almost assuredly.

 

[seacliffsal]

Yeah, Rome was the only one I saw who went fishing.  If the others weren't happy with the fish provided, maybe they should have, you know, tried to fish themselves...

I have been surprised these last few seasons by how few people actually try to fish.  I guess they all know the rewards will start soon and that they're not even out there for a month (if they make it to the end).

[fishcakes]

The fish situation was one of those things were everyone involved was wrong. Rome was possessive of the fishing gear, especially the Hawaiian sling. He was like Rupert all over again. Genevieve wanted to try fishing and he told her no. I would guess he kept saying no until she gave up because we saw him do a similar thing at the challenge when both Sol and Rome wanted to do the solo swim, and Rome wouldn't let it go so Sol let him have his way.

Then while Rome was fishing, everyone else was very conspicuously doing nothing. They were sunbathing and shit-talking Rome and saying he was probably saying they were lazy, which yes they were. They could have at least made sure there was fire and cleaned the fish.

But Rome was also wrong to think half the fish were his just because he caught them. It's a communal living situation. It's like saying no one can sit by the fire unless they got it started, or anyone who sits out a challenge doesn't get to share in the reward. At the same time, I find it kind of funny that Rome was ready to die on the hill of two little fish that couldn't have weighed more than six ounces combined. I guess my point is that they're all bad at this.

[Shermie]

On 10/2/2024 at 9:54 PM, awaken said:

What is up with Sue obviously wearing mascara?

She obviously has everything permanently tattooed - eyebrows, eyeliner. Probably has some sort of permanent eyelash implants. I mean, her weird duck lip implant is so distracting, I can’t concentrate on anything she says.

19 hours ago, Nashville said:

Not a Rome fan by any means, but “their” implies some degree of communal interaction - or plural, at the very least.  Between…

1. Catching the fish
2. Cleaning the fish
3. Cooking the fish
4. Eating the fish

…please indicate ANY offer of interaction by anybody not named Rome for assistance beyond the chewing and swallowing processes.  

So that make Rome the Little Red Hen of Survivor.

[Notabug]

49 minutes ago, Shermie said:

She obviously has everything permanently tattooed - eyebrows, eyeliner. Probably has some sort of permanent eyelash implants. I mean, her weird duck lip implant is so distracting, I can’t concentrate on anything she says.

 

Sue most likely got eyelash extensions prior to the show.  Like hair extensions, they're attached to the natural hair to make them appear longer and thicker.  There are a lot of salons that will do them and they last 1-2 months which is plenty of time for this show.  They cost several hundred bucks.

[snarts]

It's not Sue's obvious eyelash extensions people are commenting on, it's the mascara flakes/smudges that could be seen during her 1:1 camera confessional. It looked like she woke up after a night out. She either brought mascara or the fake eyelashes are still clinging to some after a week.

Re: Rome & the fish. Apparently, it wasn't enough that he touted his own horn about what a phenomenal contestant he is, he wanted everyone else to stand & clap as well.

Edited October 8 by snarts

[seacliffsal]

2 hours ago, snarts said:

 

Re: Rome & the fish. Apparently, it wasn't enough that he touted his own horn about what a phenomenal contestant he is, he wanted everyone else to stand & clap as well.

Hmmmmm, are we seeing this more often now?  We first saw it this season with Andy and his 'they didn't clap for me when I cut the cocoanut...'  I hope this isn't a growing trend that everyone needs wild cheering for everything they do.

[Lantern7]

Erik likes The Rome Show.

[JudyObscure]

I agree that everyone was wrong in the Rome/fish incident but it just amazes me how soon they forget that they're playing a game for a million dollars.

  Rome may have lost that much for two bites of fish and Anika might have lost it for the pleasure of telling Sam he's wrong about everything  -- although I understand the temptation.

[Gummo]

13 hours ago, seacliffsal said:

I hope this isn't a growing trend that everyone needs wild cheering for everything they do.

Hate to sound like the old fart I am, but:

it's the Participation Trophy Generation.

[Chalby]

On 10/2/2024 at 7:43 PM, dancingdreamer said:

These new tribes are all about emotions  and feelings.

Yep, and I am just not interested in this group's innermost workings. They don't have any general charisma to draw us in and carry the season. It's very hard to watch.

[Chalby]

On 10/8/2024 at 8:03 AM, Notabug said:

Sue most likely got eyelash extensions prior to the show.

I've had both, and they "should" last the duration, but odds are, they won't.  Especially with eyelashes. Eyelashes shed too regularly, so there's no guarantee when you extend them.

I remember getting lash extensions for a Saturday event, and the lashes were mostly gone after a week. It's hard to remember not to rub your eyes, etc.

[dkb]

On 10/5/2024 at 10:26 AM, snarts said:

For once, I'd love to them eliminate all of them without telling the contestants and have a season without any idols or advantages. Just a straight social experience. Oh, and starting with only two tribes as well.

 

^This alone would make such a difference. Most contestants don't get to show their strategy skills when your options are always reduced because of the number of idols/advantages. Everyone needs to play it safe and align with people with those idols because they carry so much power and there are like 100 per season.

I don't want to be a grumpy oldie but there wasn't anything like Survivor on TV when it premiered, and now as someone said above its Big Brother on TV. They are so coddled and I don't think they need to be.

Back to the 39 days, no idols, no journeys, no advantages, no second chance island.

I still remember faces if not names from the early days and cannot for the life of me remember more than like 2 people from the newer seasons.

My brother started watching the 1st season and he was floored with the fact that they had to SURVIVE along with all the other aspects.