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Shaun Robinson dives deep with the cast of The Other Way Season 5. They are joined by four 90 Day Fiancé veterans who have lots of opinions about all the couples' relationships, and they aren't shy about sharing them.

 



 

 

Air Date: December 4, 2023

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If Shekinah thinks her relationship is the best she's ever had, I'd hate to see the worst one she's had.  He's a controlling donkey's rear.  It's a flapping red flag when your entire family doesn't like your boyfriend-even if the sister came in guns a 'blazing. 

I've noticed that some of the women seemed to agree and  like it when a man controls them, as a sign of love and care.  But when Mary pulls Brandan around by the gonads, he's a wuss and she's a sociopath?

And there we have it, the "C" word heard around the world.  Isn't Kimberly just a peach of a gal? And there's Jenny going all self-righteous, but wasn't it within memory that she was shrieking and throwing things around?  

TJ, the other donkey's rear, and Kimberly deserve one another, if they stay together.

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1 hour ago, AR Traveler said:

And there we have it, the "C" word heard around the world.  Isn't Kimberly just a peach of a gal?

That word, and her giggling while announcing "I don't care" as her go-to response, simply amplifies her immaturity. She's young, stupid, and entitled. That all makes for a huge crash when she eventually sees the error of her ways. But she doesn't "get it" right now, so it's not worth our effort.

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I do not understand how 90Day arrived at an understanding that Tim, Andre, Kalani and Tania would have ANYTHING of value to offer couples trying to adjust to new surroundings and marriages. They're weren't exactly successful in relationships or adapting to new environments...

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6 hours ago, AR Traveler said:

If Shekinah thinks her relationship is the best she's ever had, I'd hate to see the worst one she's had.  He's a controlling donkey's rear.  It's a flapping red flag when your entire family doesn't like your boyfriend-even if the sister came in guns a 'blazing. 

I've noticed that some of the women seemed to agree and  like it when a man controls them, as a sign of love and care.  But when Mary pulls Brandan around by the gonads, he's a wuss and she's a sociopath?

And there we have it, the "C" word heard around the world.  Isn't Kimberly just a peach of a gal? And there's Jenny going all self-righteous, but wasn't it within memory that she was shrieking and throwing things around?  

TJ, the other donkey's rear, and Kimberly deserve one another, if they stay together.

I’m still convinced Shekinah and Sarper are here for the social media clout. I’m sure they know each other and have hooked up, but this isn’t a real life partnership. She’s also heading back home every few weeks for her daughter’s school breaks, so she doesn’t have any cultural adjustments (long term) or legal hurdles. 

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6 hours ago, Chalby said:

That word, and her giggling while announcing "I don't care" as her go-to response, simply amplifies her immaturity. She's young, stupid, and entitled. That all makes for a huge crash when she eventually sees the error of her ways. But she doesn't "get it" right now, so it's not worth our effort.

Mrs. Anon and I were wondering if Kimberly may be mentally imbalanced.  Not that I wouldn't also be freaking out if I were forced to be a traditional Indian housewife,  but she should have seen that one coming.  She did seem incredibly excitable last night.

Something about the excessive laughing too that's unsettling.   Like someone playing the Joker or Harlequin... 

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5 hours ago, Chalby said:

I do not understand how 90Day arrived at an understanding that Tim, Andre, Kalani and Tania would have ANYTHING of value to offer couples trying to adjust to new surroundings and marriages. They're weren't exactly successful in relationships or adapting to new environments...

You're right; only Andrei and Elizabeth "made it" long-term, and her family still hates him.  Tim plays for the other team, I'm betting.

 

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2 hours ago, Shauna said:

Shekinah's lips are awful.

And Sarper's instructions for the day included not wearing contouring so her lips would stick out more. They want more of that?

But Holly's lips are no better. Her whole face is oddly fascinating. I can't put my finger on what's so strange about it.

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7 minutes ago, Tango64 said:

But Holly's lips are no better. Her whole face is oddly fascinating. I can't put my finger on what's so strange about it.

Holly is simply an unrecognizable mess. She's clearly done something different, and her hair/makeup has been altered, (she's puffier looking) but she still appears unkempt and bewildered. I have noticed that she seems much older during this tell all. What age did she give? I'm assuming she's easily 42+.

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26 minutes ago, Chalby said:

she still appears unkempt and bewildered.

Yes, and this supposedly was her at her best, on tv with professional help to look good. She always looks like she's ill, struggling, puffy, and just forced herself out of bed to smear on some lipstick.

And bewildered, yes, good description.

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4 hours ago, anoninrva said:

Something about the excessive laughing too that's unsettling. 

Yes, it reminded me of a 13-year-old who's gotten into big trouble, and is doing her best to pretend that laughing and using dirty words show that she's too cool for your judgment, when she's really terrified and putting up a front. She is WAY too old for that. People should outgrow this stage after middle school.

20 minutes ago, Tango64 said:

She always looks like she's ill strung out

My interpretation.

Shekinah and Holly, if your partner telling you what to weigh and how to apply makeup each day is a signal to you that he cares, then you are a survivor of abuse or neglect, and you need to work on healing and not be in a relationship that feels comfortable and familiar. Five sisters and your mom are ALL estranged? You are going to be in a world of hurt. I can only hope that Shekinah's daughter doesn't repeat these sick patterns.

Please, please tell me that Midnight is a direct translation of a Tagalog name. Otherwise, you're naming her after her work shift on the pole. A baby this cute deserves a better name, though that's the least of the ways her parents are doing her wrong:

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C0Xsgpzvs-_/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

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6 hours ago, anoninrva said:

Mrs. Anon and I were wondering if Kimberly may be mentally imbalanced.  Not that I wouldn't also be freaking out if I were forced to be a traditional Indian housewife,  but she should have seen that one coming.  She did seem incredibly excitable last night.

Something about the excessive laughing too that's unsettling.   Like someone playing the Joker or Harlequin... 

I almost got the vibe that what they were saying to her was hitting her hard and her defense to it would be the whole laughing and bad language. It is really very childlike. 

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After that screaming Kimberly did in the apartment, I DID think her meds needed adjusting.

Then the way she acted RIGHT OUT OF THE GATE at the Tell-All just amplified that thought.

The girl is not right in the head.  TJ's family may want to start locking that door to their upstairs, just to be on the safe side.

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Ok Kimberly should not have called Jenny the C word. She is no C word, just a sad old chicken.  BUT Jenny can step off with her "I was respectful of India and it's culture ". NO. We have seen the tape Jenny. So it was respectful when you told Summit's parents you were just visiting your "friend" all the while Summit was sneak around their house so you could take his virginity! Or it was respectful when you told him to lie to his parents about you getting married? Or when you didn't want to go to the market because India is so confusing and hard? Both Summit and TJ lied to both these women.  The only difference between Jenny and Kimberly is Kimberly can yell louder!

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19 minutes ago, WahooLAH99 said:

Ok Kimberly should not have called Jenny the C word. She is no C word, just a sad old chicken.  BUT Jenny can step off with her "I was respectful of India and it's culture ". NO. We have seen the tape Jenny. So it was respectful when you told Summit's parents you were just visiting your "friend" all the while Summit was sneak around their house so you could take his virginity! Or it was respectful when you told him to lie to his parents about you getting married? Or when you didn't want to go to the market because India is so confusing and hard? Both Summit and TJ lied to both these women.  The only difference between Jenny and Kimberly is Kimberly can yell louder!

I agree. Kimberly is an atrocious person, I thought Jenny was a bit hypocritical but she’s not impossible to get along with like Kimberly has portrayed herself to be. If Kimberly acts like that in public what does she say or do in private?!!

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Lips and Neanderthal Ken relish thier twisted pairing. I foresee bondage porn in the future.

Please Jenny...a step stool is a dangerous activity for your feeble old ass, but your going to throw down with a girl half your age? 

All Raggedy Holly wants for Xmas is the neck muscle strength to keep her bobble head upright. 

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11 hours ago, IvySpice said:

Please, please tell me that Midnight is a direct translation of a Tagalog name. Otherwise, you're naming her after her work shift on the pole. A baby this cute deserves a better name, though that's the least of the ways her parents are doing her wrong:

As President Bongbong Marcos can tell you the actual name on the birth certificate means little in the Philippines.

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On 12/5/2023 at 10:48 AM, Tango64 said:

And Sarper's instructions for the day included not wearing contouring so her lips would stick out more. They want more of that?

But Holly's lips are no better. Her whole face is oddly fascinating. I can't put my finger on what's so strange about it.

It’s like Picasso painted her face.

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Sarper and Shekina are gross. They both look like melting plastic messes and walking STDs. Holly and Shekina are both damaged and needing that control is absolutely not an example of any type of dom/sub type of relationship. "I look at him as my leader" and "we're the perfect match." Yes, match made in hell. Good fucking luck. I love how she's all "shut it off" when they played her sister's message, and she admits that she doesn't talk to any of her sisters OR her mother all because of her relationship with Sarper. Also, her eyebrows are HORRIBLE at the ends.

I don't get the 'special guests' again. I think they did this last year with the idiot guy Tim and another girl - was that the same girl sitting in front of him? Tim's guyliner is absolutely ridiculous and not the 'fun,' quirky look he thinks it is.

I'm surprised Kimberly is still living above TJ's parents. Also, taking out a $12K loan and not telling your partner is a lot. And shut up, Jenny. I can't believe she literally told Kimberly to 'respect India.' Also, I would have laughed my ass off just like Kimberly did if Jenny started wagging her finger at me, AND Jenny just threatened her physically when she came at her. However, everyone was correct when they told her that she didn't deescalate anything and just kept ramping everything up. Jenny "I was respectful to [Sumbitch's] parents and to India the whole way" - oh my fucking god. Clearly she doesn't think that we watched her previous episodes.

Daniele's hair is a tragedy. Still.

Kiersten looked like an amorphous blonde blob for 98.5% of this episode. Also, GO girl, and good for you for standing up for yourself and not putting up with Julio's shit for another fucking year. 👏🏻 Julio "I'm trying to protect you" - fuck off already.

 

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On 12/5/2023 at 7:04 PM, WahooLAH99 said:

BUT Jenny can step off with her "I was respectful of India and it's culture ". NO. We have seen the tape Jenny. So it was respectful when you told Summit's parents you were just visiting your "friend" all the while Summit was sneak around their house so you could take his virginity! Or it was respectful when you told him to lie to his parents about you getting married

I have to disagree with you regarding Jenny's level of respect towards India. She has always stated she loved India and its culture. Sumit's parents have difficult personalities and are so disrespectful towards Jenny, I can't fault her for giving up on trying to please them.

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10 hours ago, Chalby said:

She has always stated she loved India and its culture.

True. But she thinks we forget about the whole, "I am just a friend visiting" lie she told his parents as she was sneaking around screwing their son in their own home where the hosted her.....that is NOT respecting the culture or the family. 

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20 minutes ago, Stuckathome said:

True. But she thinks we forget about the whole, "I am just a friend visiting" lie she told his parents as she was sneaking around screwing their son in their own home where the hosted her.....that is NOT respecting the culture or the family. 

Yeah, I guess I can't hold it against Jenny and Sumit. She loves Sumit as much as she loves India. They were in love, but the family just wouldn't accept it, so they had to sneak around. (Sumit wasn't some virginal teen, who she seduced. He originally tried to catfish her, Remember?) Their relationship's min journey has got nothing to do the country.

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26 minutes ago, Stuckathome said:

True. But she thinks we forget about the whole, "I am just a friend visiting" lie she told his parents as she was sneaking around screwing their son in their own home where the hosted her.....that is NOT respecting the culture or the family. 

Well it seems to always happen, now with the crew asking for performance reviews, except when you have a couple proselytizing their faith on the show

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14 hours ago, lightninggirl said:

Kiersten looked like an amorphous blonde blob for 98.5% of this episode. Also, GO girl, and good for you for standing up for yourself and not putting up with Julio's shit for another fucking year. 👏🏻 Julio "I'm trying to protect you" - fuck off already.

 

She looked absolutely mortified to be there. 

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15 hours ago, lightninggirl said:

Jenny "I was respectful to [Sumbitch's] parents and to India the whole way" - oh my fucking god. Clearly she doesn't think that we watched her previous episodes.

Yes. Miss Jenny fucking Summit underneath his parent’s roof, participating in their PUBLIC embarrassment given Summit was married to someone else!!! 

No, Jenny didn’t have the support Kimberly had because Summit was someone else’s husband!

 

4 hours ago, Stuckathome said:

True. But she thinks we forget about the whole, "I am just a friend visiting" lie she told his parents as she was sneaking around screwing their son in their own home where the hosted her.....that is NOT respecting the culture or the family. 

Yeah I agree with you. Of course Summit participated in that too, but Jenny had no business as a guest in their home. 

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5 minutes ago, Scarlett45 said:

Yes. Miss Jenny fucking Summit underneath his parent’s roof, participating in their PUBLIC embarrassment given Summit was married to someone else!!! 

No, Jenny didn’t have the support Kimberly had because Summit was someone else’s husband!

 

Yeah I agree with you. Of course Summit participated in that too, but Jenny had no business as a guest in their home. 

Wait, he was officially married? I missed that. I thought he was promised or something. 

And hey, it does take two to tango. We have seen worse on this show. 

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4 minutes ago, libgirl2 said:

Wait, he was officially married? I missed that. I thought he was promised or something. 

And hey, it does take two to tango. We have seen worse on this show. 

NO he was MARRIED. He spent the DOWRY, and had to pay it back in order to get divorced!! He embarrassed his poor wife publicly, and then didnt want to give back the dowry!!! His father in law had to get involved. I felt so badly for Summit's parents and his wife. it was awful. 

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I think when they were sneaking around he was still single. As I remember it, the parents were furious and after Jenny left, they quickly arranged a marriage for Sumit to avoid scandal of him marrying a foreign senior citizen. 

5 hours ago, Chalby said:

Sumit wasn't some virginal teen, who she seduced. He originally tried to catfish her, Remember?

Yes, he did try to catfish her....and yet somehow she looked past that to get on a plane to go visit him?? LOL. Jenny did claim that she took his virginity (which I seriously doubt). 

 

Oh, how could I forget the Shekinah Sarper fiasco. It is sad and sick that she doesn't see how twisted this whole dynamic is.....all I can think is that her "Amish" upbringing was more of a cult (they had pics of her and her siblings as kids in the little house on the prairie type frocks; true Amish forbid photography) than a true Amish community and she just can't handle living without someone dictating each step of her life and day. The fact that he wanted her to check with him as to which meal to choose from craft services?? WTF. And when she mentioned that she asked him to take an STD test and he complied and that it wasn't just because of his past, but just something standard she asks new partners he got pissed and cut her off----she isn't allowed to mention past relationships. Curious how her relationship/communication is with her daughter now. I mean, that she exists is reference to a past relationship. Can't have that. 

I really dont' get the point of having the past participants on the stage. Really, Kalani? You got knocked up TWICE by a manchild who only could manage a job handing out yogurt samples. Tanya abandoned her fiance to go study witchcraft or holistic healing bullshit and made him sleep in a shed. Winners all around. 

Julio and Kirsten....he is such a loser. Trying to drag her name through the mud as a cheater when the world saw that he just couldnt' cut ties with mommy and man up and do what he promised. And she is supposed to wait around HOW long?? Girl, you dodged a bullet. 

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1 hour ago, Stuckathome said:

I think when they were sneaking around he was still single. As I remember it, the parents were furious and after Jenny left, they quickly arranged a marriage for Sumit to avoid scandal of him marrying a foreign senior citizen. 

Julio and Kirsten....he is such a loser. Trying to drag her name through the mud as a cheater when the world saw that he just couldnt' cut ties with mommy and man up and do what he promised. And she is supposed to wait around HOW long?? Girl, you dodged a bullet. 

That is more how I remember it. I kind of forgot that he did get married but he was single initially. I remember after he told her the truth and sent pictures of himself, she said he was handsome. I think somewhere in there, you had a guy with low self esteem and hearing what maybe he didn't believe, it made him feel great. Who knows how to explain it? 

Oh she so dodged bullet. I didn't even think they needed to be on the Tell All because they were barely on the show to begin with. 

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10 hours ago, Stuckathome said:

I think when they were sneaking around he was still single. As I remember it, the parents were furious and after Jenny left, they quickly arranged a marriage for Sumit to avoid scandal of him marrying a foreign senior citizen. 

15 hours ago, Chalby said:

Yes- but he was married when they started filming their first season of The Other Way and he hadn’t officially left his wife yet. That’s why his father in law got involved. 

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1 hour ago, libgirl2 said:

And we agree with them!!! 

YES!!! lol 

 

I am still baffled by Holly and Wayne...as in, he seems like a normal, sane, hardworking guy. WTF did he ever see in this woman? If she doesn't have a substance abuse problem, she has some sort of mental illness or developmental challenge because she is just...off. And it isn't like she has had episodes of normalcy and then goes off on these weird episodes like some of the other people on this franchise that we have labeled nutjobs. She always seems to be in the midst of a manic episode. I don't know much about true bipolar disorder, but I thought that in between the extremes there was a semi normal time....maybe not? I mean, in the preview Wayne is saying he feels she has abandoned their marriage and she seems SHOCKED, just SHOCKED and so confused as to why a husband who hasn't talked to his wife in weeks after she moved half way around the world a few months ago would possibly think she isn't 100% all in for him. And she sobs that he shouldnt' have married her if he didn't love her.....WTF? When has he done anything to indicate he doesn't love her?? She knew damn well he lived in South Africa. She had visited. 

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1 hour ago, Stuckathome said:

I am still baffled by Holly and Wayne...as in, he seems like a normal, sane, hardworking guy. WTF did he ever see in this woman? If she doesn't have a substance abuse problem, she has some sort of mental illness or developmental challenge because she is just...off. And it isn't like she has had episodes of normalcy and then goes off on these weird episodes like some of the other people on this franchise that we have labeled nutjobs. She always seems to be in the midst of a manic episode. I don't know much about true bipolar disorder, but I thought that in between the extremes there was a semi normal time....maybe not? I mean, in the preview Wayne is saying he feels she has abandoned their marriage and she seems SHOCKED, just SHOCKED and so confused as to why a husband who hasn't talked to his wife in weeks after she moved half way around the world a few months ago would possibly think she isn't 100% all in for him. And she sobs that he shouldnt' have married her if he didn't love her.....WTF? When has he done anything to indicate he doesn't love her?? She knew damn well he lived in South Africa. She had visited. 

I know. He married her,  he loves her and he wants to live with his wife. At this point, he wants to talk to his wife!  I think she wants him to leave SA and move to be with her. Then what will be her issue? And she knew very well, he couldn't moved. 

I honestly don't get those two as a couple as he seems pretty even keeled and normal,  decent. And he is fairly nice looking. She is two sandwiches short of a picnic. 

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On 12/5/2023 at 10:23 PM, Scarlett45 said:

I agree. Kimberly is an atrocious person, I thought Jenny was a bit hypocritical but she’s not impossible to get along with like Kimberly has portrayed herself to be. If Kimberly acts like that in public what does she say or do in private?!!

Kimberly is an obnoxious brat. I can't believe she is 30 years old She acts so immature.

However, I don't understand why these women research before moving to a new country. Did she just watch some video on You tube called "India: Where the fun never stops!"

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1 hour ago, applewood said:

However, I don't understand why these women research before moving to a new country. Did she just watch some video on You tube called "India: Where the fun never stops!"

She lived there previously but obviously took a few pointers from Grangela's book "How To Be An Obnoxious Murican Abroad & Expect A Whole country to Change Its Customs & Ways Because of You".

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I LOVE that Shekinah told Andre to not walk up on her. It's about time that a strong, confident woman told him, respectfully, that his input is not necessary or wanted. He's such a narcissistic know it all.

Julio was definitely cheating on Kiersten in the final months. His nonsense about her cheating on him, was merely him deflecting his guilt over her cheating.btw, I couldn't find a other way 90-day fiance part 2

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On 12/5/2023 at 4:07 AM, MrBuhBye said:

I don’t think the peanut gallery adds anything.

I thought they asked better questions than Shaun... by "they" I mean Tim, since the other 3 were on mute.

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On 12/7/2023 at 10:00 AM, Scarlett45 said:

NO he was MARRIED. He spent the DOWRY, and had to pay it back in order to get divorced!! He embarrassed his poor wife publicly, and then didnt want to give back the dowry!!! His father in law had to get involved. I felt so badly for Summit's parents and his wife. it was awful. 

I'm confused. I was under the impression that after he gave up the catfishing, and they started honestly communicating, she flew over to meet him and he was definitely single at the time, because she stayed with him and his family. It was only after a couple of years the parents realized he was serious about being with her, so they arranged a marriage, pronto. And he was bullied into it cuz we've seen he cannot say no to his parents. But he was not going to give up Jenny, married or not. I believe she was even helping him out financially. And since he was 'legally married' married for a whole 2 years, and didn't tell Jenny, the show, her daughter, etc. I think Sumit was simply immature and hoping if he and Jenny ran away, they'd all cancel the marriage.( No way will I believe that she knew what was going on when sumit's father in law came to their home to confront her. No one's that good an actress.) Yep, so I'm not going to beat up Jenny for a situation that only Sumit was the author of.

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13 hours ago, Chalby said:

I'm confused. I was under the impression that after he gave up the catfishing, and they started honestly communicating, she flew over to meet him and he was definitely single at the time, because she stayed with him and his family. It was only after a couple of years the parents realized he was serious about being with her, so they arranged a marriage, pronto. And he was bullied into it cuz we've seen he cannot say no to his parents. But he was not going to give up Jenny, married or not. I believe she was even helping him out financially. And since he was 'legally married' married for a whole 2 years, and didn't tell Jenny, the show, her daughter, etc. I think Sumit was simply immature and hoping if he and Jenny ran away, they'd all cancel the marriage.( No way will I believe that she knew what was going on when sumit's father in law came to their home to confront her. No one's that good an actress.) Yep, so I'm not going to beat up Jenny for a situation that only Sumit was the author of.

We are in agreement. I was in no way blaming Jenny for what happened. I was reiterating that Summit was married before Jenny arrived/started filming (not engaged or separated), a liar, and a horrid person who shamed his parents and mistreated his wife (who was innocent in all this) and then didn’t want to give her the dowry back! (That’s what really gets me- what did he expect her to do?!! He thought he could just keep the dowry and run off with Jenny??!!)

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6 hours ago, Scarlett45 said:

We are in agreement. I was in no way blaming Jenny for what happened.

Whew, I understand now. when when you mentioned he was married when Jenny came over, I thought you were referring to the first time she went to India. Because at that time he was definitely single, and had definitely made some sort of commitment to jenny.

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On 12/7/2023 at 5:26 AM, Stuckathome said:

True. But she thinks we forget about the whole, "I am just a friend visiting" lie she told his parents as she was sneaking around screwing their son in their own home where the hosted her.....that is NOT respecting the culture or the family. 

I guess it comes down to what one considers "respectful" or not. Since kids are expected to live with their parents until marriage in India, I consider the home to belong to adult Sumit's, as well. Sumit probably asked Jenny to act as an online pal until they determined what their relationship was.

Then again, I consider sneaking a crush into my house, under my parents' noses, as a rite of passage. Lol

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6 hours ago, Chalby said:

I guess it comes down to what one considers "respectful" or not. Since kids are expected to live with their parents until marriage in India, I consider the home to belong to adult Sumit's, as well. Sumit probably asked Jenny to act as an online pal until they determined what their relationship was.

Then again, I consider sneaking a crush into my house, under my parents' noses, as a rite of passage. Lol

I am ADOS (not Indian, or Indian American), and bringing someone into your parents’ /family house (to have sex with them) regardless of your age is considered VERY disrespectful if your parents (or other elders)are not cool with it. Assume it’s not allowed unless you are explicitly told otherwise. The family home isn’t a hotel.

I fully understand why Summit’s parents were upset when they learned the nature of the relationship- and Summit and Jenny knew too. They weren’t born yesterday. 

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