Josh and Anna

[CalicoKitty]

I wonder if they replaced the router at the car lot.

[Notabug]

6 minutes ago, CalicoKitty said:

I wonder if they replaced the router at the car lot.

Wasn't it sentenced to life in Leavenworth?

I was at work, checking out this site and waiting for the news to break.

[AstridM]

37 minutes ago, CalicoKitty said:

I wonder if they replaced the router at the car lot.

I believe it’s the “carlot.” 🤪

[Zella]

I am pretty sure I cleared my schedule for the day and pretended to work while I was glued to this site and possibly the Daily Mail live blog about the trial if it was still updating. The latter detail makes me feel gross, but they were the only live blog covering the trial and I lived for their misidentifications of the other Duggar boys. They thought everyone was Jed!. LMAO

Edited December 10, 2024 by Zella

[EmeraldGirl]

I was waiting for Katie Joy. I know most people don’t like her, but she covered that one really well and had all the details. 

[Minivanessa]

I was working, but I was online and I was keeping an eye on the news. 

[libgirl2]

4 hours ago, Minivanessa said:

I was working, but I was online and I was keeping an eye on the news. 

Same 

[Gemma Violet]

Anna spotted:

https://www.the-sun.com/entertainment/13086687/anna-duggar-photos-first-time-two-years-solemn-arkansas/

 

eta:  She's wearing pants.

.

Edited December 14, 2024 by Gemma Violet

[oliviabenson]

proof of life! 

[merylinkid]

As soon as the cameras are off and the grift stops -- the whole performative modesty thing goes right out the window.   Pants, monitoring activities of even adults (Jana was texting her now husband probably unmonitored), all of it.   Because it was all a scam.

Although that sweater with the horizontal band right across her stomach does Anna no favors.   I avoid horizontal stripes for that very reason.

[AstridM]

[Gemma Violet]

14 hours ago, merylinkid said:

As soon as the cameras are off and the grift stops -- the whole performative modesty thing goes right out the window.   Pants, monitoring activities of even adults (Jana was texting her now husband probably unmonitored), all of it.   Because it was all a scam.

The younger girls were wearing skirts during Jana's bridal shower week, so it seems that's still a thing.  Jana probably got a pass (on both pants and no chaperone) because of her age.  Anna's in her late 30s, so I'd guess JB gives her some latitude as well.  A couple of months ago, Joy, during a podcast discussion of how they used to swim in their clothes, said the 'swimming in clothes' rules have loosened up over the years.  So there may have been some other rule changes (or rule loosening) here and there. 

eta:  In the same podcast interview, Austin said that when he first met Joy, the Duggar boys could not wear shorts, but later on, they could.  

Edited December 14, 2024 by Gemma Violet

[DXD526]

Even though she's a holier-than-thou pain in the arse, I can't help but feel a little bad for Anna. She's obviously eating her feelings. Every time it crosses her mind, which is probably often, that the good Christian man that God picked out for her turned out to be a pedophile who's now in prison, she has another handful of Doritos. 

The reality of her life has got to be painful. She's still a hateful bigot with horrible beliefs, but I feel a little bad for her. Just a little.

[Zella]

6 hours ago, DXD526 said:

that the good Christian man that God picked out for her turned out to be a pedophile who's now in prison,

Her social media presence over the years has suggested that she doesn't believe this at all. She thinks Josh has been railroaded and is innocent. I don't have any sympathy for that. After sitting through that trial, for her to still believe that, there's a willful ignorance there that I just don't respect or pity. I have no doubt she's miserable, but I don't think for a minute it's because she's bewailing the fact her husband is a pedophile. 

[Notabug]

12 minutes ago, Zella said:

Her social media presence over the years has suggested that she doesn't believe this at all. She thinks Josh has been railroaded and is innocent. I don't have any sympathy for that. After sitting through that trial, for her to still believe that, there's a willful ignorance there that I just don't respect or pity. I have no doubt she's miserable, but I don't think for a minute it's because she's bewailing the fact her husband is a pedophile. 

Absolutely.  Anna is a true believer in Gothardism and it has been pounded into her from early childhood that it is the woman who is at fault if a man has impure thoughts; even if the 'woman' in question is a preschooler.  Children, especially girl children, are evil by nature and put on earth to lead poor men astray.  That's why even toddlers need to be covered from their neck to their knees at all times.  Heck, I am sure Anna never expected Josh to change a diaper ever because seeing a baby girl naked would be a major temptation.  Somewhere online, there is testimony from a young man who is a pedophile who claimed it was not his fault because his baby sisters would sometimes run through the house naked after their baths and this lead him astray.  So, it was the fault of his mother for not immediately slapping a diaper and clothing on them the moment they got out of the tub.

Edited December 15, 2024 by Notabug

[CalicoKitty]

2 hours ago, Notabug said:

Absolutely.  Anna is a true believer in Gothardism and it has been pounded into her from early childhood that it is the woman who is at fault if a man has impure thoughts; even if the 'woman' in question is a preschooler.  Children, especially girl children, are evil by nature and put on earth to lead poor men astray.  That's why even toddlers need to be covered from their neck to their knees at all times.  Heck, I am sure Anna never expected Josh to change a diaper ever because seeing a baby girl naked would be a major temptation.  Somewhere online, there is testimony from a young man who is a pedophile who claimed it was not his fault because his baby sisters would sometimes run through the house naked after their baths and this lead him astray.  So, it was the fault of his mother for not immediately slapping a diaper and clothing on them the moment they got out of the tub.

I do remember what Josh said about baby care:  Anna takes care of the top half, and he takes care of the bottom half.  It sounded like he was saying that Anna does the feeding and he changes the diapers.  Looking back on the situation, that statement gives me chills.  Maybe he was just trying to make people think he actually did help with baby care, but in hindsight I wish he hadn't said it.

Edited December 15, 2024 by CalicoKitty

[EmeraldGirl]

When you first glance at the picture, it looks like she’s showing her entire belly. The brown band and the sticks make it look like it’s her belly and a belly button. At least she’s not going in that direction.
 

She did get awfully arrogant after Josh became such a big deal. But I am sad for the girl that was the homebound daughter of the prison preacher. She adored Josh when she saw him on TV and thought he was the greatest thing ever. Her good life began when they moved to Maryland while he had that important job with the family research blah blah blah. She was putting together a little playhouse on the deck, when she had like two children, I believe.Those were the glory days, and it must have been quite something to sink all the way down from that. And then further down with his conviction. But somewhere in between there, she became very arrogant. and holier than thou. That’s when she became incredibly unlikable from the poor sweet little trailer trash gal who made her own wedding clothes, and listened to her dad talk about grape juice. It’s just all a tragedy. . And now she is breeding dogs? Is there nothing but pregnancy involved with this person?

[Gemma Violet]

Another Sun article with new pics and also video of Anna:

https://www.the-sun.com/entertainment/13102157/anna-duggar-laughs-friends-rare-outing-josh-prison/

Edited December 18, 2024 by Gemma Violet

[EmeraldGirl]

Eh, I look at her and I just feel dislike. New shoes, carefree attitude, hair curled.I know she has to go on living for her children, but she just has rubbed me the wrong way for a long time. Including still wearing her damn wedding ring. I guess she didn’t hear the trial the same way we all did.

So what exactly is happening here? Is she all on the Dugger dime, or is she getting government assistance? I don’t know how she doesn’t go crazy in that “house”. Sure, the Dugger boys probably came in and fixed it to be all modern and pretty, but I don’t remember any windows in that place. I love to be outside so stir crazy would be the words for me. Maybe that’s the deal. You stay married and live in the little garage, and you get all the free clothes and shoes you want.

I was just reading about the prison conditions, and saying how there’s not enough food, and things are expired and full of bugs. Yet he still looks as fat as ever (and I reserve the word Fat for him. I don’t criticize other people, but this dope deserves every bad word there is). Plus, they said he is strolling around in expensive sunglasses and shoes. So I guess daddy is putting a lot of money his way. Plus, he’s in the nicer dorm section. Microwaves, doing your own laundry, other privileges that most don’t get. What’s up with that? He already had bad behavior and solitary because of the cell phone. But now they said he’s getting a degree, so that might be why he qualifies.

Watch this doofus come out just as arrogant as ever, with his beloved wife waiting for him, and some dumb degree. Didn’t we figure out that Anna will probably be passed child bearing years when he gets out? Or it’ll be close. But he won’t even be able to live in the house with her, so how are they gonna figure that one out? Josh moves into the big house, and pretends not to see Anna and the kids right next-door?

[Notabug]

13 hours ago, EmeraldGirl said:

Eh, I look at her and I just feel dislike. New shoes, carefree attitude, hair curled.I know she has to go on living for her children, but she just has rubbed me the wrong way for a long time. Including still wearing her damn wedding ring. I guess she didn’t hear the trial the same way we all did.

So what exactly is happening here? Is she all on the Dugger dime, or is she getting government assistance? I don’t know how she doesn’t go crazy in that “house”. Sure, the Dugger boys probably came in and fixed it to be all modern and pretty, but I don’t remember any windows in that place. I love to be outside so stir crazy would be the words for me. Maybe that’s the deal. You stay married and live in the little garage, and you get all the free clothes and shoes you want.

I was just reading about the prison conditions, and saying how there’s not enough food, and things are expired and full of bugs. Yet he still looks as fat as ever (and I reserve the word Fat for him. I don’t criticize other people, but this dope deserves every bad word there is). Plus, they said he is strolling around in expensive sunglasses and shoes. So I guess daddy is putting a lot of money his way. Plus, he’s in the nicer dorm section. Microwaves, doing your own laundry, other privileges that most don’t get. What’s up with that? He already had bad behavior and solitary because of the cell phone. But now they said he’s getting a degree, so that might be why he qualifies.

Watch this doofus come out just as arrogant as ever, with his beloved wife waiting for him, and some dumb degree. Didn’t we figure out that Anna will probably be passed child bearing years when he gets out? Or it’ll be close. But he won’t even be able to live in the house with her, so how are they gonna figure that one out? Josh moves into the big house, and pretends not to see Anna and the kids right next-door?

I don't think we know how long Josh will serve, but he was sentenced to 12.5 years and he's still got about 10 years of that to go.  Anna is currently 36, so, if he serves the whole thing, she will be 46 when he is freed.  Most 46 year old women would have difficulty getting pregnant and their odds of carrying to term are low; so, if he doesn't get time off for some reason or another, it is likely that Anna will not have any more kids.

As far as whether he'll be able to live in the same home with his minor children, I believe that will be up to the court.  He was allowed to see the kids as long as Anna or another adult was present prior to the trial.  Also, his kids are going to be 10 years older, too.  The oldest 3 won't be minors when he is released and Meredith will become a legal adult soon after.  So, it's really just the youngest 3 who will be under the court's rules.

[Salacious Kitty]

Release date is currently 2032, so they will be 44. She could squeeze out another one, but it's highly unlikely. However, her mother and older sister had their last/most recent at 44/43, so there's some precedent for geriatric pregnancy in her female line. 

Edited December 18, 2024 by Salacious Kitty

[Albanyguy]

16 hours ago, EmeraldGirl said:

Eh, I look at her and I just feel dislike. New shoes, carefree attitude, hair curled.

And the same smug "Don't you wish you were me?" smirk she always wore.

[Nysha]

I'm glad she's living as happily as she can. I hate her religion, her values, and her smug attitude, but that doesn't mean I want her to be miserable. I'm glad she allows her kids to play sports and not confine them to the warehouse/Duggar compound.

[Tasya]

She looks like she's been enjoying some conjugal visits. 

[Salacious Kitty]

2 hours ago, Tasya said:

She looks like she's been enjoying some conjugal visits. 

Not permitted in Federal prison. 

[Absolom]

I think it's comfort food.

[Salacious Kitty]

It warms my cold dead heart to know that the Felon spent his 37th birthday in prison yesterday. Here's to many more such birthdays. 

[crazy8s]

It always boggles my mind to see any duggar offspring's real age.

Like how are John, Joe, or any Jed not over 40 yet? Because they all look so middle aged and have for years.

[Is Everyone Gone]

I don't think Anna is a nice person at all. I don't think she's a good person. But I still feel bad for her. She's trapped with 7 children. I don't doubt that Josh is emotionally abusive towards her. It seems as if the Duggars simply tolerate her.

[oliviabenson]

Anna is living her best life without Josh!

[Salacious Kitty]

1 minute ago, oliviabenson said:

Anna is living her best life without Josh!

Disagree. I think she's depressed and has been eating her feelings. The weight gain has been alarming. 

[lookeyloo]

5 minutes ago, Salacious Kitty said:

Disagree. I think she's depressed and has been eating her feelings. The weight gain has been alarming. 

Agree - she has no "power" over her own life.  Also, she is young and healthy and even if it was Josh she might be missing "benefits".  I know, we will all say EWWWW but this is Anna.

[Is Everyone Gone]

2 hours ago, Salacious Kitty said:

Disagree. I think she's depressed and has been eating her feelings. The weight gain has been alarming. 

I feel like it's fairly normal for fundie girls to exhibit some sort of disordered eating. 

Food is their last domain of control. Anna seems to be a fairly good cook, so I say let her eat her feelings. 

[oliviabenson]

I think Josh preferred her trim. Now he’s gone she can eat what she wants.

[Salacious Kitty]

According to sn article in InTouch yesterday, the felon's call block was put on no yard privileges due to contraband. The inmates went on a hunger strike. Do we think the felon gave up his commissary snack stash in solidarity? 

Edited March 16 by Salacious Kitty

[EmeraldGirl]

I can picture Josh sitting alone with a carton of honey buns.
 

Do we know where Anna is living now? Is she still in that windowless hell hole that the boys made very “modern”? Or I wonder if she just packed it up and went into the big house. Plenty of room now for the kids to share the two bedrooms, and who knows, maybe she has taken over the homeschooling for everyone.
 

I guess it is nice that JB has taken over financially for them all? But what else is he gonna do? He guided Josh his whole life and look how that turned out.

[Gemma Violet]

5 minutes ago, EmeraldGirl said:

Is she still in that windowless hell hole that the boys made very “modern”? Or I wonder if she just packed it up and went into the big house.

I think she and kids have been living in the big house for quite a while, but I read somewhere recently that they were now back in the windowless building, but I don't think it was a reliable source.  So who knows.

[merylinkid]

With Jana married and moved out, someone has to take over raising the still minor children.   Because Michelle sure isn't going to do it.    I will never forget she had to learn to "have a heart" for children.   She never really wanted a lot of kids, she just wanted the attention from being pregnant and giving birth.

[crazy8s]

13 hours ago, Gemma Violet said:

I think she and kids have been living in the big house for quite a while, but I read somewhere recently that they were now back in the windowless building, but I don't think it was a reliable source.  So who knows.

I think Anna and the kids all moved in to the TTH at the same time Jana got a tiny house, Jase moved to the tree house, James moved to the shed and Elijah maybe moved to an apartment where his truck was stolen.

I think the m kids moved into the dorms, but possibly it was deemed they could not be in the same room as the over 18 duggars.

Tyler went back to his grandparents shortly after that.