S20.E03: Walk on the Ocean

[txhorns79]

Airing 3/28/24

 

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Meredith and Amelia work to secure funds for their research.

 

[SoMuchTV]

Cargo ship hitting something and causing problems? Unfortunately too soon?

[JeanJean]

Can TV finally declare a moratorium on the meet-cute-but-pissed in a parking lot trope?

[JudgeyMcJudgyPants]

Super snappy judgements-

The actress who played the wife of the dead guy was terrible - like high school drama class bad!

Lucas was acting like a real douche canoe this episode.  He deserved every bit of ass chewing he got in the locker room. And then to pack up and skulk off like a little bitch.  Dude, grow a pair.

Does the makeup and hair department hater Ellen Pompeo?  Everyone else looks pretty good (especially the intern with the partially shaved head *chefs kiss*).  Meredith looks like she hasn’t slept or showered in a couple of days.

[txhorns79]

Jo had the best response to the Nico storyline: "Who?" 

 

[babyrambo]

I like the new peds doctor. She reminds me of less harsh version of Hahn. Blunt, but sensible. She even made Amelia, a character I’m mostly indifferent to, interesting. Their snippy back and forth was fun to watch and I’m not sure if they’re going to eventually pair them up, but right now I wouldn’t mind. At least there’s chemistry there unlike with Amelia and Kai. That relationship was painfully boring. 

Actually all the recent romantic relationships have been pretty meh. I’ve always preferred Greys friendships to their romances but I did think Simone and Lucas had potential. At least until they shoved that secret fiancé into the middle of their relationship last season and ruined their momentum. 

The current bitterness between them feels unearned and forced because there was hardly time to get invested in their relationship. Adams has a right to feel used (I like her but for such a bland character, Simone’s personal life is messy as hell) but he wasn’t unaware of her situation. Maybe it’s the acting but I find Adams super entitled and whiny—not unlike his uncle so point to the show for highlighting the family resemblance I guess—so that entire drama comes off as a bit disingenuous. Not unlike the fight with Yasuda. She’s easily the most entertaining of the newbies but I wish they hadn’t trashed hers and Adams’ friendship so quickly. The fallout stings but not as much as it would’ve had they given them time to get really close. Also what happened to Adams’ ADHD? It’s like the writers just dropped that idea and instead decided to make him as insufferable as possible. Unfortunate, because I loved the Shepherd nepo-baby angle and now he’s my least favourite character.

Edited March 29 by babyrambo

[MrWhyt]

Dub Dub!!

[Madding crowd]

I don’t like any of the new interns and none of them hold my interest like the original MAGIC. I really can’t stand Mika and her entitled ranting all the time. Meredith is weird now; she stands around like people are only there to admire her for five minutes and then walks away. Still like Hunt, Weber and Bailey.

[ams1001]

Do new higher-up doctors get some kind of secret orientation? They always just seem to show up with most of the attendings/chiefs not even knowing who they are, no one in charge ever makes any kind of announcement or introduces them, and they always seem to know their way around like they've been there forever.

I know they're being punished, but is it really the best use of two residents' time to sit in an ICU room watching a patient sleep? And then when something (inevitably) happened it seems not a single nurse even came into the room to help Mika. Who was staffing the rest of ICU? Isn't the whole point of the ICU that there are nurses there to keep a close eye and be able to jump in quickly?

(Ignoring two department heads being the ones running the scans for one patient instead of techs who actually do that for a living, since that seems to be SOP for this place.)

8 hours ago, txhorns79 said:

Jo had the best response to the Nico storyline: "Who?" 

I didn't even realize it was him until "Levon" said it. Couldn't figure out what he was so worked up about. (And I couldn't help but assume the boyfriend knew exactly who he was and called him the wrong name on purpose.)

[KittenPokerCheater]

I’m so pissed off at Lucas.   I like the interns- especially Blue (I think that’s his name.  He went to St. Kits) I like the tension/sexual tension between him and I forget her name.   I’m bad with names and I’ve only become interested in them this season.

Edited March 29 by KittenPokerCheater

[txhorns79]

1 hour ago, ams1001 said:

I didn't even realize it was him until "Levon" said it. Couldn't figure out what he was so worked up about. (And I couldn't help but assume the boyfriend knew exactly who he was and called him the wrong name on purpose.)

I would tell Schmidt he dodged a bullet.  Nico's explanation of his current relationship sounded nuts.  No one should become a parent because they are desperate to hold onto a nine month old relationship.  That is only going to lead to eventual resentment of the kid and the boyfriend.

[ams1001]

2 hours ago, txhorns79 said:

I would tell Schmidt he dodged a bullet.  Nico's explanation of his current relationship sounded nuts.  No one should become a parent because they are desperate to hold onto a nine month old relationship.  That is only going to lead to eventual resentment of the kid and the boyfriend.

Right? I guess it's mildly better that the guy was already in the process of looking for a surrogate on his own and Nico decided he was on board for pursuing the relationship anyway, rather than them deciding to have a kid together after a matter of months. But still, seems like a bad idea. 

[Lady Calypso]

5 hours ago, txhorns79 said:

I would tell Schmidt he dodged a bullet.  Nico's explanation of his current relationship sounded nuts.  No one should become a parent because they are desperate to hold onto a nine month old relationship.  That is only going to lead to eventual resentment of the kid and the boyfriend.

Not EVEN a nine month old relationship; Nico would have had to decide by month three or four, since their surrogate is 24 weeks along, or whatever. 

Nico's reasoning sounded insane, honestly. I also don't buy his whole "this new guy lit up my entire world and the choice between having a child with a guy I barely know is better than not being with him at all." Nico doesn't know Jason at all. He went on a date, knowing this guy's preferences with kids and decided he'd just jump right into parenthood and living together so fast. And it's not like either are old; Nico can't be older than his mid-thirties. There's literally no reason to rush into a family situation with a guy he just met online. 

And bragging it about with Schmitt, not telling his partner about his ex, and not correcting his partner immediately and waiting until they got the elevator? Yeah, as much as this plot annoyed me, at least it solidified these two never getting back together again.

Jo's response to Schmitt was funny. Maybe a bit harsh, but funny. And hey, Schmitt in Peds, it's about damn time instead of making us believe he has a career in General Surgery.

I'm still iffy on the new Peds Surgeon, Beltran. She's so unlike any of the peds surgeons we've had. They definitely had her a bit more abrupt, a bit more direct in ways, she didn't feel the vibe of a Peds Surgeon, especially not like Arizona or Addison or Hayes. She has more of a General or Trauma vibe to her, but maybe that's just the actress.

However, I think by the end of the episode, with her pushing for her patients' needs and doing a great job explaining to Kwan about Peds being about the families first and requesting him for her service because she sees potential, maybe she'll just fit a different mold to Peds. Maybe she'll be more like an Alex Karev than an Arizona Robbins.

They're definitely pushing for an Amelia/Beltran relationship which, if it's casual and hate sex, it could be kind of fun. I'd love to see a truly casual relationship that actually stays casual. 

So, they're determined to make Lucas the worst intern in a long time, right? The way he decided to be so selfish and steal Mika's win, knowing full well she was the only one following the rules AND diagnosed the patient, is just low. All to get back into surgery, even though he was part of the problem? They're regressed Lucas, all because he's upset about Simone?

And then Simone decides to have an epiphany and defend Lucas against Mika. Ridiculous, but also, it's kind of fun to see the show truly dedicate their time building these interns' storylines, even if it's in a negative direction.

Yawn to the Meredith/Teddy stuff. Of course it's just that simple for her to get some funding. Honestly, Meredith could start her own foundation, at this point, and not need Catherine's money.

[dancingdreamer]

I see new pediatric  doctor  hooking up with Amelia. I just seem to be asking  myself,  if I really  want grey's  on my screen anymore. . I can't  decide. I have watched it from the start,  and feel some loyalty  to a show, I would  never  miss at one time.

[iMonrey]

Wow. Two days and only 13 comments. How far this show has fallen. But I get it. I still don't give a damn about any of the new interns and can't remember any of their names. And why is Teddy still alive? Who the hell likes Teddy?

I really like Natalie Morales but her introduction as the new Peds doc was so ham-fisted and corny. Who the hell walks into a brand new workplace and immediately starts arguing with and speaking condescendingly to the head of neuro like that? What, all because she stole a parking space from her? I get that the show wants us to understand immediately this character is tough as nails and knows her shit but she just came off as a jerk. Which means of course she and Amelia will wind up in bed together by, what - next week? Oh well, at least she has a personality, which is more than I can say for Kai.

What is up with Bailey being such a bitch this season? I understand she has always been sort of intimidating and no-nonsense with the interns but over the years they have done a lot to humanize her. It seems like she has reverted into this two-dimensional cartoon character that does nothing but be mean to the interns.

[Mirabelle]

I think Bailey is overcompensating for being a failure as a chief.  She was really bad at it - the surgery residency program nearly lost accreditation, doctors were leaving because of it, and there was a lot of bad publicity during her tenure. 

Also, I can see people thinking Schmidt is cute or that his bumbling is adorable (although not what I'd personally want in a surgeon) but they have got to stop with the "Super hot surgeon" comments from people who have just met him. 

[PurpleFishHead]

8 hours ago, iMonrey said:

Natalie Morales

I've always liked her, but not sure she fits on the show.

[LexieLily]

I remember that Simone and Lucas were in the room operating on Sam without a resident/attending after Teddy collapsed, and I know that Blue went against Maxine's DNR because she was Jules' favorite person. I don't remember what Yasuda did to be in trouble. Is she guilty by association or what?

[CarpeFelis]

I felt bad for Schmidt. Bad enough Nico shows up out of the blue, but he’s partnered up and they’re expecting a baby? And then when he introduces himself it’s obvious Nico has never mentioned him and the handsome partner gets his name wrong. Freaking OUCH. It wasn’t exactly like Jo said, that he felt like Nico’s life was way ahead of his. It was more like “tell me without telling me that I was insignificant to you and you could do so much better”.

I can sympathize with that. The last guy I dated before my husband, we were together for 2 1/2 years. He was always talking about how he was never, never, ever getting married. A few years later, mutual friends tell me he married the next woman he went out with. I didn’t feel as devastated as Schmidt because by then I was married to a much better guy, but I was kind of shocked and pissed off that Mr. “I Am NEVER Getting Married” not only did, but he married the next woman who took so much as a second look at him. Like, what the hell had I been, chopped liver?

[Milaxx]

3 hours ago, PurpleFishHead said:

I've always liked her, but not sure she fits on the show.

She doesn’t and I hate that this is clearly Amelia latest romance.

I HATE that they brought Nico back with thee dumbest storyline to date. Schmico was a rollercoaster romance, but Levi dumped him. He’s been gone at least a year, even in Grey’s time. Give Levi a decent love interest & stop teasing us that Schimco is happening again. The writers already destroyed all that was cute about that relationship.

As for the new interns, I only sorta like Simone & Lucas so of course, they’ll drag that out until it’s insufferable.

*As an aside, I still find it distracting that Jake & Nick played love interest in a movie 4 years ago. I simply cannot unsee it. 

[Mirabelle]

Who's Jake? 

Of the interns, I like Lucas the nepobaby the least. I don't know if the actor is being directed this way or if that's just his face, but he always looks confused like Sam Beckett just leaped into his body and needs to take a moment to figure out what is going on. 

[DEL901]

5 minutes ago, Mirabelle said:

Who's Jake? 

Of the interns, I like Lucas the nepobaby the least. I don't know if the actor is being directed this way or if that's just his face, but he always looks confused like Sam Beckett just leaped into his body and needs to take a moment to figure out what is going on. 

Jake is the actor who plays Schmitt.    Who is soooo not a hot doc.   They should have checked the patient’s eyesight.  

[iMonrey]

14 hours ago, Milaxx said:

I HATE that they brought Nico back with thee dumbest storyline to date. Schmico was a rollercoaster romance, but Levi dumped him. He’s been gone at least a year, even in Grey’s time. Give Levi a decent love interest & stop teasing us that Schimco is happening again.

I'm not sure what to make of Nico's sudden reappearance either. If it was meant to give Schmidt closure it played more like opening an old wound instead. I can't help but think that Nico's fast-track fatherhood with his new partner is headed for disaster and the show is in fact planning on a Schmidt/Nico reunion. 

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The writers already destroyed all that was cute about that relationship.

The writers destroy every relationship. Look what they did to Jo and Linc. 

[CarpeFelis]

1 hour ago, Mirabelle said:

Of the interns, I like Lucas the nepobaby the least. I don't know if the actor is being directed this way or if that's just his face, but he always looks confused like Sam Beckett just leaped into his body and needs to take a moment to figure out what is going on. 

I don’t like him either. He comes across really arrogant. You, sir, are no Derek Shepherd. (He also looks like his mouth is too small for the rest of his face.)

[KaveDweller]

21 hours ago, LexieLily said:

I remember that Simone and Lucas were in the room operating on Sam without a resident/attending after Teddy collapsed, and I know that Blue went against Maxine's DNR because she was Jules' favorite person. I don't remember what Yasuda did to be in trouble. Is she guilty by association or what?

Yasuda was in the OR with Simone and Lucas, but she wasn't operating because she was tending to Teddy after she collapsed. So I guess it is by association. Same with Jules, I guess. Webber said something about how Jules shouldn't have been treating someone she is close to, but every doctor on the show is guilty of that.

I still don't get what Simone and Lucas were supposed to do when the attending in the room collapsed, the patient was coding, and the other attendings took forever to respond to their pages because they were making out in the rain.

[Milaxx]

16 hours ago, DEL901 said:

Jake is the actor who plays Schmitt.    Who is soooo not a hot doc.   They should have checked the patient’s eyesight.  

Twink Levi was cute. Grown up Levi is just your average gay. Everyone at this hospital has the libido of a horny 16 year old.

[Milaxx]

23 hours ago, iMonrey said:

I'm not sure what to make of Nico's sudden reappearance either. If it was meant to give Schmidt closure it played more like opening an old wound instead. I can't help but think that Nico's fast-track fatherhood with his new partner is headed for disaster and the show is in fact planning on a Schmidt/Nico reunion. 

The writers destroy every relationship. Look what they did to Jo and Linc. 

I hate the idea of yet another Schmico reunion. They have never fully developed Nico as a character. What happened to his parents no knowing he’s out? What happened to the invite to move in together? They dropped far too many storylines and ultimately just made him a meat stick for Levi. He literally was  Levi’s “gay Sherpa”. The actor deserves better.

 

I also hate how they ruined Amelia & Linc and now Amelia gets paired with every new character 

[Milaxx]

On 3/31/2024 at 11:40 AM, Mirabelle said:

Who's Jake? 

Of the interns, I like Lucas the nepobaby the least. I don't know if the actor is being directed this way or if that's just his face, but he always looks confused like Sam Beckett just leaped into his body and needs to take a moment to figure out what is going on. 

They had a halfway decent storyline last season with him being the black sheep of the Shepard family and Nick figuring out he had ADHD but like so many storylines, that seems to have been dropped. In fact I just rewatched last season and the writer showed so much promise with this new batch of interns and Meredith being gone and all of that appears to have been tossed out the window and replaced with a bunch of plots to set up romantic interest for everyone. I don't need Meredith back, I'm not interested in another Amelia romance, and I'm especially not interested in another round of Schmico, a ship I used to love. Nick had potential as a doctor. I don't care if Helms and Yasuda are sleeping together. It's a step up from Helms lack of character development outside of being Levi's friend and her unrequited love of Grey. I am pissed that  they made Maggie into Ellis 2.0 and had her villainized instead of it simply being that she and Winston had a pandemic romance that couldn't make it. 

I disagree that Bailey was the worse chef, but blame that on the writers deciding to make Richard come up with that stupid teaching method that was previously tried by that female Doctor (I forget her name) and dumped and Catherine's undermining with Koracick. If we want to talk bad, it was under Owen that half the doctors were in that plane crash. IIRC under Derek when they had the shooting. Hell, they cut the L vlad wire under Richard's watch & Meredith ruined the Alzheimer's trial under his watch. (Speaking of which, how she would ever be allowed anywhere near any sort of Alzheimer's research every again is beyond me.)  I don't think Bailey was any better or worse than anyone else who was chef. 

I miss the show that managed to balance medical drama with romance and instead what we get is more or less a soap set in a hospital.

Edited April 2 by Milaxx